AFC South: Antonio Johnson
Through three rounds and four picks, the Indianapolis Colts had gone all offense. Chuck Pagano said his defensive coordinator, Greg Manusky, was spending a lot of time on the elliptical machine burning off his energy while remaining empty-handed.
Manusky's exercise session ended with the first pick of the fifth round.
Pagano and Manusky need a lot as they build a 3-4 defense, and their first drafted help comes in the form of Alabama nose tackle Josh Chapman.
A shade over 6-feet tall, Chapman weighs in at about 316 pounds. I’d imagine Chapman will work in tandem with free-agent acquisition Brandon McKinney as the Colts nose tackle, which could mean Antonio Johnson is a swing guy playing some inside and some outside. GM Ryan Grigson recently spoke of Johnson as the team's second nose tackle.
Pro Football Weekly’s NFL Draft guide’s write-up of Chapman offers reason to be encouraged about the pick:
Manusky's exercise session ended with the first pick of the fifth round.
Pagano and Manusky need a lot as they build a 3-4 defense, and their first drafted help comes in the form of Alabama nose tackle Josh Chapman.
A shade over 6-feet tall, Chapman weighs in at about 316 pounds. I’d imagine Chapman will work in tandem with free-agent acquisition Brandon McKinney as the Colts nose tackle, which could mean Antonio Johnson is a swing guy playing some inside and some outside. GM Ryan Grigson recently spoke of Johnson as the team's second nose tackle.
Pro Football Weekly’s NFL Draft guide’s write-up of Chapman offers reason to be encouraged about the pick:
“Stout, gritty, two-down, block-occupying plugger with a lunchpail mentality, Can provide a team comfort knowing what it’s getting given his dependable play for a national champion.”
We’re talked a lot about needs for the Colts, beyond quarterback which will be addressed when they draft Andrew Luck first overall: cornerback, safety, nose tackle, tight end, receiver and perhaps an offensive lineman.
We’re expecting Robert Mathis and Dwight Freeney to spend most of their time at outside linebacker in a new 3-4 the Colts will be in as often as possible. If so, then some guys who were tackles in the old 4-3 will shift to end in that front. Fili Moala and Drake Nevis would head the list to work with free-agent addition Cory Redding. Nevis was not mentioned by GM Ryan Grigson recently when he talked of free-agent addition Brandon McKinney and holdover Antonio Johnson as the team’s primary answers at nose tackle.
In this scenario, the Colts are quite thin at outside linebacker.
I fully expect Jerry Hughes will get a chance there. The next most notable linebacker names on the roster for a spot that needs a great deal of depth are Kavell Conner and Scott Lutrus. And Conner may be an inside guy.
While Mathis and Freeney will surely be asked to do much of what they’ve done through successful careers as outside backers, the fact remains that there isn’t one proven 3-4 outside linebacker in that group. (And beyond Pat Angerer, there isn’t a guy we know can play inside in a 3-4 either -- though that situational job isn’t as difficult to fill.)
Freeney is also entering the last year of a very expensive contract.
The Colts have 10 picks in the draft, five in the first 136. They’ll need to address linebacker somewhere along the way.
We’re expecting Robert Mathis and Dwight Freeney to spend most of their time at outside linebacker in a new 3-4 the Colts will be in as often as possible. If so, then some guys who were tackles in the old 4-3 will shift to end in that front. Fili Moala and Drake Nevis would head the list to work with free-agent addition Cory Redding. Nevis was not mentioned by GM Ryan Grigson recently when he talked of free-agent addition Brandon McKinney and holdover Antonio Johnson as the team’s primary answers at nose tackle.
In this scenario, the Colts are quite thin at outside linebacker.
I fully expect Jerry Hughes will get a chance there. The next most notable linebacker names on the roster for a spot that needs a great deal of depth are Kavell Conner and Scott Lutrus. And Conner may be an inside guy.
While Mathis and Freeney will surely be asked to do much of what they’ve done through successful careers as outside backers, the fact remains that there isn’t one proven 3-4 outside linebacker in that group. (And beyond Pat Angerer, there isn’t a guy we know can play inside in a 3-4 either -- though that situational job isn’t as difficult to fill.)
Freeney is also entering the last year of a very expensive contract.
The Colts have 10 picks in the draft, five in the first 136. They’ll need to address linebacker somewhere along the way.
Grigson thinks Colts have nose tackles
April, 18, 2012
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Paul Kuharsky | ESPN.com
A 3-4 nose tackle has been featured on virtually every list of Indianapolis' needs.
Having a guy who can demand multiple blockers in the middle is a necessity if Chuck Pagano is going to be able to play his preferred front as the team transitions from a 4-3.
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McKinneyGM Ryan Grigson told Indianapolis reporters Wednesday that Brandon McKinney, a free-agent addition who played for Pagano in Baltimore, and holdover Antonio Johnson can man the position. McKinney was listed at 6-foot-2, 345 pounds and Johnson as 6-3, 310 last season.
“We have two really big (players), McKinney and Mookie (Johnson) are both big guys and they fit that mold at nose for us,” Grigson said. “Again, you are always looking to improve. Nose is another thing, like when we signed Brandon and Brandon is a good player coming from a top defense which is comforting to know. Backup or not, if you are a backup on the Ravens and you have a handful of starts you are probably pretty darn good. The film doesn’t lie. He is a very strong, hard guy to move.
“There are not many people in the draft, free agency or really on planet Earth that are 350 that can play this game. There are not many of them. They are hard to find, but once you find them you have to hang on to them and you have to try to acquire the best ones you can because it is a very important piece in our defense.”
McKinney certainly eases the desperation of the Colts at the spot.
Scouts Inc. described him this way at the start of free agency.
They can play with him as their front-line nose, for sure.
Johnson is hardly the prototype, however. He’s been part of a 4-3 front during his five seasons with the Titans and Colts.
Like at many positions, the Colts could use depth at nose tackle.
Having a guy who can demand multiple blockers in the middle is a necessity if Chuck Pagano is going to be able to play his preferred front as the team transitions from a 4-3.
“We have two really big (players), McKinney and Mookie (Johnson) are both big guys and they fit that mold at nose for us,” Grigson said. “Again, you are always looking to improve. Nose is another thing, like when we signed Brandon and Brandon is a good player coming from a top defense which is comforting to know. Backup or not, if you are a backup on the Ravens and you have a handful of starts you are probably pretty darn good. The film doesn’t lie. He is a very strong, hard guy to move.
“There are not many people in the draft, free agency or really on planet Earth that are 350 that can play this game. There are not many of them. They are hard to find, but once you find them you have to hang on to them and you have to try to acquire the best ones you can because it is a very important piece in our defense.”
McKinney certainly eases the desperation of the Colts at the spot.
Scouts Inc. described him this way at the start of free agency.
McKinney is a massive body with great power and limited athleticism. He can anchor well versus the run but lacks quickness and range to make plays outside the tackle box. He flashes power to push the pocket but is very limited in rushing the passer. McKinney has good pop and power to stymie blockers at the point of attack but is inconsistent to disengage to the ball. He does a nice job restricting running lanes and is best on goal-line and short-yardage situations.
They can play with him as their front-line nose, for sure.
Johnson is hardly the prototype, however. He’s been part of a 4-3 front during his five seasons with the Titans and Colts.
Like at many positions, the Colts could use depth at nose tackle.
INDIANAPOLIS -- Greetings from Lucas Oil Stadium on what might be a sentimental night for Colts fans.
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Two notes from the inactive lists and starting lineups from Texans-Colts:
The full inactive lists:
Houston
Indianapolis
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Two notes from the inactive lists and starting lineups from Texans-Colts:
- Texans tight end Owen Daniels, who’s been slowed with a knee injury and did not practice Tuesday, is dressed and in the starting lineup for Houston.
- Colts defensive tackle Antonio Johnson, who’s not injured, will not start. Tyler Brayton is in the starting lineup in his place.
The full inactive lists:
Houston
- QB Jeff Garcia
- CB Sherrick McManis
- FS Troy Nolan
- G Mike Brisiel
- T Andrew Gardner
- WR Andre Johnson
- TE Garrett Graham
Indianapolis
- QB Peyton Manning
- DB Mike Holmes
- TE Dallas Clark
- LB Philip Wheeler
- LB Scott Lutrus
- T Quinn Ojinnaka
- DE Mario Addison
Indianapolis Colts cutdown analysis
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Check here for a complete list of the Indianapolis Colts' roster moves.
Surprise moves: Tommie Harris seemed to play well enough to stick, but the former first-round defensive tackle apparently wanted to be treated like the team’s top defensive linemen and the team didn’t like the attitude. Defensive end John Chick had solid games but couldn’t get past Jerry Hughes. Undrafted rookie tight end Mike McNeill made it, as did four others who were not April selections: running backs Darren Evans and Chad Spann, linebacker Adrian Moten and safety Joe Lefeged.
No-brainers: Veteran additions on defense made good impressions in the preseason and are sticking around -- ends Jamaal Anderson and Tyler Brayton and linebacker Ernie Sims. Anthony Gonzalez may be injury prone, but none of the other options at receiver is a better player.
