Big Ten: spring games 14

The last three Big Ten spring games were held over the weekend, and it's our job to recap them all.

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AP Photo/Al GoldisWith a big spring game, Michigan State might have found a new offensive weapon in Josiah Price.
Defending league champion Michigan State played before 35,000 fans at Spartan Stadium, falling short of Mark Dantonio's request for a crowd of 50,000 but having a fun day nonetheless. The White team defeated the Green squad 20-13, and you can find coverage of the event here, here, here and here.

Star of the game: Sophomore tight end Josiah Price had five catches for 81 yards, including the game-winning 2-yard touchdown with 27 seconds left to go. "Josiah Price has taken big steps forward this spring," Dantonio said. "He's blocking much better. He's a big-time catch guy. The more you throw the ball to him, the more excited you get, the more confidence he gets."

How it went down: Balance was a key word for the spring game, as -- unlike the past two years -- the offense was good enough to go toe to toe with the Spartans' defense.

Starting quarterback Connor Cook threw for 159 yards and two touchdowns but was also picked off twice. Backup Tyler O'Connor was intercepted three times. Safeties Kurtis Drummond and Demetrious Cox and cornerbacks Darian Hicks, Ezra Robinson and Jermaine Edmondson all came up with interceptions. That gives the Spartans confidence that their "No-Fly Zone" will remain in effect even without Darqueze Dennard and Isaiah Lewis.

The spring game also saw the unveiling of redshirt freshman Damion Terry, who scored on a 23-yard toss sweep on the White's first offensive play of the game. Terry later got banged up on a hit from Demetrius Cooper.

"We see certain people using two quarterbacks in systems," Dantonio said. "We experimented a little bit with those things and put a package together, so there are different things that we do."

Dantonio also found room for some fun during the scrimmage. The Green team pulled off a double pass where R.J. Shelton threw back to O'Connor, then threw 29 yards to Tony Lippett.

And the team's mascot, Sparty, got his traditional carry. After being leveled by the defense the past two seasons, Sparty scored this time around. See? More balance. Just don't expect more from Sparty in the fall.

"Sparty will probably redshirt," Dantonio said.

Spring game preview: Rutgers

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Spring football in the Big Ten bids farewell with the league’s final three spring games on Saturday. We're previewing all of them, and wrapping things up with new league member Rutgers:

When: 4 p.m. ET Saturday

Where: High Point Solutions Stadium, Piscataway, N.J.

Admission: Free. Events begin at 10:30 a.m., and an alumni flag football game benefiting former Rutgers player Eric LeGrand will be held at 12:30 p.m. Players will sign autographs on the field after the spring game. The full schedule of events is here.

TV: Streamed online via RVision at ScarletKnights.com

Weather forecast: Partly sunny, with a high near 69 degrees. Wind around 15 mph. Chance of rain is 30 percent.

What to watch for: The Scarlet Knights expect to hold a normal spring game scrimmage, and head coach Kyle Flood told reporters this week that he plans to be more involved with the on-field action than he has in the previous two years.

"I want to blow the whistles on the quarterbacks," Flood said. "We'll have Big Ten officials here, and when you put them in a situation where they have to decide if it's a sack or not a sack, there will be certain plays I want to let go a little bit longer, or maybe it would have been a sack, but I want to see some of the skill players play a little bit. I can control the pace and the tempo of everything if I'm down there."

The big story of the spring for Rutgers has been the quarterback battle. Gary Nova, Mike Bimonte and Chris Laviano have been sharing time with the first-stringers, and Nova is the only one with any real game experience. Flood hasn't tipped his hand on who might be leading the race, but he's anxious to see how they perform in a game-like setting.

Fans are also anxious to get a look at new offensive coordinator Ralph Friedgen's attack and hope it will lead to a more consistent downfield passing game. The former Maryland head coach's track record suggests it will. The offense returns most of its starters, though top tailback Paul James has missed contact drills this spring with a shoulder injury.

There's also a new coordinator on defense, though Joe Rossi was promoted from within and served as interim coordinator for the Pinstripe Bowl. Don't expect a whole lot to change on that side of the ball, where the Scarlet Knights are undersized but undeterred up front.

