ACC: Joe Paterno
Hale writes: Former Florida State coach Bobby Bowden and his family are not celebrating the revocation of 111 wins by former Penn State coach Joe Paterno, which puts Bowden atop the all-time wins list.
Hale writes : Despite not having won the conference since 2005, the Seminoles were the overwhelming pick as ACC champion in the preseason media poll.
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It's an honor his son, former Clemson coach Tommy Bowden, said will be forever overshadowed by the circumstances in which Bobby Bowden overtook Joe Paterno in the record books.
"His record speaks for itself, and it's my father so you'd like to be happy for him," Tommy Bowden said. "But under the circumstances, it pales in comparison to how significant those problems are and the lives that have been affected."
Paterno, the longtime Penn State head coach, had 111 wins dating back to 1998 vacated from his record as part of the NCAA's sanctions announced Monday, which also included $60 million in fines, a four-year bowl ban and a loss of scholarships in light of the Jerry Sandusky sexual assault case.
That leaves Paterno with an official win tally of 298, well behind Bobby Bowden's official career tally of 377.
Of course, Bowden's actual record on the field included 12 additional wins that were also vacated due to an academic fraud investigation surrounding several FSU players in 2009.
"Even though he did not know about his (infractions), he was the head coach and, as the head coach, you're held responsible," Tommy Bowden said of his father's vacated wins. "The NCAA merited a just discipline for that infraction, and with Penn State they did the same thing."
Bowden said he believed the NCAA's sanctions against Penn State were fair, but he said it was important not to view the wins record as a victory for his father.
"It's such an insignificant thing," Bowden said. "You have to put it in context."
As part of the punishment delivered to Penn State on Monday for its inaction in the Jerry Sandusky sexual abuse scandal, the NCAA ordered the Nittany Lions to vacate their victories from the 1998 to 2011 seasons.
Paterno, who died of lung cancer in January, had a career record of 409-136-3 in 46 seasons at Penn State when he was fired on Nov. 9. Under the NCAA's decision, the Nittany Lions will have to vacate 111 victories, leaving Paterno with a career record of 298-136-3.
Former Florida State coach Bobby Bowden, who went toe-to-toe with Paterno for the NCAA coaching record at the end of their careers, becomes major college football's winningest coach with a career record of 377-129-4. Bowden was forced to vacate 12 victories from the 2006 and 2007 seasons, after the NCAA ruled the Seminoles used academically ineligible players during those seasons.
Former Grambling coach Eddie Robinson is NCAA Division I's all-time winningest coach with a 408-165-15 record in 55 seasons from 1941 to 1997. John Gagliardi, who is still coaching at Division III St. John's University in Collegeville, Minn., has a 484-133-11 record after 63 seasons.
Bowden and Paterno were close friends until Paterno's death.
Bowden, who was forced to retire as FSU's coach after the 2009 season, was playing golf with a former assistant coach on Monday morning, when the NCAA ruled Penn State would have to vacate the victories.
"He's not happy about what happened to Penn State and he's not happy that Joe's wins are being taken away," Bowden's wife, Ann, said. "Joe was very sympathetic when the NCAA took away wins from Bobby."
- Bobby Bowden wouldn't be entirely opposed to Joe Paterno being stripped of his wins.
- UNC quarterback Bryn Renner has spent time this summer as both a teacher and a student.
- VT linebackers Bruce Taylor and Tariq Edwards need to have big seasons for the Hokies to be truly outstanding at linebacker.
- Former Clemson defensive coordinator Kevin Steele could wind up in an administrative role at LSU, according to one report.
- Clemson's indoor practice facility is expected to be ready for bowl practices.
- Clemson is still trying to forget last year's bowl loss. Impossible. It was historically bad.
- Some recruits are attracted to Maryland because of the opportunity to help turn it around.
- Florida State cornerback Greg Reid has denied possessing marijuana in his car when he was arrested.
- Clemson coach Dabo Swinney is restoring order to the Tigers' depth at quarterback.
- Clemson's Brandon Thompson is trying to prove he's one of the best defensive tackles in the nation.