What’s next: They’ve got only four defensive tackles in Fili Moala, Antonio Johnson, Eric Foster and Drake Nevis. It could be a spot where they look to add or upgrade on Foster. Offensive linemen Mike Pollak and Jamey Richard will have to prove they deserved to stick ahead of Kyle DeVan.
Surprise moves: Tommie Harris seemed to play well enough to stick, but the former first-round defensive tackle apparently wanted to be treated like the team’s top defensive linemen and the team didn’t like the attitude. Defensive end John Chick had solid games but couldn’t get past Jerry Hughes. Undrafted rookie tight end Mike McNeill made it, as did four others who were not April selections: running backs Darren Evans and Chad Spann, linebacker Adrian Moten and safety Joe Lefeged.
No-brainers: Veteran additions on defense made good impressions in the preseason and are sticking around -- ends Jamaal Anderson and Tyler Brayton and linebacker Ernie Sims. Anthony Gonzalez may be injury prone, but none of the other options at receiver is a better player.
What’s next: They’ve got only four defensive tackles in Fili Moala, Antonio Johnson, Eric Foster and Drake Nevis. It could be a spot where they look to add or upgrade on Foster. Offensive linemen Mike Pollak and Jamey Richard will have to prove they deserved to stick ahead of Kyle DeVan.
Kyle Marcil from Jacksonville writes: I just saw the Jaguars added another defensive player in DE/OLB Matt Roth, who was arguably the best defensive player for the Browns. Two questions: Why are the Jags not considered in the top five for off-season moves/acquisitions, especially since the Patriots are considered to have made one of the best moves by adding a past his prime Chad Ochocinco and a lazy Albert Haynesworth who doesn't want to play now that he's paid? And with Roth filling the last hole in our defense, assuming he plays DE, do you think that we have the best defense (at least on paper) in the AFC South?
Paul Kuharsky: Free agency scoring is likely over. The Jaguars did quite well. The reason they didn’t get more hype, I believe, is because the pass defense was so bad and the only big early addition who is perceived as directly impacting that is Dawan Landry. I doubt many folks who saw what the Patriots hung on the Jaguars Thursday night are going to be touting Jacksonville's defense, regardless of who played or did not play. I still have major concerns about the secondary. I'm not willing to declare who the best defense on paper is. but they are definitely in the conversation. And the competition is not great.
Todd from Pennsylvania writes: With the Colts apparently content to stand pat on the nose tackle position even though Antonio Johnson is the only true nose tackle with any experience on the roster, does he suddenly become the Colts second most important player to keep healthy? (behind Peyton Manning of course).
PK: Seriously? Replace a mediocre nose tackle with a bad nose tackle and it’s not a big deal. Replacing Reggie Wayne, Dwight Freeney, Robert Mathis, Antoine Bethea, Austin Collie, or even Dallas Clark would be far, far more difficult. You can also find nose tackles on the street -- see Johnson as an example. They signed him from Titans’ practice squad when they got him.
Of starters, Johnson is probably the most replaceable.
Ryan from Arlington, Texas, writes: Aren't people over reacting a bit to the loss of Vonta Leach? Houston had Leach from 2006-2010. In those years, the Texans' running game was good in 2010, but was putrid in 2009 and mediocre the rest. Also, Arian Foster averaged 5.5 yards/carry without Vonta in the game, and 4.7 with him. I'm not disputing that Vonta is a very good fullback, but I think his impact is being overplayed.
PK: I’m with you. A fullback is only so influential. I understand people love him. Great guy, great story. But at some point you have to separate the emotional part and be rational and fiscally responsible. The Texans were, even if a percentage of their fans were not. It’s a situational role. Lawrence Vickers and James Casey can more than handle it.
Riverman from Florence, Ala., writes: How can the Titans justify drawing a line in the sand for (Chris Johnson) to come to camp before they "will talk" about a new deal? Didn't they go on record last by saying that if CJ would come to camp for the $500k increase, then they would work out a new contract? So they have had almost an entire year knowing that this situation was coming. This type of business is why the Titans have a reputation of "not paying their players" as Marshall Faulk said last year.
PK: All true. But you have to acknowledge that a four and a half month lockout took away a significant chunk of time. Maybe they would have worked this all out around organized team activities. But the calendar didn’t include that this year. Asking him to come and not practice while they negotiate doesn’t seem unreasonable to me. He could always leave after a few days if it wasn’t going to his liking.
The financial reputation is simply incorrect. Who did they fail to pay? Did you want them to spend what Washington did on Haynesworth and have that catastrophe on their hands?
Matt Hasselbeck is getting paid. Michael Roos, David Stewart, Finnegan and Eugene Amano all got early, proactive extensions. Will Witherspoon got paid. Barrett Ruud and Daniel Graham chose to take the Titans’ deals so they had to be reasonable, no?
It’s hard to find a guy who reached free agency who they let walk fare better with his new team than he did in Nashville. If you want star chasing, this isn’t your team. That doesn’t make them cheap.
Matthew from Montréal writes: Paul, Your comment that life is easier for the media when all is running smoothly in relation to whatshisname walking out on the Titans: I don't think so. If nothing's happening, then no one wants to read/watch what the media says. The media's job is to sell, to make things interesting. To declare that the media has no agenda is disingenuous, of course it does. And making a mountain out of a molehill is something the media does very well. The media thrives on drama, whether it's Grandma Favre's dithering about a comeback or whatshisname walking out on the Titans. So don't tell us that whatshisname thinks people are idiots when you yourself take up a disingenuous argument that insults your readers' intelligence. Just saying.
Paul Kuharsky: I understand your broad point and it’s a fair one. But I don’t wake up in the morning hoping for controversy. I really don’t. And I don’t think my bosses do either. People are obsessed with the NFL and gobble up every nugget. I’m always rooting for a good nugget and a compelling story above all else. Plenty of them happen to be controversial. But plenty of them are not.
I promise, on a Saturday with a chance for some family time, people who cover the Titans aren’t excited when Cortland Finnegan does something foolish.
Paul Kuharsky: Free agency scoring is likely over. The Jaguars did quite well. The reason they didn’t get more hype, I believe, is because the pass defense was so bad and the only big early addition who is perceived as directly impacting that is Dawan Landry. I doubt many folks who saw what the Patriots hung on the Jaguars Thursday night are going to be touting Jacksonville's defense, regardless of who played or did not play. I still have major concerns about the secondary. I'm not willing to declare who the best defense on paper is. but they are definitely in the conversation. And the competition is not great.
Todd from Pennsylvania writes: With the Colts apparently content to stand pat on the nose tackle position even though Antonio Johnson is the only true nose tackle with any experience on the roster, does he suddenly become the Colts second most important player to keep healthy? (behind Peyton Manning of course).
PK: Seriously? Replace a mediocre nose tackle with a bad nose tackle and it’s not a big deal. Replacing Reggie Wayne, Dwight Freeney, Robert Mathis, Antoine Bethea, Austin Collie, or even Dallas Clark would be far, far more difficult. You can also find nose tackles on the street -- see Johnson as an example. They signed him from Titans’ practice squad when they got him.
Of starters, Johnson is probably the most replaceable.
Ryan from Arlington, Texas, writes: Aren't people over reacting a bit to the loss of Vonta Leach? Houston had Leach from 2006-2010. In those years, the Texans' running game was good in 2010, but was putrid in 2009 and mediocre the rest. Also, Arian Foster averaged 5.5 yards/carry without Vonta in the game, and 4.7 with him. I'm not disputing that Vonta is a very good fullback, but I think his impact is being overplayed.
PK: I’m with you. A fullback is only so influential. I understand people love him. Great guy, great story. But at some point you have to separate the emotional part and be rational and fiscally responsible. The Texans were, even if a percentage of their fans were not. It’s a situational role. Lawrence Vickers and James Casey can more than handle it.
Riverman from Florence, Ala., writes: How can the Titans justify drawing a line in the sand for (Chris Johnson) to come to camp before they "will talk" about a new deal? Didn't they go on record last by saying that if CJ would come to camp for the $500k increase, then they would work out a new contract? So they have had almost an entire year knowing that this situation was coming. This type of business is why the Titans have a reputation of "not paying their players" as Marshall Faulk said last year.
PK: All true. But you have to acknowledge that a four and a half month lockout took away a significant chunk of time. Maybe they would have worked this all out around organized team activities. But the calendar didn’t include that this year. Asking him to come and not practice while they negotiate doesn’t seem unreasonable to me. He could always leave after a few days if it wasn’t going to his liking.
The financial reputation is simply incorrect. Who did they fail to pay? Did you want them to spend what Washington did on Haynesworth and have that catastrophe on their hands?
Matt Hasselbeck is getting paid. Michael Roos, David Stewart, Finnegan and Eugene Amano all got early, proactive extensions. Will Witherspoon got paid. Barrett Ruud and Daniel Graham chose to take the Titans’ deals so they had to be reasonable, no?
It’s hard to find a guy who reached free agency who they let walk fare better with his new team than he did in Nashville. If you want star chasing, this isn’t your team. That doesn’t make them cheap.
