Bulls: ACL
One year later, Rose injury still fresh
April, 28, 2013
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By Staff | ESPNChicago.com
Jonathan Daniel/Getty ImagesIt's been one year since Derrick Rose tore his ACL, and for some it feels like it was yesterday.There was 1:19 remaining in the fourth quarter of Game 1 of the Eastern Conference quarterfinals when Rose drove into the lane and jump-stopped. The grimace on his face was immediate as he tried to jump for a shot before crashing to the court holding his left knee.
The United Center fell silent as the worse was expected and later verified. Rose tore his ACL and would undergo surgery on May 12. The Bulls won Game 1 but would go on to lose to the eighth-seeded Philadelphia 76ers in six games.
The prognosis was for Rose to take 8-12 months to rehabilitate and the process seemed to be going according to plan as periodic reports reflected steady progress. From doing basketball drills to practicing to taking full contact to scrimmaging five-on-five starting on Feb.18, Rose appeared poised to return after the All-Star break.
But suddenly the possibility that he wouldn't return this season started to surface in stories and interviews, and now it appears almost certain he won't be back at all this season.
ESPNChicago.com's Nick Friedell talked to many of those who were present at the time of the injury, and here are their stories:
Joakim Noah
"I just remember being up like 20 points and thinking we were going to win the championship. Even when he went down, it was weird but in my mind I was like, 'He could be out for a couple weeks and we'll be alright. We'll be ready for him to come back.'
"I even remember after the game I went to the Berto Center to go get some ice and get some treatment, I never do that, I was just so into it and then when I heard the news ... it was just hard. You know how hard we work every day, so to see him go down like that was tough. Not just for us as players but for the whole city."
“When you first saw him on the ground what were you thinking?” -- Joakim Noah
It was a dark day. It was a dark day for us. We won that playoff game but Derrick getting hurt -- I'll probably remember that day for the rest of my life.
"I just wanted to be there. Any time one of my teammates goes down I just try to be there for them. I didn't know how bad it was going to be. My mindset was more on just finishing the game and seeing him after."
How did you find out?
"My uncle called me. I can't believe I remember all this."
What was it like when you saw him the next day?
"It was hard, man. It was hard. I don't even like talking about it to be honest with you.
"It was a dark day. It was a dark day for us. We won that playoff game but Derrick getting hurt -- I'll probably remember that day for the rest of my life."
Carlos Boozer
(Long pause) "Truthfully, it was just sad, man. I couldn't really believe it. I was hoping it wasn't that serious but it was. Seeing him cry in the locker room, that was tough because he knew what happened already. It was tough, man. It's tough to talk about."
Did you know when he went down?
"No, I didn't know. I was just hoping it wasn't that bad. Honestly, I thought it was his ankle or something and then I realized he said it was his knee, so I was just hoping it wasn't that bad to be honest."
What was that locker room like?
"It was depressing, man. It was one of the saddest locker rooms -- we just won the game -- and it was one of the saddest locker rooms I might have ever been in."
What was the next day like for you?
"Tough, man. We really just met for a couple minutes, walked through a couple things and got out of there because everybody was down still. It was kind of like a ... it was just depressing, man."
Doug Collins:
"I was right in front of our bench and I saw him come down awkwardly and I just knew what he did -- I saw the way his leg buckled -- because I had that injury. And so I knew immediately.
"... I knew he hurt his knee and I was very sad. Obviously, it changed the playoff picture in our favor. They also lost Noah in Game 3, but Derrick Rose is a shining star and a bright light in the NBA and we miss him. He plays the game the way you're supposed to play it every night. He plays to win. He's a hometown kid who loves being in Chicago and representing his city. He's got a great family. And I'm one of these guys, I want to see the best players on the floor and so I hope he's going to be healthy soon and get back out there. Will that affect us? Yeah. But that kid needs to be out there playing basketball. He's special."
Taj Gibson:
"I remember it like it was yesterday. He was in the game, we talked about the game scheme, drew up a play for him to break down the defense and probably get a running hook, running floater -- he went down the lane, got a running floater, and just came down wrong. I was hoping it wasn't even his knee. I thought it was his ankle. He always had bad ankle problems, but he hurt his knee. We got a great win but the look on everybody's face wasn't even happy about the win. We were more like hoping that he's OK. You never want to see a teammate go out like that. But just the reaction when we got the news ... most of the guys just ran in the training room and we went into the training room and you didn't see him but we saw him come out with that disappointment look on his face it was surreal and we knew that it was something serious. That's what I remember the most."
