Big 12: Orie Lemon

Mailbag: TCU future, underrated D, OSU

October, 14, 2011
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Colin in Tulsa, Okla.: Is Johnny Thomas being ineligible a blessing in disguise like Orie Lemon getting hurt? OSU had a serviceable backup (Donald Booker) and would've been left to have Caleb Lavey be the day 1 starter last year. So, this year Dawtawion Lowe comes in and plays well enough next to Markelle and Johnny Thomas can come back next year? That way OSU isn't left to start some random safety next to Daytawion next year.

David Ubben: That's maybe a little harsh and perhaps insensitive, but I must say: I think I agree. It's an interesting point. There's no doubt that Oklahoma State's defense in 2010 benefited from having Lemon out there, and Booker was outstanding in 2009.

This year, we've seen a guy in Lowe that had huge potential really step into that role and not see much fall off. You never like to see guys deal with academic issues or have serious injuries like Lemon had, but Oklahoma State has been fortunate to have players behind defensive leaders step up and do well. Credit Mike Gundy and his staff for recruiting well and having a much deeper team than when he arrived. The difference is unbelievable.

Next year, when Thomas joins Lowe, you'll see another good group of safeties at OSU.


Ryan in Arlington, Texas, asked: Sean Porter for Texas A&M has 6.5 sacks this year (3rd in the nation), while the entire Longhorn defense has 7.0 (91st in the nation). Does this stat say more about Sean Porter, the effectiveness of Manny Diaz's or Tim DeRuyter's blitzes (who are both very aggressive), or the Longhorn defensive personnel?

DU: I'll say Porter. He's been outstanding, and has done an outstanding job of being everywhere. The combination of a) big leads early in games and b) defenses seeing they can beat A&M through the air has resulted in the Aggies defending 244 passes this year, which is 47 more than Texas and twice as many as Texas Tech, which has faced the fewest in the Big 12, with 122. Only Louisiana Tech has faced more pass attempts this season. So, take your pick, there. Texas A&M is racking up sacks but giving up yards by the bunches.

Neither DeRuyter nor Diaz has been outstanding so far this year. Diaz's defense got worked by the first real offense -- albeit one of the nation's best -- in its first real test. DeRuyter's defense has taken a huge step back.

Meanwhile, Porter has undoubtedly taken a big step forward. Kudos to him.


John in Oklahoma City asked: Everyone is down on OSU's defense still this year. About half of our games so far our 2nd or 3rd stringers were playing in the 4th. The Cowboys are only allowing 14.6 ppg through 3 quarters. Plus we are 6th in the nation in creating turnovers. We are much more improved defensively with a better offense to go with it. Big (X)II title here we come!!!!!

DU: Your persuasiveness is surpassed only by your unbridled enthusiasm, John.

That said, you're right, and its a point that's perhaps been overlooked in the defensive statistics for Oklahoma State. Its backups have given up gobs of points this year, but the first team defense has done really well. For those unaware, allow me to point it out:

OSU led its opener 44-13 before giving up a pick six and two garbage-time touchdowns in a 61-34 win.

OSU led Arizona 34-7 before giving up a 54-yard touchdown pass to Texas transfer Dan Buckner.

In a game that kicked off after midnight, OSU led Tulsa 45-6 midway through the third quarter before giving up two quick scores and winning, 59-33.

Finally, last week, OSU led 70-14 with 12:45 left before Kansas' first-teamers scored on a 68-yard touchdown pass and a 31-yard run to make it a 70-28 final.

So, there you go. Take from that what you will. Is OSU's defense great? No. But it's a lot better than the numbers suggest.


Chris J. in Houston asked: You have to give me props next week for this, I'm calling it: Texas beats Oklahoma State this week in a big way.

DU: K. What do I get if you're wrong?


Scott in Oklahoma asked: David, with tcu coming into the fold next year, is the big 12 just going to give them the a&m schedule or will they redo them all together and give osu another catered home game vs. Ou as they have the these last two years? Or will it be another team? Also, will they change next years ou tcu game to a conference game or will it stay as a non conference game ala the colorado cal game this year?

DU: All valid administrative questions that haven't been addressed in this space. Let's change that.

For now, when the Big 12 moves on as a ten-team league in 2012, the schedule is being reworked. TCU won't just slide into Texas A&M's spot. That means they likely won't be the Longhorns' Thanksgiving opponent, a tradition Texas would like to continue. UT president Bill Powers says "a lot of teams are in the mix" for a new opponent. There's lots of talk about Texas Tech filling that role, but it's very much in the air for now. The Big 12 isn't worried about that currently. You've got to know your configuration next year and beyond before you get too concerned about scheduling. That issue will be pushed to the forefront more during the offseason.

As of now, TCU-OU is up in the air, too. It might be kept as an early season game, but like I mentioned earlier, that's up in the air. TCU doesn't have anything to worry about. With a 10-team league and nine-game schedule, they just slide OU in as a conference game and keep their nonconference games with Grambling State, Virginia and SMU. That's a decent set of games. TCU-OU won't be an awkward conference nonconference game like Colorado-Cal this year.

For Oklahoma? Things are a little more complicated. TCU is a good secondary game, but the Sooners already have a home-and-home with Notre Dame (!) on the schedule for 2012 and 2013, but Oklahoma is reportedly looking at replacing the TCU game with Arkansas. That's one heck of a nonconference schedule for the Sooners if it happens. That's nothing new. Oklahoma is the most ambitious scheduling program in the Big 12, and that's a stated goal of the school: to put a compelling product on the field for its fans and schedule to get an edge in the BCS rankings.


Jordan Marshall in Hutchinson, Kan., asked: What do you think is going to happen to the BCS this year when there are going to be 4 undefeated teams at the end of the year (LSU/Alabama, OU/OSU, Wisconsin, and Boise State)? Clemson has a long shot of staying undefeated but that is just another team that could throw the whole system out of whack. Do you think that the BCS will just see this year as a fluke year or do you think that they will finally open their eyes to a playoff system?

