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NEW YORK -- Iman Shumpert got his Knicks teammates jumping out of their seats on the bench when he shook Paul Pierce, who lost his footing and stumbled to the floor.

Later, Toure' Murry threw an alley-oop pass off the glass to a trailing Shumpert for a rim-rattling dunk.

Giddy Knicks fans who made the trek across the river to Barclays stood and applauded Mike Woodson’s team at the end of a 109-98 win over the Nets.

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AP Photo/Frank Franklin IIThe Nets rose above the Knicks for New York supremacy this season.
The Knicks wanted this game more. And throttling a completely disinterested Nets team gave them and their fans a sense of satisfaction for at least one night.

“Hell yeah,” Knicks shooter J.R. Smith said of whether beating the Nets meant something to him. “I’m cool with some of those guys over there, so I can still say something when we’re in the gym this summer.

“As long as I can say they didn’t beat us that many times, then we’re good.”

The Knicks won the season series from the Nets 3-1. And they won the three games by an average of 23.3 points.

But the Nets won the battle of which team is the best in town. That’s because the Knicks’ summer starts on Thursday. While the Knicks clean out their lockers, the Nets will be preparing for a playoff series this weekend.

“Good for us, good for our brand, good for Brooklyn basketball," point guard Deron Williams told reporters on Tuesday morning about being the last New York team standing this season. "It's part of the takeover."

Forget all the talk last offseason about how the Nets will convert Knicks fans into Brooklyn fans and run this town.

A Nets takeover will take years to complete, and it will take years of winning consistently. And even if the Knicks kept losing, the Nets would likely have to win a championship to seriously steal fans away from the Knicks.

But what really matters right now is that the Nets are the ones playing in the postseason. After Wednesday’s regular-season finale against the Toronto Raptors, the Knicks and Phil Jackson officially start focusing their attention on keeping Carmelo Anthony.

That, of course, would have been made easier if the Knicks were contending for a championship. When this season began, there was so much excitement about how good of a year it was going to be for New York hoops.

The Knicks, coming off a 54-win season, were looking to take a step forward. The Nets traded for Pierce and Kevin Garnett and had legit championship aspirations for the first time since Jason Kidd was throwing alley-oops off the glass to Kenyon Martin against the Knicks.

But both teams got off to dreadful starts. Only one team got its act together after New Year’s Eve. And now only one team in the area moves on.

And that’s a crusher for the Knicks, who will have to watch the Nets play on TV.

“I’m a basketball guy, I watch basketball, that's what I do,” Woodson said. “This year is going to be tough, sitting at home watching basketball. I didn't envision that happening with our team. That's going to be the tough part behind it. I'll watch Jason. I wish all coaches nothing but the best.”

Anthony, who didn’t play due to his injured shoulder, would probably pay max money to trade places with Paul Pierce and the Nets.

“It’s that time of year when you get the chills,” he said. “It’s that sort of time when the weather is getting warmer. It’s an exciting time of year. Everybody loves being in the playoffs.”

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AP Photo/Frank Franklin IIThe Knicks smothered the Nets Tuesday in Brooklyn.
Pierce was frustrated after the loss, but not because the Knicks were running and dunking all over the Nets. While Kidd has been resting select players for the past few games to stay healthy, the Nets are playing like it’s the preseason right now.

“Going into the playoffs, you want to start building habits and tonight was an example of how not to take a step forward,” Pierce said. “We were off our game -- offensively, defensively, all phases of the game. That is not how you want to go into the playoffs. No excuses about it. We got to be better.”

At least the Nets still have a chance to do something about the way they’ve been playing. After Wednesday, the Knicks can’t do anything more about the 2013-14 season.

As Pierce said, it’s that special time of the year. The Knicks can feel good about stomping the Nets one last time for this season before going fishing.

The Nets? They got bigger fish to fry than the Knicks.

And that’s all you need to know about who won the battle of New York this season.

