Sabermetrics? Hawk prefers TWTW

April, 25, 2013
4/25/13
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Levine By Bruce Levine
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Ken HarrelsonJerry Lai/US PresswireHawk Harrelson may have inspired a new ad campaign for the Sox with his "TWTW."
Chicago White Sox announcer Ken "Hawk" Harrelson may have started a new ad campaign for the team when he offered "the will to win" -- TWTW -- as an alternative to sabermetrics.

Harrelson engaged in an animated live TV discussion with MLB network host Brian Kenny on Thursday. The argument was over the use of sabermetrics and the intrinsic value of stats as the final determination for evaluating players.

Harrelson became animated during the heated discussion that took place via a live hookup from U.S Cellular Field.

Some of the highlights included Harrelson quotes:
  • "TWTW. The will to win. You can’t put numbers on those things."

  • "The more numbers you have, the more information you put in the game, the more instincts you take out of the game."

  • "How are you going to accumulate a team W if the pitcher doesn't get his W?"

  • "TWTW is going to supersede anything sabermetrics brings in."

  • "Numbers are the most overrated thing in baseball."

    Harrelson and Kenny ended the discussion by saying they liked each other but agreed to disagree.

    "The good thing about sabermetrics is they have created an interest in some fans who were not baseball fans before," Harrelson told ESPNChicago.com.

    As far as "TWTW," Sox outfielder Alex Rios tweeted it after the interview, and the Sox made up T-shirts with the slogan and sold them at U.S. Cellular Field on Thursday.

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Chicago baseball beat reporter
Bruce Levine has covered sports in Chicago for over 28 years and hosts "Talkin' Baseball," heard Saturday mornings on ESPN 1000.

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