DU: It could happen, but if it does, I don't think there's any question that the SEC and Big 12 champ would play each other. I could envision a scenario in which Wisconsin gets in over Oklahoma State, but hopping over Oklahoma or one of the SEC teams sounds impossible.

Jumping Oklahoma State is highly unlikely. We can talk conference strength, but simpler than that, just look at their past and future schedules.

OSU has a road win against a top 10 team, and four more top 25 teams on its schedule, closing with the crescendo of hosting Oklahoma.

The Big Ten is clearly down this season. Nebraska and Ohio State aren't great teams and will lose again. Michigan looks a bit overrated at No. 11. Wisconsin is a legitimate title contender, but even if Bucky runs the table, its weak nonconference schedule and the Big 12's depth and strength across the conference will push an undefeated Oklahoma or Oklahoma State team into the title game to face off with the SEC once again.
A few teams across the Big 12 updated their depth charts in preparation for the season. Here's what you ought to know.

KANSAS STATE
  • Bill Snyder's depth chart for the team's game notes heading into next week's game against Eastern Kentucky? A work of art.
  • Snyder said he'll be releasing the depth chart tomorrow. More later on the Wildcats.
OKLAHOMA
  • Oklahoma didn't have any huge surprises, but the biggest news: Jamell Fleming has officially reclaimed his spot above Gabe Lynn at the boundary corner spot, despite missing all of spring practice after leaving the university.
  • Three true freshmen also broke the lineup. Kameel Jackson will back up Trey Franks at receiver, and recently added linebacker Kellen Jones is a co-backup with Jaydan Bird behind Tom Wort at middle linebacker. Nila Kasitati is a co-backup behind Tyler Evans at right guard.
  • Doubt the committee approach at running back? Brennan Clay, Dominique Whaley and Roy Finch are all co-starters at the position. Finch is listed last on that group, but we'll see how carries are distributed in Week 1 vs. Tulsa. Whaley is a walk-on who has had big days in the spring game the past two seasons.
  • Ronnell Lewis is listed as the starter at defensive end, but the university has yet to officially clarify his eligibility status. Kenny Stills is likely suspended for Saturday's game after an offseason arrest, but he's listed as the starter at receiver.
TEXAS TECH
  • Texas Tech has pair of hyped defensive linemen, and both cracked the two-deep. Leon Mackey, a juco transfer, will start at defensive end in Week 1 for the Red Raiders against Texas State. Meanwhile, former UNC signee and recently cleared true freshman Delvon Simmons will back up Kerry Hyder at defensive tackle in Chad Glasgow's 4-2-5 scheme, fresh from TCU.
  • Glasgow will lean on a true freshman for one of his two linebacker spots. Blake Dees had a huge impact in the spring and solidified his starting spot during fall camp.
  • Receiver Marcus Kennard, a juco transfer, looks like he'll redshirt after not showing up on the two-deep, but Darrin Moore will grab the Z receiver spot for the Red Raiders.
OKLAHOMA STATE
  • The rumors have been officially proven correct at Oklahoma State: The Cowboys return all five starters on the offensive line, but juco transfer Michael Bowie has crashed the starting lineup at left tackle. He'll replace Nick Martinez, who'll back up Lane Taylor at right guard now. The Cowboys offensive line is the league's best, and clearly, Bowie's hyped arrival gives it a whole lot more than depth.
  • Justin Gilbert has officially usurped Devin Hedgepeth as the corner opposite Brodrick Brown. No surprise there. Gilbert's ceiling is sky high.
  • Caleb Lavey was the likely starter at the spot, but he'll officially start the year as Orie Lemon's replacement at middle linebacker, where he began spring camp.
MISSOURI
  • Justin Britt replaces Elvis Fisher at left tackle. The sophomore had been inside, but the team saw him moving outside eventually. He'll take that spot now with Fisher out for the season with a torn patellar tendon.
  • Hyped juco transfer Sheldon Richardson? Fifth on the depth chart no more. The recently cleared big man moved to No. 2 at defensive tackle behind Terrell Resonno.
  • Center Travis Ruth is out for the opener against Miami (OH). Jayson Palmgren fills his void.
  • Starting corner Kip Edwards is doubtful. Trey Hobson is listed as the starter.
  • Receiver Jerrell Jackson is also doubtful. Marcus Lucas will get the nod if Jackson can't go.
  • True freshman Corbin Berkstresser grabbed the No. 3 quarterback spot behind James Franklin and returning backup Jimmy Costello, who left the team and planned to join the Army, but re-joined after Tyler Gabbert's transfer.
IOWA STATE
  • Iowa State made it official on paper: Steele Jantz is the starting quarterback. His backfield? Crowded, but led by Shontrelle Johnson, as expected.
  • I'm not sure if it means he's playing for sure just yet, but Darius Reynolds is listed as the starter at one of the three receiver spots, despite suffering a broken toe earlier in fall camp.
  • A.J. Klein, meanwhile, has moved to middle linebacker next to weak side linebacker Jake Knott. Matt Tau'fo'ou started at middle linebacker spot last year, but after suffering a broken leg, he's backing up Klein in the middle. C.J. Morgan, a freshman, takes over at strong side. I haven't seen Morgan play, but at 207 pounds vs. Klein's 243, he'd presumably offer some more, much-needed speed at the position. Jacob Lattimer? Starting at defensive end, despite a March arrest and suspension.
Heading into the season, I see five teams in the Big 12 with a realistic chance to win the league. I'll be breaking them down in order (which won't be the same as my post-spring power rankings) of their chances to leave the season with the Big 12 title.