Knicks-Nets rivalry in intensive care

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EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- Some rivalry.

The Brooklyn Nets and New York Knicks have played three games so far this season.

All three of those games have been blowouts.

Now, on Tuesday night, with basically nothing to play for, it looks like both teams are going to sit most of their key players. I’d hate to be a fan who paid top-dollar hoping this would be a prime late-season matchup.

Here’s your injury report (Kind of reminds me of football):

Nets

Out: Shaun Livingston (toe), Alan Anderson (abdominal muscle), Mirza Teletovic (personal).

In: Deron Williams (knee), Paul Pierce (shoulder), Joe Johnson (calf)

Knicks

Out: Carmelo Anthony (shoulder)

In: Amar'e Stoudemire

Asked where the Nets-Knicks rivalry is at, Nets coach Jason Kidd replied, “At an all-time high.”

Reporters laughed. The interview ended.

As for his team’s next two games, Kidd said the biggest thing was making sure his team is healthy.

“We’ll see who can go tonight and who can go tomorrow,” he said.

Kidd on Knicks: I was small piece of puzzle

April, 14, 2014
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Ask anybody why the 2013-14 New York Knicks failed and they'll say the same thing:

The Knicks missed Jason Kidd.

Sure, they missed other veterans, too. But it was Kidd who stabilized them, who led them, who enabled them to get off to such a great start in 2012-13.

Yet when told of this on ESPN NY 98.7 FM's "The Michael Kay Show" on Monday, Kidd, now the rookie head coach of the playoff-bound Brooklyn Nets, politely disagreed.

“I was just one piece of the puzzle, a very small piece at that,” Kidd said. “I really enjoyed my time with the Knicks, and we had a great run. We came up short. We felt we could’ve made a run a little bit longer, but I had a great group of guys to play with and a great coach in [Mike Woodson]. I’m not the piece that’s missing.”

Was Kidd surprised the Knicks missed the playoffs after winning 54 games a season ago?

“It’s funny because everybody has injuries, and different teams handle them differently,” Kidd said. “The Knicks, they’re a very talented team. Unfortunately, they didn’t make the playoffs, but they’ll be back. They have a great player, one of the best players on the planet in [Carmelo Anthony]. And now they have a new president, Phil Jackson, so they’ll turn it around.”

The irony in all of this is, the 2013-14 Nets look and play a whole lot like the 2012-13 Knicks. Consider:

Two point guards in the starting lineup? Check. (Kidd and Pablo Prigioni versus Deron Williams and Shaun Livingston)

Using a stretch forward instead of a power forward? Check. (Anthony versus Paul Pierce)

Reliance on the 3-point shot? Check. (28.9 attempts/37.6 percent versus 23.4 attempts/36.9 percent)

Trying to limit turnovers and force them on the defensive end? Check. (988 turnovers/672 steals versus 1,155 turnovers/686 steals)

Playing at a slow pace? Check. (89.8 possessions used per game versus 91.4 possessions used per game)

Pretty crazy, when you think about it.

Former Knick Metta World Peace, cut loose by the team during the season, said this back in February: “I spoke to a lot of people, and a lot of people are saying Jason Kidd was the reason [for the Knicks’ poor play this year]. ... I spoke to Tyson [Chandler] about it, and Tyson said Jason Kidd used to do a lot of adjustments on the court. So that was an issue that we had this year with Jason Kidd becoming a coach. A lot of times they kept saying, ‘We miss that presence of Jason Kidd.’”

Nets get payback, Knicks must learn from it

January, 20, 2014
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NEW YORK –- What started as a faint “BROOK-LYN” chant grew louder and louder late in the second half at Madison Square Garden on Monday.

The Brooklyn Nets were delivering a beatdown to the New York Knicks, and the Brooklyn fans on hand provided a soundtrack to complete the 103-80 thrashing.

“We talked about it, called it ‘the payback game,’” Joe Johnson said. “We came and responded.”