Big Ten fans can also get a peek at what one of the two new league members has in the way of personnel and fan support. Remember that the first 2014 conference game occurs in Piscataway on Sept. 13, when Penn State visits.

Spring game preview: Iowa

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Spring football ends Saturday in the Big Ten. I'll give you a moment to compose yourself. Wipe those tears away. Football will be back soon enough.

Three teams wrap up their sessions and we're taking a look at each. Here's what to expect from Iowa at its annual spring scrimmage.

When: 3 p.m. ET Saturday

Where: Kinnick Stadium, Iowa City

Admission: Free. Fans are invited to join Iowa and the Johnson County Crisis Center in bringing nonperishable food items for the ANF Food Bank Drive. Collection bins will be found at all the open entrances to the stadium. The west and south stands are open for seating, and fans can enter through Gates A, F and G. Free parking is available in all university lots around the stadium.

TV: Streaming at BTN2Go.com

Weather forecast: Mostly sunny, high of 73 degrees, winds at 15 mph

What to watch for: The Hawkeyes will pit the offense against the defense and use a modified scoring system that, in addition to standard scores, awards points for explosion plays (runs of 12 of more yards, passes of 16 or more yards), takeaways, three-and-outs, quarterback "sacks" and sudden changes (when the offense starts inside the 35-yard line and is held to a field goal or no points). Check out the points breakdown here.

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AP Photo/Scott A. MillerIowa coaches like the versatility of receiver Matt VandeBerg.
Iowa typically doesn't reveal much during its spring scrimmages, and most of the key spots are nailed down, such as at quarterback (Jake Rudock) and middle linebacker (Quinton Alston). The event provides fans a chance to check out the new linebackers, led by Alston but also featuring Travis Perry and Reggie Spearman.

The Hawkeyes look very solid up front but must fill holes at both free safety, where Jordan Lomax and Anthony Gair are competing, and at one cornerback spot, where Maurice Fleming and Sean Draper are listed as co-starters on the latest depth chart. Defensive coordinator Phil Parker said this week that John Lowdermilk is trying to hold off Nico Law at strong safety.

The receivers have generated buzz this spring as Iowa continues to ramp up the tempo, seeking explosiveness on offense. Familiar names such as Kevonte Martin-Manley, Tevaun Smith and Jacob Hillyer are back, but fans can get a glimpse of redshirt freshman Derrick Willies, a 6-foot-4 perimeter threat, as well as sophomore Matt VandeBerg, who has received high marks from the coaches. Offensive coordinator Greg Davis said VandeBerg can line up at more than one wideout spot.

Line play should be Iowa's strength this season -- as it is with the Hawkeyes' better teams under Kirk Ferentz -- so it will be interesting to see the top players work in the scrimmage. There's some competition at one defensive end spot between Mike Hardy and Nate Meier, and the left offensive guard position remains fluid.

Again, it's Iowa, so don't expect any major revelations Saturday. But the forecast looks great and fans should be geared up for a team that carries higher expectations into 2014.
The spring football odyssey in the Big Ten wraps up this weekend, as the final three spring games will take place Saturday. As we've done with the previous 11, we're going to preview each event. Let's take a look at the defending Big Ten champion Michigan State Spartans' spring fling:

When: 2 p.m. ET Saturday

Where: Spartan Stadium, East Lansing, Mich.

Admission: Free. Fans may also purchase press box seats for $75 (deadline is noon today). Stadium gates A, B, C, D and G open at 12:30 p.m. The first 30,000 fans will receive a commemorative 2013 championship team poster, and the team will be honored at halftime. Fans are invited to take photos with the 2013 Legends Division, Big Ten championship game and Rose Bowl championship trophies from 11:30 a.m. to 2 p.m. near the southwest ramp of Spartan Stadium, adjacent to Gate C.

TV: Big Ten Network (live).

Weather forecast: Mostly sunny, with a high near 56 degrees.

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Joe Robbins/Getty ImagesMichigan State's spring game festivities allow Mark Dantonio's Spartans to celebrate the past and look forward to the future.
What to watch for: This is a spring game but also -- as you can tell by the festivities -- a celebration of the Spartans' 2013 championship run. Head coach Mark Dantonio has said he wants 50,000 fans to show up because "that's where this program needs to go." That would be more than double the estimated turnout from a year ago, but the weather looks much better for Saturday than it did for the '13 spring game.