- Incoming Maryland linebacker Shawn Petty wants to help keep moving the program forward.
- Three Duke players have been granted another season of eligibility.
- Hurricanes early enrollee Raphael Kirby could make an immediate impact.
- Virginia Tech AD Jim Weaver has a great idea -- add a second replay official.
- Miami coach Al Golden had some interesting things to say about his former coach, Joe Paterno.
Golden was a three-year (1989-91) letterwinner and two-year starter at tight end for Penn State. As a junior in 1990, Golden played a key role in Penn State's nationally televised 24-21 upset of No. 1-ranked Notre Dame at South Bend, Ind. His touchdown reception late in the fourth quarter tied the game at 21 as Penn State rallied from a 21-7 deficit. Golden was a team captain during his senior year and helped lead Penn State to a 42-17 win over Tennessee in the 1992 Fiesta Bowl. Following that victory, Penn State finished with an 11-2 record and ranked third in the nation in the final 1991 AP poll.
Here is what Golden had to say about his former coach:
"Walter Payton once said, 'Always remember that every opportunity you have to meet someone is an opportunity to leave a piece of yourself.'
"Joe Paterno, not only fulfilled a promise he made to his father by making an impact, he left an indelible piece of himself with everyone in his life. The values Coach Paterno instilled in each of us that were fortunate enough to play for or work alongside him will never be diminished.
"They are manifested in our leadership, character, class and dedication to improving the lives of others in the classroom, workforce and community. They are distinctly evident in the way we raise our children and the type of husbands and fathers we have grown to be. I am forever grateful for the impact that Joseph Vincent Paterno has made on my life. I am not ashamed to say to Coach and his family that the way all of your former players will carry your legacy forward is by humbly improving the lives of those around us every day.
Thank you, Joe!"
When Paterno's tenure ended in November, Beamer became the winningest active coach in the FBS with 251 career victories. In 2010, Beamer became the first and only recipient of the Joe Paterno Award. Beamer released the following statement on Sunday:
“We have lost someone with great and special talents. He had great and special talent as far as being a leader, which is very obvious by his winning record. And, he had a great and special talent in how he treated people. In my experience with him, he was always charming, gracious and thoughtful. I think he was a great fighter, and I know he fought this illness to the very end. College football will miss Joe Paterno.”
The award, as described in Virginia Tech's weekly game notes, "is designed to honor the spirit of Penn State head coach Joe Paterno, whose long-time success on the field has been matched only by his impact away from it."
That impact took on an entirely different meaning this week, as Paterno announced his intent to retire after this season, following allegations of child sex abuse against his former defensive coordinator, Jerry Sandusky. Paterno's pending retirement will leave Beamer as the country's winningest active coach. Paterno currently has 409 wins and Beamer has 248. Mack Brown at Texas is third with 225. Once Paterno retires, Beamer will become the sport's most tenured coach, as Paterno is the only other FBS coach in the country who has been at his current school longer.
"My thoughts, you know Joe, he's a great coach and a great person," Beamer said on Wednesday's ACC teleconference. "He's a very charming, very thoughtful guy, and he's run a great program for a lot of years. I think Joe just has a unique way about him. He's got a lot of football sense, but he's got a lot of common sense, too. He's run his program that way for a number of years."
Unlike Paterno, Beamer can continue to run his.
"Clearly thoughts and prayers go out for the young people, the victims in this case, and certainly my prayers go out to coach, too," Golden said. "It's tough. I don't know much about it ... we're in the middle of Florida State week, but I'm just disheartened by the whole thing and saddened by it and keeping everybody in my thoughts and prayers from a distance."
Golden's contract situation and future at Miami has already come into question once this season, though he repeatedly reaffirmed his commitment to the program. The speculation is bound to continue, though, now that the end of Paterno's career is officially in sight. It's hard not to link the two. As a junior in 1990, Golden played a key role in Penn State's nationally televised 24-21 upset of No. 1-ranked Notre Dame at South Bend. His touchdown reception late in the fourth quarter tied the score at 21 as Penn State rallied from a 21-7 deficit.