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AP Photo/Seth WenigJason Kidd appears to be figuring things out, and the return of Deron Williams certainly helps.
At the moment, the battle for New York belongs to the Nets, who continue to get better with each game in the new year. On the other side, the Knicks showed little fight on Monday.

Jason Kidd’s team is only two games better in the win column. But it feels like the distance between the two New York teams is much greater.

The Nets (17-22) are surging, having won seven of their past eight games. The Knicks (15-26) are heading in the opposite direction, and hanging by a very thin thread. After a five-game winning streak, head coach Mike Woodson’s squad has dropped four straight.

But the most disturbing thing is, the Knicks have lost the past four by an average of 18.7 points. Things are definitely unraveling.

For the second straight loss, Tyson Chandler raised the Knicks’ strategy as an issue, saying the Nets “outschemed us.” Carmelo Anthony's frustration grows by the loss and he’s irritated by the Knicks’ lack of fight.

“That’s the only thing that kind of bothers me, today we didn’t even fight,” Anthony said. “I felt like we didn’t fight as a team. Those guys from the jump ball just came in and it felt like they owned us.”

The Knicks have dealt with their share of drama (see J.R. Smith and shoelace gate). They are fragile physically and mentally. They have key injuries and can’t take a punch right now on the court.

Sound familiar? That’s because this was the state of the Nets just more than a month ago. If the Knicks are going to make something out of their season, they have to emulate the Nets and come together like Kidd's squad has.

Back in early December, Kidd had demoted lead assistant Lawrence Frank. The Nets were rocked by injuries, and players were complaining about their roles. It was only a few weeks ago, on Christmas Day, that Kidd called out his team and Kevin Garnett stormed into the showers upset with their lack of fight.

Brooklyn seemed like it was on the verge of falling apart.

But Kidd and Garnett somehow kept the Nets from fracturing. Here they are now, winning games handily, and looking more and more like a team that will be a factor in the postseason. They are beginning to resemble the team they were supposed to be and are doing it without the injured Brook Lopez.

“The trust is there defensively and on the offensive end,” Paul Pierce said. “We have gotten to the point where nobody cares who gets the touches. The ball will always find the right players and it is evident from the last couple of games the way we make the extra passes. The ball is going to find the right person if we continue to play unselfish.”

Does that sound like the Knicks? No. But if there is one positive that can come out of Monday’s debacle, perhaps Carmelo and crew saw a blueprint of how to turn things around.

The Nets are the perfect role models for the Knicks.

A month ago, you could debate which team was a bigger mess, the Knicks or the Nets? Both teams were playing hideous basketball.

But the Nets stuck together. They began to buy into what Kidd was preaching. They followed Garnett’s lead in the locker room. Roles were defined. Joe Johnson is now the clear-cut go-to scorer. Everybody is starting to play defense, share the ball and trust one another. Players like Pierce have sacrificed ego and come off the bench at times.

On Monday, Deron Williams came off the bench and gave the Nets a spark, and it’s no coincidence Garnett and Pierce went out of their way to praise their point guard for his sacrifice and leadership. They are already looking one step ahead and leading, knowing they and the Nets need Williams to take them to the next level.

The Knicks don’t have an All-Star point guard coming back from injury to pick them up. But they can still look at the Nets and say, why not us?

The Knicks already have a go-to scorer in Anthony. Tyson Chandler can play the same interior defensive role Garnett does. The Knicks have perimeter players who can defend, such as Iman Shumpert, and guys who can hit outside shots.

The Knicks need better point guard play, but there’s no excuse why they can’t get that from Raymond Felton -- he should be able to provide what Shaun Livingston has to the Nets during their surge.

The Knicks, though, need leadership in order to come together like the Nets have. Anthony and Chandler have to grab a hold of this season before it gets away from them. And Woodson has to find a way to push all the right buttons like Kidd has since December.

Back on Dec. 5, the Knicks crushed the Nets in Brooklyn, 113-83. The Nets’ season looked like it was on life support. A month later, the Nets got their big “payback.”