The team held its annual player draft on Wednesday afternoon, and the White team ended up with starting quarterback Connor Cook. Redshirt freshman Damion Terry, whom fans were clamoring for early last season, will see time at quarterback for both teams. It will be fascinating to see how the Spartans incorporate him this fall.

Other things to watch for include a new-look defense that is replacing six starters, including four All-Big Ten performers. Linebacker will be a particular area of curiosity, with Max Bullough and Denicos Allen gone and younger players such as Jon Reschke, Riley Bullough and Shane Jones pushing for playing time. Redshirt freshman safety Jalyn Powell was the surprise first draft pick among the safeties, ahead of veterans RJ Williamson and Demetrious Cox, so he obviously has the respect of his teammates.

Offensively, Michigan State returns the nucleus from last season's squad, although there will be some new faces on the offensive line. Tight end Jamal Lyles has turned a lot of heads this spring and could be unleashed on Saturday.

Regardless of how the spring game goes, Spartans fans should have plenty of reasons to smile this weekend.
We've been recapping all the spring game action in the Big Ten from over the weekend, and we're going to keep the Northwestern entry short and sweet.

Not because we have anything against the Wildcats. It's just that they didn't have an actual spring game. Because of injuries, head coach Pat Fitzgerald held a regular practice for his 15th session of the spring on Saturday.

Or at least it was supposed to be a regular practice, until storm clouds forced the team to rush indoors halfway through the drills.

"With the storm coming in,” Fitzgerald said, “we had to adjust quickly, which was a good challenge for the guys. And I thought the guys came back and finished practice well.”

You can find some coverage of the day's practice here and here. Because it wasn't a spring game, there is no star of the game or stats to report.

A big issue remains the defensive line, which had four key contributors out this spring.

"That is a major work in progress," Fitzgerald said. "I like what the guys did this spring, but there's no way, shape or form that we're ready to make any analysis there. I'd say the same thing at running back with the guys being out. Then we've got to get some things solidified in the kicking game."

There might not be another Big Ten team that will have to get more done early in fall camp than the injury-riddled Wildcats.

Spring game recap: Minnesota

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So much spring-game goodness on Saturday. We're recapping all the action today, and now it's time to review the Minnesota Golden Gophers' spring fling.

The team held a 70-minute scrimmage before about 5,000 fans at TCF Bank Stadium. You can find coverage of the day's events here, here and here.

Star of the game: Redshirt freshman Berkley Edwards ran 11 times for 46 yards and had the day's only touchdown on a 19-yard scamper.

How it went down: Gophers fans were hoping to see major improvement from an offense that sputtered down the stretch last season but witnessed the team reaching the end zone only one time.

"That's why you get this out of your system now," head coach Jerry Kill joked about the poor offensive showing.

It was only a spring game, and Kill believes the team did make progress on that side of the ball during its 15 spring practice sessions. But that wasn't really evident on Saturday.

Starting quarterback Mitch Leidner led the offense on six drives against the second-team defense, which led to just two field goals and an interception. Jalen Myrick made the pick on a play in which Drew Wolitarsky was open but Leidner underthrew the ball.

“I thought at times we put good drives together; we’ve just got to finish,” said Leidner, who was 7-for-15 for 74 yards. "And there were a couple times when me and the receivers have to get on the same page. But I mean, that’s why we’ve got however many months to work on that.”

Edwards was a bright spot, and Rodrick Williams Jr. ran for 52 yards on nine carries. Sophomore tight end Duke Anyanwu led all receivers with three catches for 19 yards.

The defense had a solid day with four sacks and that interception by Myrick. Linebackers Chris Wipson, De'Niro Laster and Nick Rallis each had seven stops.

But more than half of the projected starters on defense didn't play, including tackle Cameron Botticelli. Kill said he is out for 5 to 6 weeks with a broken foot. With the defense down so many players, it was disappointing that the offense didn't take advantage. The passing game remains an obvious area of need this summer for the Gophers.

Spring game recap: Indiana

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We're recapping all the spring game action from over the weekend today. Next up: Indiana.

The Cream team beat the Crimson 24-14 before a crowd of 9,200 at sunny Memorial Stadium. You can find coverage of the game here, here and here.

