Big 12: Terrance Williams
College football guru Phil Steele is previewing his must-read offseason magazine, and with it, he's releasing his all-conference and All-America teams.
Here's who he slated as his first-team All-Big 12 squad:
OFFENSE
QB: Landry Jones, Oklahoma
RB: Joseph Randle, Oklahoma State
RB: Malcolm Brown, Texas
WR: Tavon Austin, West Virginia
WR: Kenny Stills, Oklahoma
WR: Stedman Bailey, West Virginia
TE: Jordan Najvar, Baylor
C: Ben Habern, Oklahoma
OL: Lane Taylor, Oklahoma State
OL: Gabe Ikard, Oklahoma
OL: LaAdrian Waddle, Texas Tech
OL: Cyril Richardson, Baylor
DL: Alex Okafor, Texas
DL: Stansly Maponga, TCU
DL: Jackson Jeffcoat, Texas
DL: Jamarkus McFarland, Oklahoma
LB: Jake Knott, Iowa State
LB: Tom Wort, Oklahoma
LB: A.J. Klein, Iowa State
LB: Arthur Brown, Kansas State
CB: Nigel Malone, Kansas State
CB: Brodrick Brown, Oklahoma State
S: Kenny Vaccaro, Texas
S: Tony Jefferson, Oklahoma
SPECIALISTS
P: Quinn Sharp, Oklahoma State
K: Quinn Sharp, Oklahoma State
PR: Tavon Austin, West Virginia
KR: Tyler Lockett, Kansas State
Here's who Steele tabbed as All-Americans, too.
FIRST TEAM
Here's who he slated as his first-team All-Big 12 squad:
OFFENSE
QB: Landry Jones, Oklahoma
RB: Joseph Randle, Oklahoma State
RB: Malcolm Brown, Texas
WR: Tavon Austin, West Virginia
WR: Kenny Stills, Oklahoma
WR: Stedman Bailey, West Virginia
TE: Jordan Najvar, Baylor
C: Ben Habern, Oklahoma
OL: Lane Taylor, Oklahoma State
OL: Gabe Ikard, Oklahoma
OL: LaAdrian Waddle, Texas Tech
OL: Cyril Richardson, Baylor
- I'd probably go with Geno Smith ahead of Jones, but it's close. You could definitely make a compelling case for both.
- I'd also lean more toward Terrance Williams at Baylor for that third receiver spot ahead of Stills. Stills' upside is still really high, but again, it's close between those two.
- Good grief, the tight end spot in the Big 12 is a rough. Navjar is a good selection. Travis Tannahill at Kansas State could grab that spot, too. You're almost better off picking a sixth offensive lineman or a fullback like Trey Millard at Oklahoma, who's more valuable than any of the league's tight ends.
DL: Alex Okafor, Texas
DL: Stansly Maponga, TCU
DL: Jackson Jeffcoat, Texas
DL: Jamarkus McFarland, Oklahoma
LB: Jake Knott, Iowa State
LB: Tom Wort, Oklahoma
LB: A.J. Klein, Iowa State
LB: Arthur Brown, Kansas State
CB: Nigel Malone, Kansas State
CB: Brodrick Brown, Oklahoma State
S: Kenny Vaccaro, Texas
S: Tony Jefferson, Oklahoma
SPECIALISTS
P: Quinn Sharp, Oklahoma State
K: Quinn Sharp, Oklahoma State
PR: Tavon Austin, West Virginia
KR: Tyler Lockett, Kansas State
- No complaints among the specialists, but I'd definitely have kept a more traditional three linebackers. You could afford to leave Tom Wort off that list. Not so with the other three.
- After a sad group of cornerbacks in 2011, the position looks pretty loaded this year. There's no fewer than five guys in my book who deserve strong consideration and probably a spot on the first team. It's too bad there are only two spots. Clearly, Malone and Brown are deserving, but so are Justin Gilbert, Carrington Byndom and Quandre Diggs.
- Safeties are both loaded. Maybe two of the best defenders in the league.
Here's who Steele tabbed as All-Americans, too.
FIRST TEAM
- Alex Okafor, DE, Texas
- Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma
- Tavon Austin, WR, West Virginia
- Arthur Brown, LB, Kansas State
- Quinn Sharp, K, Oklahoma State
- Kenny Stills, WR, Oklahoma
- Stedman Bailey, WR, West Virginia
- Lane Taylor, OL, Oklahoma State
- Quinn Sharp, P, Oklahoma State
- Tyler Lockett, KR, Kansas State
- Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia
- Joseph Randle, RB, Oklahoma State
- Terrance Williams, WR, Baylor
- Gabe Ikard, OL, Oklahoma
- Jackson Jeffcoat, DE, Texas
- A.J. Klein, LB, Iowa State
- Tony Jefferson, S, Oklahoma
- Tavon Austin, KR, West Virginia
NFL draft expert Mel Kiper Jr. broke down his top-five prospects at each position among juniors and seniors entering the 2013 draft.
You'll need ESPN Insider to see both (here are the juniors
) (and here are the seniors
), but here's a taste of what you can find among the seniors.
Quarterbacks
You'll need ESPN Insider to see both (here are the juniors
Quarterbacks
- No. 3: Landry Jones, Oklahoma
- No. 5: Geno Smith, West Virginia
- No. 1: Braden Wilson, Kansas State
- No. 2: Terrance Williams, Baylor
- No. 4: Tavon Austin, West Virginia
- No. 5: Tanner Hawkinson, Kansas
- No. 5: Ben Habern, Oklahoma
- No. 3: Arthur Brown, Kansas State
- No. 5: Demontre Hurst, Oklahoma
- No. 2: Quinn Sharp, Oklahoma State
2011 overall record: 10-3
2011 conference record: 6-3
Returning starters: Offense (6), Defense (8), P/K (2)
Top returners: WR Terrance Williams, WR Tevin Reese, S Ahmad Dixon, S Sam Holl, CB K.J. Morton, S Mike Hicks, OL Cyril Richardson, OL Ivory Wade
Key losses: QB Robert Griffin III, WR Kendall Wright, RB Terrance Ganaway, OL Philip Blake, LB Elliot Coffey, DT Nicolas Jean-Baptiste, DL Tracy Robertson
2011 statistical leaders (*returners)
Rushing: Terrance Ganaway (1,547 yards)
Passing: Robert Griffin III (4,293 yards)
Receiving: Kendall Wright (1,663 yards)
Tackles: Elliot Coffey (114)
Sacks: Tracy Robertson (4.5)
Interceptions: K.J. Morton* (4)
Spring answers
1. Don't sweat the quarterbacks: Anybody who thinks Baylor's destined to go back to 3-4 win seasons in the post-RG3 era isn't paying much attention. Nick Florence had a rough time as a true freshman filling in for RG3 in 2009, but he's grown up a whole lot since then, and he'll get a chance to show it this fall. Behind him, Bryce Petty is itching for a chance, too, but Florence's leadership and decision-making assured him the job in the spring.
2. The receivers are ready to roll: And what about Kendall Wright's absence? He led Baylor in receiving for each of the past four seasons, but Baylor's going to be just fine in his wake, too. Terrance Williams is a future NFL draft pick, and Tevin Reese is ready to see an increased role in the offense, too. Lanear Sampson offers more depth and playmaking ability at the position.
3. Lache Seastrunk is a lot more than just hype: The Temple, Texas, native couldn't quite catch on at Oregon, but he's proving he'll be a factor at Baylor at some point, if not immediately. The backfield is still crowded, but he exploded for 138 yards and a touchdown on seven carries. He's the fastest of the Baylor backs, but he's got to prove he can be the most productive too.