“When we first played them, they embarrassed us,” Garnett said. “We wanted to come back and get sort of a payback and kind of redeem ourselves.”

Now the Knicks are coming off a humiliating loss at the hands of their city rival. They are at a crossroad. It’s the Knicks’ turn to show what they are made of, and that they have it in them to turn this embarrassing defeat into a turning point.

It can be done. Just look at the Nets.

Nets looking for payback against Knicks

January, 19, 2014
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EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- It’s been more than a month since the Knicks crushed the Nets in Brooklyn.

Other than Jason Kidd, who says he doesn’t remember the last time Brooklyn played New York, Nets players and coaches recall it clearly.

Shaun Livingston said the Nets owe the Knicks one on Monday.

“We definitely do,” the point guard said. “They came in and beat us pretty well at our place. We have to take that upon ourselves and take it personally. We’ve got to come and compete.”

The Nets didn’t do much competing the last time they saw the Knicks. The Knicks drilled the Nets 113-83. Mike Woodson’s team was red hot, burying 16 three-pointers and shooting a scorching 59.3 percent from behind the arc and 57.1 percent overall.

“They didn’t seem on fire. ... They were on fire,” Livingston said. “They hit everything. You know, guys that hadn’t been playing well were hitting shots.

"It’s going to be a big game, but we have to come out and play the same basketball that we’ve been playing. I think we’ll be fine.”

The Nets are a much different team than the one the Knicks flattened Dec. 5. They were without Deron Williams and Paul Pierce due to injuries. The loss to the Knicks was the Nets’ 12th in 15 games at that point.

“We were a different team,” Joe Johnson said. “We were depleted. We had a lot of guys who wasn’t playing. I don’t even think about it, other than we had a tough loss. But we’re a much better team right now.”

The Nets (16-22) have won six of their last seven games and are feeling much more confident. They’re playing better in almost every phase since that last encounter with the Knicks.

“I mean, looking back, those guys caught fire from behind there,” Andray Blatche said of what he remembers from that Knicks debacle. “They hit a lot of amazing shots. So, you know, we've got that in the back of our head.”

The Nets don’t have Brook Lopez like they did in early December. But Williams said he will return from a five-game absence due to his ankle injuries against the Knicks. And Pierce will play against New York as well.

“I’m looking forward to it,” Williams said of facing the Knicks. “We definitely owe these guys from the last game, and hopefully we can keep it going.”

Nets hoping D-Will can play vs. Knicks

January, 16, 2014
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Brooklyn Nets general manager Billy King hopes to get point guard Deron Williams back for Monday afternoon’s game against the New York Knicks.

“Yeah, I think we’re gonna wait and see how he feels when he gets back,” King said Thursday on SiriusXM NBARadio. “I mean, that was the goal, to try to give him two weeks off and see how he feels. I know he’s been working back at home. The goal if he’s ready to play [is Monday], if not play Tuesday, if not then it would be that Friday. But just like with [Andrei Kirilenko] we wanted to give Deron as much a chance to get healthy as possible, because we’ve still got a lot of season to go.”

Williams hasn’t played in a game since Jan. 4 due to ankle injuries. He will miss his 16th game of the season Thursday, when the Nets face the Atlanta Hawks in London.

Williams received a cortisone shot and platelet-rich plasma injection in both of his ankles following an MRI taken Jan. 6. Assuming he returns Monday against the Knicks, Williams will have been out of action for two weeks.

He also had the same procedure on his ankles last season, and it rejuvenated him.

Williams, 29, is averaging just 13.6 points and 6.9 assists in 22 games for the Nets (15-22) this season.

Stephen A.: Knicks beat Nets? Big deal

December, 6, 2013
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Everybody’s safe. For the moment.

