NFC East: Jim Sorgi

Scouts Inc.: Ranking the backup QBs

September, 3, 2010
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Let’s analyze the backup quarterback situations in the NFC East. As a rule of thumb, we need to remember that No. 2 quarterbacks around this league are quite horrendous at this time, but you could collectively do worse than this crew.

In Washington, backup Rex Grossman very well could end up as the opening day starter because Donovan McNabb is once again injured. Philadelphia has Michael Vick as its No. 2 and -- like last year -- he should be primed to see the field quite a bit in specific packages designed for his unique skill set. In New York, Eli Manning’s backup is Rhett Bomar, but Manning -- like his older brother -- is an iron man at quarterback. Lastly, Dallas features veteran Jon Kitna as Tony Romo’s backup.

Here’s how I rank the backup quarterback situations in the NFC East.

1. Dallas Cowboys: Kitna has had success as a starting quarterback in this league. He is a tough guy who is well respected and liked by his teammates. Kitna can be a risk-taker and force the action, but he also has a solid understanding of coverages and what it takes to succeed at this level. However, he has yet to throw a regular-season pass for the Cowboys. Still, I have faith that Kitna could be effective on a short-term basis.

2. Philadelphia Eagles: Vick is a gimmick player who looks to be getting back to form as an explosive running athlete. But his accuracy is still a big problem. He just isn’t that good of a passer. If Kevin Kolb were to go down, Vick would get more snaps, but it wouldn’t shock me if Mike Kafka also played a role in a two-headed quarterback situation. Kafka is very intelligent and played quite well in the preseason game against the Chiefs. He might have a bright future.

3. Washington Redskins: Grossman once led the Bears to the Super Bowl. But inconsistency and injuries have hurt his career. He has always been someone who runs either hot or cold. And his confidence seems to waver. The Redskins’ coaching staff, namely offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan, is very familiar with Grossman and seems to believe in him. However, he doesn’t move as well as he once did. He’s also short for the position and can struggle to see the entire field and find throwing lanes. And his 54 percent career completion percentage and 33/36 touchdown/interception ratio doesn’t exactly inspire a lot of confidence.

4. New York Giants: Bomar has ability. He was one of the most heavily recruited players in the nation before signing with Oklahoma. His college career was derailed by off-the-field problems and he ended up at Sam Houston State. Bomar moves very well and has a good arm. He also has put together a fine preseason. He might just develop into a very solid No. 2 behind the ever-durable Manning, but is very much a work in progress. Jim Sorgi was scheduled to back up Manning, but a shoulder injury has landed him on injured reserve.

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Jim Sorgi, Sinorice Moss placed on IR

August, 31, 2010
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The New York Giants placed backup quarterback Jim Sorgi and wide receiver Sinorice Moss on injured reserve Tuesday, thus ending their seasons. The improved play of former Sam Houston State and Oklahoma quarterback Rhett Bomar in the preseason probably made it easier for the Giants to go ahead and make this decision.

And with the emergence of rookie wide receiver Victor Cruz in the preseason games, even a healthy Moss would've been hard-pressed to make the 53-man roster. Sixth-round draft pick Adrian Tracy (dislocated elbow) was also placed on injured reserve Tuesday, and offensive lineman Kevin Boothe (pectoral) was moved to the reserve physically unable to perform list (PUP), which will keep him out at least the first six weeks of the season.

Sorgi, a seven-year veteran, suffered a shoulder injury in the preseason opener against the Jets and hasn't been able to practice since. In addition to starter Eli Manning, the Giants now have Bomar and the recently signed Dominic Randolph. We'll quickly find out how much faith coach Tom Coughlin has in Bomar. I felt like he was going to beat out Sorgi anyway, but it's still unsettling to have such an inexperienced player backing up Manning.

Moss underwent surgery for a sports hernia Tuesday morning and it's likely that he's played his final game for the Giants. He had 39 catches for 421 yards and three touchdowns in his career with the club. Moss had his moments in the preseason over the years, but he was never able to take that to the regular season.