Fall questions
1. How much better can the defense get? Baylor doesn't have the RG3 Express to fall back on anymore. He helped make the Bears the first team to ever win four consecutive games in a single season while also giving up at least 30 points. BU won games in 2011 while giving up 56, 48 and 42 points, too. Phil Bennett's defense has the athletes, but it's got to force more turnovers like it did the second half of the season and get those point totals down. Florence is good, but he's no RG3. If the defense doesn't improve, making a bowl will prove difficult.
2. Can Baylor truly carry on without Robert Griffin III? Baylor has all the pieces in place to get back to a bowl game, but RG3 had plenty of truly intangible attributes that are hard to duplicate. He was a compelling leader who always seemed to make everyone around him better. Florence sounds like he has many of those same things, but will they translate into wins? You never quite know for sure. RG3 was a truly transcendent player unlike anything Waco had ever seen.
3. Will the Bears have a featured running back? Seastrunk made lots of noise in the spring game, but Jarred Salubi and Glasco Martin have a lot more experience, and that could pay off in playing time when it comes to things like pass blocking and doing the little things right. Jay Finley and Terrance Ganaway grabbed starring roles the past two seasons, but will coach Art Briles use a committee come fall? Or will he find a back to lean on?
Thanks for all your questions in today's chat. It was a fun one. Here's the link to the full transcript.
Have more to say? Reach me here.
Time for a few highlights.
Daniel (Dodge City): What do you think of K-State this year? Is 8 or 9 wins just right or too much for them?
David Ubben: If I had to guess, I'd say nine wins, but I do that with a lot of reservation. I'm not quite sure what to think. I'm certainly skeptical of their ability to duplicate last year's results, but I'm also very leery of doubting a Bill Snyder team that brings back as much talent as this 2012 squad does. Not sure I have a great feel for the Cats this year.
Nick (Ames): Do you think AJ Klein and Jake Knott will translate to good NFL linebackers? How much harder is it to get recognized by nfl scouts at a school like Iowa State compared to a tradionally power football school like Texas?
David Ubben: These days, exposure isn't much of a problem. The only thing I question from those two is their speed and coverage ability. They're both sure tacklers and tough as nails. But is their athleticism up to par? I haven't talked to many scouts about them, but I'd like to get a sense of how NFL teams see them. Something for the future, I think.
Chris (Houston): What games does Texas lose this year? Why does Texas lose those games?
David Ubben: Oklahoma. West Virginia. Kansas State. Not enough offense in the first two. Kansas State's spell over the Longhorns in the third.
chris sunny south alabama [via mobile]: Hey Ubbs! I think the Texas Tech offense is going to be unstoppable this season. Neal Brown has added a few plays to the offense similar to the Oregon Ducks Offense. They are tryin to get the ball in the hands of the speedy guys like Ben McRoy and Jakeem Grant. Do you think this will make the offense better
David Ubben: I don't know about unstoppable, but I do like Tech's idea of using running backs like Oregon has used guys like DeAnthony Thomas. Those jet sweeps and shovels are really tough to defend when you get the ball to speedsters.
andy (texas): 2 years ago it was justin blackmon, last year it was collin klein, who's this years break out player on offense?
David Ubben: Nick Florence.
Chris (Dallas): David with the shift of power and the landscape in the conference, do you think it's safe to say that we wont see the same sort of dominance from the UT's and OU's of the world?
David Ubben: I'll be writing about that tomorrow. Stay tuned. It's a big, big day on the blog on Wednesday, actually. That's all I'll say for now.
Nemo Cowbell (Pasture, TX): Do you think Bob Bowlsby was the wisest choice for Big 12 Commissioner?
David Ubben: There's no way to know right now, but I like the move. He's proven himself in college athletics, though only John Swofford has a history as an AD among commissioners. He's a bright guy, but understanding the dynamics between schools might take a little bit of getting used to. Bringing in someone from the outside was the best move, but it's too early to get any real read on what will happen in his tenure.
Brent A. Carter (Victoria, TX): Do you agree with me that OSU is due for a massive letdown in 2012? They are a program that is barely .500 over the life of their program and I just believe in the law of averages.
David Ubben: No. 8-9 wins with upside for 10-11 wins.
Kenny Little Rock [via mobile]: Best special teams player in the conference? ,ost important?
David Ubben: 1) Quinn Sharp by a mile. 2) Quinn Sharp by a mile.
Devon Shes. (Austin, TX): What penalties are on the horizon for Vaccaro, Okafor and Matthews after this past arrest on 6th St.?
David Ubben: This deal sounds like a whole lot of nothing. Nothing worth legitimate punishment unless new information surfaces. Some extra running for letting it reach the point where cops had to be called, but take it and move on.
Ed (Houston): How long does the Big12 boycott last? Will Baylor break first? Is the money just too good?
David Ubben: Now this is a great, great question. Ultimately, I think the money will be too much. Texas isn't like Nebraska. They're too close to everyone. I'd say the scheduling boycott ends with an announcement in five years. Games in 7-8 years with somebody in the Big 12.
Rob (Boise, ID): Regarding an earlier question, what boycott are you talking about? I hadn't heard anything about any boycott surrounding the Big12. Maybe you could write an article about it.
David Ubben: It's not a "boycott" per se, but nobody from the Big 12 is real keen on scheduling A&M in football. That's basically what we're talking about.
Have more to say? Reach me here.
Time for a few highlights.
Daniel (Dodge City): What do you think of K-State this year? Is 8 or 9 wins just right or too much for them?
David Ubben: If I had to guess, I'd say nine wins, but I do that with a lot of reservation. I'm not quite sure what to think. I'm certainly skeptical of their ability to duplicate last year's results, but I'm also very leery of doubting a Bill Snyder team that brings back as much talent as this 2012 squad does. Not sure I have a great feel for the Cats this year.
Nick (Ames): Do you think AJ Klein and Jake Knott will translate to good NFL linebackers? How much harder is it to get recognized by nfl scouts at a school like Iowa State compared to a tradionally power football school like Texas?
David Ubben: These days, exposure isn't much of a problem. The only thing I question from those two is their speed and coverage ability. They're both sure tacklers and tough as nails. But is their athleticism up to par? I haven't talked to many scouts about them, but I'd like to get a sense of how NFL teams see them. Something for the future, I think.
Chris (Houston): What games does Texas lose this year? Why does Texas lose those games?
David Ubben: Oklahoma. West Virginia. Kansas State. Not enough offense in the first two. Kansas State's spell over the Longhorns in the third.
chris sunny south alabama [via mobile]: Hey Ubbs! I think the Texas Tech offense is going to be unstoppable this season. Neal Brown has added a few plays to the offense similar to the Oregon Ducks Offense. They are tryin to get the ball in the hands of the speedy guys like Ben McRoy and Jakeem Grant. Do you think this will make the offense better
David Ubben: I don't know about unstoppable, but I do like Tech's idea of using running backs like Oregon has used guys like DeAnthony Thomas. Those jet sweeps and shovels are really tough to defend when you get the ball to speedsters.
andy (texas): 2 years ago it was justin blackmon, last year it was collin klein, who's this years break out player on offense?
David Ubben: Nick Florence.
Chris (Dallas): David with the shift of power and the landscape in the conference, do you think it's safe to say that we wont see the same sort of dominance from the UT's and OU's of the world?
David Ubben: I'll be writing about that tomorrow. Stay tuned. It's a big, big day on the blog on Wednesday, actually. That's all I'll say for now.
Nemo Cowbell (Pasture, TX): Do you think Bob Bowlsby was the wisest choice for Big 12 Commissioner?