For now, there should be no talk of coach Mike Woodson’s future. Nor should there be talk about Carmelo Anthony's imminent departure. At this moment, all that should matter is that the Knicks won a game, ended their nine-game losing streak, witnessed a fire-in-the-belly no one knew existed in Andrea Bargnani and -- oh, by the way -- have clearly dismissed the notion that they are the worst team in New York City.

That odious title disturbingly belongs to the boys in Brooklyn.

In the aftermath of the Knicks' 113-83 drubbing of the Brooklyn Nets, the only conclusion to be drawn is that there can be no conclusion drawn about the boys in Manhattan following the massacre at the Barclays Center on Thursday night.

Bargnani was hitting shots. So was Melo. So were Iman Shumpert and J.R. Smith, and even Amar'e Stoudemire and Pablo Prigioni. All told, the Knicks shot 57 percent from the field and hit 16-of-27 shots from beyond the arc, embarrassing the Nets in such alarming fashion that it provoked a cause to pause:

Maybe instead of worrying about Woodson and Anthony, we should be more concerned with Nets coach Jason Kidd and his supposed star, Deron Williams.

“We got our butts kicked,” Kidd deadpanned. “You’ve got to give the Knicks credit. They came in shooting around 32 percent. Tonight they looked like the team of last year that made a lot of 3s. When they started the game off, it didn’t seem as if they were going to miss. But we stayed the course.”

I’m glad he thinks so.

Reality, however, illuminated that neither Kidd nor the Nets, collectively, have the slightest clue what a course looks like. The Nets simply look like straight garbage right now. They can’t seem to shoot, pass or play efficiently. Periodically, they vacillate between looking slow, lethargic or soft, and with Paul Pierce and Williams both injured, Kevin Garnett appears too aged to stop the proverbial bleeding.

The Knicks, as a result, had Christmas early on Thursday night, accentuated by the fact that the Barclays Center might as well have been Madison Square Garden: At one juncture, Nets center Brook Lopez was literally booed at the free throw line in his own house as Knicks fans completely drowned out whatever faithful followers the Nets would have you believe they possess.

"I think everybody looked like they had that feeling that we were tired of losing," said Anthony, who finished with 19 points. "It showed from the tipoff."

It needed to.

Let the Knicks tell you what they want, but chaos has permeated this franchise for the past several weeks. Losers of nine straight, mired with the second-worst record in the league, Woodson was in immense trouble, no matter what the Knicks say. Rumors swirled around the league that Melo can’t wait for the summer to arrive so he can get out of here. Noise was being made about in-fighting pertaining to Shumpert's stubbornness, Smith's discipline -- on and off the court -- and Thursday night’s encounter only exacerbated the situation.

After resembling a bunch of snipers all last season, the Knicks hadn’t blitzed anyone this season. Entering the game, they hadn’t shot better than 50 percent from 3-point-range all season long. Yet, the Knicks made 63 percent of their 3s within the first three quarters. Shumpert -- of all people -- made five 3s. Even Stoudemire made five of his six shots, pausing the noise. At least momentarily.

Now, everything appears right for the Knicks entering Friday’s game versus Orlando. Suddenly, there’s light at the end of the tunnel. Just one win over the Brooklyn has quelled the negative momentum, hints of panic by the Knicks’ brass appears to have subsided, somewhat.

But it still doesn’t mean they’re out of the woods. The Knicks' next eight games are all deemed winnable, with a couple against Boston, one against an Atlanta team they’ve already beaten, plus Cleveland and Milwaukee on their schedule.

“We ended our losing streak; now it’s time to build off of this and move forward,” Woodson explained.

To do that, the Knicks will have to do most of what they did on Thursday night: be aggressive, hit shots, remain in attack mode and pray that Tyson Chandler returns quick, fast and in a hurry.

Until then, the Knicks are still a doormat -- in the pathetic Eastern Conference, for crying out loud. They entered Friday still nine games under .500, still devoid of a perimeter game and still perceived as a franchise on a fast track to irrelevancy. The kind of franchise who’ll have a new coach next season and, quite possibly, some other player to lean on outside of a star (Melo) who still may depart.