Golden was also a team captain during his senior year and helped lead them to a 42-17 win over Tennessee in the 1992 Fiesta Bowl.
When asked about how he plans to counter the distraction of the speculation in recruiting and on the field, Golden said:
"We're going to counter it by playing well and preparing well and clearly we've gotten two commitments in the last 48 hours, and I think there's going to be another one here today or tomorrow," Golden said. "We're excited about what we're building here. I can't worry about what other people are saying. I think you know me well enough to know that I don't worry about the media. I'm just moving the team and our players forward and really trying to enjoy this, the fact we're in the middle of the Miami-Florida State week, to be honest with you."
- NC State linebacker Terrell Manning will miss three weeks with a knee injury.
- North Carolina released more documents pertaining to the NCAA investigation.
- Despite UNC's self-imposed sanctions, the Tar Heels have kept their focus on the field.
- FSU quarterback EJ Manuel might return to practice today.
- Miami safety JoJo Nicolas has emerged as a team leader despite overwhelming personal pain.
- Get to know Georgia Tech A-back Orwin Smith.
- Maryland coach Randy Edsall has a plan for his suspended receivers, but he's not revealing it.
- Former tight end Kenny Anunike has grown comfortable and effective as Duke's defensive end.
- His four sacks in three games has made headlines.
- The recruiting trends of FSU and Clemson indicate they could become familiar front-runners for the Atlantic Division.
- Virginia Tech running back David Wilson has become more well-rounded since the last time he ran all over Marshall.
- Virginia Tech AD Jim Weaver has a plan for new divisions and would like to see 10 conference games.
- There's lots to consider regarding realignment if the ACC goes to 16 teams.
- Virginia's true freshmen are settling in and learning how to win and lose.
- For what it's worth, Joe Paterno likes ACC expansion.
1. Randy Edsall wants to play Penn State.
2. What if, by the time that happens, Miami coach Al Golden returns to coach his alma mater? (Edsall and Golden are playing against each other on Labor Day this year).
3. Would Golden really leave Miami to do that?
4. What's the better coaching job, Penn State or Miami?
Here's the thing: If Al Golden has success at Miami, he should be considered a legitimate candidate to replace Joe Paterno. Golden is a Paterno disciple, he loves the program, played there, and would be a good fit. BUT ... Miami is the better job for Al Golden.
Replacing a legendary coach like Paterno is a lose-lose situation, especially for a former player. You think expectations are high for Golden at a place with five national titles? Everything Golden would do at Penn State would be questioned, from every play he called to how he recruited and ran things off the field, to who he hired, what tie he wore on the sideline and whether or not he cuffed his pants. At Miami, Golden has a chance to make his mark on a different program, to make it his program.
There are few programs that can rival what Penn State has to offer coaches, from the ability to recruit to the potential to win big, and Miami is one of them. Golden should do whatever he can to stay there.
Without Bowden, the ACC turns to Virginia Tech coach Frank Beamer as its winningest active coach.
Beamer has 229 victories in 29 years as a head coach -- 23 at Virginia Tech and six at Murray State -- and is currently tied with Ohio State coach Jim Tressell for second among all active coaches in the FBS, behind only Penn State’s Joe Paterno (394).
Bowden, who retired last year after 34 years in Tallahassee and 44 years as a head coach overall, finished his career with 377 wins -- at least according to the NCAA. Beamer’s 29-year overall record is 229-115-4. Beamer will probably retire long before he comes close to Bowden's win total, but until he does, he's the new face of the ACC, and deservedly so.
Next in line?
Georgia Tech coach Paul Johnson ranks second among current ACC coaches, with an 127-46 record in 13 seasons as a head coach at Georgia Southern, Navy and with the Yellow Jackets.
"Bobby has been a tough competitor. He has meant an awful lot to the universities he coached and to the game of football overall. He and his wife, Ann, have dedicated their lives with untold hours to better the teams and universities they cared so much about. They will be missed by the coaching profession and college football. Sue [Paterno's wife] and I wish them well."