Star of the game: Wide receiver Shane Wynn had five catches for 141 yards and one touchdown.

How it went down: Wynn took some grief for his choices and deliberation during Friday's player draft but delivered a big game that included catches of 60 and 56 yards, plus a 16-yard touchdown, all from Tre Roberson.

"I always trust Shane,” Roberson said. “We talk before when we’re on the sideline. If he knows he can go deep, we’ll just look at each other. We’ll send him deep, and I’ll throw the ball as far as I can. He’s so fast. You can’t really out-throw him.”

Looking for some clarity on who the starting QB might be? Don't bother. Head coach Kevin Wilson is fine with playing two guys, and there's little to separate the duo of Roberson and Nate Sudfeld. Roberson went 10-of-22 for 176 yards and an interception and also had a 65-yard scoring run, while Sudfeld was 29-of-40 for 273 yards with one score and two picks.

"We better manage the quarterback deal good," Wilson said. "That's my job. And I attack it in a positive way with those guys.”

Star tailback Tevin Coleman took only three carries but gained 61 yards. Anthony Davis added 41 yards on five carries with a 30-yard score, and Myles Graham had two touchdown runs.

The Cream team averaged better than nine yards per carry, which is not a great sign for the defense. But the Hoosiers like the progress on that side of the ball. Defensive tackle Nate Hoff led all defenders with seven tackles, plus a sack, while sophomore corner Rashard Fant had six tackles, an interception and a pass breakup. They're both backups, and Indiana is hopeful that more depth and competition will lead to a better overall defense this season.

“I’ve been coaching at a lot of different places, and this is as physical a spring as I’ve ever been a part of, as far as just the fundamentals of teaching guys to get off blocks,” new defensive coordinator Brian Knorr said.

Spring game preview: Indiana

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Ten league squads wrap up spring practice this weekend, and we’re taking a look at each spring game or scrimmage. Next up: Indiana.

When: 3 p.m. ET Saturday

Where: Memorial Stadium

Admission: Free. Fans are asked to enter the East side of the stadium and to sit in the East stands. Gates 4, 5 and 6 will be open. There will be a youth clinic from 1:30 to 2:30 p.m. for kids 12 and a pre-game tailgate party from 1:30 to 2:45 p.m., with free food for the first 3,000 fans in attendance or while supplies last.

TV: Streamed live on BTN2Go.com.

Weather forecast: Mostly sunny, with a high near 76.

What to watch for: Coach Kevin Wilson will have the seniors draft teams this afternoon, though he said some players could end up playing for both the Crimson and Cream squads at times. This won't actually be the end of Indiana's spring session, as the Hoosiers will have one more practice next week.

IU has the kind of explosive offense that can make the spring game fun, and since Nate Sudfeld and Tre Roberson still are virtually even, both teams in the game are guaranteed to have a good quarterback. Wilson is looking for some wide receivers to step forward and replace the production of departed top targets Cody Latimer, Kofi Hughes and Ted Bolser. Shane Wynn has moved from slot to the outside this spring and will be one of the go-to guys, but most everyone else is unproven and still needs to learn how to make the tough, competitive catches. The tight end position has been hampered by injuries this spring.

But scoring and moving the ball shouldn't be a problem for the Hoosiers. Fans want to know if the defense, which has struggled mightily for three years under Wilson, has made any strides. There's a new boss on that side of the ball in Brian Knorr, who will use a 3-4 base that incorporates several different looks and fronts. Ten starters are back on defense, though safeties Mark Murphy and Antonio Allen have been held out of contact work this spring, creating reps for youngsters there. The Indiana defense has some beef up front and improving group of linebackers, but it still has a whole lot to prove.

That's why this is one instance where a low-scoring spring game might actually provide some optimism, because if the Hoosiers can stop their own offense, that's saying something.

Spring game preview: Minnesota

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Ten league squads wrap up spring practice this weekend, and we’re taking a look at each spring game or scrimmage. Next up: Minnesota.

When: 3:30 p.m. ET Saturday

Where: TCF Bank Stadium

Admission: Free. Gates open at 1:30 p.m. ET. There will be a Gopher football alumni football game from 2-3 p.m. ET, and former players will sign autographs in the west plaza after the game.