“I haven’t said I’m going anywhere and I’m not saying that now,” Melo reportedly said. “I don’t know where anyone would get that from.”

Hmmm! How about we’ve got it from a Knicks team still in possession of the third-worst record in the league.

That may not have mattered Thursday night with the Brooklyn Nets to deal with. But there are always the days ahead to consider.

Knicks, Nets ticket prices drop

December, 5, 2013
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There's a silver lining to the Knicks' and Nets' early-season struggles.

Ticket prices on the secondary market have dropped precipitously for both teams. That makes sense, because their combined record going into Thursday's "showdown" at the Barclays Center is 8-26.

Secondary prices for Thursday's game have dropped 46 percent since the beginning of the season ($383.22 to $205.94), per TiqIQ, a site that tracks secondary-market prices.

The current average price for Thursday's Knicks-Nets game is $205.94. Last season, the first Knicks-Nets meeting was $485.72.

The Knicks' average price has decreased 13 percent since the beginning of the season ($320.92 to $278.66).

The Nets' average price has decreased 17 percent since the beginning of the season ($228.51 to $189.27).

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Gallery: 10 Best Knicks-Nets Moments

December, 5, 2013
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Kevin Garnett, Brooklyn Bridge, Carmelo AnthonyGetty ImagesESPNNY.com looks back at the greatest moments in the Knicks-Nets rivalry.
The battle for the soul of the city continues Thursday night in Brooklyn. To celebrate the occasion, ESPNNewYork.com came up with the 10 most memorable moments of the rivalry.

Here's the list: Top 10 Knicks-Nets Moments

Did we hit the mark? Were we off base? Let us know in the comments section below.

Prokhorov agrees with Dolan!

December, 5, 2013
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James Dolan, Empire State Building and Mikhail ProkhorovGetty Images, AP PhotoJames Dolan was right, apparently: Mikhail Prokhorov is less patient than he is.
At least Brooklyn Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov and New York Knicks owner James Dolan can agree on one thing.

Asked about Dolan’s comment in which he said he was “more patient than Prokhorov is of his team,” the Nets owner told The New York Times via email, “I totally agree. 'Nuff said.”

Prokhorov's and Dolan’s struggling teams will meet Thursday night at Barclays Center. The Nets (5-13) have lost 11 of their past 14 games, while the Knicks (3-13) have dropped nine in a row, turning the East River Rivalry into the Least River Rivalry.

The Nets went into the season with a $190 million payroll and championship dreams, but they have been a disaster on both ends of the court -- and they have been decimated by injuries. On Tuesday, Nets coach Jason Kidd decided to “reassign” lead assistant Lawrence Frank to doing “daily reports” instead of being at practices and on the bench during games.

“We’re only a month into the season!” Prokhorov wrote to the Times. “Give it a little time. And have a little faith.”

Prokhorov and Dolan aren’t exactly best friends; the two billionaires both want to stake claim to having the best team in the city. Prokhorov referred to Dolan as “that little man” in an interview with New York Magazine last season.

Last summer, NBA commissioner David Stern brought Prokhorov and Dolan to a lunch meeting to try to make things right between the two. Dolan joked he got a “free lunch” out of the meeting.

Asked by the Times what he got out of the meeting, Prokhorov said in his email, “As logic would dictate, the check.”

It seems the tension began building back in the summer of 2010, when a massive billboard featuring Prokhorov and former Nets minority owner Jay Z -- its message: “The Blueprint for Greatness” -- went up across the street from Madison Square Garden.

“I thought they were putting me on a cereal box,” Prokhorov said in the email. “I was surprised as anybody to see that thing.”