No. 1 on the list was the favorite: Oklahoma

No. 2 was Texas A&M.

Today, we take a look at the third-most likely Big 12 champion: Oklahoma State.

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Oklahoma State's Levy Adcock
AP Photo/Brody SchmidtLevy Adcock (73) is the anchor of the Big 12's best offensive line.
Why the Cowboys will win the Big 12

1. The offensive line. You could point to a lot of reasons for the Cowboys' success in 2011, but it all started up front on the offensive end. OSU's big men entered the season as a patchwork group, but matured into one of the Big 12's best by midseason. They should be even better in 2011 when all five return, and the group adds juco transfer Michael Bowie, who could blaze his way into a spot into the starting lineup. Levy Adcock is the Big 12's best offensive lineman, and Lane Taylor, Grant Garner, Nick Martinez and Jonathan Rush fill out a unit that could block the Cowboys into their first Big 12 title.

2. It has the best pass-catch duo in the country. The distance between Brandon Weeden and Landry Jones is paper-thin, but Justin Blackmon established himself as a cut above Ryan Broyles during the 2010 season, and earned the Biletnikoff Award for his efforts. The pair had a joint news conference to announce their return, and the ensuing celebration was warranted. If Oklahoma State wins a Big 12 title, those two are taking them there.

3. The defense's rapid improvement could continue. OSU has to replace six starters on defense, but returns three starters in a secondary that matured late last season. Look no further than dominant defensive performances against prolific passing offenses like Baylor and Arizona, who the Cowboys blew out. Both safeties, Johnny Thomas and Markelle Martin, are back and make up a unit I named the Big 12's best. Justin Gilbert may be charged with replacing Big 12 interception champ Andrew McGee across from returning starter Brodrick Brown. OSU also held a high-scoring Kansas State offense (33.6 points, third in the Big 12) to just 14 points at home in a big game without Blackmon. There's a lot of turnover, but if you can stop the pass in the Big 12, you're going to be in good position to win the league.

Why the Cowboys won't win the Big 12

1. Todd Monken is not Dana Holgorsen. Monken may be a great offensive coordinator, but for now, we have no idea. What we do know is everywhere Holgorsen has coordinated the offense has become one of the best in college football. Sure, his system is part of it, but so is the effectiveness of his in-game adjustments. Ask Texas A&M and its 21-7 halftime lead in Stillwater. Monken has learned the system, but when things go badly, how will he adjust? One could argue that was one of Holgorsen's best attributes.

2. It hasn't proven it can beat Oklahoma, and has to go to College Station. Most pundits (yours truly included) were willing to overlook history and pick the Cowboys to finally beat an Oklahoma team that hadn't yet proven it could win big games on the road. OSU was favored and playing better football than Oklahoma, whose two losses earlier in the season came to solid Big 12 contenders in night games on the road. OSU, however, allowed its losing streak to Oklahoma to reach eight years and Mike Gundy is still 0-6 against his in-state rival. Additionally, the Cowboys have to go into Kyle Field, one of the most intimidating venues in the league, to face the other Big 12 contender. That's not exactly a recipe for success.

3. The heart of the defense is gone. Markelle Martin is a good leader, but Orie Lemon was the heart of OSU's defense last season, an experienced player that had been through a lot and made it obvious to his teammates how much playing his final season meant to him. Those kinds of things are always a bit intangible, and hard to peg until the marathon of a college football season kicks off. Can the Cowboys replace his leadership?
I've done it. You've done it.

"Hey, is that guy still around?"

Even with two fewer teams, it's hard to keep track. Our next series, which we did last year, too, takes a look at two key players for every team in the league that are taking their talents elsewhere, returning to campus, or arriving to try and write a legacy of their own.

So really, this series isn't so much for the fans of the teams in the posts, but more for everyone else. It wouldn't be a bad idea to bookmark this series.

Next up: Oklahoma State

Going:

Kendall Hunter, RB

Hunter sandwiched a pair of All-American, 1,500-yard seasons around a frustrating 2009 campaign and finished fourth on the Cowboys' all-time rushing leaders. In 2010, he was a constant for the high-powered Oklahoma State offense, topping 100 yards nine times in 13 games. That's two more big nights than any other back in the Big 12. Hunter wasn't the fastest back, and at 5-foot-8, 200 pounds, he definitely wasn't the biggest, but he always seemed to grab three or four more yards when they seemed impossible. I'd like to know how many of his career yards came with three or four defenders wrapped around his waist.

Orie Lemon, LB

Lemon was robbed of being a part of one of the most hyped seasons in Oklahoma State history in 2009 when he tore his ACL days before the opener and missed the year. But he came back in 2010 as the senior leader of a defense that was part of the most overachieving teams in Big 12 history. The Cowboys won 11 games, and Lemon finished second in the Big 12 with 133 stops to finish second in the league.

Staying:

Justin Blackmon, WR

Blackmon didn't have any real profile across the country this time last year, after catching just 20 passes as a freshman. In his debut against Washington State, he caught three touchdowns, but still hardly registered. Until he kept catching touchdowns. Lots of them. Twenty, to be exact, and more than any receiver in college football. His 1,782 receiving yards were the most of any receiver in the nation, and he was rewarded with the Biletnikoff Award for his efforts as the nation's top receiver. He passed up a chance to be a possible first-round pick and come back to BCS-minded Oklahoma State and extend his record streak of 12 games with at least 100 receiving yards and a touchdown.

Brandon Weeden, QB

The only thing most people knew about Weeden this time last year was his age, 26, and that he used to play baseball. He's 27 now, but most folks figured out pretty quick that he's a heck of a quarterback. A solid set of receivers and a great offensive line helped him throw for 4,277 yards and 34 scores, the second-most yards in the Big 12. His big arm and 6-foot-4, 224-pound frame make him an ideal quarterback on paper, but his decision-making and accuracy helped him carry it onto the field in his first year as a starting quarterback since 2o01.