Matthew from Montréal writes: Paul, Your comment that life is easier for the media when all is running smoothly in relation to whatshisname walking out on the Titans: I don't think so. If nothing's happening, then no one wants to read/watch what the media says. The media's job is to sell, to make things interesting. To declare that the media has no agenda is disingenuous, of course it does. And making a mountain out of a molehill is something the media does very well. The media thrives on drama, whether it's Grandma Favre's dithering about a comeback or whatshisname walking out on the Titans. So don't tell us that whatshisname thinks people are idiots when you yourself take up a disingenuous argument that insults your readers' intelligence. Just saying.
Paul Kuharsky: I understand your broad point and it’s a fair one. But I don’t wake up in the morning hoping for controversy. I really don’t. And I don’t think my bosses do either. People are obsessed with the NFL and gobble up every nugget. I’m always rooting for a good nugget and a compelling story above all else. Plenty of them happen to be controversial. But plenty of them are not.
I promise, on a Saturday with a chance for some family time, people who cover the Titans aren’t excited when Cortland Finnegan does something foolish.
ANDERSON, Ind. – A first look at the Colts’ first unofficial depth chart gives us some nuggets to consider:
- Jacques McClendon is the starting left guard over Joe Reitz, though they’ve practiced in the other order.
- The base offense is three wide, with Austin Collie in what’s technically the H-back spot.
- Tommie Harris is fifth at left defensive tackle, a spot he’ll surely move up from.
- Rookie Drake Nevis is the No. 2 left defensive tackle behind Fili Moala.
- Eric Foster is the No. 2 right defensive tackle behind Antonio Johnson.
- Undrafted rookie Joe Lefeged is backing up Melvin Bullitt at strong safety.
- Al Afalava is backing up Antoine Bethea at free safety.
- Devin Moore is the punt returner.
- Undrafted David Gilreath is the punt returner.
Our first look at the Colts on the field
August, 8, 2011
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Paul Kuharsky | ESPN.com
ANDERSON, Ind. -- Some quick, initial impressions from the first practice of Colts training camp I watched…
Joe Reitz, who’s listed as a tackle, continues to work at left guard ahead of Jacques McClendon. He lined up with left tackle Jeff Linkenbach, center Jeff Saturday, right guard Mike Pollak and right tackle Ryan Diem to form the starting O-line.- Justin Tryon ranks as the third corner right now, but count me among those who think he could wind up second. I watched him encourage and advise undrafted rookie Terrence Johnson during one-on-ones about being patient working against receiver Taj Smith. Good stuff.
- “Saturday,” a fan screamed and the center raised his fist before the rest of the line was delivered. “Thank you for the season.” He should hear that a lot based on his giant role in the CBA negotiations.
- It can't be a fun job to be the guy who holds up a three-ring pack of laminated sheets with the right package or play name on it to the camera before each play. But the coaches need to have some stuff labeled as “Alcatraz” of “Queso” when they review and look for landmarks of the sets.
- With Dwight Freeney out for the morning, the first-unit defensive line was, left to right, Jamaal Anderson, Fili Moala, Antonio Johnson and Robert Mathis.
- Special teams worked on punting out of the back of the end zone and the block team did well to get to one off of Pat McAfee’s foot. Special-teams coach Ray Rychleski didn’t care for close-but-no-cigar on another snap. Well, not even close, apparently. “Don’t go near the guy,"' he barked at one rusher. “You’re not even close. Block it or don’t go near him.” The broader point: Roughing the punter penalties kill.
- Watched some one-on-one pass rush and saw Tommie Harris win snaps against McClendon and Reitz. Anthony Castonzo and Ben Ijalana looked good to me. Drake Nevis and Jerry Hughes didn’t have a great period from what I could tell.
- Linebacker Ernie Sims is out two weeks after an appendectomy, according to Jim Caldwell.
A boon for the Colts will be the return of all their injured players from 2010. But they also might go out and make a splash in free agency this year, which is unlike them.
But first and foremost, Indianapolis absolutely must get Peyton Manning locked up to a long-term deal, even though his franchise tag most likely will hold up with the new collective bargaining agreement. But the Colts do not currently have a lot of room under the cap, so some tough decisions will have to be made.
With Melvin Bullitt and Joseph Addai as free agents-to-be, I see safety and running back as Indianapolis’ biggest needs. But the Colts also need to address defensive tackle, where Daniel Muir and Antonio Johnson are both free agents and neither player is very effective.
Addai: Addai is probably more valuable to the Colts than to any other franchise in the league. Addai has Manning’s trust, he fits and understands this complex offensive system and he excels in pass protection. But durability is an issue with Addai, and at this point of his career, he probably has no more upside.
Reggie Bush: To me, this would actually be a better option than Addai. Having a backfield of Bush, Delone Carter and Donald Brown would give Indianapolis three extremely different types of running backs. And few teams would be as adept at using these varying skills as the Colts. Bush could be pure electricity in this offense. And Manning would masterfully utilize Bush’s ability to confound defensive personnel. Bush isn’t technically a free agent, but he most likely will become available on the open market.
Brandon Mebane: Adding an impact defensive tackle like Mebane would be much more of a free-agent splash than we are accustomed to with Indianapolis. But Mebane is a fine all-around player. And adding him would make defensive tackle a strength of this team rather than the liability that it so often is. Mebane might be out of the Colts’ price range, but he is exactly what they need at the position right now.
Clint Session: The Colts rarely invest in keeping their own linebackers, but Session is a perfect fit for their scheme. He is fast, explosive and plays the game with vigor and passion. Keeping him as their weakside linebacker would be a smart move.
Bullitt: As you can tell, I am in favor of Indianapolis keeping its own for the most part. Bullitt is very effective in his role. If Bullitt goes elsewhere, some other safeties the Colts should consider who wouldn’t break the bank are Donte Whitner, Brodney Pool and Dashon Goldson. Whitner is most likely the highest-priced player of this group.
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But first and foremost, Indianapolis absolutely must get Peyton Manning locked up to a long-term deal, even though his franchise tag most likely will hold up with the new collective bargaining agreement. But the Colts do not currently have a lot of room under the cap, so some tough decisions will have to be made.
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Jed Jacobsohn/Getty ImagesReggie Bush would add a new dimension to the Colts' offense.
Jed Jacobsohn/Getty ImagesReggie Bush would add a new dimension to the Colts' offense.Addai: Addai is probably more valuable to the Colts than to any other franchise in the league. Addai has Manning’s trust, he fits and understands this complex offensive system and he excels in pass protection. But durability is an issue with Addai, and at this point of his career, he probably has no more upside.
Reggie Bush: To me, this would actually be a better option than Addai. Having a backfield of Bush, Delone Carter and Donald Brown would give Indianapolis three extremely different types of running backs. And few teams would be as adept at using these varying skills as the Colts. Bush could be pure electricity in this offense. And Manning would masterfully utilize Bush’s ability to confound defensive personnel. Bush isn’t technically a free agent, but he most likely will become available on the open market.
Brandon Mebane: Adding an impact defensive tackle like Mebane would be much more of a free-agent splash than we are accustomed to with Indianapolis. But Mebane is a fine all-around player. And adding him would make defensive tackle a strength of this team rather than the liability that it so often is. Mebane might be out of the Colts’ price range, but he is exactly what they need at the position right now.
Clint Session: The Colts rarely invest in keeping their own linebackers, but Session is a perfect fit for their scheme. He is fast, explosive and plays the game with vigor and passion. Keeping him as their weakside linebacker would be a smart move.
Bullitt: As you can tell, I am in favor of Indianapolis keeping its own for the most part. Bullitt is very effective in his role. If Bullitt goes elsewhere, some other safeties the Colts should consider who wouldn’t break the bank are Donte Whitner, Brodney Pool and Dashon Goldson. Whitner is most likely the highest-priced player of this group.
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Reviewing would-be four-year free agents
June, 22, 2011
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Paul Kuharsky | ESPN.com
If the new CBA takes the shape that’s currently being reported, unrestricted free agency would arrive after four years. That was the standard number for players with expired contracts to hit free agency until 2010 -- the final year of the old CBA -- when players needed to have six years of experience.
So Independence Day could arrive for players who were trapped by the rule change in the final year of the last deal.
Here’s a team-by-team look at notable players who stand to be unrestricted now who didn’t know what their fate would be in a new labor agreement.
Houston Texans
OT Rashad Butler -- Was not great playing filling in for four games for a suspended Duane Brown, but they like him as their third tackle.
WR Jacoby Jones -- Flashes make him appealing, inconsistency makes him dispensable if someone wants to pay him more.
QB Matt Leinart -- Likely to move on to a place where he can rank better than No. 3.
Indianapolis Colts
RB Joseph Addai -- Has more value to the Colts because of system fit, so perhaps he won’t get a more attractive offer elsewhere.
S Melvin Bullitt -- There are a lot of safety-needy teams in the league, including the other three in the AFC South and he’s very steady.
DT Antonio Johnson -- Probably would only rank fourth on the inside. Has not been real effective but team seems to like him.
OL Charlie Johnson-- Versatility makes him valuable, but like Addai he may not fit other teams as well.
DT Daniel Muir -- Could still rank as the second interior lineman depending on development of third-round pick Drake Nevis.
LB Clint Session -- The Colts have a long history of letting young linebackers move on and plugging in the next guy.
Jacksonville Jaguars
LB Justin Durant -- All indications are the team is ready to find a veteran linebacker in free agency to take his place.