David Ubben: There's no way to know right now, but I like the move. He's proven himself in college athletics, though only John Swofford has a history as an AD among commissioners. He's a bright guy, but understanding the dynamics between schools might take a little bit of getting used to. Bringing in someone from the outside was the best move, but it's too early to get any real read on what will happen in his tenure.
Brent A. Carter (Victoria, TX): Do you agree with me that OSU is due for a massive letdown in 2012? They are a program that is barely .500 over the life of their program and I just believe in the law of averages.
David Ubben: No. 8-9 wins with upside for 10-11 wins.
Kenny Little Rock [via mobile]: Best special teams player in the conference? ,ost important?
David Ubben: 1) Quinn Sharp by a mile. 2) Quinn Sharp by a mile.
Devon Shes. (Austin, TX): What penalties are on the horizon for Vaccaro, Okafor and Matthews after this past arrest on 6th St.?
David Ubben: This deal sounds like a whole lot of nothing. Nothing worth legitimate punishment unless new information surfaces. Some extra running for letting it reach the point where cops had to be called, but take it and move on.
Ed (Houston): How long does the Big12 boycott last? Will Baylor break first? Is the money just too good?
David Ubben: Now this is a great, great question. Ultimately, I think the money will be too much. Texas isn't like Nebraska. They're too close to everyone. I'd say the scheduling boycott ends with an announcement in five years. Games in 7-8 years with somebody in the Big 12.
Rob (Boise, ID): Regarding an earlier question, what boycott are you talking about? I hadn't heard anything about any boycott surrounding the Big12. Maybe you could write an article about it.
David Ubben: It's not a "boycott" per se, but nobody from the Big 12 is real keen on scheduling A&M in football. That's basically what we're talking about.
The 2012 NFL draft is over, but it's never too early to look ahead to 2013. I mean, we basically have to, right?
NFL draft guru Todd McShay released his first-round mock draft,
and there are plenty of Big 12 talents on the list. You'll need ESPN Insider to see it all, but here's who he pegs as a first-rounder for next year.
No. 3, Minnesota Vikings: Jackson Jeffcoat, DE, Texas
My take: This is the first of many times you'll see Jeffcoat's name on draft lists. Jeffcoat came to Texas as the nation's No. 1 recruit in the 2009 class, and next offseason will be the first in which he's available for the NFL draft. He's made good on his potential, but struggled with an ankle injury that slowed an otherwise outstanding first season. He was very solid in 2011, but could be poised for a breakout season in 2012 on the national stage. Either way, I'd be shocked if Jeffcoat wasn't a first-rounder whenever he leaves. If he continues to progress, top five is a near certainty.
No. 12, Seattle Seahawks: Terrance Williams, WR, Baylor
My take: Williams has a lot to prove in 2012. He may have had the quietest 900-yard receiving season in history last season, overshadowed by the Big 12's leading rusher (Terrance Ganaway), leading receiver (Kendall Wright, 1,600+ yards), and Heisman winner Robert Griffin III. Can Williams handle the pressure from defenses as the bona fide No. 1 target for a new quarterback in Nick Florence? You have to love Williams' physical attributes, but can he maintain his production? I'm confidently betting yes, but we'll find out next year.
No. 19, Kansas City Chiefs: Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma
My take: Jones has plenty to prove, too. When Ryan Broyles went down, Jones struggled. He's back, and coaches love what he's done this spring. If he plays well, I could see Jones reinvigorating his stock and rising into the top 10 or top five. If he struggles again, I'd be shocked if he was a first rounder. Of all the Big 12 talents on this list, I'd say Jones' stock is the most volatile.
No. 25, Cincinnati Bengals: Alex Okafor, DE, Texas
My take: Love Okafor's game a whole lot, and admittedly, I regret snubbing him from the Big 12's top 25 players in 2011. The thing with him is, his physical attributes don't wow you like his teammate Jeffcoat's does. That said, he's consistently productive, and that says a lot. He has plenty of help in Texas' defense, and the Longhorns defensive line will be scary this year with Jeffcoat, Okafor and juco transfer defensive tackle Brandon Moore, who teammates pegged as "unstoppable" this spring.
NFL draft guru Todd McShay released his first-round mock draft,
No. 3, Minnesota Vikings: Jackson Jeffcoat, DE, Texas
My take: This is the first of many times you'll see Jeffcoat's name on draft lists. Jeffcoat came to Texas as the nation's No. 1 recruit in the 2009 class, and next offseason will be the first in which he's available for the NFL draft. He's made good on his potential, but struggled with an ankle injury that slowed an otherwise outstanding first season. He was very solid in 2011, but could be poised for a breakout season in 2012 on the national stage. Either way, I'd be shocked if Jeffcoat wasn't a first-rounder whenever he leaves. If he continues to progress, top five is a near certainty.
No. 12, Seattle Seahawks: Terrance Williams, WR, Baylor
My take: Williams has a lot to prove in 2012. He may have had the quietest 900-yard receiving season in history last season, overshadowed by the Big 12's leading rusher (Terrance Ganaway), leading receiver (Kendall Wright, 1,600+ yards), and Heisman winner Robert Griffin III. Can Williams handle the pressure from defenses as the bona fide No. 1 target for a new quarterback in Nick Florence? You have to love Williams' physical attributes, but can he maintain his production? I'm confidently betting yes, but we'll find out next year.
No. 19, Kansas City Chiefs: Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma
My take: Jones has plenty to prove, too. When Ryan Broyles went down, Jones struggled. He's back, and coaches love what he's done this spring. If he plays well, I could see Jones reinvigorating his stock and rising into the top 10 or top five. If he struggles again, I'd be shocked if he was a first rounder. Of all the Big 12 talents on this list, I'd say Jones' stock is the most volatile.
No. 25, Cincinnati Bengals: Alex Okafor, DE, Texas
My take: Love Okafor's game a whole lot, and admittedly, I regret snubbing him from the Big 12's top 25 players in 2011. The thing with him is, his physical attributes don't wow you like his teammate Jeffcoat's does. That said, he's consistently productive, and that says a lot. He has plenty of help in Texas' defense, and the Longhorns defensive line will be scary this year with Jeffcoat, Okafor and juco transfer defensive tackle Brandon Moore, who teammates pegged as "unstoppable" this spring.
BU's Wright explains poor 40, improvement
March, 21, 2012
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WACO, Texas -- One of the most eye-popping numbers from the NFL combine was (supposed?) speedster receiver Kendall Wright's head-turning 4.61 40 time.
Wright earned his living running by defensive backs, and the time seemed inexplicable. At Baylor's pro day on Wednesday, he got another chance in the midst of Robert Griffin III mania, RG3's first public throwing session since a bowl win over Washington.
"I wasn't really worried about my routes or catching, me and Robert always work at that," Wright said. "All I was worried about was running a good 40 time, because everybody thought I ran a 4.6. I haven't run one of those since fifth grade or something."
Mission accomplished for Wright, who was officially clocked at a 4.46, though he'd been told by some it was as low as 4.4 or 4.41.
Wright pointed to his start as the reason for his slow time at the combine in Indianapolis.
"He wanted me to hold my stance for three seconds, and I didn't work on it like that," Wright said. "I got uncomfortable when I was down there and I popped up on my first two starts. That's all I worked on when I got back, was my 40 starts."
Wright looked at tape and worked on starts with former receiver teammates Tevin Reese and Terrance Williams.
"When I left the combine, I wasn't even thinking about 4.6," Wright said. "I was just thinking about running today at the pro day."
It looks like it paid off.
Chicago Bears coach Lovie Smith was in attendance on Wednesday, but declined comment when asked about the Bears' interest in Wright, who will visit with the Bears on April 2 or 3.