Rookie wide receiver Nyan Boateng was also released Tuesday, so the Giants are now down to 75 players. They'll have to be at 53 by Saturday afternoon.

Eli Manning is out for Steelers game

August, 18, 2010
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New York Giants quarterback Eli Manning has been ruled out for Saturday's preseason game against the Steelers. Other than tossing a few passes while wearing a cap, Manning did not practice Wednesday afternoon. And with backup Jim Sorgi out with a shoulder injury, Rhett Bomar was the only quarterback standing.

"Eli will not play this week but I won't go any further than that," Coughlin said after practice. "There is a question as to whether what he can do with a hat on [in practice]. I am not going to rush things. If the doctors say it is OK for him to throw, then he will do some throwing. But he is definitely not going to put the helmet on."

A couple of Manning's buddies on the offensive line showed up to Wednesday's practice with large bandages on their foreheads. Coughlin said there was a possibility the Giants would sign another quarterback in the next couple days in case Sorgi's not ready to go against the Steelers.

For Manning, this will be a moment that stays with him for a long time. There's nothing like opening a brand new stadium by leaking blood all over the playing surface after a botched play.

"I always thought my first game ever versus Philadelphia would be the biggest hit I would ever take," said Manning on Wednesday. "Jerome McDougle gave me a good pop but this is right up there. Kind of a double whammy, and you get a little blood and stuff, it is always a good hit. Let's hope this will be the worst one."

And in case you're wondering, Giants camp phenom Victor Cruz is supposed to call the Beast later this evening. We'll keep you posted. If he calls, I'll probably write something up for Thursday morning. Thanks for your continued support.

Beastlines: From one Manning to another

June, 14, 2010
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Dallas Cowboys

Todd Archer of The Dallas Morning News shared what he learned during from OTAs and minicamp workouts.

Jean-Jacques Taylor expects Anthony Spencer and Mike Jenkins to help the Cowboys generate more turnovers.

New York Giants

Jonathan Goff has his sights set on being the Giants' starting middle linebacker.

Best known as Peyton Manning's understudy in Indianapolis, Jim Sorgi is now set to back up Eli Manning in New York.

Philadelphia Eagles

Sheil Kapadia offers five thought on the Eagles' defense following the conclusion of OTAs.

How a young Eagles team deals with criticism from the fans will be important, according to former Philadelphia quarterback Donovan McNabb.

Washington Redskins

McNabb was back in the Philadelphia area to host his annual camp.

Running back Brian Westbrook says joining the Redskins remains a possibility.

Coughlin shows up to watch Tebow

March, 17, 2010
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I expected all of the NFC East teams to be represented at Florida's pro day Wednesday, but it was a bit surprising to actually see Giants coach Tom Coughlin make an appearance to watch Tim Tebow. Here's the breakdown from ESPN's Chris Mortensen.

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Apparently Tebow was good enough Wednesday to convince the NFL to invite him to New York for the draft next month. As we've seen, things can get a little awkward when players in attendance have to linger in the green room. And I haven't seen a single mock draft that has Tebow going in the first round. Perhaps Tebow will wait until Friday evening to stop by.

But back to the Giants. Why would Coughlin be in Gainesville, Fla., for a pro day when he has Eli Manning, the immortal Jim Sorgi and Rhett Bomar on the roster? Well, maybe he wanted to see that new delivery for himself. I think we're about to see Tebow come roaring up draft boards. It's not like the Giants are going to take him at No. 15, but I wouldn't rule them out of trying to land him on Friday of the draft. And don't think the presence of Rex Grossman in Washington will prevent Mike Shanahan from taking a long look at Tebow.

Beast chat begins at high noon

March, 16, 2010
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It's time to take a break from your tournament brackets and focus on the NFC East. Yes, I know many of you want to ask me about the No. 3 seed in the South, but we need to talk some football.

Since we last met, the Redskins have signed troubled running back Larry Johnson, the Giants landed quarterback Jim Sorgi, the Eagles visited with two running backs and the Cowboys hosted a Manny Pacquiao fight. We can also discuss what the Redskins are planning to do at No. 4 overall, which is part of today's "Big Question" on the ESPN.com blog network (1 p.m. ET).