Coming:

Michael Bowie, OL

A junior college transfer, Bowie crashed the party this spring and figures to become a possible factor on the Cowboys' offensive line in 2011. Oklahoma State returns all five starters, but at the very least, the 6-foot-5, 320-pounder gives them more depth on the line. At the most, it gives them a new starter, most likely at right tackle opposite Levy Adcock, who I pegged as the Big 12's best returning offensive lineman.

David Glidden, WR

Texas Tech has seen players like Glidden before, and Oklahoma State may get used to him this year. Depth at receiver is necessary for the Air Raid, and Glidden, a shifty, 5-foot-8, 160-pounder may provide some in his first year on campus. He played in a similar system in high school in Mustang (Okla.).

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Oklahoma State spring wrap

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OKLAHOMA STATE

2010 overall record: 11-2

2010 conference record: 6-2

Returning starters: Offense (9), Defense (5) P/K (1)

Top returners: WR Justin Blackmon, QB Brandon Weeden, S Markelle Martin, LB Shaun Lewis, OL Levy Adcock, WR Josh Cooper

Key losses: RB Kendall Hunter, OC Dana Holgorsen, LB Orie Lemon, DE Ugo Chinasa, CB Andrew McGee, DT Shane Jarka, LB Justin Gent

2010 statistical leaders (*returners)

Rushing: Kendall Hunter (1,548 yards)

Passing: Brandon Weeden* (4,277 yards)

Receiving: Justin Blackmon* (1,782 yards)

Tackles: Orie Lemon (133)

Sacks: Jamie Blatnick (5.5)

Interceptions: Andrew McGee (5)

Three spring answers

1. Offensive vision is clear. Oklahoma State had one of the nation’s best offenses a year ago, and returned nine starters from it. Former coordinator Dana Holgorsen said goodbye, but rather than have 50 players learn a new offense that everyone in the program wanted to stay, coach Mike Gundy brought in Todd Monken to learn the system and call plays. The Cowboys offense should look very similar next year.

2. More depth on the offensive line. The line brings back all five starters this year, but that doesn’t mean all five will start. Juco transfer Michael Bowie crashed the party this spring and is competing for a starting spot, which may mean some shuffling come fall.

3. Budding star at cornerback. Andrew McGee led the Big 12 with five picks last year, but the Pokes may have another great one on their hands very soon. Justin Gilbert contributed most as a kick returner his freshman season, but he drew rave reviews throughout the spring. He gets plenty of work trying to cover the best receiver in college football, Justin Blackmon. We’ll see if that pays off soon.

Three fall questions

1. Can that offensive vision become reality? Oklahoma State knows what it wants to do on offense, but Holgorsen won’t be in the booth running the show. Can talent, which there’s no question OSU has plenty of, outweigh inexperience in playcalling? And how will Monken look as a playcaller? It’s the big variable for the Cowboys this year, and if the offense struggles, blame is likely headed his way. We’ll find out the answers to those questions pretty quick this fall.

2. Can last year’s defensive progress continue? The raw numbers for Oklahoma State’s defense weren’t pretty, but those were over a lot of possessions, thanks to the big-time offense. The defense made big strides in every way late last season, but without two of its leaders, linebacker Orie Lemon and defensive end Ugo Chinasa, will it continue? More responsibility will fall on safety Markelle Martin and linebacker Shaun Lewis.

3. Who are the linebackers? Lewis has locked down the “Star” linebacker position, but the other two spots are up for grabs this fall after Lemon and fellow linebacker Justin Gent moved on. Caleb Lavey and Tyler Johnson are still competing to replace Lemon, and three players are competing to replace Gent as weakside linebacker.
It's a different year this time around. Most of the guys on this list would already be signed to a team -- albeit with brief contracts -- and ready to work toward a future in the NFL.

But this year, if you're not already aware, NFL teams had to turn out the lights after the draft reached its completion on Saturday evening. Players drafted can't have contact with their new teams, and teams aren't allowed to make offseason moves.

That means no signing of undrafted rookies, creating uncertain futures for these guys. Undrafted guys have plenty of value -- for example, last year's leading rusher among rookies, LeGarrette Blount of Oregon, went undrafted -- and here are a few guys looking for their shot in the future once the lockout ends. (It'll end eventually, right?)

Here are the Big 12 players that were productive in college and would be in camps, but thanks to the lockout, now have their futures on hold.

Tim Barnes, C, Missouri

Barnes was the first-team All-Big 12 center in 2010, but extended a streak of four consecutive Missouri centers to earn that honor and go undrafted. Barnes had more athleticism than his predecessors, but it wasn't enough to get drafted. You won't find a much more knowledgeable center, but a lot of that knowledge might not transfer well to the next level.

Kevin Rutland, CB, Missouri

Rutland was one of the Tigers' team captains last season, but his overall position skills weren't on the level of the cornerbacks drafted ahead of him.

David Sims, S, Iowa State

Sims has great speed at 204 pounds, but his 5-foot-9 frame isn't ideal for a safety. His past didn't help him, either. He enrolled at Oklahoma originally, but didn't qualify and went to junior college. After winning Big 12 Newcomer of the Year in 2009, he was suspended for the season opener in 2010 and stripped of team captain status after racking up charges on a Des Moines woman's debit card.

Orie Lemon, LB, Oklahoma State

Lemon was what you'd want in a linebacker mentally and physically when he was healthy, but his torn ACL last season hurt his draft stock. He's a big hitter, too, but at 242 pounds, NFL teams didn't love his speed.

Dan Bailey, K, Oklahoma State

Simply put, kickers don't get drafted too often. Bailey, who won the Lou Groza Award last season as the nation's best kicker, should get his shot at some point.