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Jonathan Daniel/Getty ImagesWhen Gar Forman saw Derrick Rose didn't collide with anyone before hitting the court, he knew it was bad.
Jonathan Daniel/Getty ImagesWhen Gar Forman saw Derrick Rose didn't collide with anyone before hitting the court, he knew it was bad.What was it like the next day?
"The next day was mellow. It was like you come in, it was quiet, real mellow and quiet. The only thing you mostly heard was the basketball. Guys just came in there and we got the news about how he was and it was cool because guys understood what they had to do but at the same time we really didn't understand like, 'What's the gameplan now?' How we got to adjust, we got to draw up different plays, we got to do different things like that. But guys were still like, 'Damn.' At the same time they were like, 'What could we have done differently? Maybe the second unit could have played a little harder, we wouldn't have had to worry about putting him back in the game.'"
"It was just a lot of stuff going on but then he was like, 'You got to man up. You got to get ready for the next game.' Things like this happen every day. But it was just tough because you go through a whole year of ups and downs, ups and downs, ups and downs, and get another blow like that to your teammate, you're like, 'Wow,' that was crazy. "
Sixers guard -- and Chicago native -- Evan Turner
"I think as big an icon as D-Rose has been to basketball and in the NBA and in Chicago, you're talking about a kid that's always been admired ... I root for every Chicago kid because you're putting on for the city and you inspire the younger kids coming up, (the injury) is traumatizing to a community. Chicago is on his back so you see him go down definitely is horrible because he's a pro's pro. You like watching him, you like seeing what he does, performing, so that was hard to watch, too."
What do you remember from that moment?
"I just thought he pulled a muscle because he didn't really react. I hear when people tear an ACL they start screaming and stuff. He didn't react or anything so I said he probably just caught a cramp because he's been playing off and on and that was it. I just figured nothing bad had happened, he never really got hurt before and then when it came out he tore his ACL, I was shocked because he didn't have any reaction."
John Paxson
"What I remember was there was excitement about the playoffs starting and us feeling that we had put ourselves in a position to make a run. And then we're sitting there just a short time away from winning Game 1 and knowing that every playoff game, that's the most important game you play, so we were going to have a 1-0 advantage.
"And then watching Derrick go down -- from that moment on I was just kind of numb -- because you knew it was bad when you saw him on the floor. And then the rest of the day was going to the hospital, staying with him and around him, and understanding that it was bad. And it was hard not to think about what that meant for our basketball team, but numb's the word to describe how I felt that day."
Gar Forman
"I remember when he first went down, because he had had several injuries during the year I thought ... I didn't have a good angle so I initially thought he had landed on someone's foot or sprained an ankle, I couldn't see that there was no one around. But then when I saw it on the TV, because we have a TV where we sit, then it was scary seeing him go down with nobody around. And then I just remember leaving the hospital and driving home and it just felt numb. That was about it."
Friedell: Learn from Taj, shut down Rose
April, 3, 2013
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Nick Friedell | ESPNChicago.com
Chris Sweda/Chicago Tribune/Getty ImagesTaj Gibson's injury could serve as a warning to those wanting Derrick Rose to return this season.Derrick Rose's decision not to return yet from May 12 ACL surgery has been well documented. Some fans are growing increasingly frustrated that after nearly 11 months of rehab Rose still hasn't returned to the floor. Especially since he has been medically cleared to do so and his team doctor, Brian Cole, said after the surgery that the final stage in the recovery process is playing in games.
Rose has admitted that he is struggling with the mental aspect of the process and still isn't comfortable with different parts of his game. Seeing Gibson, his good friend, hobble around on the same knee he's already injured once this year isn't going to help that process. But it's what Gibson said afterward that could give Rose pause.
"That's what happens when you rush back and try to help your team win," Gibson said after the Bulls' loss to the Wizards.
Ever since Rose said in February that he 'wouldn't mind' sitting out the whole season if his leg were still hurting, I got the sense that he wouldn't return this season. Seeing Gibson go down the way he did Tuesday night and hearing what he said after the game only reinforced that feeling for me.