"No team I talked to was worried about [the 40 time]," Wright said. "I play fast as anybody out there, so that's all that really mattered, was the film."
No arguments here, or on the field at the Allison Indoor Facility at Baylor.
Wright earned his living running by defensive backs, and the time seemed inexplicable. At Baylor's pro day on Wednesday, he got another chance in the midst of Robert Griffin III mania, RG3's first public throwing session since a bowl win over Washington.
"I wasn't really worried about my routes or catching, me and Robert always work at that," Wright said. "All I was worried about was running a good 40 time, because everybody thought I ran a 4.6. I haven't run one of those since fifth grade or something."
Mission accomplished for Wright, who was officially clocked at a 4.46, though he'd been told by some it was as low as 4.4 or 4.41.
Wright pointed to his start as the reason for his slow time at the combine in Indianapolis.
"He wanted me to hold my stance for three seconds, and I didn't work on it like that," Wright said. "I got uncomfortable when I was down there and I popped up on my first two starts. That's all I worked on when I got back, was my 40 starts."
Wright looked at tape and worked on starts with former receiver teammates Tevin Reese and Terrance Williams.
"When I left the combine, I wasn't even thinking about 4.6," Wright said. "I was just thinking about running today at the pro day."
It looks like it paid off.
Chicago Bears coach Lovie Smith was in attendance on Wednesday, but declined comment when asked about the Bears' interest in Wright, who will visit with the Bears on April 2 or 3.
"No team I talked to was worried about [the 40 time]," Wright said. "I play fast as anybody out there, so that's all that really mattered, was the film."
No arguments here, or on the field at the Allison Indoor Facility at Baylor.
Thoughts from a visit to Baylor's spring
March, 20, 2012
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WACO, Texas -- Baylor practiced for about two hours in shoulder pads and shorts on Monday, and I got a chance to see the new-look Bears up close and personal.
I’ll be writing about this in detail in the coming weeks, but first things first: the quarterbacks.
I’ll be writing about this in detail in the coming weeks, but first things first: the quarterbacks.
- It was a windy day with what I’d say were easily 30-40 mph gusts, so the Bears moved inside for the second half of practice, but even in the wind, quarterback Nick Florence looked really good. Throwing into the wind, he hit Terrance Williams and Tevin Reese on consecutive deep balls down the field in one-on-one drills. Reese and Williams, by the way, looked great ... but you already knew that.
- Bryce Petty is a step above Florence when it comes to physical skills, but Florence isn’t that far behind. Petty has a bigger arm and a bit more velocity, but both quarterbacks can definitely “make all the throws,” as they say. We’ve seen Florence do it in game action, but ultimately, it’s hard to see Florence losing this job. He’s been in this system since 2009, and it shows. He’s decisive. He’s got a quick release. He makes moving the ball in pass skeleton or 11-on-11 look effortless at times and he takes care of the ball.
- I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Florence will be a well above average quarterback in this league, but Petty could already start for a handful of Big 12 teams. Bottom line is I think this plays out like most think. This is Florence's team in 2012. Baylor can feel good about that. In 2013 and 2014, this is Petty's team. Baylor can feel really, really good about that. Art Briles has to sleep easy at night when it comes to worrying about quarterbacks.[+] Enlarge
Sarah Glenn/Getty ImagesEarly indications from spring practice shows Nick Florence will be Baylor's starter this fall. - I’ll have more on him today, too, but hyped transfer Lache Seastrunk looks like he’s bulked up a whole lot. It shows in his shoulders and calves, especially. He’s much thicker, which I have to think he understood he needed after an unproductive stop at Oregon before transferring to Baylor. His development will be fun to watch. Right now, he’s getting some reps with the first team, but Jarred Salubi was getting the majority of first-team reps. Surpassing him will be tough, but I think Seastrunk will get a decent chunk of touches this year. He’s got an explosiveness and shiftiness that’s rare; it’s easy to see why he was so highly recruited. But will that mean production? We’ll see. Late in practice, he disappeared in the pile during 11-on-11 drills, but broke outside and outran everybody down the left side for what would have been an 80-yard touchdown run.
- That wowed the defenders on the sideline. "He’s been hanging out with one of the best backs around, LaMichael James," exclaimed defensive end Tevin Elliott on the sidelines, to no one in particular. “That must be where he gets some of his swag from."
- That said, don’t let the hype from Seastrunk distract from what looks like a strong effort by Salubi to win this job ahead of Glasco Martin as well. He’s running hard inside the tackles and showcasing a physical style we didn’t see much of last year. Terrance Ganaway provided that all last season, and the Bears need someone to duplicate it. Salubi looks like he wants to answer the call and be known for more than shiftiness on the outside.
- One scary thing to watch for, Bears: Replacing center Philip Blake. I don’t recall many bad snaps last year, but the first two to Florence during 11-on-11 drills on Monday were bad, and I counted at least six through the rest of the practice. Four with the first unit. There’s a lot of time to fix that, but center is one of those positions people don’t quite appreciate until they don’t have a good one.
- A rough day for the defense. The athletes are there for the Bears, but the offense moved the ball at will in most of the team drills. Such is life going up against a high-powered set of skill players like the ones the Bears have. You couldn’t get much of a feel for the physicality, however, because players were only wearing shoulder pads.
- Baylor’s one of the most fun teams in the league when it comes to trick plays; the Bears successfully executed quite a few in wins over TCU and Oklahoma. They’ve got some more fun ones drawn up along the goal line; plays we didn’t see in 2011 and ones I haven’t seen anyone duplicate. Detailing those is a good way to make sure you don’t ever see a practice again, but I’ll say this: They’ll be fun when Baylor busts them out.
- With Baylor’s pro day looming on Wednesday, lots of the team’s departing seniors were on hand at Monday’s practice, back from training for the combine and pro day. Quarterback Robert Griffin III was on the field and for the first half and in the huddle for some of that period talking with Briles and various players. Receiver Kendall Wright and Ganaway were also on hand, and stuck around to watch the second half of practice indoors.
- We’ll have some more from Griffin later today, but don’t be surprised if he busts out some bright cleats at his pro day showcase on Wednesday. He showed up Monday toting cleats reminiscent of the “Electricity” uniforms Baylor’s basketball team wore this postseason. Scott Drew would be proud.
We wrapped up our list of the Big 12's top 25 players in 2012 last week, but it's time to look ahead.
Who was way off this year's list that could crack it in 2013? Here's a few names.
Quandre Diggs, CB, Texas: Diggs' fellow corner, Carrington Byndom, nearly made this year's list, and perhaps should have. Next year, though, Diggs could make both of UT's cornerbacks among the league's best. As a true freshman, Diggs led the team in interceptions, with four.
Josh Boyce, WR, TCU: Boyce (and his quarterback, Casey Pachall) would have been easy selections this year, but they weren't in the Big 12. They will be in 2012. Boyce caught 61 balls for 998 yards and nine scores, and figures to be as productive next year.
Quarty McBackerson, QB, Oklahoma State: Call this a placeholder. Brandon Weeden is gone, but Oklahoma State has a great offensive line and lots of weapons around whoever wins the Cowboys' spring quarterback derby. Look for Clint Chelf, Wes Lunt or J.W. Walsh to make this list next year.
Malcolm Brown, RB, Texas: Brown led the Longhorns in rushing as a true freshman, but was hampered by injury and the team limited his touches early in the season. There won't be any restrictions this year, and if he stays healthy, he could be a 1,000-yard back, even with Joe Bergeron and Johnathan Gray sharing carries.