Colby Whitlock, DT, Texas Tech

Whitlock has great size at more than 300 pounds, but his lack of speed concerned NFL teams, who also weren't in love with his pass-rushing ability or overall athletic ability. I've been a fan of Whitlock's technique during his time in Lubbock, but measurables are more apt to get you selected.

Jerrod Johnson, QB, Texas A&M

Not a snub, per se, as it was pretty obvious that Johnson struggled in the events leading up to the draft, especially at the Senior Bowl. But Johnson likely would find a shot somewhere, and it's still shocking to see a player with Johnson's resume go undrafted. Coach Mike Sherman knows the kind of football mind Johnson has, though, and can sell his NFL connections on it. There's no question he'll end up in a camp once the option is available.

Author's note: This is post No. 7,000 on the Big 12 blog. Thanks to all of you who helped make the first 6,999 happen.
Thanks for all the questions, all. Enjoy the rest of the draft this weekend.

Jared in College Station, Texas asks: What do you make of Texas A&M's "Senior QB Curse?" Reggie McNeil, Stephen McGee, and Jerrod Johnson were all ineffective and benched their senior season. Very odd, no? How can Ryan Tannehill escape the same fate?

David Ubben: Well, I have problems buying into any curse, of course. The bottom line about McNeal and McGee is neither one was as good as Jerrod Johnson or Ryan Tannehill. Johnson, at his best, was better than Tannehill, but the shoulder injury was such a rough deal last season.

This week, coach Mike Sherman opined that Johnson tried too hard to make up for lost time in the spring and worked too hard during the summer. Whatever the cause, it was a shame. Johnson was a guy who did everything right, and despite that, it wasn't meant to pay off for him. That said, it's in the past.

Tannehill didn't take a ton of big hits last season, and with Texas A&M's solid offensive line featuring sophomore bookends loaded with potential, he doesn't figure to take many more in 2011. In the event he does run, though? I'm sure Sherman will be in his ear to make sure he gets down or out of bounds.

Curse or otherwise, you still have to take care of your passer. Last season, the Aggies had a pretty good backup plan for Johnson. This season, they don't. Being extra careful is the prudent approach.

Jamiell Showers and/or Matt Joeckel aren't winning Texas A&M a Big 12 title next season.


Brett in Kansas City asks: Hey David, is there any chance that Bob Stoops, or any other Big 12 coaches for that matter, will be looking at homes in Columbus, Ohio anytime soon?

DU: No, I don't buy that. Urban Meyer is obviously at the top of the list if Jim Tressel leaves, but if Stoops turned down Florida (twice), I'd be surprised if he left for Ohio State. There's some appeal in going "home," yes, but Stoops said himself this spring that Oklahoma is as much his home as anywhere these days. He's got three school-aged kids who have lived in Oklahoma since 1999. That's 12 years.

Besides that, how often do you see a coach of a major program leave to become coach at another major program? It's very, very rare.

I generally think Meyer will eventually end up at Ohio State, but if anything, Bo Pelini is much more likely to leave than Stoops, following a short tenure at Nebraska. I wouldn't bet on it, but Pelini is pretty high on the prospective list.


Michael in Long Beach, Calif. asks: David, if Jamell Fleming enrolls for the fall semester is he good to go, or does he face academic or other types of suspensions? Would he be eligible academically? Thanks.

DU: He should be good to go, as I understand it. It sounds like his status is in limbo, and ultimately, he's the only guy who can decide if he'll be back or not. He'll have to work to show it, though. He could miss out on something special at Oklahoma next year if he's not on the team. You'd think that alone would be enough motivation.


Frederico in Paris asks: David,Who would you pick as the big 12 teams you're most likely to be over-rating and under-rating for the 2011 season at this point in time?

DU: Interesting question. Overrating? We'll see about Oklahoma State. The defense got a lot better toward the end of last season, but will that continue into next season, especially without one of its leaders, Orie Lemon?

And then there's the whole playcalling deal, replacing one of college football's best, Dana Holgorsen, with an inexperienced Todd Monken.

Between the trio of teams at the top of the league, I'd say they're the most likely to have a disappointing season. Not saying it'll happen, but Texas A&M and Oklahoma have a lot fewer questions.

Underrating? Probably the same three teams I pegged as sleepers awhile back. Texas, Missouri and Kansas State. All have big question marks, but perhaps even bigger potential.


Barack Obama in Washington, D.C. asks: I'm sure Tuberville's going on Hannity and bashing me plays well with the fans in west Texas but seems like a fairly stupid move overall. Tubs stated that as coach he represents all of Tech's players but I doubt if many of his African American players feel like those comments represent them. Do you think this could impact recruiting for Tech?

DU: Whoa, whoa, whoa. Let's strip this letter of all the fighting words. I'd expect a president to be more diplomatic, no? First off, I'd hardly call what Tuberville said about Obama "bashing." Questioning? Sure. As it ends up, he was wrong, but again, Tuberville is little more than a victim of poor timing when it comes to Obama and his birth certificate. No one would bat an eye at this if Tuberville hadn't gone on the air and commented the night before Obama released the document.

Secondly, painting with a broad brush there a little bit, right? His black players wouldn't feel like those comments represent them? Since when are all of his white players backing the Republicans and all his black players backing the Democrats? Slow your role, Mr. President.

And most importantly, since when does that matter? It doesn't. If you're a player, there's no reason to be overly concerned with your coach's political views. When he says he represents all his players, I'd hardly say that crosses over to political views. I'm surprised this story became an issue, considering how little it has to do with anything.


Brady Kirk in Norman, OK asks: Hey, Dubbs. I've been thinking lately about how the upcoming Sooner offense compares to its counterpart of 2008. First of all, how much of a difference do you see between their offensive lines; second, do you think this year's receiver corps is at the same level as that team's offensive line; and third, how close do you think this offense can come to that one overall?