TV: Streamed live on BTN2Go.com. The game will be also shown Sunday at 6:30 p.m. on Big Ten Network.

Weather forecast: Mostly cloudy, with a high near 67. Chance of precipitation is 70 percent, though most of the rain is predicted for the morning.

What to watch for: One of the Gophers' biggest goals for this offseason was to develop more playmakers, especially in the passing game. So it would be very encouraging to see the offense come up with some explosive plays during the spring game.

Mitch Leidner has established himself as the clear No. 1 quarterback, and the team is hoping young receivers Drew Wolitarsky and Donovahn Jones continue to make strides, along with a deep crew at tight end (Maxx Williams is out with a knee injury). The Gophers could also use a few more home runs in their rushing attack, and perhaps redshirt freshman Berkley Edwards, who broke off a 50-yard scoring run in last week's scrimmage, can provide that. Offensive coordinator Matt Limegrover knows he can still pound the ball with veteran backs David Cobb and Donnell Kirkwood, plus Leidner. Top recruit Jeff Jones is also on the way.

If Minnesota's offense can move the ball effectively against its own defense, that's a reason for optimism. Despite losing star defensive tackle Ra'Shede Hageman and defensive back Brock Vereen, coordinator Tracy Claeys can call on a pretty experienced crew. Claeys would like to see a leap forward from his linebacker group, which lost seniors Aaron Hill and James Manuel but returns guys like Damien Wilson, De'Vondre Campbell and Jack Lynn who saw action last season. Replacing Hageman will probably require a group effort, but the coaching staff likes the potential of Scott Ekpe and Cameron Botticelli inside.

All in all, the team probably has fewer question marks going into this spring game than any previous ones under Jerry Kill. That's why hopes are high in Minneapolis.
We're previewing all of the Big Ten spring games, even the ones that are not quite spring games, like Northwestern's practice on Saturday.

When: 11 a.m. ET
Where: Ryan Field
Admission: Free. Stadium gates will open at 10 a.m. ET
TV: Big Ten Network (live)
Weather forecast: Partly sunny, with a high near 68. Wind 10 to 15 mph.

What to watch for: Just like last year, the Wildcats won’t hold an actual spring game. Instead, their 15th session of the spring will be just like a regular practice, except that fans will be invited to attend.

And, no, they didn’t scrap the spring game because of union demands. Pat Fitzgerald’s team is simply too banged up to field two squads and go at it in any kind of live scrimmage. Northwestern opened spring drills with 11 players sidelined because of injuries, including potential starting defensive linemen Sean McEvilly, Deonte Gibson and Ifeadi Odenigbo, cornerback Daniel Jones and star running back Venric Mark.

Because of the injuries, Fitzgerald hasn’t really been able to have scrimmages all spring and says he’ll have to hold some during two-a-days in August to get his players up to speed.

There will still be some story lines to watch Saturday, and in fact, you may learn more from a regular practice effort than you would from most vanilla, fan-friendly spring exhibitions. Fitzgerald has said this is quarterback Trevor Siemian’s team, which means the offense should be fairly reliant on the passing game and not so much the option. At receiver, transfer Miles Shuler has earned praise, and the oft-injured Kyle Prater has had a nice spring, Fitzgerald said this week. It's just about now or never for Prater.

Collin Ellis has moved to middle linebacker, and there's a pretty good competition for his old spot on the outside, with Jimmy Hall and Drew Smith battling it out.

Mostly, though, the Wildcats and their fans are happy to see a day that should be all about football after their spring was dominated by union talk. The vote still looms, but at least on Saturday, the team can just practice, even if it's not a traditional spring game.

Spring game recap: Michigan

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Spring (practice) has officially sprung for Michigan, which became the first Big Ten team to hold its spring game on Saturday at the Big House.

An estimated crowd of 15,000 took in the festivities, which included a non-scoring scrimmage. You can find coverage of the game here, here and here. And here's a brief recap:

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Rick Osentoski/USA TODAY SportsQuarterback Devin Gardner threw two interceptions and completed just two passes in the Wolverines' spring game.
Star of the game: Cornerback Jourdan Lewis had two interceptions on the day, though he was also whistled for two pass interference penalties.