Darrin Moore, WR, Texas Tech: If you read this blog, you know how big of a Moore proponent I am. I see Biletnikoff Award potential in him. Tech needs a new top receiver, and if Moore stays healthy, don't rule out a 1,500-yard season for the 6-foot-4, 215-pounder.
Terrance Williams, WR, Baylor: Williams wasn't too far off this year, but he didn't make our honorable mention. He had a quiet 900-yard season this year, but without Kendall Wright, Williams is the top target for new quarterback Nick Florence.
Corey Nelson, LB, Oklahoma: Nelson had a somewhat underwhelming year, but without Travis Lewis' leadership, Nelson could emerge as a breakout defensive player this fall.
Who was way off this year's list that could crack it in 2013? Here's a few names.
Quandre Diggs, CB, Texas: Diggs' fellow corner, Carrington Byndom, nearly made this year's list, and perhaps should have. Next year, though, Diggs could make both of UT's cornerbacks among the league's best. As a true freshman, Diggs led the team in interceptions, with four.
Josh Boyce, WR, TCU: Boyce (and his quarterback, Casey Pachall) would have been easy selections this year, but they weren't in the Big 12. They will be in 2012. Boyce caught 61 balls for 998 yards and nine scores, and figures to be as productive next year.
Quarty McBackerson, QB, Oklahoma State: Call this a placeholder. Brandon Weeden is gone, but Oklahoma State has a great offensive line and lots of weapons around whoever wins the Cowboys' spring quarterback derby. Look for Clint Chelf, Wes Lunt or J.W. Walsh to make this list next year.
Malcolm Brown, RB, Texas: Brown led the Longhorns in rushing as a true freshman, but was hampered by injury and the team limited his touches early in the season. There won't be any restrictions this year, and if he stays healthy, he could be a 1,000-yard back, even with Joe Bergeron and Johnathan Gray sharing carries.
Darrin Moore, WR, Texas Tech: If you read this blog, you know how big of a Moore proponent I am. I see Biletnikoff Award potential in him. Tech needs a new top receiver, and if Moore stays healthy, don't rule out a 1,500-yard season for the 6-foot-4, 215-pounder.
Terrance Williams, WR, Baylor: Williams wasn't too far off this year, but he didn't make our honorable mention. He had a quiet 900-yard season this year, but without Kendall Wright, Williams is the top target for new quarterback Nick Florence.
Corey Nelson, LB, Oklahoma: Nelson had a somewhat underwhelming year, but without Travis Lewis' leadership, Nelson could emerge as a breakout defensive player this fall.
We'll kick off a new series today we've done in the past.
In "Spring Superlatives," we'll break down each team's best and worst positions entering the 2012 season. We'll kick it off with Baylor.
Strongest position: Wide receiver
Don't fret too much about losing Kendall Wright, Bears. The team lost an NFL-caliber receiver in Josh Gordon before the season and loses Wright, a 1,600-yard receiver, after the year.
Coach Art Briles, however, keeps reloading at the position and new quarterback Nick Florence will have plenty of targets next season. Terrance Williams tops that list, and NFL draft guru Mel Kiper Jr. lists him as the nation's No. 1 NFL prospect at receiver among players eligible for the 2013 draft.
Wright put together a Biletnikoff Award-caliber season last year, but Williams quietly put together a 59-catch, 957-yard, 11-touchdown season and finished fifth in the Big 12 in receiving.
That makes him the leading returning receiver in the Big 12. Who's No. 2? Funny you ask. How about Tevin Reese, another Baylor receiver who racked up 877 yards and seven scores on 51 catches.
West Virginia has a pair in Tavon Austin and Stedman Bailey who were more productive in the Big East, but we'll see how they measure up.
Lanear Sampson fills out Baylor's receiving corps after grabbing 42 balls for 572 yards.
Weakest position: Safety
Baylor gave up loads and loads of big plays last year; they were one of four Big 12 teams to give up more than 200 plays longer than 10 yards. No Big 12 team gave up more plays of longer than 30, 40 or 50 yards, too.
Mike Hicks and Sam Holl both return. Is this good news or bad news for the Bears? Expectations will be low for the duo, but every year we see second- and third-year starters take big steps forward on the field. Baylor needs those guys to do that.
The duo combined for 218 tackles, and both picked off three passes, combining to break up six passes. Those numbers aren't good enough considering the yardage and points Baylor's defense gave up. Fixing this position has to be goal No. 1 during the spring.
In "Spring Superlatives," we'll break down each team's best and worst positions entering the 2012 season. We'll kick it off with Baylor.
Strongest position: Wide receiver
Don't fret too much about losing Kendall Wright, Bears. The team lost an NFL-caliber receiver in Josh Gordon before the season and loses Wright, a 1,600-yard receiver, after the year.
Coach Art Briles, however, keeps reloading at the position and new quarterback Nick Florence will have plenty of targets next season. Terrance Williams tops that list, and NFL draft guru Mel Kiper Jr. lists him as the nation's No. 1 NFL prospect at receiver among players eligible for the 2013 draft.
Wright put together a Biletnikoff Award-caliber season last year, but Williams quietly put together a 59-catch, 957-yard, 11-touchdown season and finished fifth in the Big 12 in receiving.
That makes him the leading returning receiver in the Big 12. Who's No. 2? Funny you ask. How about Tevin Reese, another Baylor receiver who racked up 877 yards and seven scores on 51 catches.
West Virginia has a pair in Tavon Austin and Stedman Bailey who were more productive in the Big East, but we'll see how they measure up.
Lanear Sampson fills out Baylor's receiving corps after grabbing 42 balls for 572 yards.
Weakest position: Safety
Baylor gave up loads and loads of big plays last year; they were one of four Big 12 teams to give up more than 200 plays longer than 10 yards. No Big 12 team gave up more plays of longer than 30, 40 or 50 yards, too.
Mike Hicks and Sam Holl both return. Is this good news or bad news for the Bears? Expectations will be low for the duo, but every year we see second- and third-year starters take big steps forward on the field. Baylor needs those guys to do that.
The duo combined for 218 tackles, and both picked off three passes, combining to break up six passes. Those numbers aren't good enough considering the yardage and points Baylor's defense gave up. Fixing this position has to be goal No. 1 during the spring.
Baylor's next in line to kick off spring practice, and the party gets started in Waco this afternoon. Here's a closer look on what to watch for.
Schedule: The first of Baylor's 15 practices is today, leading up to the annual spring game on April 14. Baylor's spring game is a controlled scrimmage at the practice field. Practices are open to the media.
What's new: This is the first spring since 2008 that Robert Griffin III won't be on the field at Waco, and the first since 2009 that he's not in the spring as the starter. It'll be a little jarring without his No. 10 jersey on the field making plays, but the time is now for his understudy for much of that time, Nick Florence.
New faces: Special teams/wide receivers coach Dino Babers took the head coaching job at Eastern Illinois, and he was replaced from within. Coach Art Briles promoted assistant Jeff Lebby to a staff position. Baylor is also welcoming two new scholarship players: juco signee Eddie Lackey, a linebacker, and 2012 Recruiting All-Name team MVP Lynx Hawthorne, an early enrolling freshman athlete.
Big shoes to fill: Terrance Williams. The senior might have had the quietest 59-catch, 957-yard, 11-touchdown season of all time last year. He's supremely talented, but Kendall Wright led the Big 12 with 1,662 yards and leaves after leading the Bears in receiving for the past four seasons. Williams made some big catches in 2011, including the game-winner over Oklahoma that will live on as the defining moment of the Bears' dream year that ended with the first Heisman Trophy in school history. Williams has to show he can handle being the No. 1 target for a new quarterback.