QB Trent Edwards -- No hope of a return with David Garrard, Blaine Gabbert and Luke McCown on the roster.
TE Marcedes Lewis -- He’s franchise tagged and that’s expected to hold in the new agreement, so he won’t really become free.
P Adam Podlesh -- They could do better, they could do worse.
WR Mike Sims-Walker -- The team told him before the lockout they’d be going another direction.
Tennessee Titans
DE Jacob Ford -- The Titans know his situational pass rushing value but are also looking to beef up and emphasize stopping the run.
FB Ahmard Hall -- An important guy for Chris Johnson and a rock on a team with little leadership even if he’s not an every-down guy.
G Leroy Harris -- The team’s faith in him as the starter at left guard appears to be unwavering.
LB Stephen Tulloch -- I suspect his view of his value and the league’s view are quite different.
So Independence Day could arrive for players who were trapped by the rule change in the final year of the last deal.
Here’s a team-by-team look at notable players who stand to be unrestricted now who didn’t know what their fate would be in a new labor agreement.
Houston Texans
OT Rashad Butler -- Was not great playing filling in for four games for a suspended Duane Brown, but they like him as their third tackle.
WR Jacoby Jones -- Flashes make him appealing, inconsistency makes him dispensable if someone wants to pay him more.
QB Matt Leinart -- Likely to move on to a place where he can rank better than No. 3.
Indianapolis Colts
RB Joseph Addai -- Has more value to the Colts because of system fit, so perhaps he won’t get a more attractive offer elsewhere.
S Melvin Bullitt -- There are a lot of safety-needy teams in the league, including the other three in the AFC South and he’s very steady.
DT Antonio Johnson -- Probably would only rank fourth on the inside. Has not been real effective but team seems to like him.
OL Charlie Johnson-- Versatility makes him valuable, but like Addai he may not fit other teams as well.
DT Daniel Muir -- Could still rank as the second interior lineman depending on development of third-round pick Drake Nevis.
LB Clint Session -- The Colts have a long history of letting young linebackers move on and plugging in the next guy.
Jacksonville Jaguars
LB Justin Durant -- All indications are the team is ready to find a veteran linebacker in free agency to take his place.
QB Trent Edwards -- No hope of a return with David Garrard, Blaine Gabbert and Luke McCown on the roster.
TE Marcedes Lewis -- He’s franchise tagged and that’s expected to hold in the new agreement, so he won’t really become free.
P Adam Podlesh -- They could do better, they could do worse.
WR Mike Sims-Walker -- The team told him before the lockout they’d be going another direction.
Tennessee Titans
DE Jacob Ford -- The Titans know his situational pass rushing value but are also looking to beef up and emphasize stopping the run.
FB Ahmard Hall -- An important guy for Chris Johnson and a rock on a team with little leadership even if he’s not an every-down guy.
G Leroy Harris -- The team’s faith in him as the starter at left guard appears to be unwavering.
LB Stephen Tulloch -- I suspect his view of his value and the league’s view are quite different.
In general, we expect too much from late-round picks. (And from overall draft batting averages.)
In a recent conversation with former Denver general manager Ted Sundquist, he pointed to an article he once read in Ourlads by Joe Landers. Apologies, I couldn’t find the link.
“Using some common sense and a little investigative research, you'll find that it's rare, at least according to Landers’ study, to find a cornerback or running back or wide receiver that's really going to help you in the last three rounds,” Sundquist said. “And yet you'll find teams constantly take a reach on one of these positions.
“Evidence shows you're more likely to find a defensive tackle, offensive lineman, safety or tight end in the later rounds. Why? Most conventional wisdom says don't draft a safety or tight end high due to escalating rookie salaries and the going market at the position. As for defensive tackles or offensive linemen, it’s probably because of the greater numbers at the position. Both circumstances force down talented players at those positions.”
I went back and combed over the AFC South drafts since 2002, to see how many picks they spent on each side of the ledger Sundquist sets forth and how often the Colts, Jaguars, Texans and Titans did well with a fifth-, sixth- or seventh-round pick at those spots. This is, of course, highly unscientific. Metrics guys can probably shred it. But I thought it worth fiddling with.
Notables are players who played significantly, even if it’s been with another team, or recent picks who appear on track to contribute.
Houston Texans
WRs, RBs. CBs: 9
DTs, OL, S, TEs: 14
Most: Six safeties, four receivers, corners and defensive tackle
Notables:Colts
WRs, RBs. CBs: 7
DTs, OL, S, TEs: 13
Most: 13 offensive linemen
Notables:Jaguars
WRs, RBs. CBs: 12
DTs, OL, S, TEs: 9
Most: Five receivers, four offensive linemen
Notables:Titans
WRs, RBs. CBs: 14
DTs, OL, S, TEs: 16
Most: Seven offensive linemen, six wide receivers
Notables:
Of the notables from the division drafted since 2002, 73 percent (19) have been from the positions Sundquist says teams should concentrate on late while 27 percent (seven) play positions he believes should generally be avoided.
I'd be fine with the Titans not wasting yet another late pick on a receiver and with the Texans using late-rounders on something other than corners and receivers for sure. But it's not like Houston's spending late picks on safeties or the Colts use of such selections on offensive linemen have paid huge dividends either.
I'd love to read your thoughts.
In a recent conversation with former Denver general manager Ted Sundquist, he pointed to an article he once read in Ourlads by Joe Landers. Apologies, I couldn’t find the link.
“Using some common sense and a little investigative research, you'll find that it's rare, at least according to Landers’ study, to find a cornerback or running back or wide receiver that's really going to help you in the last three rounds,” Sundquist said. “And yet you'll find teams constantly take a reach on one of these positions.
“Evidence shows you're more likely to find a defensive tackle, offensive lineman, safety or tight end in the later rounds. Why? Most conventional wisdom says don't draft a safety or tight end high due to escalating rookie salaries and the going market at the position. As for defensive tackles or offensive linemen, it’s probably because of the greater numbers at the position. Both circumstances force down talented players at those positions.”
I went back and combed over the AFC South drafts since 2002, to see how many picks they spent on each side of the ledger Sundquist sets forth and how often the Colts, Jaguars, Texans and Titans did well with a fifth-, sixth- or seventh-round pick at those spots. This is, of course, highly unscientific. Metrics guys can probably shred it. But I thought it worth fiddling with.
Notables are players who played significantly, even if it’s been with another team, or recent picks who appear on track to contribute.
Houston Texans
WRs, RBs. CBs: 9
DTs, OL, S, TEs: 14
Most: Six safeties, four receivers, corners and defensive tackle
Notables:
- Cornerback Brice McCain, 2009 sixth round
- Safety Dominique Barber, 2008 sixth round
- Receiver David Anderson, 2006 seventh round
- Safety C.C. Brown, 2005 sixth round
- Corner Demarcus Faggins, 2002 sixth round
- Defensive tackle Howard Green, 2002 sixth round
Colts
WRs, RBs. CBs: 7
DTs, OL, S, TEs: 13
Most: 13 offensive linemen
Notables:
- Tight end Brody Eldridge, 2010 fifth round
- Receiver Pierre Garcon, 2008 sixth round
- Guard Jamey Richard, 2008 seventh round
- Tackle Charlie Johnson, 2006 sixth round
- Safety Antoine Bethea, 2006 sixth round
- Guard Jake Scott, 2004 fifth round
Jaguars
WRs, RBs. CBs: 12
DTs, OL, S, TEs: 9
Most: Five receivers, four offensive linemen
Notables:
- Tight end Zach Miller, 2009 sixth round
- Running back Rashad Jennings, 2009 seventh round
- Guard Uche Nwaneri, 2007 fifth rounder
- Defensive tackle Derek Landri, 2007 fifth round
- Safety Gerald Sensabaugh, 2005 fifth round
Titans
WRs, RBs. CBs: 14
DTs, OL, S, TEs: 16
Most: Seven offensive linemen, six wide receivers
Notables:
- Corner Cortland Finnegan, 2006 seventh round
- Running back Quinton Ganther, 2006 seventh round
- Defensive tackle Antonio Johnson, 2007 fifth round
- Offensive lineman Daniel Loper, 2005 fifth round
- Tight end Bo Scaife, 2005 sixth round
- Guard Jacob Bell, 2004 fifth round
- Center/guard Eugene Amano, 2004 seventh round
- Safety Donnie Nickey, 2003 fifth rounder
- Guard/center Justin Hartwig, 2002 sixth rounder
Of the notables from the division drafted since 2002, 73 percent (19) have been from the positions Sundquist says teams should concentrate on late while 27 percent (seven) play positions he believes should generally be avoided.
I'd be fine with the Titans not wasting yet another late pick on a receiver and with the Texans using late-rounders on something other than corners and receivers for sure. But it's not like Houston's spending late picks on safeties or the Colts use of such selections on offensive linemen have paid huge dividends either.
I'd love to read your thoughts.
For draft, Polian will presume FAs are gone
April, 6, 2011
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With the draft slated to take place ahead of free agency, how will teams determine their needs if they don't know whether they will be able to retain their own guys with expiring contracts?
Colts vice chairman Bill Polian said he’ll take a worst-case scenario approach.