DU: There's a big difference in the offensive lines. Oklahoma's should be good next season, but the one in 2008 had four NFL players on it. This season's probably has two. The receivers this season are better, but a great receiving corps doesn't mean dominance in the same way that an offensive line does. The Sooners did anything they wanted that season (until they played Florida) and scored more points than any offense in the history of college football.

This year's offense should be great, but I'd be shocked if it came anywhere close to that team.


Tommy B in Stillwater, OK asks: What are the chances OSU is able to get Justin Bieber to Bedlam?

DU: Who knows just yet, but I'd like to see OSU do everything it can to get Bieber to Stillwater.


David Paschall in Austin, Texas asks: I loved watching Texas' Blaine Irby play before his injury in 2008. It seems like he has a ton of potential at TE. Will we finally get to see him play again this year? He suited up for the Orange and White game, but I don't remember seeing him take the field and virtually no one has mentioned him. Will 2011 see his return?

DU: He was out there this spring, but the team took it easy and held him out of the spring game. He's not back to full strength, but he sounds like he'll be back on the field in at least some capacity next season.
We took a look at the offensive draft boards on Wednesday, and on the day of the draft we'll turn to the defense.

Analyst Todd McShay broke down the skill sets of each draftable player on the board and ranked them by those skill sets, divided up by position.

Here's what he had to say.

Defensive line
  • Missouri's Aldon Smith was No. 3 on his versatility list, ranking defensive ends by their athleticism and ability to change direction and play in space.
  • Baylor's Phil Taylor ranks No. 3 among defensive tackles as run-stoppers.
  • Smith is No. 7 among overall defensive line prospects.
  • Taylor is No. 11 overall at the position.
  • Texas' Sam Acho is the No. 24 defensive line prospect.
  • Oklahoma's Jeremy Beal is No. 25 on the list.
  • Oklahoma State's Ugo Chinasa is No. 44.
Linebackers
  • Oklahoma State's Orie Lemon is No. 3 on the strength/toughness list among inside linebackers.
  • Texas A&M's Von Miller is No. 2 among outside linebackers in range against the run.
  • Miller is the No. 1 surest tackler among outside linebackers.
  • Miller is the No. 1 overall linebacker prospect.
  • Lemon is the No. 22 linebacker prospect.
Defensive backs
You can size up Big 12 defenses any way you want, but here's how the Big 12 ranks in terms of experienced tacklers coming back in 2011.

1. Kansas State: The Wildcats bring back all five of their top tacklers, led by senior cornerback David Garrett, who made 92 tackles last year. Cornerback Terrance Sweeney is the only loss for the defense, which struggled last year, but will return eight of its top nine tacklers.

2. Texas: Five of the Longhorns six top tacklers return, led by a pair of linebackers among the best in the Big 12. Keenan Robinson and Emmanuel Acho combined for 187 tackles last year and should be the leaders of a Longhorns defense that lost defensive lineman Sam Acho, who turned in an All-American-caliber season as a senior in 2010. Blake Gideon, Kenny Vaccaro and Christian Scott give the Longhorns good experience at safety, too.

3. Iowa State: Linebacker Jake Knott is the Big 12's leading returning tackler after making 131 stops a year ago. The Cyclones return four of their top five tacklers, including junior linebacker A.J. Klein, who made 111 tackles of his own. Middle linebacker Matt Tau'fo'ou missed the second half of the season with a broken leg, but he'll be back on the field this year. Safety David Sims will be tough to replace.

4. Texas A&M: The Aggies return eight of 11 starters on defense, but two of the three losses (linebackers Michael Hodges and Von Miller) were among the top four tacklers. The other two starting linebackers, Garrick Willams and Sean Porter, will be counted on as more experienced backers this year.

5. Missouri: The Tigers lose two of their top three tacklers, but speedy linebacker Zaviar Gooden, who tied Andrew Gachkar for the team lead with 84 tackles, is back for a Missouri defense that should be one of the Big 12's best next year. Experienced safety Kenji Jackson, a senior who will enter his fourth year on the field as a major contributor, should be one of the team's leaders next year.

6. Oklahoma State: The Cowboys lose two of their three top tacklers, but bring back a pair of solid safeties in Markelle Martin and Johnny Thomas. Leading tackler Orie Lemon made 133 stops last year, and replacing his leadership might be harder than replacing his production on the field. Sophomore Shaun Lewis is the Big 12's reigning co-Defensive Freshman of the Year and looks poised for a huge encore at the Cowboys' "star" linebacker spot.

7. Oklahoma: Three of Oklahoma's top five tacklers, including both starting safeties, are gone. It could have been worse, but linebacker Travis Lewis decided to stick around for his senior season and chase a national title. All-Big 12 corner Jamell Fleming was fourth on the team in tackles, and currently isn't enrolled. Coach Bob Stoops has been cryptic about Fleming's status in the future, and it's hard to tell if he'll be back or not after a reported academic misconduct incident.

8. Texas Tech: Injuries forced that Red Raiders to play a lot of young talent too early last year, but three of their top six tacklers won't be back in 2011. Linebackers Bront Bird (106 tackles) and Brian Duncan are the most notable absences, along with defensive tackle Colby Whitlock. Sam Fehoko and Blake Dees should anchor the middle of the defense this year, and the secondary has lots of quality young talent returning. Cody Davis, Tre Porter, D.J. Johnson and Jarvis Phillips are all back.

9. Kansas: Steven Johnson, the team's leading tackler last season, returns after making 95 stops last year, but Kansas loses all four of its next top tacklers. That includes linebacker Justin Springer, but my guess? Huldon Tharp, who missed all of last season with a foot injury, will lead the Jayhawks in stops this year.