If you click here, you can participate in one of the fastest-growing weekly chats from the SportsNation family. We're expecting unusually large crowds today, so plan on showing up early. I've been known to answer the first five questions in deference to punctuality.

Now let me suggest reading Andy Katz's breakdown of the South Regional.

Who's the best backup QB in Beast?

March, 11, 2010
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New York Giants backup quarterback Jim Sorgi is in line to make roughly $1.15 million in 2010, according to Mike Garafolo of the Star-Ledger. If he sees significant playing time, the contract could grow to $1.8 million. But the Giants are obviously hoping that Sorgi never has to play a meaningful down, something that he's familiar with from his time with the Colts.

I'm still trying to determine exactly how Sorgi injured his shoulder in '09 -- since he wasn't playing. There were rumors that it was a non-football injury, but even folks close to the situation haven't come up with an explanation. I'm sure the Giants did their due diligence in determining how the injury occurred. And if I ever hear the story, I'll be happy to pass it along.

By the way, do you guys feel like Rhett Bomar will have a legitimate opportunity to win the No. 2 role? One more question: Who has the best backup quarterback in the NFC East? Here's how I'd rank them (I'm leaving a certain Wildcat quarterback out of the mix):

1. Kevin Kolb

2. Jon Kitna

3. Jim Sorgi

4. Colt Brennan

If you determine that Michael Vick is the backup quarterback in Philly rather than Kolb, then he'd also head the list. Thoughts? Concerns? Praise?

Why did the Giants turn to Sorgi?

March, 9, 2010
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Once the New York Giants determined that former Colts quarterback Jim Sorgi's injured shoulder was healing nicely, they signed him to a one-year contract. He seems like the perfect fit because he offers insurance for the Giants while they try to bring along second-year quarterback Rhett Bomar.

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Sorgi's probably resigned himself to being a backup in the league, but that's not a bad thing. I don't think you want to bring a high-strung guy like Jeff Garcia into a daily meeting room with the laid-back Eli Manning. Sorgi's served as Peyton Manning's understudy for six seasons, so there are no surprises here. If Peyton didn't have a great opinion of Sorgi, there's no way he'd be with the Giants this afternoon.

My biggest concern would be that Sorgi always seems to get banged up in the preseason, which is pretty much the only time he plays. Obviously, the Giants are hoping they never have to turn to Sorgi during the regular season, and given Eli's ability to play through pain, there's a good chance that will happen.

Giants general manager Jerry Reese and coach Tom Coughlin love creating competition in training camp and I bet they're hoping Bomar and Sorgi feed off each other.

Report: Sorgi, Giants agree to contract

March, 9, 2010
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I interrupt an NFC East chat to report that former Colts quarterback Jim Sorgi has signed a one-year contract with the New York Giants, according to AFC South blogger Paul Kuharsky. Sorgi's agent informed Kuharsky of this news earlier in the hour.

The terms of the deal are not yet available. Now, let's return to our weekly chat.

Tuesday Beastlines: The Avant signing

March, 9, 2010
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Let's take a quick look at the top storylines from around the division this morning:

Cowboys

Eagles

Giants

Redskins

Niners purchase pre-owned Carr

March, 8, 2010
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It's now official that the New York Giants need a replacement for backup quarterback David Carr -- since he signed with the 49ers over the weekend. As we discussed Sunday, former Colts backup Jim Sorgi will be in East Rutherford, N.J., for a workout with the Giants today.

Sorgi, a sixth-round pick by the Colts in '04, is probably a better option than aging quarterbacks such as Jeff Garcia and Mark Brunell. But don't underestimate Tom Coughlin's love of Brunell after they worked together in Jacksonville. The best thing about Sorgi is that he's spent six years serving as Peyton Manning's understudy. I assume that he's bumped into Eli a time or two during that period, so it would probably be an easy transition.