I asked him, as an example, whether safety ranks as a Colts draft need considering Melvin Bullitt could be an unrestricted free agent if a new CBA is struck.
“I think you have to go into the draft and say, ‘Anybody who’s out there [as a possible unrestricted free agent] is not coming back,'” Polian said. “Now, that’s for draft purposes. Don’t misconstrue what I am saying. That’s for purposes of evaluating players in the draft.
“We hope like the devil to get Melvin Bullitt back. I don’t know if we will or we won’t.”
I feel certain that thinking doesn’t apply to Peyton Manning, who isn't under contract for 2011 but who got a franchise tag before the CBA expired.
Elsewhere, Polian's comment gives us some insight into what Indianapolis may be looking to address in the draft.
Among the Colts’ potential free agents to-be are running back Joseph Addai, left tackle Charlie Johnson, linebacker Clint Session, defensive tackles Antonio Johnson and Daniel Muir and kicker Adam Vinatieri.
The Colts probably have enough at running back and linebacker even without Addai and Session. Maybe there is a blue-chip guy too good to resist, but otherwise a late pick to help ensure depth could suffice. But offensive line is a primary need even if Johnson returns and a big defensive tackle could be an upgrade over Johnson or Muir.
Of that group, only Vinatieri will be unrestricted if the lockout is lifted by the courts and the NFL imposes the most recent set of rules. In that scenario, players need six years rather than four to reach unrestricted free agency.
Colts vice chairman Bill Polian said he’ll take a worst-case scenario approach.
I asked him, as an example, whether safety ranks as a Colts draft need considering Melvin Bullitt could be an unrestricted free agent if a new CBA is struck.
“I think you have to go into the draft and say, ‘Anybody who’s out there [as a possible unrestricted free agent] is not coming back,'” Polian said. “Now, that’s for draft purposes. Don’t misconstrue what I am saying. That’s for purposes of evaluating players in the draft.
“We hope like the devil to get Melvin Bullitt back. I don’t know if we will or we won’t.”
I feel certain that thinking doesn’t apply to Peyton Manning, who isn't under contract for 2011 but who got a franchise tag before the CBA expired.
Elsewhere, Polian's comment gives us some insight into what Indianapolis may be looking to address in the draft.
Among the Colts’ potential free agents to-be are running back Joseph Addai, left tackle Charlie Johnson, linebacker Clint Session, defensive tackles Antonio Johnson and Daniel Muir and kicker Adam Vinatieri.
The Colts probably have enough at running back and linebacker even without Addai and Session. Maybe there is a blue-chip guy too good to resist, but otherwise a late pick to help ensure depth could suffice. But offensive line is a primary need even if Johnson returns and a big defensive tackle could be an upgrade over Johnson or Muir.
Of that group, only Vinatieri will be unrestricted if the lockout is lifted by the courts and the NFL imposes the most recent set of rules. In that scenario, players need six years rather than four to reach unrestricted free agency.
If the NFLPA wins an injunction that stops the lockout, Mark Maske reports the NFL’s intent will be to stay with to the rules of 2010 -- with no salary cap and tougher criteria for free agency.
If players need six years instead of four to be unrestricted, it will hold back some key players in the AFC South, restricting their ability to move and tying them to restricted free-agent tender offers.
The Titans and Texans officially announced their tenders, the Colts had several reported and all indications were the Jaguars, who had only a couple candidates, stayed away from the process.
Who will be held back in such a scenario?
It would be a great landscape for the Colts.
Here’s a team by team look at how 2010 rules could affect 2011 teams:
Houston
The team would control the movement of four players it likes: Receiver Jacoby Jones, defensive end Mark Anderson, offensive tackle Rashad Butler and quarterback Matt Leinart.
Jones is a player they would like to keep, and while he did not pan out last season the way they hoped, retaining him could eliminate or reduce the one need we can find when looking through their depth chart -- a potentially dynamic receiver beyond Andre Johnson.
Leinart was a third stringer behind Matt Schaub and Dan Orlovsky. But he could have value in a league where a lot of teams have holes at quarterback.
Indianapolis
The Colts will fare far better at holding their roster together in this scenario, as it gives them extended control of six players who could hit the market if four years of service was the standard: running back Joseph Addai, offensive lineman Charlie Johnson, defensive tackles Antonio Johnson and Daniel Muir, strong safety Melvin Bullitt and linebacker Clint Session.
Five of those players could be in the starting lineup on opening day and all of them would play significant roles. Bullitt and Session are the most likely to be attractive to other teams if they come free, and Bullitt could create a hole the team would have to address through the draft or free agency.
Jacksonville
The two key players the team could hold on to with a tender would be linebacker Justin Durant and punter Adam Podlesh. But all indications were the team didn’t give either a tender offer.
Tennessee
I expect the team will be happy to hold on to fullback Ahmard Hall and guard Leroy Harris. Though Harris was part of interior line issues last season, his position coach, Mike Munchak, is now his head coach and has said he believes those issues can be fixed by the incumbents. Hall was not as good in 2010 as he’d been, but is a good blocker who’s a respected leader.
Jacob Ford could be the sort of guy the Titans move away from as they’ve talked of beefing up at defensive end, but they tagged him.
No one in the division will be more upset to see things pan out this way that middle linebacker Stephen Tulloch, who was unhappy he didn’t reach the market last season. I think he’d feel like a prisoner if he’s back under a tag without a long-term deal. I also suspect, even with 32 teams as possibilities, he wouldn’t land the deal he thinks he would.
If players need six years instead of four to be unrestricted, it will hold back some key players in the AFC South, restricting their ability to move and tying them to restricted free-agent tender offers.
The Titans and Texans officially announced their tenders, the Colts had several reported and all indications were the Jaguars, who had only a couple candidates, stayed away from the process.
Who will be held back in such a scenario?
It would be a great landscape for the Colts.
Here’s a team by team look at how 2010 rules could affect 2011 teams:
Houston
The team would control the movement of four players it likes: Receiver Jacoby Jones, defensive end Mark Anderson, offensive tackle Rashad Butler and quarterback Matt Leinart.
Jones is a player they would like to keep, and while he did not pan out last season the way they hoped, retaining him could eliminate or reduce the one need we can find when looking through their depth chart -- a potentially dynamic receiver beyond Andre Johnson.
Leinart was a third stringer behind Matt Schaub and Dan Orlovsky. But he could have value in a league where a lot of teams have holes at quarterback.
Indianapolis
The Colts will fare far better at holding their roster together in this scenario, as it gives them extended control of six players who could hit the market if four years of service was the standard: running back Joseph Addai, offensive lineman Charlie Johnson, defensive tackles Antonio Johnson and Daniel Muir, strong safety Melvin Bullitt and linebacker Clint Session.
Five of those players could be in the starting lineup on opening day and all of them would play significant roles. Bullitt and Session are the most likely to be attractive to other teams if they come free, and Bullitt could create a hole the team would have to address through the draft or free agency.
Jacksonville
The two key players the team could hold on to with a tender would be linebacker Justin Durant and punter Adam Podlesh. But all indications were the team didn’t give either a tender offer.
Tennessee
I expect the team will be happy to hold on to fullback Ahmard Hall and guard Leroy Harris. Though Harris was part of interior line issues last season, his position coach, Mike Munchak, is now his head coach and has said he believes those issues can be fixed by the incumbents. Hall was not as good in 2010 as he’d been, but is a good blocker who’s a respected leader.
Jacob Ford could be the sort of guy the Titans move away from as they’ve talked of beefing up at defensive end, but they tagged him.
No one in the division will be more upset to see things pan out this way that middle linebacker Stephen Tulloch, who was unhappy he didn’t reach the market last season. I think he’d feel like a prisoner if he’s back under a tag without a long-term deal. I also suspect, even with 32 teams as possibilities, he wouldn’t land the deal he thinks he would.
D. A. Wade from Orlando writes: Assuming the NFL CBA issue doesn't resolve before the draft in April, how does a team determine its draft needs? Do NFL teams operate on the assumption that all free agents will be lost, or do they assume the free agents will be retained, or is it a case-by-case basis? Or do teams draft without regard to their needs? Thanks for the insight.
Paul Kuharsky: I would think they‘d expect there will be some form of free agency at some point.
So it’ll be an interesting flip -- for years if you didn’t get something in free agency, you’d say, “Well, we address it in the draft.” Now you’ll say, “If we didn’t get it in the draft, we can get it in free agency.”
The wrench this time is a team may not have worked real hard to retain its own guys in February because it didn’t want to give out bonuses heading toward a lockout.
But in a league where more and more of the quality programs are draft builders, it almost seems to make more sense with the draft first, particularly if those salaries are in line to wind up more manageable.
I think bad, panicky teams will panic and force need in the draft, while better non-panicky teams won’t, and will get even better.
Cory from Denver writes: If there is a lockout and the NFL season is lost, what happens to Indianapolis hosting the Super Bowl? Do they host the following year or lose out completely? Thanks.
Paul Kuharsky: Can’t take away New Orleans’ Super Bowl in 2013 or NY/NJ’s in 2014. Presumably Indy would go to the back of the line and get the game played in 2015.
But the season won’t be lost. Players won’t be able to hold out that long.