Posted by ESPN.com's Heather Dinich
Sooner or later, it's going to happen. Bobby Bowden is going to retire. My guess, though, is that it will happen later than sooner. Here are three reasons why this won't be Bowden's final season:
1. FSU's best is yet to come. The Noles have a chance to be good this fall, but in 2010 they'll have the talent and experience to be great. Now, whether they capitalize on it depends on how focused they are, and if the staff can stay together long enough to get it out of them. Just because Bowden sticks around doesn't mean defensive coordinator Mickey Andrews has to.
2. Bowden still has goals. And yes, a national championship is one of them. He knows what it takes, and if he's convinced the 2010 team has it, why would he sell himself short of the opportunity to find out if he's right? Bowden's made it no secret he wants to win another one before he retires, and unless I missed it, it hasn't happened yet.
3. Joe Paterno is still coaching. The NCAA might be able to erase the dual on paper, but they're still two living legends trying to outdo -- and outlast -- each other. Now, if the NCAA grants FSU its appeal, then this final reason becomes even more important, obviously. The Jimbo Fisher plan doesn't take effect until January 2011. Nobody is forcing either of these men out. And neither of them have anything else they'd rather be doing.
Posted by ESPN.com's Heather Dinich
GREENSBORO, N.C. -- Regardless of what's happening between the NCAA and Florida State, or what will happen to coach Bobby Bowden's final record, those within the program are downplaying the effects of it.
The person it seems to be affecting the least, though, is the man at the center of the controversy.
"It won't bother me one bit," Bowden said. "I don't live and die over stuff like that. I'd love to have it, and I'd love for my children, and my grandchildren to be able to say that's their old man up there, but if it doesn't happen, I won't lose a drop -- I won't lose a second of sleep over it."
And yet he continues to fight on.
"I'm gonna tell 'em to fight like you know what," Bowden said. "I'd fight it if I could, but there's nothing I can do. But if we don't win it, I'll accept it."
For the players, quarterback Christian Ponder insists that public squabble between the NCAA and FSU officials hasn't been a distraction. The team's main concern has been preparing for the season opener against Miami and making progress during seven-on-sevens.
"For us, the administration is dealing with that," Ponder said. "As a football team, we're only worried about winning games. That's our job, that's what we're focused on. The past is in the past; you can't change it. We're not dwelling on it at all. It's not a distraction."
The rare opportunity to start for Bowden during what is likely his final season or two, though, is not lost on Ponder.
"It means a lot now and I think it's going to mean much more later on," Ponder said. "He's a heck of a coach. A lot of people think he's not as involved as he was, and he might be backing off a little bit, but he's still very involved. He contributes a lot. He's obviously one of the greatest coaches in football history."
Ponder said he doesn't put a lot of pressure on himself to usher Bowden out as a winner, "but it would be nice to send him out on a high note at the end of his career. But we don't really dwell on it."
Ponder's father, David, played on the defensive line for Bowden from 1980-83. Ponder said his father doesn't bring it up much because he doesn't want it to be a distraction.
"He feels a little bad," Ponder said. "It's tough to see that going on, but, honestly, I think my dad and everyone close to the program realizes that Coach Bowden is a strong person and he could really care less whether he keeps those wins or not. He doesn't really judge his life on wins and losses so everyone knows he's one of the greatest coaches in football history. Who cares? Fourteen wins doesn't mean much."
Unless, of course, you're Joe Paterno.
Posted by ESPN.com's Heather Dinich
Joe Paterno doesn't think FSU coach Bobby Bowden deserves to be stripped of up to 14 wins for the Seminoles' academic cheating scandal, according to a recent interview Paterno had with the Reading Eagle.
It's nice to see Paterno taking this stance. At the heart of the matter is the race between these legendary coaches, and to see it end prematurely would be a huge loss for the sport and its fans. Paterno is also a fierce competitor, and I'd imagine he'd rather earn his title as college football's winningest coach than have the NCAA hand it to him.
But it's not surprising to learn Paterno has taken this stance. After all, he's just like Bowden -- too far removed from everything to strike any fear into the hearts of his players.
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