Rose told ESPN's Chris Broussard recently that he would be open to returning to action during the playoffs, a feeling shared by Bulls head coach Tom Thibodeau. While the idea is nice and people within the organization continue to hold out hope that Rose wakes up one day and says he is ready to play -- the reality is that Gibson's injury should only accelerate the process of shutting down Rose for the season.
What are the Bulls waiting for?
Obviously, Gibson's injury isn't the same as Rose's, but there are parallels. Can you imagine the wrath the organization would feel if they allowed Rose to come back with just nine regular-season games left and he were to re-injure himself? Gibson's injury should serve a reality check for the Bulls' front office. No matter how much they may like to see Rose back on the floor, and no matter how many times they say it would be good for him to get some game action under his belt, why are they even keeping open the possibility at this point?
If Rose doesn't feel like he's mentally or physically ready to play, then that should be the end of it. The constant distraction regarding Rose's status is just unnecessary at this point. The idea of Rose coming back and playing during a lost season in which the Bulls have already suffered a slew of different injuries to key players doesn't make much sense for all involved.
The argument that Rose should be treated the same way as any other player is laughable. Of course Rose is going to be treated differently. He is the future of the franchise. He's a commodity that companies such as the Bulls and adidas have hundreds of millions of dollars tied up in. Is the risk of having him play this season really worth allowing him to go back on the floor when there's pretty much no chance he will be able to get into any kind of rhythm with his teammates?
One of the other popular arguments is -- Why should Rose come back next year given that the Bulls roster figures to look very much the same and they still likely won't be able to beat the Heat? The difference there is that Rose will have six more months of rehab to get his body and his mind back on the same page. All of his teammates will be on the same page in training camp, and there's a much better chance that all of them will be healthy. Will they be able to beat the Heat in a seven game series? It's still not likely -- but the odds are much higher given that the team would have a full compliment of healthy players and a reinvigorated Rose running the ship.
What about Joakim Noah, Luol Deng and Gibson -- the guys who have played through injury all season as Rose continues his rehab?
The answer there is simple as well. If Noah, Deng and Gibson don't feel like they are healthy enough to play -- they shouldn't play. This is actually a point that Thibodeau fundamentally agrees with. He talked about this during a pregame conversation with the media regarding his stance on resting guys in advance of the playoffs
"Respecting the game is very, very important," he said. "But I also think you have the obligation if a guy is hurt or hurting and it's best to give him the rest, then you do that. In my eyes you do what's right. You do what's right for the game."
Rose, Noah, Deng and Gibson are the future of the organization. The last thing the Bulls need is to rush one of them back when they don't feel as if they're ready in a season that in which the writing has been on the wall since last summer that this team wasn't built to win a title this season.
The Bulls learned a lesson with Gibson's injury Tuesday night -- they don't need to make the same mistake twice with Rose. If he says he's not ready to play then end the drama and speculation right now and say that he's out for the season. The risk of putting him back out on the floor when he doesn't feel like himself isn't worth any potential reward this team could garner over the next month or two with an already depleted roster.
Podcast: Broussard's gut feeling on Derrick
March, 28, 2013
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By Staff | ESPNChicago.com
ESPN's Chris Broussard had a chance to talk with Derrick Rose before Wednesday's game, and Broussard tells Colin Cowherd what his gut feeling is about Rose possibly returning this season.
"I talked to him last night before the game. He said he feels great. He said he feels great. He said he's incredibly confident. He sounded like he was ready.
"I talked to him last night before the game. He said he feels great. He said he feels great. He said he's incredibly confident. He sounded like he was ready.
LeBron: Decision to return all up to D-Rose
March, 27, 2013
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Scott Powers | ESPNChicago.com
Getty ImagesLeBron James misses Derrick Rose, but he understands being patient with his injury.King: Rose 'explosive,' return seems near
March, 15, 2013
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By Staff | ESPNChicago.com
AP Photo/Eric GayStacey King said Derrick Rose looked explosive during a workout Wednesday in Sacramento."He's coming back. I don't know when. He's coming back," King said on "The Carmen & Jurko Show" on ESPN 1000 on Thursday. "He's coming back for this season.
