Thursday, August 20, 2009
Fights fill final Texans-Saints joint practice
By Paul Kuharsky
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| ||The final joint practice held by the Texans and Saints got chippy Friday with several fights breaking out, including one between Jeremy Shockey and DeMeco Ryans. |
Posted by ESPN.com's Paul Kuharsky
HOUSTON -- Wherever I wasn't, there was a fight at Thursday morning's Texans-Saints practice. When I was watching the Texans' offense, the fights were on defense. When I changed up, so did they.
John McClain says the fight total was six and that the highlights were a Jeremy Shockey versus DeMeco Ryans bout and a Vonta Leach-Rod Coleman battle. Another observer told me that Shockey threw at least one punch and that another of the fights was Ryan Moats against Saints fullback Troy Evans. (Here's McClain's story.)
The crowd erupted in response to each fight, and the teams swarmed to defend their guys, with order restored relatively quickly.
Leach said afterward that "we are not going to get pushed around, we are not going to get bullied" and Gary Kubiak said he liked the way guys stood up for teammates, but he likes composure even more.
It made for a more entertaining show for a large crowd that included the football teams from both Houston and Rice.
On to some notes about the football I saw:
- Tried to get a read on the rookie defensive backs, but one-on-ones were kind of sloppy and Drew Brees, who rejoined the team after attending to family matters in the wake of his mother's death, seemed rusty, at least early.
Glover Quin lost Lance Moore as the receiver cut hard across the middle on one play. In red zone work he covered Marques Colston well but the throw wasn't anything Colston had a chance to go get. Quin had a very nice pass breakup in the back left corner of the end zone on a throw from Mark Brunell aimed for Rod Harper. Quin also got a nice jam on Devery Henderson and stayed tight on him, but Henderson maintained focus and managed to make the catch despite the coverage. That was all in one-on-ones. Later, in a team period, Brees fit a nice mid-range pass between Quin and Dominique Barber to Colston.
- Brice McCain either didn't work a lot in the one-on-one period or I had a hard time finding him in the crowd. I saw one play where he didn't stay particularly close to his receiver. Deltha O'Neal, the veteran who was brought in when injuries mounted, didn't look great to me.
- Special-teams periods in the heat can be excruciating, but I noticed one play of note: New Orleans' Adrian Arrington was lined up as a gunner and Quin and Eugene Wilson absolutely handled him, getting their hands on him repeatedly as they prevented him from having any chance to influence the return.
- Dan Orlovsky had some uncomfortable moments. I don't think he's Chevy Chase impersonating Gerald Ford, but he might have a degree of clumsiness to him. He fell down back out from under center on one play. On another, backpedalling furiously with two defenders bearing down, he threw an ill-advised dump off over the middle that hit an O-lineman and had no chance at success.
- Steve Slaton had some very nice moments. The best one I saw was he pulled in a short pass, and spun off the first defender to gain some extra yards. Will Smith likely would have had a sack on the play, however. Chris Brown looks very good and can be just the sort of complement to Slaton that the team is looking for. Insert your obligatory line about his issues staying healthy here.
- Matt Schaub was crisp but had a few bad moments. He threw a bad pick in the red zone intended for David Anderson on the left side that Tracy Porter jumped and would have taken back for a touchdown in a game setting. And for the second day in a row a pump or a pull down turned into a lost ball for an incompletion. There are far worse ways to end a play, but is he having some sort of grip issue?
- Kubiak said linebacker Cato June suffered a broken forearm.
- The practice started at 8:30 and was short, breaking up at 9:53 by my cell phone clock.