10. Baylor: The Bears take the biggest hit in the Big 12 when it comes to returning tacklers. The team's top five in stops last season were all seniors. Six of the top seven are gone, and senior linebacker Elliot Coffey is the leading returner. He made 61 tackles last year, and missed three games with a sprained ankle.
What happened:

  • Brandon Weeden completed 20-of-37 passes for 240 yards and three touchdowns for the Orange team.
  • Justin Blackmon led all receivers with eight catches, finishing with 87 yards and a touchdown.
  • Linebacker Caleb Lavey, likely to replace Orie Lemon at linebacker, led all tacklers with eight stops.
  • Zack Craig, suiting up for the White team, had two interceptions, three pass breakups and made seven tackles.
  • Oklahoma State played one of the most standardized spring games, splitting into two teams and playing a regularly scored football game. The White team erased a 28-7 first-quarter deficit and won 49-46.
  • An estimated crowd of 16,000 showed up.
What we learned:
  • For a program looking to retain the type of offense it racked up last season, Saturday had to be encouraging. Fans and coaches alike had to smile when they saw the 38-35 halftime score. It slowed down in the second half, but the Cowboys' playmakers on both sides of the ball did what they do best.
  • We've heard Oklahoma State tout Hubert Anyiam's return this spring, but Tracy Moore and Josh Cooper had huge days with a combined nine catches for 247 yards and two scores. Anyiam would add some nice depth to the Cowboys' receiving corps, but it's clear they're still not seeing much dropoff.
  • Get to know the names Justin Gilbert and Shaun Lewis if you haven't already. Oklahoma State fans have, but the sophomore defensive duo made big plays to cap off productive springs. Lewis recovered a fumble and returned it 51 yards for a score, and Gilbert returned the second half kickoff for a 97-yard score. Lewis is already a star, but Gilbert could become one next season at cornerback for the Cowboys, as well as continuing his stellar job returning kicks.
  • Weeden is obviously locked in at starter, but Clint Chelf looks like he's taken control of the No. 2 spot and is the likely heir after next season. He'll get more spot duty next season, but on Saturday he completed 20-of-31 passes for 260 yards and a pair of scores.
  • Great, great, great to see Kye Staley back on the field. He suffered a horrific knee injury in 2009 and quit the team before returning in the spring. He finally got back into action and led all rushers with 55 yards on 11 carries. He might not get many touches next season in a muddled group behind Jeremy Smith and Joseph Randle, but just getting back to this point is an accomplishment.
They said it:

"The offense looks very similar to what you saw last year. For those of you that just saw it today, I don’t know that you’d see any difference." -- Mike Gundy.

More Big 12 spring game recaps:
Scouts Inc. has put together a comprehensive draft board of each position, and as you've seen this offseason, plenty of former Big 12ers should hear their names called next month.

Here's a rough estimate of where each offensive prospect from the league is set to be drafted.

First round:
Second round:
Third round:
Fourth round:
Fifth round:
Sixth round:
Seventh round:

Want to see the full boards? Here's the offense and the defense.

Cowboys, Aggies host pro days

March, 10, 2011
3/10/11
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Von Miller "officially" ran a 4.53 40-yard dash at the NFL scouting combine last month, despite clocking a 4.46 in his first run that would have been the best mark among linebackers.

Miller got another chance on Wednesday at Texas A&M's pro day, and officially clocked a 4.50 40-time that would have been just .01 behind Martez Wilson's 4.49 time as the best among linebackers.

At the combine he solidified his status as a sure top-10 pick, and he was impressive again on Wednesday.

"Is there anything else anyone wants?" Miller said while smiling, according to a release. "I’m ready to keep going. Whatever they want, I’m ready to do it."

Miller improved his time in the 40-yard dash, the three-cone drill and the 20-yard shuttle. Texas A&M has the full results from pro day on its site.

Texas A&M quarterback Jerrod Johnson also showcased his throwing arm, which scouts haven't seen much of since Johnson was benched midway through the season after being unable to fully recover from offseason shoulder surgery.

"I’m ready to go. I’m about healed," Johnson said. "I’m ready to get back on a team, so I’m looking for somebody to give me the opportunity and I’ll make the most of it. I say I’m about 95 percent healed (from shoulder surgery). I’m about ready to go. I still need some strengthening, but I’m fine.

Representatives from 14 NFL teams were on hand in College Station.

Representatives from 22 teams were in Stillwater to see Oklahoma State, where a pair of defensive linemen stole the show.

Defensive end Ugo Chinasa ran 40-yard dash times of 4.78 and 4.76, which would have ranked ninth among defense ends at the combine. Defensive tackle Shane Jarka bench pressed 225 pounds 34 times, which would have ranked fourth at the combine.

Linebacker Orie Lemon also improved his 40-time from 4.99 at the combine to 4.76 on Wednesday. He still would have been outside the top 15 with the 4.76 time, but it helped show scouts he's not nearly as sluggish as he looked in Indianapolis. He had 133 tackles in 2010, second-most in the Big 12.
Schedule: Practice opens today, and continues through the spring game on April 16. All 14 practices between now and then are closed to fans and media.

What’s new: The guy calling the plays, but the Cowboys hope the offense isn't. Todd Monken is back in Stillwater for a second term after serving as receivers coach and passing game coordinator under Les Miles. He says he plans on keeping the same system as departed coordinator Dana Holgorsen, and is getting a lesson on the intricacies from his quarterback, Brandon Weeden.

On the move: Punter Quinn Sharp missed the Alamo Bowl, but his duties may be fairly comprehensive after this spring. He already handles punts and kickoffs, and he'll be battling for the starting placekicker job this spring, too.

Key battle: Oklahoma State returns all five starters from last year's offensive line, but that doesn't mean the same five guys will start the season. Early-enrolling juco transfer Michael Bowie is listed as co-No. 2 at right tackle in the pre-spring depth chart and could make a play for a starting job this spring.