Jim in Greenville, S.C., writes: With the draft so full of DTs in the first 2 rounds, could you see the Titans going to a 3-4 by taking someone like Marcell Dareus in the first and Drake Nevis (LSU) in the second or is it far more complicated than that? I'd love to see Jason Jones on the outside of a 3-4. Would he fit there? Would he stay healthier in that rather than the current circumstance?
Paul Kuharsky: It’s amazing how many people like to suggest the Titans should go to a 3-4. Even if they intend to go bigger at defensive end and part with Jason Babin, Dave Ball and Jacob Ford, all free agents, they still have some of their best players on the defensive line -- Jones, Derrick Morgan, William Hayes. Their three linebackers last year were unproductive, and Stephen Tulloch is a free agent to be. So you want a team with two starting linebackers who were unproductive, Gerald McRath and Will Witherspoon, to change to a defense that calls for more linebackers? I’m not following the logic no matter who they can draft. It’s a two-year transition minimum, and they’ve got personnel that can be effective in a better 4-3.
Jeff in Nashville writes: Are we going to get a follow-up article to your "Cocky Mallett..." article that details how impressively he threw the ball today? His on field performance has garnered rave reviews across the board and one person even said it was the best QB performance at the combine in the last 10 years. When should we expect that article?
Paul Kuharsky: So defensive. Are you related to him or just a passionate Arkansas fan? Apparently you stopped paying attention right after you read the entry you didn’t like.
Here’s a piece I did less than 24 hours later on how the interviews can be over-interpreted. Did you also miss this one highlighting Mallett’s workout?
Also you do know that he SHOULD dominate a workout with no defenders or decision-making involved, right?
Chris in Phoenix writes: What are the odds that the Colts look into the recently released Tommie Harris since both Antonio Johnson and Dan Muir are currently FA's as well? I would also like to know your thoughts on the impact he would have with his unique speed at the defensive tackle position playing alongside Dwight Freeney and Robert Mathis.
Paul Kuharsky: I don’t think the Colts are in a panic over the contract status of Daniel Muir or Antonio Johnson. I could see the Colts drafting a guy to be a front-liner with Fili Moala.
I would have been very surprised to see the Colts active cutting players before free agency.
Logan in Duluth, Minn., writes: In regards to the NFL schedule length, I was wondering why they have to have either 16 or 18 games. Would it not possible to drop two preseason games and add one regular season game? Is it because of playoff tie breakers?
Paul Kuharsky: An odd number of games is sloppy. Then some teams have an extra home game, others have one fewer. How does that affect competitive balance as teams vie for the same division crown or playoff berth?
And they would never drop two preseason to add one regular season. They have to have the same number of total gates or more, otherwise they are giving up money and they won’t be doing that.
Titansfan from Dover, Del., writes: What is the situation with Chris Johnson's contract?
Paul Kuharsky: He’s under contract. They can’t talk about an extension until July, presuming a new CBA is in place by then. A player/team can’t renegotiate the same deal twice inside a year.
Jesse in Muncie, Ind., writes: I am trying to find the complete draft order, but I can only get the first round. Are all seven rounds not yet determined? If that's the case, when will they be set?
Paul Kuharsky: Three rounds are set. Compensatory selections are announced in late March, and they start at the end of the third round and are tacked on to the end of every round after that. That’s why there isn’t a seven-round order yet.
Brent H. at Columbia, Tenn., writes: With the Broncos turning to Kyle Orton as the starter to open camp, could the Titans target Tim Tebow as a possible trade candidate as the QB of the future? He may not have the skills to be the answer immediately, but will be as ready as any rookie QB that we draft, and possesses great intangibles and leadership that the Titans have lacked from their QB position in the past (see Vince Young).
Paul Kuharsky: The Broncos have no idea who will start. John Fox and his staff have not been on the field with those guys. It doesn’t matter what they say right now.
If the Titans scouts weren’t high on Tebow a year ago, why are the high on him now?
They don’t need a quarterback with physical gifts OR with intangibles. They need one with both. Who cares if Tebow can lead if he can’t throw?
Jwill25 from Columbia, S.C., writes: Now that it seems like the Raiders will not be able to sign Nnamdi Asomugha, would it make since for the Colts to cut Kelvin Hayden? Hayden is scheduled to make a little over $9 million next season and for $4-5 million more we can get a top-notch cornerback in his prime that can hold up a hold season. Not to mention the numbers he produces turnover-wise is worth that much alone. I really believe he could do for us what Charles Woodson does for Green Bay. What are your thoughts?
Paul Kuharsky: That’s not what Hayden is scheduled to make, it’s what he’ll count against the cap. He’s scheduled to make $6.015 million. Asomugha will cost a lot more than that.
And Jim Irsay has publicly said they won’t chase Asomugha. So that basically ends that.
Jonathan in Nashville writes: Chris Johnson Trade!?!?I happened to catch the tail-end of a conversation on XM Radio this morning that the Titans were going to "Shop" CJ around for a QB trade, is this true and if so why would they give up their best offensive player?
Paul Kuharsky: Not true. If it was true, why would the team be talking about it?
A top three running back is not worth a top 10 or 15 quarterback. Who’s trading a good quarterback for a good running back, when the rushing champ was undrafted and the good quarterbacks are almost all high picks?
Drew from Richmond, Va., writes: Any info on this DeMario Pressley? I mean from what I can put together he is essentially a second year player when it comes to playing time who has not proven that he is a playmaker much less a starter. The Colts already have six men listed at defensive tackle. Can we expect a few guys getting cut off that list, and how did this guy grab attention when there are bigger names on the market at that position? I agree that the Colts need to strengthen the run defense and start with the middle of the line but is this guy close to an answer?
Paul Kuharsky: I wouldn’t get excited about Houston’s toss-offs. Maybe he’s a serviceable, back-of-the-rotation guy.
Claiming a guy off waivers is a much cheaper and lower-risk option than signing Shaun Rogers or Tommie Harris or Marcus Stroud. They never said Pressley is a big answer. Such an addition means they think he’s worth bringing in and working with. He could easily be cut two weeks after coaches get to know him. Having him means nothing about their willingness to draft or look at a free agent later.
That said, don’t get caught up in big names. Did you know a lot about Antoine Bethea before they brought him in? Robert Mathis? Jerraud Powers?
Joe in Murfreesburo, Tenn., writes: Mel Kiper Jr. has the Titans taking a DE at #8 in the draft. I don't know if Mel remembers, but the Titans are fine at defensive end. They don't need to re-sign Jason Babin. In fact, they might be better off avoiding a big deal if it turns out he was just a one-year wonder. Derrick Morgan will be back, and he will be ready to go with Dave Ball OR Babin on the other side. Either way, they have much bigger needs than to draft another defensive end, when they will basically have a first-round rookie in Morgan next year. Talk some sense into the man Paul, we need a QB.
Paul Kuharsky: Of course they need a quarterback. But if they don’t like an option they have at No. 8, they’d be dumb to force it.
Babin, Ball and Ford are all en route to unrestricted free agency, they are all undersized and they all faded down the stretch. There is great defensive end talent high in this draft and the Titans have indicated they’d like to have more well-rounded, sturdy guys at the spot.
I’d have no problem with the Titans taking an end to go with Morgan and Hayes. A sustained pass rush that can defend the runs makes everyone better -- including a second-round quarterback.
Jarell from Atlanta by way of Gary, Ind., writes: I read a piece you linked the other day about the Colts free agents. I was shocked to realize how many of our guys are going to be up for free agency, who do you think we keep, specifically between Joseph Addai and Melvin Bullitt? I think Charlie Johnson is a talent, though not the best option at tackle, but the only option we have right now. And what about the tackles... Antonio Johnson came on last season at the end, and can be the reason why the rush defense fell behind while he was out in the playoffs. And Daniel Muir has become a staple in our community...what do you think?
Paul Kuharsky: Well first, I think being a staple in the community doesn’t mean much if you’re a middling player looking for a contract.
I don’t see them choosing between Addai and Bullitt and don’t know why you do.
Think they’d like to have Addai, Bullitt, Johnson, Johnson, Muir and Clint Session all back. They generally work hard to keep their own. I don’t think Addai, either Johnson or Muir draw a lot of interest from other teams. They are all tailored to the Colts, a team that works hard to keep core, valuable guys they drafted or brought in as rookies.
A quality O-line pickup could mean Charlie Johnson is moved to guard or sixth man. A quality defensive tackle in the draft or free agency could mean the end of Antonio Johnson or Muir.
Bullitt may be the toughest to retain because there is a lot of safety need around the league. The Texans and Jaguars would both be wise to chase him.
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We’re Colts and Titans heavy, so I tweeted a request for Texans and Jaguars questions and did a rapid fire Twitter session. (I’m @ESPN_AFCSouth.)
@JoeDowntownVS2 so have the texans still decided safety dosent matters even after last year?
PK: Should have looked at available guys. But they still have draft and real free agency. If they don't act then, they're nuts.
@TheMizellGroup being that Garrard never seems to close out the season we know have consecutive seasons in the "L" are we drafting a QB
PK: Absolutely they'll look hard at a developmental QB.
@DustyGmoe With the signings yesterday from #Texans, can you tell where they will go in the first two rounds?