Question mark: Will the defense progress? It should in Year 2 under coordinator Phil Bennett, who Baylor aggressively pursued after the 2010 season. The Bears were one of the league's worst defenses in 2011, but had the best player in the country on offense the pick up the slack. Florence is good. He's not the best player in the country. Will the payoff for getting Bennett begin to show up this spring? It was rough last year from what I saw on my trip to Waco. Leading tackler Elliot Coffey and DT Nicolas Jean-Baptiste are gone, but the team returns nine of its top 10 tacklers.
Breaking out: Running back Lache Seastrunk. The Oregon transfer tried to become eligible for 2011, but didn't do so after joining the team just before the season. The Bears didn't need him anyway; Terrance Ganaway rumbled to a Big 12 rushing title. Ganaway's gone now, though, and Seastrunk will try and win the job this spring alongside promising, more experienced backs in Glasco Martin and Jarred Salubi.
All eyes on: Florence. It's pretty obvious. Florence hasn't been handed the job just yet. Bryce Petty is behind him on the depth chart and loaded with potential, too. Florence, though, played most of the 2009 season and looked good in relief of RG3 this year, leading the Bears to a win over Texas Tech on Thanksgiving weekend. I'm betting Florence is above average this year, and he'll have arguably the Big 12's best receiving corps (with apologies to West Virginia), a good offensive line and a great group of backs. In Briles' system, though, the quarterback makes it all go.
Schedule: The first of Baylor's 15 practices is today, leading up to the annual spring game on April 14. Baylor's spring game is a controlled scrimmage at the practice field. Practices are open to the media.
What's new: This is the first spring since 2008 that Robert Griffin III won't be on the field at Waco, and the first since 2009 that he's not in the spring as the starter. It'll be a little jarring without his No. 10 jersey on the field making plays, but the time is now for his understudy for much of that time, Nick Florence.
New faces: Special teams/wide receivers coach Dino Babers took the head coaching job at Eastern Illinois, and he was replaced from within. Coach Art Briles promoted assistant Jeff Lebby to a staff position. Baylor is also welcoming two new scholarship players: juco signee Eddie Lackey, a linebacker, and 2012 Recruiting All-Name team MVP Lynx Hawthorne, an early enrolling freshman athlete.
Big shoes to fill: Terrance Williams. The senior might have had the quietest 59-catch, 957-yard, 11-touchdown season of all time last year. He's supremely talented, but Kendall Wright led the Big 12 with 1,662 yards and leaves after leading the Bears in receiving for the past four seasons. Williams made some big catches in 2011, including the game-winner over Oklahoma that will live on as the defining moment of the Bears' dream year that ended with the first Heisman Trophy in school history. Williams has to show he can handle being the No. 1 target for a new quarterback.
Question mark: Will the defense progress? It should in Year 2 under coordinator Phil Bennett, who Baylor aggressively pursued after the 2010 season. The Bears were one of the league's worst defenses in 2011, but had the best player in the country on offense the pick up the slack. Florence is good. He's not the best player in the country. Will the payoff for getting Bennett begin to show up this spring? It was rough last year from what I saw on my trip to Waco. Leading tackler Elliot Coffey and DT Nicolas Jean-Baptiste are gone, but the team returns nine of its top 10 tacklers.
Breaking out: Running back Lache Seastrunk. The Oregon transfer tried to become eligible for 2011, but didn't do so after joining the team just before the season. The Bears didn't need him anyway; Terrance Ganaway rumbled to a Big 12 rushing title. Ganaway's gone now, though, and Seastrunk will try and win the job this spring alongside promising, more experienced backs in Glasco Martin and Jarred Salubi.
All eyes on: Florence. It's pretty obvious. Florence hasn't been handed the job just yet. Bryce Petty is behind him on the depth chart and loaded with potential, too. Florence, though, played most of the 2009 season and looked good in relief of RG3 this year, leading the Bears to a win over Texas Tech on Thanksgiving weekend. I'm betting Florence is above average this year, and he'll have arguably the Big 12's best receiving corps (with apologies to West Virginia), a good offensive line and a great group of backs. In Briles' system, though, the quarterback makes it all go.
Chat: New commish, a few 2012 predictions
February, 28, 2012
Feb 28
4:45
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By
David Ubben | ESPN.com
Thanks for all the questions today. It was a fun chat. Here's the full transcript.
And now, time for some highlights:
Chris Fiegler (Latham,NY): Who will be the Best Quarterback in the Big 12 in 2012?
David Ubben: It'll be a two-horse race between Geno Smith and Landry Jones.
Paul (Stillwater): Ubbs - seems like a lot of scounts are hating on weeden and blackmon. they say that blackmon isn't tall enough or fast enough and that weeden's 100 yrs old can't make the tight throws. have these guys not seen the game film and are all these measurables that important?
David Ubben: I'd say you're not listening very closely, Paul. Blackmon's a near lock in the top five, and Weeden's a strong candidate for the No. 3 QB in this draft. He didn't throw well at the combine, but he's got skills. The age thing is more a question about his longevity in the league, not his actual skill.
Bear (Dallas): Do you feel like you should get a Gut Pak now after all the Baylor comments?
David Ubben: It sounded pretty good today. I was sifting through the e-mails today (There were a ton. Thanks, Baylor fans.) and I could about taste it. Look for the full guide on Wednesday.
Mason (Texas): This week we heard Dick Ebersol's name mentioned as a possible candidate for Big 12 Commish. You hearing about or willing to speculate about any other names?
David Ubben: Nope. I've heard a few, but nothing I'd go with yet. Bringing in Jack Swarbrick from ND seems like a terrible idea. The last thing the Big 12 needs is a close personal friend of DeLoss Dodds becoming the commissioner. Britton Banowsky, the commissioner of the C-USA, is one name that keeps popping up, though.
DoTheGundy (Tulsa): Who is your choice for breakout offensive player for next year?
David Ubben: Tough call here. There are lots of candidates. I'll go with Darrin Moore at Texas Tech. Do Terrance Williams or Lache Seastrunk at Baylor count?
W (Anaheim): Since they have no respect for KSU, who's going to replace Mizzou as KU's most hated rival?
David Ubben: No, here's the deal: That's going to change. Losing Mizzou is going to hurt. The immediate result will be KU taking that rivalry with K-State a whole lot more seriously. The Sunflower Showdown is about to get an upgrade.
Donnie (Oklahoma): Jake Trotter's chat on the SoonerNation blog suggested that part of UT's issues the last couple of years is partly due to them signing most of their class before they play their senior years thusly not getting to fully evaluate their talent growth potential (basically). What is your thoughts on this theory?
David Ubben: That's part of it. It's not all of it. When you have guys committing (Not signing. Players all sign at the same time) so early, it increases the variables. Texas has been part of the reason why guys are committing earlier and earlier. That wasn't all the reason, though. I don't think Texas was evaluating players as thoroughly as they had in the past, and development has been an issue, too. Part of that is on the player, but part of it's on the staff, too.
Mark (Texas): What's a realistic first year for TCU in the Big 12 next year?
David Ubben: Best-case scenario: 11-1. My pick: 9-3
Rainy (Oklahoma): Dear Sir, Do you think it will take a National Championship and/or a Heisman caliber season for Landry Jones to vindicate himself of the frustration he's caused alot of Sooner fans? Or do you think it will take less than that?
David Ubben: One or the other would probably help. At Oklahoma, sorry to say for Jones, that's probably what it would take. The bar is so high in Norman. You can't win 11 games and think that'll please people. Jones has already won a BCS bowl and a Big 12 title. Still, it hasn't been enough.