W2W4: Nets vs. Knicks

December, 5, 2013
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The Brooklyn Nets face the New York Knicks in a matchup of teams that “stink” -- coach Jason Kidd’s words, not ours -- Thursday night at Barclays Center, as the “Least River Rivalry” resumes. Here’s what we’ll be watching for:

BOTH TEAMS STINK: Kidd said it best. And he’s right. Who would've thought it, though? Both teams came into the season with high expectations. So much for that -- at least so far. The Nets (5-13) have dropped 11 of their past 14 games, while the Knicks (3-13) have lost nine in a row. The good news? One of them is guaranteed a win. It’s not going to be a fun game to lose, though, given all the media scrutiny that will surely follow.

JUICE GONE: The Nets will be without the usual suspects: Deron Williams, Paul Pierce, Andrei Kirilenko and Jason Terry. Great. Just great. Pierce talked plenty -- endearing himself to Nets fans because of his hatred of the Knicks -- but he won’t be able to back it up. That means Brook Lopez and Joe Johnson have to step up. It also means the Nets need to play well in the third quarter. Remember: Kidd went 23-4 against the Knicks as a player. But this will be his first taste of the rivalry from the coach’s seat on the bench.

LAUGHINGSTOCK: That’s what Carmelo Anthony called the Knicks. And he’s right, too. New York has a flawed roster and it hasn't helped that Tyson Chandler has been hurt. The Nets had better close out on 3-pointers (they aren't good at that) because the Knicks take a lot of them -- 25.3 per game, to be exactly. Problem is, New York shoots just 32.2 percent from beyond the arc. That’s bad. The Nets are allowing opponents to shoot 40.3 percent from 3-point range -- worst in the NBA. Yuck. By the way, who is going to guard Anthony? He averaged 35 points in four meetings against Brooklyn last season. Good luck.

D-Will won't play vs. Knicks

December, 5, 2013
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EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- Brooklyn Nets point guard Deron Williams will not play in Thursday night’s rivalry game against the New York Knicks at the Barclays Center because of a sprained left ankle. He had been listed as doubtful.

Williams will miss his eighth straight game thanks to the injury and 10th game overall. There is no timetable for his return.

He originally hurt his ankle Nov. 15 in Phoenix, which caused him to miss two games. He returned Nov. 20 in Charlotte, reaggravated the injury, and hasn’t played since.

Tyshawn Taylor has been starting recently in Williams’ absence, with Shaun Livingston backing him up.

Williams, 28, had been averaging just 9.3 points and six assists per game. His Player Efficiency Rating of 13 is below the league average.

As previously reported, small forward Paul Pierce (hand), forward Andrei Kirilenko (back) and guard Jason Terry (knee) are also out.

The Nets (5-13) have lost 11 of their past 14 games.

Starting Five: Biiiiig game in Brooklyn

December, 5, 2013
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EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- Thursday night is a big game.

Just not in the sense many Brooklyn Nets and New York Knicks fans thought going into the season.

Both teams need this win.

They’re both a mess. Who would’ve expected that? The Nets have lost 11 of 14. The Knicks have lost nine in a row.

Standings-wise, things are fine. They both play in perhaps what will be the worst division ever in terms of winning percentage.

But still. A win over a “hated” city rival would be big. A loss would be bad. Very bad.

Good luck to the coach -- Jason Kidd or Mike Woodson -- that loses this one. Who knows what the ramifications might be.

And the juice is pretty much gone. Tyson Chandler, Paul Pierce, Andrei Kirilenko and Jason Terry are all out. Deron Williams is doubtful.

At least we have Kevin Garnett versus Carmelo Anthony. Perhaps that will be captivating. And, of course, the fan bases.

That’s pretty much it.

Question: How big do you think this game is?

In case you missed it: Kidd figures he’ll be fine without Lawrence Frank.

Jason Terry is optimistic about the Nets going forward.

Kidd doesn’t think there’s going to be “heat” in the rivalry Thursday night.

Stat of the day: Kidd went 23-4 against the Knicks as a Net.

Up next: Nets vs. Knicks. Thursday night. Barclays Center.