How it went down: It was just a spring game, and as most teams are wont to do, the Wolverines kept things very vanilla for their first public practice session of the year.

Still, fans had hoped to see some inklings of progress, especially from the new offense led by coordinator Doug Nussmeier, who was hired away from Alabama in the winter. Players had talked about making more big plays in practice in Nussmeier's scheme.

There wasn't much evidence of that on Saturday. On the very first snap of the scrimmage, Devin Gardner was intercepted by Lewis in his own territory. Gardner -- still not 100 percent on his healing foot -- would finish just 2-for-10 for 53 yards, though he's in no danger of losing the job. Backup Shane Morris went 5-for-11 for 73 yards, and his final throw was also picked off by Lewis, who started at corner and made a nice impression in that competition. (He'll need to keep doing that this summer, since Jabrill Peppers is on the way).

"I definitely think we're going to be tighter on offenses this year," Lewis said afterward. "We are playing more man-to-man and we'll be closer to those guys to break it up or intercept it."

The one big play was a 44-yard strike from Gardner to Freddy Canteen, the early enrollee who has been the talk of the spring in Ann Arbor. He looks like the real deal and will likely earn a starting job at receiver.

The running game produced mixed results. De'Veon Smith got the most reps with the first unit, running nine times for 21 yards. Derrick Green added 16 yards on six carries, while Justice Hayes had six attempts for 33 yards. The offensive line, which included early enrollee Mason Cole as the first-team left tackle, struggled to open up holes and get a push up front. The defense registered five sacks, including one each from defensive linemen Frank Clark, Brennen Beyer and Willie Henry.

"Inconsistent" is how coach Brady Hoke described the offensive performance.

"I think there were a couple good runs in there that they did a pretty good job with," he said. "We needed to be a little more consistent in the protection game. Through the course of the 15 practices, I think there has been some real improvements made."

Hoke has maintained all along that a team depending on many freshmen and sophomores will need some time to come together. On Saturday, they showed that in several key areas.

"There's no question," Hoke said, "we need a lot of improvement."
The first Big Ten spring game of 2014 arrives on Saturday at the Big House. Here's a quick preview of what to expect from Michigan's spring fling.

When: Saturday, 2 p.m. ET

Where: Michigan Stadium, Ann Arbor, Mich.

Admission: Free, though fans are encouraged to make donations to Mott Children's Hospital. Michigan Stadium gates open at 11 a.m., with an alumni flag football game scheduled to begin at noon. The men's lacrosse team will play Fairfield at 5 p.m.

TV: Big Ten Network (live)

Weather forecast: Partly sunny, with a high near 47. Winds 13 to 17 mph, with gusts as high as 28 mph.

What to watch for: Coach Brady Hoke said the Wolverines will hold about a 45- to 50-minute scrimmage after "a lot of individual grind work." Hoke said his team, which has only 12 seniors, still needs to work on its fundamentals in its 15th and final practice.

One position full of youth that will have a lot of eyeballs on it Saturday is the offensive line. It's a group full of freshmen and sophomores, but Hoke said he has seen improvement there. An encouraging performance by that unit in the spring game, even with as little as that means, could scale back some of the intense scrutiny and criticism.

Receiver is another spot with a lot of new faces, as Devin Funchess is the only proven returning player. True freshman Freddy Canteen has turned a lot of heads this spring in the slot, and fans will get their first look at him in a Michigan uniform. Fans will be curious to see the offense in general under new coordinator Doug Nussmeier. Hoke said about 80 to 85 percent of Nussmeier's offense has been installed this spring, and he said there were a lot of explosive plays in last weekend's scrimmage. The offense should include much more north-south running, and a slimmed-down Derrick Green and De'Veon Smith should lead the way.

On defense, the public gets its first view of the new linebacker arrangement, with Jake Ryan moving into the middle and James Ross III at the strongside spot. Defensive coordinator Greg Mattison has talked about a more aggressive approach that will feature more blitzing, but don't expect to see much more than the usual vanilla spring schemes.

Devin Gardner seems to have answered any questions about whether he'd retain the starting quarterback job by going through the spring on a foot that isn't 100 percent healed from the Ohio State game. Shane Morris and Wilton Speight should get plenty of reps on Saturday as well.

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