PK: Defense, defense, defense. OLB, FS, SS, CB and despite what they say, DT.
@baron_von_brad any other team make a play for Hawk?
PK: Don't think there was time and he may not have been interested knowing they were working on a new deal.
@HoustonDiehards is gerald sebsabaugh's history w/ Wade going to land him in Houston once free agency happens? Or are we counting on Nolan?
PK: Nolan in the mix. I hope they do better than Sensabaugh.
@tntitansfan10 how much long will Garrard be Jags QB?
PK: Five or six games if they aren't good ones.
@JasonEmbry With Texans' defensive changes, what does future hold for Okoye? And should Texans upgrade No. 2 WR?
PK: Will get a chance to play 3-4 end for Wade. I'd like to see another option at No. 2, though they invested in Walter.
@Hodari11 Does Rahean Mathis have any trade value?Trade now instead of getting nothing when he leavesWants alot more than he is worth
PK: It's not baseball, where you trade a vet for prospects before he's done. They need Mathis, too young in secondary without him.
@AnnaMegan Is getting a new deal for Vonta Leach a must for Texans?
PK: He was very good last year and I wouldn't mess with the formula. But FBs are generally replaceable.
@eggsngrits Not a #Texans fan, but I have to ask: Why would Arian Foster report to camp for a one-year $480k tender offer?
PK: Because he's under contract to do so. I think they'll try to reward him, but they get a financial reward for grabbing him.
@sumpteravada if we had had the social network we hve now n the 80s...wud Marino/Montana/Moon/Elway been held under the microscope?
PK: Their lives would have been different for sure.
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Paul Kuharsky: I would think they‘d expect there will be some form of free agency at some point.
So it’ll be an interesting flip -- for years if you didn’t get something in free agency, you’d say, “Well, we address it in the draft.” Now you’ll say, “If we didn’t get it in the draft, we can get it in free agency.”
The wrench this time is a team may not have worked real hard to retain its own guys in February because it didn’t want to give out bonuses heading toward a lockout.
But in a league where more and more of the quality programs are draft builders, it almost seems to make more sense with the draft first, particularly if those salaries are in line to wind up more manageable.
I think bad, panicky teams will panic and force need in the draft, while better non-panicky teams won’t, and will get even better.
Cory from Denver writes: If there is a lockout and the NFL season is lost, what happens to Indianapolis hosting the Super Bowl? Do they host the following year or lose out completely? Thanks.
Paul Kuharsky: Can’t take away New Orleans’ Super Bowl in 2013 or NY/NJ’s in 2014. Presumably Indy would go to the back of the line and get the game played in 2015.
But the season won’t be lost. Players won’t be able to hold out that long.
Jim in Greenville, S.C., writes: With the draft so full of DTs in the first 2 rounds, could you see the Titans going to a 3-4 by taking someone like Marcell Dareus in the first and Drake Nevis (LSU) in the second or is it far more complicated than that? I'd love to see Jason Jones on the outside of a 3-4. Would he fit there? Would he stay healthier in that rather than the current circumstance?
Paul Kuharsky: It’s amazing how many people like to suggest the Titans should go to a 3-4. Even if they intend to go bigger at defensive end and part with Jason Babin, Dave Ball and Jacob Ford, all free agents, they still have some of their best players on the defensive line -- Jones, Derrick Morgan, William Hayes. Their three linebackers last year were unproductive, and Stephen Tulloch is a free agent to be. So you want a team with two starting linebackers who were unproductive, Gerald McRath and Will Witherspoon, to change to a defense that calls for more linebackers? I’m not following the logic no matter who they can draft. It’s a two-year transition minimum, and they’ve got personnel that can be effective in a better 4-3.
Jeff in Nashville writes: Are we going to get a follow-up article to your "Cocky Mallett..." article that details how impressively he threw the ball today? His on field performance has garnered rave reviews across the board and one person even said it was the best QB performance at the combine in the last 10 years. When should we expect that article?
Paul Kuharsky: So defensive. Are you related to him or just a passionate Arkansas fan? Apparently you stopped paying attention right after you read the entry you didn’t like.
Here’s a piece I did less than 24 hours later on how the interviews can be over-interpreted. Did you also miss this one highlighting Mallett’s workout?
Also you do know that he SHOULD dominate a workout with no defenders or decision-making involved, right?
Chris in Phoenix writes: What are the odds that the Colts look into the recently released Tommie Harris since both Antonio Johnson and Dan Muir are currently FA's as well? I would also like to know your thoughts on the impact he would have with his unique speed at the defensive tackle position playing alongside Dwight Freeney and Robert Mathis.
Paul Kuharsky: I don’t think the Colts are in a panic over the contract status of Daniel Muir or Antonio Johnson. I could see the Colts drafting a guy to be a front-liner with Fili Moala.
I would have been very surprised to see the Colts active cutting players before free agency.
Logan in Duluth, Minn., writes: In regards to the NFL schedule length, I was wondering why they have to have either 16 or 18 games. Would it not possible to drop two preseason games and add one regular season game? Is it because of playoff tie breakers?
Paul Kuharsky: An odd number of games is sloppy. Then some teams have an extra home game, others have one fewer. How does that affect competitive balance as teams vie for the same division crown or playoff berth?
And they would never drop two preseason to add one regular season. They have to have the same number of total gates or more, otherwise they are giving up money and they won’t be doing that.
Titansfan from Dover, Del., writes: What is the situation with Chris Johnson's contract?
Paul Kuharsky: He’s under contract. They can’t talk about an extension until July, presuming a new CBA is in place by then. A player/team can’t renegotiate the same deal twice inside a year.
Jesse in Muncie, Ind., writes: I am trying to find the complete draft order, but I can only get the first round. Are all seven rounds not yet determined? If that's the case, when will they be set?
Paul Kuharsky: Three rounds are set. Compensatory selections are announced in late March, and they start at the end of the third round and are tacked on to the end of every round after that. That’s why there isn’t a seven-round order yet.
Brent H. at Columbia, Tenn., writes: With the Broncos turning to Kyle Orton as the starter to open camp, could the Titans target Tim Tebow as a possible trade candidate as the QB of the future? He may not have the skills to be the answer immediately, but will be as ready as any rookie QB that we draft, and possesses great intangibles and leadership that the Titans have lacked from their QB position in the past (see Vince Young).
Paul Kuharsky: The Broncos have no idea who will start. John Fox and his staff have not been on the field with those guys. It doesn’t matter what they say right now.
If the Titans scouts weren’t high on Tebow a year ago, why are the high on him now?
They don’t need a quarterback with physical gifts OR with intangibles. They need one with both. Who cares if Tebow can lead if he can’t throw?
Jwill25 from Columbia, S.C., writes: Now that it seems like the Raiders will not be able to sign Nnamdi Asomugha, would it make since for the Colts to cut Kelvin Hayden? Hayden is scheduled to make a little over $9 million next season and for $4-5 million more we can get a top-notch cornerback in his prime that can hold up a hold season. Not to mention the numbers he produces turnover-wise is worth that much alone. I really believe he could do for us what Charles Woodson does for Green Bay. What are your thoughts?
Paul Kuharsky: That’s not what Hayden is scheduled to make, it’s what he’ll count against the cap. He’s scheduled to make $6.015 million. Asomugha will cost a lot more than that.
And Jim Irsay has publicly said they won’t chase Asomugha. So that basically ends that.
Jonathan in Nashville writes: Chris Johnson Trade!?!?I happened to catch the tail-end of a conversation on XM Radio this morning that the Titans were going to "Shop" CJ around for a QB trade, is this true and if so why would they give up their best offensive player?
Paul Kuharsky: Not true. If it was true, why would the team be talking about it?
A top three running back is not worth a top 10 or 15 quarterback. Who’s trading a good quarterback for a good running back, when the rushing champ was undrafted and the good quarterbacks are almost all high picks?
Drew from Richmond, Va., writes: Any info on this DeMario Pressley? I mean from what I can put together he is essentially a second year player when it comes to playing time who has not proven that he is a playmaker much less a starter. The Colts already have six men listed at defensive tackle. Can we expect a few guys getting cut off that list, and how did this guy grab attention when there are bigger names on the market at that position? I agree that the Colts need to strengthen the run defense and start with the middle of the line but is this guy close to an answer?
Paul Kuharsky: I wouldn’t get excited about Houston’s toss-offs. Maybe he’s a serviceable, back-of-the-rotation guy.
Claiming a guy off waivers is a much cheaper and lower-risk option than signing Shaun Rogers or Tommie Harris or Marcus Stroud. They never said Pressley is a big answer. Such an addition means they think he’s worth bringing in and working with. He could easily be cut two weeks after coaches get to know him. Having him means nothing about their willingness to draft or look at a free agent later.
That said, don’t get caught up in big names. Did you know a lot about Antoine Bethea before they brought him in? Robert Mathis? Jerraud Powers?
Joe in Murfreesburo, Tenn., writes: Mel Kiper Jr. has the Titans taking a DE at #8 in the draft. I don't know if Mel remembers, but the Titans are fine at defensive end. They don't need to re-sign Jason Babin. In fact, they might be better off avoiding a big deal if it turns out he was just a one-year wonder. Derrick Morgan will be back, and he will be ready to go with Dave Ball OR Babin on the other side. Either way, they have much bigger needs than to draft another defensive end, when they will basically have a first-round rookie in Morgan next year. Talk some sense into the man Paul, we need a QB.