Dave (MD): Is it just me, or does the Big 12 seem to have the best collection of coaches in the country? Mack and Stoops have been doing it for years, Gundy/Briles/Rhodes seem rock solid. Snyder is a magician. Tubbs, once a hot commodity, is probably on the lower tier in the Big 12.
David Ubben: Maybe so. He's got a better resume than a lot of those guys, but we're still waiting for him to do something at Tech. He's recruited well, which is a good step, but Tech's only won 13 games in two years. That's been unheard of in Lubbock lately.
Jamie (Dallas): If you had to pick a 2012 Big 12 rushing champ right this instant, who would you choose and why?
David Ubben: Joseph Randle. He'll have a great O-line, and with a young QB and unproven big-time receivers, OSU will lean on him.
Levi Stevenson (Ames, IA): What sort of improvement do you expect from Jared Barnett in his sophomore season?
David Ubben: He's got to be consistent on the easy throws. That's the first thing for any young QB. Look at how he played in the Pinstripe Bowl: He just has to be better. Slants, eight-yard outs, flats. Those throws have to be on the money 90-95% of the time. He was all over the place in the last couple games.
Mo (Texas): Come on Ubs, 9-3 for TCU? That's a little high. They will have success, but they are REALLY upgrading their schedule. I'm thinking closer to 7.
David Ubben: Upgrading their schedule, yes. But Mo, I think you're underestimating the kind of talent they have returning in 2011. Three 700-yard rushers? A big-time QB? Three great receivers with plenty of potential to go with their production? The Horned Frogs offense will be as good as anyone's.
Tony (Richmond, CA): Ubbs, Kendall Wright ran a 4.6 40 at the combine. I thought he was much faster than that. Is simply a case of jitters, and not rising to the occasion, or I was mistaken about his speed? How much did he damage his stock?
David Ubben: No idea. That was eye popping to me. Maybe he was banged up. Maybe he trained poorly before the draft. I don't know, but he was much faster than that during the season.
And now, time for some highlights:
Chris Fiegler (Latham,NY): Who will be the Best Quarterback in the Big 12 in 2012?
David Ubben: It'll be a two-horse race between Geno Smith and Landry Jones.
Paul (Stillwater): Ubbs - seems like a lot of scounts are hating on weeden and blackmon. they say that blackmon isn't tall enough or fast enough and that weeden's 100 yrs old can't make the tight throws. have these guys not seen the game film and are all these measurables that important?
David Ubben: I'd say you're not listening very closely, Paul. Blackmon's a near lock in the top five, and Weeden's a strong candidate for the No. 3 QB in this draft. He didn't throw well at the combine, but he's got skills. The age thing is more a question about his longevity in the league, not his actual skill.
Bear (Dallas): Do you feel like you should get a Gut Pak now after all the Baylor comments?
David Ubben: It sounded pretty good today. I was sifting through the e-mails today (There were a ton. Thanks, Baylor fans.) and I could about taste it. Look for the full guide on Wednesday.
Mason (Texas): This week we heard Dick Ebersol's name mentioned as a possible candidate for Big 12 Commish. You hearing about or willing to speculate about any other names?
David Ubben: Nope. I've heard a few, but nothing I'd go with yet. Bringing in Jack Swarbrick from ND seems like a terrible idea. The last thing the Big 12 needs is a close personal friend of DeLoss Dodds becoming the commissioner. Britton Banowsky, the commissioner of the C-USA, is one name that keeps popping up, though.
DoTheGundy (Tulsa): Who is your choice for breakout offensive player for next year?
David Ubben: Tough call here. There are lots of candidates. I'll go with Darrin Moore at Texas Tech. Do Terrance Williams or Lache Seastrunk at Baylor count?
W (Anaheim): Since they have no respect for KSU, who's going to replace Mizzou as KU's most hated rival?
David Ubben: No, here's the deal: That's going to change. Losing Mizzou is going to hurt. The immediate result will be KU taking that rivalry with K-State a whole lot more seriously. The Sunflower Showdown is about to get an upgrade.
Donnie (Oklahoma): Jake Trotter's chat on the SoonerNation blog suggested that part of UT's issues the last couple of years is partly due to them signing most of their class before they play their senior years thusly not getting to fully evaluate their talent growth potential (basically). What is your thoughts on this theory?
David Ubben: That's part of it. It's not all of it. When you have guys committing (Not signing. Players all sign at the same time) so early, it increases the variables. Texas has been part of the reason why guys are committing earlier and earlier. That wasn't all the reason, though. I don't think Texas was evaluating players as thoroughly as they had in the past, and development has been an issue, too. Part of that is on the player, but part of it's on the staff, too.
Mark (Texas): What's a realistic first year for TCU in the Big 12 next year?
David Ubben: Best-case scenario: 11-1. My pick: 9-3
Rainy (Oklahoma): Dear Sir, Do you think it will take a National Championship and/or a Heisman caliber season for Landry Jones to vindicate himself of the frustration he's caused alot of Sooner fans? Or do you think it will take less than that?
David Ubben: One or the other would probably help. At Oklahoma, sorry to say for Jones, that's probably what it would take. The bar is so high in Norman. You can't win 11 games and think that'll please people. Jones has already won a BCS bowl and a Big 12 title. Still, it hasn't been enough.
Dave (MD): Is it just me, or does the Big 12 seem to have the best collection of coaches in the country? Mack and Stoops have been doing it for years, Gundy/Briles/Rhodes seem rock solid. Snyder is a magician. Tubbs, once a hot commodity, is probably on the lower tier in the Big 12.
David Ubben: Maybe so. He's got a better resume than a lot of those guys, but we're still waiting for him to do something at Tech. He's recruited well, which is a good step, but Tech's only won 13 games in two years. That's been unheard of in Lubbock lately.
Jamie (Dallas): If you had to pick a 2012 Big 12 rushing champ right this instant, who would you choose and why?
David Ubben: Joseph Randle. He'll have a great O-line, and with a young QB and unproven big-time receivers, OSU will lean on him.
Levi Stevenson (Ames, IA): What sort of improvement do you expect from Jared Barnett in his sophomore season?
David Ubben: He's got to be consistent on the easy throws. That's the first thing for any young QB. Look at how he played in the Pinstripe Bowl: He just has to be better. Slants, eight-yard outs, flats. Those throws have to be on the money 90-95% of the time. He was all over the place in the last couple games.
Mo (Texas): Come on Ubs, 9-3 for TCU? That's a little high. They will have success, but they are REALLY upgrading their schedule. I'm thinking closer to 7.
David Ubben: Upgrading their schedule, yes. But Mo, I think you're underestimating the kind of talent they have returning in 2011. Three 700-yard rushers? A big-time QB? Three great receivers with plenty of potential to go with their production? The Horned Frogs offense will be as good as anyone's.
Tony (Richmond, CA): Ubbs, Kendall Wright ran a 4.6 40 at the combine. I thought he was much faster than that. Is simply a case of jitters, and not rising to the occasion, or I was mistaken about his speed? How much did he damage his stock?
David Ubben: No idea. That was eye popping to me. Maybe he was banged up. Maybe he trained poorly before the draft. I don't know, but he was much faster than that during the season.
Big 12 position rankings: Receivers/TEs
February, 14, 2012
Feb 14
9:00
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By
David Ubben | ESPN.com
We're continuing our look at the postseason rankings for each position in the Big 12. Here's a look back at where the receivers ranked in the preseason.
In this position, unlike quarterback, depth is a major, major factor in these rankings.