New faces: Freshman quarterback J.W. Walsh enrolled early and should take part in a three-way battle for the No. 2 spot behind All-Big 12 quarterback Brandon Weeden with fellow passers Clint Chelf, last year's backup, and Johnny Deaton.

Breaking out: Running back Joseph Randle was a great compliment to Kendall Hunter last season, but enters the spring before his sophomore year as the starter ahead of the bulkier Jeremy Smith. Randle caught 37 passes last year, second-most among running backs in the Big 12 behind only Oklahoma's DeMarco Murray. He'll see a big boost in his carries this time around. He had just 81 last year.

Question marks: Oklahoma State lost both defensive tackles, Shane Jarka and Chris Donaldson from last year's team, and Nigel Nicholas and Christian Littlehead, among others, will try and fill their voids. Dominant interior defensive line play isn't necessary to win in the Big 12, but teams that have it can be great on a national scale.

Big shoes to fill: Linebacker Caleb Lavey. He enters the spring as the starter at middle linebacker, and is in line to replace Orie Lemon, one of the defense's leaders in 2010 and the Big 12's No. 2 tackler with 133 stops. Lavey was one of the jewels of the Cowboys' 2010 recruiting class, and as a sophomore, it's time for him to make good on that potential.

Don’t forget about: Receiver Hubert Anyiam. He led the team in receptions after Dez Bryant was suspended for the final nine games of 2009, but battled an ankle injury throughout 2010 while teammate Justin Blackmon raced to a Biletnikoff Award-winning season. If he can stay healthy, he could develop as an underrated, but very valuable compliment to Blackmon as a senior.

All eyes on: Quarterback Brandon Weeden. He came out of nowhere last season to become Oklahoma State's first all-conference quarterback since 1932. The 27-year-old went eight years between starts, but looked like he didn't miss a beat from the start. He'll have to try and build off last year with a new coordinator, and him doing so will be necessary for the Cowboys to capture the Big 12 title that narrowly eluded them in 2010.
The NFL scouting combine concludes today, but the defensive line and linebackers took their turns under the microscope on Monday. Here's a look at how the linebackers did. We looked at the defensive linemen this morning.

Position ranking in parentheses when available.

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Von Miller
AP Photo/Michael ConroyTexas A&M linebacker Von Miller had a superb showing at the NFL scouting combine.
Von Miller, Texas A&M
  • 40-yard dash: 4.53/4.46 (2/1) (We'll come back to this later.)
  • Vertical jump: 37 inches (3)
  • Broad jump: 10-6 (1)
  • Three-cone drill: 6.7 seconds (1)
  • 20-yard shuttle: 4.06 seconds (3)
  • 60-yard shuttle: 11.15 seconds (1)
  • 225-pound bench press: 20 reps
Orie Lemon, Oklahoma State
  • 225-pound bench press: 27 reps (5)
  • 40-yard dash: 4.99 seconds

Wondering why you saw Miller's face on about every football website you could find yesterday?

Well, here you go. News of Miller's freakish athletic ability isn't news to any fans of Texas A&M or fans of teams who faced the Aggies, but when you see it all etched in concrete like this? Well, it's a little jarring.

"Watching more tape on him, he’s going to be a fun guy to coach," Aggies defensive coordinator Tim DeRuyter told me last spring.

He'd had the job less then two months back then, and he knew what he had. The point is, it doesn't take long to figure it out.

"Through the first few mornings of our workouts, he’s a guy that can really stand out in a crowd," DeRuyter said. "He’s a 6-4, 240-pound man that moves around like he’s 5-10 and 180. And having that explosion and burst really gives you a chance to say, ‘How can we get this guy isolated?’ Just seeing that athleticism just whets your appetite for that, thinking about the possibility."

Considering Miller's numbers on Monday, that sounds about accurate, no? He clocked a 4.46 40-time in his first run. That's defensive back speed. Miller, however, is going to be hunting down quarterbacks on the edge in the NFL.

Best yet, Miller showed this year that he can be a complete player, often dropping into coverage, perhaps at the peril of his sack total (still the Big 12's best) but at the benefit of his NFL stock. With his performance on Monday, Miller might have moved into the top 5.

There's no doubts about his athleticism. That's clear. He did his best to answer those questions about his ability to be more than just a pass rusher with the last year in DeRuyter's 3-4 scheme. Miller's ability to drop his shoulder and gain leverage on most tackles with a low center of gravity will pay off, but it's obvious with his shuttle times and 40-time that he's not going to have problems accounting for quite a bit of square footage in coverage.

His stock is skyrocketing, and it's not difficult to see why.

The NFL combine is dangerously close

February, 23, 2011
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The NFL Scouting Combine kicks off Wednesday, and when it concludes next week, draft boards from media and NFL teams alike could look very different.

Physical tests won't begin until Thursday, but the first round of players will arrive Wednesday and take part in various preparatory tests before the real sizing up begins.

A week from now, stocks will be up. Others will be down.

Here are the players from the Big 12 slated to take part, in case you missed it the first time around:

Oklahoma State -- 5
  • Dan Bailey, K
  • Ugo Chinasa, DE
  • Kendall Hunter, RB
  • Orie Lemon, LB
  • Andrew McGee, CB
Texas -- 5
  • Sam Acho, DE
  • Chykie Brown, CB
  • Curtis Brown, CB
  • Kyle Hix, OL
  • Aaron Williams, CB
Oklahoma -- 4 Missouri -- 3 Baylor -- 2
  • Phil Taylor, DT
  • Danny Watkins, OT
Texas A&M -- 2 Iowa State -- 1
  • David Sims, S
Kansas State -- 1 Texas Tech -- 1
  • Colby Whitlock, DT
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