Paul Kuharsky: Of course they need a quarterback. But if they don’t like an option they have at No. 8, they’d be dumb to force it.
Babin, Ball and Ford are all en route to unrestricted free agency, they are all undersized and they all faded down the stretch. There is great defensive end talent high in this draft and the Titans have indicated they’d like to have more well-rounded, sturdy guys at the spot.
I’d have no problem with the Titans taking an end to go with Morgan and Hayes. A sustained pass rush that can defend the runs makes everyone better -- including a second-round quarterback.
Jarell from Atlanta by way of Gary, Ind., writes: I read a piece you linked the other day about the Colts free agents. I was shocked to realize how many of our guys are going to be up for free agency, who do you think we keep, specifically between Joseph Addai and Melvin Bullitt? I think Charlie Johnson is a talent, though not the best option at tackle, but the only option we have right now. And what about the tackles... Antonio Johnson came on last season at the end, and can be the reason why the rush defense fell behind while he was out in the playoffs. And Daniel Muir has become a staple in our community...what do you think?
Paul Kuharsky: Well first, I think being a staple in the community doesn’t mean much if you’re a middling player looking for a contract.
I don’t see them choosing between Addai and Bullitt and don’t know why you do.
Think they’d like to have Addai, Bullitt, Johnson, Johnson, Muir and Clint Session all back. They generally work hard to keep their own. I don’t think Addai, either Johnson or Muir draw a lot of interest from other teams. They are all tailored to the Colts, a team that works hard to keep core, valuable guys they drafted or brought in as rookies.
A quality O-line pickup could mean Charlie Johnson is moved to guard or sixth man. A quality defensive tackle in the draft or free agency could mean the end of Antonio Johnson or Muir.
Bullitt may be the toughest to retain because there is a lot of safety need around the league. The Texans and Jaguars would both be wise to chase him.
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We’re Colts and Titans heavy, so I tweeted a request for Texans and Jaguars questions and did a rapid fire Twitter session. (I’m @ESPN_AFCSouth.)
@JoeDowntownVS2 so have the texans still decided safety dosent matters even after last year?
PK: Should have looked at available guys. But they still have draft and real free agency. If they don't act then, they're nuts.
@TheMizellGroup being that Garrard never seems to close out the season we know have consecutive seasons in the "L" are we drafting a QB
PK: Absolutely they'll look hard at a developmental QB.
@DustyGmoe With the signings yesterday from #Texans, can you tell where they will go in the first two rounds?
PK: Defense, defense, defense. OLB, FS, SS, CB and despite what they say, DT.
@baron_von_brad any other team make a play for Hawk?
PK: Don't think there was time and he may not have been interested knowing they were working on a new deal.
@HoustonDiehards is gerald sebsabaugh's history w/ Wade going to land him in Houston once free agency happens? Or are we counting on Nolan?
PK: Nolan in the mix. I hope they do better than Sensabaugh.
@tntitansfan10 how much long will Garrard be Jags QB?
PK: Five or six games if they aren't good ones.
@JasonEmbry With Texans' defensive changes, what does future hold for Okoye? And should Texans upgrade No. 2 WR?
PK: Will get a chance to play 3-4 end for Wade. I'd like to see another option at No. 2, though they invested in Walter.
@Hodari11 Does Rahean Mathis have any trade value?Trade now instead of getting nothing when he leavesWants alot more than he is worth
PK: It's not baseball, where you trade a vet for prospects before he's done. They need Mathis, too young in secondary without him.
@AnnaMegan Is getting a new deal for Vonta Leach a must for Texans?
PK: He was very good last year and I wouldn't mess with the formula. But FBs are generally replaceable.
@eggsngrits Not a #Texans fan, but I have to ask: Why would Arian Foster report to camp for a one-year $480k tender offer?
PK: Because he's under contract to do so. I think they'll try to reward him, but they get a financial reward for grabbing him.
@sumpteravada if we had had the social network we hve now n the 80s...wud Marino/Montana/Moon/Elway been held under the microscope?
PK: Their lives would have been different for sure.
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Our look at Horton's look at division needs
February, 22, 2011
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Paul Kuharsky | ESPN.com
Here’s an AFC South window into Gary Horton’s Insider file on team-by-team AFC needs.
Houston Texans
Horton’s got linebackers third: “This will be a 3-4 defense under Wade Phillips and that will require pass-rushing outside linebackers. Connor Barwin is the Texans' only player who fits that description. Not only do they need a starter, but they probably also need a second guy to add depth to this unit.”
My thoughts: Horton says safety ranks first and corner second, and I am fine with that because they do have cornerbacks, but after cutting Eugene Wilson, there is a hole at free safety. I think two new starting safeties and a veteran corner who could knock everyone’s role down a peg would be ideal.
Horton lists tight end among the team’s other needs. I understand Owen Daniels could disappear, but the team has four tight ends, three drafted in the fourth and fifth round in the past two years. It’s time to use those guys, not add to them.
Indianapolis Colts
Horton’s got defensive tackle second: “This is still one of the worst run defenses in the NFL, and it lacks an elite player inside who can hold his own at the point of attack. Fili Moala is a good, young player, but Daniel Muir and Antonio Johnson don't make enough plays, and both could be gone in free agency.”
My thoughts: Tackle is regarded as the top need by him, by me, by just about everyone. I like the defensive tackle thinking. I hope they re-sign Melvin Bullitt, which makes safety only a depth need. I’m not convinced they need a running back, which he lists as an additional need, and I’d re-sign Joseph Addai and use that pick for yet another line upgrade.
As for quarterback, which he lists as another additional need – why? Peyton Manning’s new deal will be five or six years and his backup gets no snaps to develop. It’s too early to try to develop his successor.
Jacksonville Jaguars
Horton’s got defensive end first: “Jacksonville used its first four picks in last year's draft on its defensive front and did not improve much. If veteran Aaron Kampman returns healthy from a 2010 injury, it will help, but this group doesn't have pass-rushers, and that exposes a mediocre secondary in coverage.”
My thoughts: There is no way anything but safety can rank first, and Horton’s got the position second even while saying they “may” need two new ones. There is no maybe about it to me, and it’s the top priority. They used their top four picks on defensive linemen and signed Kampman last year. How many swings do they need? Fix the "mediocre secondary."
Horton’s got defensive back third, and receiver, outside linebacker and quarterback in the additional column. Let’s not underestimate the need for a signal-caller to develop. I see one by the third round.
Tennessee Titans
Horton’s got OG/Center second behind quarterback: “The interior of this offensive line struggles, which is not good when you have a run-oriented attack with Chris Johnson. Leroy Harris needs to be upgraded at left guard, as well as Eugene Amano at center, and the Titans need two powerful run-blockers.”
My thoughts: Mike Munchak was the offensive line coach and says he believes the interior will improve. I don’t envision the team spending a value pick or free agent dollars addressing the spot.
Quarterback is priority one, then it’s defense. Horton’s got inside linebacker third and outside linebacker as an additional need. The Titans need to revamp the spot, for a second year in a row and find some plays. Defensive tackle size is a need that should rate higher than “other.” I'd put it up there with quarterback and linebacker.
Houston Texans
My thoughts: Horton says safety ranks first and corner second, and I am fine with that because they do have cornerbacks, but after cutting Eugene Wilson, there is a hole at free safety. I think two new starting safeties and a veteran corner who could knock everyone’s role down a peg would be ideal.
Horton lists tight end among the team’s other needs. I understand Owen Daniels could disappear, but the team has four tight ends, three drafted in the fourth and fifth round in the past two years. It’s time to use those guys, not add to them.
Indianapolis Colts
Horton’s got defensive tackle second: “This is still one of the worst run defenses in the NFL, and it lacks an elite player inside who can hold his own at the point of attack. Fili Moala is a good, young player, but Daniel Muir and Antonio Johnson don't make enough plays, and both could be gone in free agency.”
As for quarterback, which he lists as another additional need – why? Peyton Manning’s new deal will be five or six years and his backup gets no snaps to develop. It’s too early to try to develop his successor.
Jacksonville Jaguars
My thoughts: There is no way anything but safety can rank first, and Horton’s got the position second even while saying they “may” need two new ones. There is no maybe about it to me, and it’s the top priority. They used their top four picks on defensive linemen and signed Kampman last year. How many swings do they need? Fix the "mediocre secondary."
Horton’s got defensive back third, and receiver, outside linebacker and quarterback in the additional column. Let’s not underestimate the need for a signal-caller to develop. I see one by the third round.
Tennessee Titans
My thoughts: Mike Munchak was the offensive line coach and says he believes the interior will improve. I don’t envision the team spending a value pick or free agent dollars addressing the spot.
Quarterback is priority one, then it’s defense. Horton’s got inside linebacker third and outside linebacker as an additional need. The Titans need to revamp the spot, for a second year in a row and find some plays. Defensive tackle size is a need that should rate higher than “other.” I'd put it up there with quarterback and linebacker.
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