More postseason position rankings:1. Oklahoma State: The Cowboys boasted two-time Biletnikoff winner Justin Blackmon, but he wasn't the only weapon. The Cowboys had nine (!) receivers with at least 19 catches and 200 yards receiving this season. Insane. Life is good with Brandon Weeden at quarterback.
2. Baylor: Kendall Wright actually outperformed Blackmon and Ryan Broyles on the stat sheet, catching 108 balls for 1,663 yards. The Bears didn't have the insane depth of OSU, but the trio of Wright, Terrance Williams (59 rec, 957 yards, 11 TDs) and Tevin Reese (51 rec, 877 yards, 7 TDs) were all in the Big 12's top seven receivers.
3. Texas A&M: Ryan Swope emerged to become one of just four Big 12 receivers to notch 1,000-yard seasons. Jeff Fuller's season was disappointing, but he still finished eighth in the league in receiving, and Uzoma Nwachukwu was in the league's top 15 in receiving.
4. Oklahoma: The Sooners weren't quite as solid as they thought to begin the season. Broyles was as advertised, though his Biletnikoff-contending season was cut short by a torn ACL. The unit was productive, but came down with the drops late in the season. Broyles and Kenny Stills were both in the league's top seven in receiving, and Jaz Reynolds caught 41 passes for 715 yards to crack the top 10.
5. Texas Tech: Tech's top target, Darrin Moore, battled injuries all year, but Eric Ward emerged as the team's most consistent target, catching 84 passes for 800 yards and 11 scores. Alex Torres missed two games, but added 616 more yards.
6. Missouri: The Tigers' receivers had their production dip with a dual-threat passer in James Franklin who ran the ball more than his predecessor, but they were still pretty good, despite lacking a true big-time threat. T.J. Moe caught 54 passes for 649 yards and four scores. Tight end Michael Egnew added 50 grabs for 523 yards and three scores. L'Damian Washington, Marcus Lucas and Wes Kemp had unremarkable individual seasons, but their production added up to a good year for Mizzou's receivers.
7. Kansas State: Kansas State was better than most thought to begin the season, but the ground-based offense limited their receivers' ability to finish with big production. Chris Harper (40 rec, 547 yards, 5 TDs) led the group. Tramaine Thompson and Tyler Lockett showed some good promise, too.
8. Texas: The Longhorns could get really good, really fast at this spot. The uncertainty/struggles at quarterback limited this group, but Jaxon Shipley and Mike Davis could both mature into absolute stars. For now, though, they didn't quite crack the top 15 in the Big 12 in receiving. Both topped 40 catches and 600 receiving yards.
9. Iowa State: Darius Reynolds' size downfield will be missed, but Aaron Horne and Josh Lenz are tough covers working the middle of the field. Reynolds caught seven touchdowns, and Horne and Lenz both topped 38 catches.
10. Kansas: Yikes. The Jayhawks didn't have a receiver in the league's top 20, but D.J. Beshears led the team with 40 grabs for 437 yards and three touchdowns. He was the only Jayhawk in the Big 12's top 32 in receiving.
In this position, unlike quarterback, depth is a major, major factor in these rankings.
More postseason position rankings:
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Doug Pensinger/Getty ImagesJustin Blackmon highlighted Oklahoma State's deep group of receivers this season.
Doug Pensinger/Getty ImagesJustin Blackmon highlighted Oklahoma State's deep group of receivers this season. 2. Baylor: Kendall Wright actually outperformed Blackmon and Ryan Broyles on the stat sheet, catching 108 balls for 1,663 yards. The Bears didn't have the insane depth of OSU, but the trio of Wright, Terrance Williams (59 rec, 957 yards, 11 TDs) and Tevin Reese (51 rec, 877 yards, 7 TDs) were all in the Big 12's top seven receivers.
3. Texas A&M: Ryan Swope emerged to become one of just four Big 12 receivers to notch 1,000-yard seasons. Jeff Fuller's season was disappointing, but he still finished eighth in the league in receiving, and Uzoma Nwachukwu was in the league's top 15 in receiving.
4. Oklahoma: The Sooners weren't quite as solid as they thought to begin the season. Broyles was as advertised, though his Biletnikoff-contending season was cut short by a torn ACL. The unit was productive, but came down with the drops late in the season. Broyles and Kenny Stills were both in the league's top seven in receiving, and Jaz Reynolds caught 41 passes for 715 yards to crack the top 10.
5. Texas Tech: Tech's top target, Darrin Moore, battled injuries all year, but Eric Ward emerged as the team's most consistent target, catching 84 passes for 800 yards and 11 scores. Alex Torres missed two games, but added 616 more yards.
6. Missouri: The Tigers' receivers had their production dip with a dual-threat passer in James Franklin who ran the ball more than his predecessor, but they were still pretty good, despite lacking a true big-time threat. T.J. Moe caught 54 passes for 649 yards and four scores. Tight end Michael Egnew added 50 grabs for 523 yards and three scores. L'Damian Washington, Marcus Lucas and Wes Kemp had unremarkable individual seasons, but their production added up to a good year for Mizzou's receivers.
7. Kansas State: Kansas State was better than most thought to begin the season, but the ground-based offense limited their receivers' ability to finish with big production. Chris Harper (40 rec, 547 yards, 5 TDs) led the group. Tramaine Thompson and Tyler Lockett showed some good promise, too.
8. Texas: The Longhorns could get really good, really fast at this spot. The uncertainty/struggles at quarterback limited this group, but Jaxon Shipley and Mike Davis could both mature into absolute stars. For now, though, they didn't quite crack the top 15 in the Big 12 in receiving. Both topped 40 catches and 600 receiving yards.
9. Iowa State: Darius Reynolds' size downfield will be missed, but Aaron Horne and Josh Lenz are tough covers working the middle of the field. Reynolds caught seven touchdowns, and Horne and Lenz both topped 38 catches.
10. Kansas: Yikes. The Jayhawks didn't have a receiver in the league's top 20, but D.J. Beshears led the team with 40 grabs for 437 yards and three touchdowns. He was the only Jayhawk in the Big 12's top 32 in receiving.
The Big 12's top returning NFL talents
January, 27, 2012
Jan 27
10:00
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By
David Ubben | ESPN.com
This week's Senior Bowl and next month's NFL scouting combine will help decide who will hear their names called, and when, in April's NFL draft, but what about next year?
Mel Kiper unleashed his top five returning players for 2012, the top prospects at their positions in next year's draft.
Lots of interesting names. Here's where the Big 12 talents sit.
Quarterbacks
Receivers
Austin always struck me as an undersized player, but there's no denying his playmaking ability. Few can match his game-breaking ability with the ball in his hands.
Offensive tackles
Inside linebackers
Mel Kiper unleashed his top five returning players for 2012, the top prospects at their positions in next year's draft.
Lots of interesting names. Here's where the Big 12 talents sit.
Quarterbacks
- No. 2: Landry Jones, Oklahoma
- No. 4: Geno Smith, West Virginia
- No. 1: Braden Wilson, Kansas State
- No. 5: Ryan Clarke, West Virginia
Receivers
- No. 1: Terrance Williams, Baylor
- No. 3: Tavon Austin, West Virginia
Austin always struck me as an undersized player, but there's no denying his playmaking ability. Few can match his game-breaking ability with the ball in his hands.
Offensive tackles
- No. 5: Tanner Hawkinson, Kansas
- No. 4: Ben Habern, Oklahoma
- No. 1: Alex Okafor, Texas
Inside linebackers
- No. 4: Arthur Brown, Kansas State
- No. 4: Sean Porter, Texas A&M
- No. 5: Zaviar Gooden, Missouri
- No. 4: Demontre Hurst, Oklahoma
- No. 2: Quinn Sharp, Oklahoma State