Kidd: No 'heat' behind Nets-Knicks

December, 4, 2013
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EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- Sorry to disappoint you, but Jason Kidd isn’t all gung-ho about the so-called heated rivalry between his Brooklyn Nets and the New York Knicks.

“No, I don’t think there’s any heat behind it,” Kidd said a day before the East River rivals meet at Barclays Center. “I think it’s just two teams trying to find a way to win.”

The Nets (5-13) come into the game having lost 11 of their past 14 games, while the Knicks (3-13) have dropped nine in a row. That prompted Kidd to say “both teams stink” following the Nets' blowout loss to Denver on Tuesday night.

On Wednesday, Carmelo Anthony referred to the Knicks as a “laughingstock.”

“I think both teams feel that we should be better with our record, but unfortunately we're not, and both teams are looking for a win tomorrow, so that's as easy as it gets,” Kidd said.

Most of the heat escaped this game due to injuries. Paul Pierce and Jason Terry have both been on record as saying they “hate” the Knicks, dating back to their days with the Boston Celtics. Pierce also said, “It’s time for the Nets to start running this city.”

But both players are out due to injury. So much for that epic Pierce-J.R. Smith showdown everyone was hoping for.

“For me, it’s personal from my battles with the Knicks over the years,” Terry said. “And so I don’t know from a Nets-Knicks standpoint. I haven’t been here; this will be my first experience, and unfortunately I’ll be watching and not in the fight, but I can only imagine the magnitude of this game tomorrow. Both teams are struggling; it’s a dire situation, so that's when you tend to see the best come out.”

Point guard Deron Williams (ankle) is doubtful.

“There is no plan for Deron [except] for him to continue to work out and see how he feels,” Kidd said when asked if Williams would participate in the Nets' shootaround.

It isn’t exactly the way these teams planned it, but it’s still an opportunity for one to get a win and feel good about itself -- if just for a little while.

As for the loser? Well, as we’ve said before, you don’t want to lose this game.

“Well, we gotta come out and protect home,” Kidd said. “Watching the film today with the guys -- today was more of a mental day. Guys got their work in early, and then we just looked at the first quarter [of the loss to Denver] and the things that we could get better at. And then we’ll prepare for New York tomorrow.”

Kidd on Knicks vs. Nets: 'Both teams stink'

December, 3, 2013
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NEW YORK -- Brooklyn Nets vs. New York Knicks! East River Rivalry! Thursday night at Barclays Center!

Better known as the most highly anticipated matchup between two terrible NBA teams in NYC history. ...

Yay?

The winner will be crowned the best of the worst.

The loser? Well, given the disarray and turmoil surrounding both teams, you don't want to be the loser.

"It's the rivalry and both teams stink," Nets coach Jason Kidd replied when asked if there's more meaning to Thursday night's game given the proximity between the team teams. "The one thing is we have to find a way to get better. It starts tomorrow for us. We have to find some answers as to why we go our separate ways instead of staying as a team. So we'll figure that out, and again, we have to find a way to protect home."

As of Tuesday night, the Nets (5-13) held a one-game lead over the Knicks (3-13) -- for 13th place in the Eastern Conference. Brooklyn has lost 11 of its past 14 games, while New York will come in riding a season-high nine-game losing streak.

Prior to Tuesday night's 111-87 blowout loss to the Denver Nuggets at Barclays Center, Kidd decided to reassign assistant Lawrence Frank to a reduced role.

As for Knicks coach Mike Woodson? Well, his seat seems to be getting hotter with every loss.

"I think at this point, we are trying to figure out who we are and fix this," power forward Kevin Garnett said when asked about the Knicks. "We are at home getting beat by 30, 40 points, and that’s not what we want. That's not even close to what we predicted where we wanted to be.

"We just want to understand, and like I said, there's a lot of things going on here, but no excuses. This is a non-excuse league, people don't care about that. They care about performance and coming out and we need to have a better showing at home, we need to have a better showing, period. And we will. We have no choice."

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