Garcia would be the wrong fit because he's never truly accepted the idea of being a backup in the league. And for some teams, it's good to have a guy who's capable of making the starter uncomfortable. That's not the case with the Giants. Unless Sorgi's health is a concern (he's banged up a lot for a guy who rarely plays), I expect him to soon be on New York's roster.

QB Sorgi to work out for Giants

March, 7, 2010
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Peyton Manning's longtime backup in Indianapolis, Jim Sorgi, is scheduled to work out for the Giants on Monday, his agent Matt Brei told ESPN.com's Paul Kuharsky earlier this afternoon. Sorgi was a sixth-round pick by the Colts in '04 and he's appeared in 16 games.

The Colts released him over the weekend for financial reasons. With Giants unrestricted free-agent David Carr meeting with other teams, it makes sense that New York would meet with another veteran. Their only other option as a backup is second-year quarterback Rhett Bomar.

Sorgi's spent six seasons working under Peyton, so backing up Eli shouldn't be that big of an adjustment. The Giants will quickly try to determine how much ability Sorgi has at this point in his career. But all things equal, I think New York's about ready to move on without Carr.

Ex-Skins QBs in the Super Bowl

February, 2, 2010
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If you study the Saints' sideline Sunday, you'll see two former Redskins quarterbacks in Mark Brunell and Chase Daniel. Brunell started 33 games for Washington from 2004-07 before being released in 2008. Saints head coach Sean Payton was an assistant with the Cowboys when Daniel was a standout quarterback at local Southlake Carroll High School and watched him blossom into one of the nation's best at Missouri.

Here's what Payton had to say about Brunell's impact on the Saints:

"One thing we were looking for was someone [who] A) we felt could still play," Payton said. "It's one thing to say we want to have a mentor and yet our jobs as coaches is to make sure we're providing that. So it started with the question, do we feel like we have a vision for the player in Mark Brunell? We felt like his arm strength was still solid and [so was his] delivery and there's a confidence level about him in the huddle and in practice that is somewhat contagious. And I think that's a good trait to have when you're someone who could be called on at any time.

"So outside the evaluation process, the other things were things we felt real good about. He has been someone who's a key figure on this team and has a key role. He still works and prepares just like you would expect for any one of your players each week."

I think it's difficult for star quarterbacks to transition into a mentor role in this league but Brunell had done a really nice job. And I think you're also seeing the same thing with Jon Kitna with the Cowboys. Brunell obviously had more success than Kitna as a quarterback but they're at similar stages in their careers.

Another guy in that same age bracket, Jeff Garcia, has never really embraced the mentor role. He still wants to be a starter no matter who he's playing behind. And sometimes having a guy like that on the roster can be a motivating force for a young quarterback who needs to be pushed.

By the way, which backup would you take in this Super Bowl? Give me Brunell over the immortal Curtis Painter or the former Badger, Jim Sorgi.

Let the Zorn era begin

August, 3, 2008
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Posted by ESPN.com's Matt Mosley

What a nut that Tony Dungy is with an onside kick on the first play of the Hall of Fame game. 

  • Colts quarterback Jim Sorgi has been given the hook after one series. Sorgi was 7-of-10 for 66 yards before turning things over to former Jaguars quarterback Quinn Gray.
  • Redskins have to be pleased with what they saw from seventh-round defensive end Rob Jackson, who sacked Sorgi in the first quarter. I watched Jackson in person at least twice when he was at Kansas State, and he's one of those high-motor guys that could give the Redskins some much-needed depth behind Jason Taylor and Andre Carter.
  • By the way, Taylor has turned his new jersey into a muscle shirt. Sort of an odd look. When the Hall of Fame class was introduced before the game, Taylor set up shop just a couple of feet behind them.

Jim Zorn has been working with Campbell on taking bigger strides and then getting lower in the pocket. So far he looks a lot less stiff than I've seen in the past.

I love seeing guys like Art Monk and Darrell Green talk about what the Hall of Fame means to them. Remind me to tell you a great Green story that Michael Irvin told me last week.

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