"I wouldn't be surprised, me personally, this is just my hunch -- I'm not a doctor and I didn't sleep at Holiday Inn either -- but I think it's going to be very quickly. I think it's going to be in the next week to 10 days."
As ESPNChicago.com reported last week, Rose has been cleared by his doctor to play, according to a team source. Rose told reporters on Tuesday he's doing everything on the court but he still needed to regain the confidence he had before tearing his left ACL on April 28 and having surgery on May 12.
Thibs: Derrick 'unlikely' to play Friday
March, 14, 2013
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Nick Friedell | ESPNChicago.com
OAKLAND, Calif. -- Chicago Bulls head coach Tom Thibodeau said Thursday it's "unlikely" point guard Derrick Rose will make his season debut Friday night against the Golden State Warriors, but Thibodeau did acknowledge that he likes the way Rose continues to progress from a torn left ACL.
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Video: Bell: Final phase of rehab is in-game
March, 13, 2013
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By Staff | ESPNChicago.com
Friedell: Sensing Rose won't return
February, 14, 2013
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Nick Friedell | ESPNChicago.com
Jared Wickerham/Getty ImagesDerrick Rose has a lot to consider as he decides whether to come back this season.That's the sense I got after listening to Rose speak for the first time in over four months to local reporters on Wednesday night. It doesn't sound like he's mentally in a place where he feels comfortable being back on the floor right now.
Rose: I don't mind missing this year
February, 14, 2013
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Nick Friedell | ESPNChicago.com
BOSTON -- Chicago Bulls point guard Derrick Rose reiterated Wednesday night there is a chance he will sit out the entire season as he recovers from surgery to fix a torn ACL in his left knee.
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Rose taking full contact in practice
January, 30, 2013
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Nick Friedell | ESPNChicago.com
MILWAUKEE -- Chicago Bulls coach Tom Thibodeau said Wednesday that Derrick Rose is now taking "full contact" and the only thing left in his return from ACL surgery is putting in more time and then getting acclimated to a game situation.
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Rose starting to take contact in practice
January, 8, 2013
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Nick Friedell | ESPNChicago.com
DEERFIELD, Ill. -- Chicago Bulls point guard Derrick Rose has started to take some contact in practice as he continues his rehab from a torn ACL in his left knee.
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Thibs: Rose long ways away from practicing
December, 4, 2012
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Nick Friedell | ESPNChicago.com
Chicago Bulls coach Tom Thibodeau said Tuesday that Derrick Rose is still a "long ways" from practicing, and he was non-committal about Rose practicing before the new year.
"Who knows?" Thibodeau said after Tuesday's shootaround. "He's a long ways away from that, but he's doing well. He's doing well."
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Hardaway: Rose shouldn't rush return
September, 21, 2012
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By Jared Zwerling | ESPNChicago.com
Andy Hayt/NBAE via Getty ImagesTim Hardaway knows the challenges Derrick Rose faces because his game was similar.Hardaway thinks Rose should sit out the entire 2012-13 season.
"I'd just rather have him take his time, so he can be 100 percent, because he's like me, running and jumping," Hardaway told ESPNNewYork.com on Thursday. Hardaway pointed out that his injury was similar to Rose's, a freak, non-contact injury on a routine play. Hardaway was going up for a layup on March 3, 1993 against the Los Angeles Lakers when he tore his left ACL, and he missed the entire next season. Rose jump-stopped to shoot his trademark floater in the fourth quarter of Game 1 in the first round of last season's playoffs against the Philadelphia 76ers.
AP Photo/Nam Y. HuhDerrick Rose visited Dr. James Andrews, but sources said it was routine.
Michael Wilbon joined "Waddle & Silvy" and discussed what he's heard about Derrick Rose's rehab from knee surgery. ESPN Chicago reported that Rose traveled to Alabama on Tuesday to consult Dr. James Andrews, but sources said it was a routine visit.
Dr. Brian Cole, who performed the surgery on Rose, said later Wednesday that Rose is "ahead of schedule".
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Chicago Bulls guard Derrick Rose will be out at least 8-12 months after undergoing surgery to repair his left ACL, said Dr. Brian Cole, who performed the surgery on Saturday.
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It was a dark day. It was a dark day for us. We won that playoff game but Derrick getting hurt -- I'll probably remember that day for the rest of my life. 

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