NFC East: trindon holliday

EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- The New York Giants have a decision to make on linebacker Jon Beason by Saturday's 4 p.m. ET deadline for final roster cuts. If Beason is to come off the Physically Unable to Perform list, he'll have to do so before the deadline and count against the team's 53-man roster. Asked whether that will happen, Beason said Friday, "Hopefully," and then left the locker room without speaking further.

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The Giants' plan as of now is to activate Beason, who missed all of training camp with a foot injury but believes he'll be healthy enough to practice next week and play in the Sept. 8 Monday Night season opener in Detroit. That plan could change between now and 4 p.m. Saturday depending on how he feels and possibly some other decisions, but as of now it looks as though Beason will be available to the Giants in Week 1, even if he's not healthy enough to start and play as much as he normally would.

In other Giants news:
  • Cornerback Prince Amukamara said he's fully healed from his groin injury and expects to practice next week without restriction. Amukamara said he could have played Thursday night if it had been a real game.
  • Guard Geoff Schwartz is a candidate for the short-term injured reserve list, which would cost him the first eight weeks of the season. Schwartz said Friday that he hoped to be back sooner than that, and that the team hadn't broached the topic with him. In order to use the short-term IR designation on Schwartz, the Giants would have to put him on their 53-man roster Saturday and then designate him for IR early next week. So unless they believe he'll be out for the whole season (which they do not) , the Giants will delay the decision on Schwartz.
  • Kick return specialist Trindon Holliday, who has missed almost all of camp with a hamstring injury, said he believes he'll be ready to practice next week. The question is whether the Giants will put Holliday on the 53-man roster Saturday, or whether they'll cut him and look at other options. Holliday and Odell Beckham Jr., who also has missed all of camp with a hamstring injury, are the top two candidates at punt returner, so if the Giants believe they have a need there they could cut Holliday and keep someone like wide receiver Preston Parker for punt returns. But if they really believe Holliday is healthy enough to practice next week, they could keep him and use someone like Rueben Randle as the fallback on punt returns.
  • Fullback Henry Hynoski (shoulder) and guard Eric Herman (leg) went for tests on their injuries from Thursday night. The team does not think Hynoski's injury is serious. They don't think Herman's is, either, but Herman is suspended for the first four games of the season for a drug violation anyway, so he has plenty of time to get healthy.
EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- It's now been a week since the setback that wasn't a setback, and New York Giants rookie wide receiver Odell Beckham still isn't practicing with the team. Obviously, this means the team's first-round draft pick won't play in Thursday's preseason finale against the Patriots, which means he won't have played in any of the Giants' five preseason games.

"He's not going to play," an obviously frustrated Giants coach Tom Coughlin said after Monday's practice, during which Beckham once again worked on a side field with the training staff. "Have you seen him practice? How about practicing first?"

Beckham's last full training camp practice was when he was still at LSU. He injured his hamstring in the first practice of Giants training camp July 22 and hasn't practiced in full with the team since. He returned to the field a bit a couple of weeks ago and was working his way into 11-on-11 drills, but then he hurt himself in practice again last Monday and hasn't practiced since.

"I think he's very frustrated," Coughlin said. "I think his whole personality's held in check because he's not able to do the things that he wants to do."

With Beckham out, the Giants have been using Jerrel Jernigan in his outside receiver spot. It's possible that preseason star Corey Washington could get a look there with the first team Thursday, but we thought that was possible last week and Washington didn't play until the fourth quarter against the Jets.

Obviously, Beckham's availability for the Sept. 8 "Monday Night Football" opener in Detroit is in serious doubt. The Giants don't like to rush rookies into action in the first place, and that's especially true when the rookie hasn't had a training camp.

In other Giants injury news:
  • Guard Geoff Schwartz was seeing a foot specialist Monday to determine the severity of his toe injury. The Giants should have news on Schwartz at some point early this week, but it's safe to assume he'll have to miss at least the first few games of the regular season, if not many more.
  • Guard Brandon Mosley missed a second straight day of practice due to a back injury and was getting examined by a doctor, according to Coughlin. John Jerry played with the first-team line in Mosley's right guard spot while rookie Weston Richburg manned Schwartz's left guard spot.
  • Offensive lineman James Brewer remains out with a back injury, which could damage his chances of making the 53-man roster. Brewer was on the bubble to begin with.
  • Return specialist Trindon Holliday also sat out of practice with a hamstring injury. Holliday did some individual work Sunday but did not appear to work at all Monday. With Holliday and Beckham both sidelined, the Giants are hurting at punt returner and may keep wide receiver Preston Parker because has experience in that role.

Giants Camp Report: Day 15

August, 13, 2014
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EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- A daily review of the hot topics coming out of New York Giants training camp:
  • Rookie wide receiver Odell Beckham Jr. continues to make significant progress from the hamstring injury that has held him out of practice since the first day of camp. The team's first-round pick even took a couple of snaps Wednesday in 11-on-11 drills and caught a touchdown pass on one of them. Giants coach Tom Coughlin didn't even rule out the possibility that Beckham could play in Saturday's preseason game in Indianapolis, though I have to think that's a long shot and that next Friday against the Jets is more likely.
  • Coughlin said left tackle Will Beatty and cornerback Trumaine McBride, who have been practicing but didn't play in the first two preseason games as part of the plan for their recoveries from offseason surgery, would play Saturday. He said to expect Beatty to play about as much as a starting offensive lineman would play in a first preseason game of the year. For comparison's sake, Geoff Schwartz and J.D. Walton played 20 snaps in the Hall of Fame Game, and right tackle Justin Pugh played 24.
  • Cornerback Walter Thurmond continues to dazzle, and I have to think it will be a huge relief for Giants slot receiver Victor Cruz to go up against whoever the Detroit Lions are using as a nickel cornerback Sept. 8 in Detroit. Thurmond's highlight plays Wednesday included a pass breakup on which he had tight end Larry Donnell blanketed over the middle and a stop on running back Rashad Jennings when Jennings caught a pass in the flat.
  • Other highlight plays: Rookie linebacker Devon Kennard knocking rookie running back Andre Williams to the ground in the backfield on a run play; Rueben Randle's acrobatic catch in the corner of the end zone against Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie in one-on-one goal-line drills; Rookie cornerback Bennett Jackson ripping the ball out of wide receiver Travis Harvey's hands at the end of a long pass play; Interceptions of Curtis Painter by Mark Herzlich and Chandler Fenner in early team drills.
  • Wide receiver Jerrel Jernigan was back at practice after sitting out Monday and Tuesday with a knee injury. New to the list of injured players sitting out practice was cornerback Zack Bowman (unclear what his injury was). Also sitting out were running back Peyton Hillis (ankle), tight end Xavier Grimble (hamstring), tight end Daniel Fells (knee), return man Trindon Holliday (hamstring) and defensive tackle Mike Patterson (shoulder).
  • Cruz, who had some knee issues in practice this week, seemed completely fine and appeared to do everything in Wednesday's relatively short practice.
  • Though they will continue to practice here next week as they have been, Thursday marks the final official day of Giants training camp. That means Thursday's 1:20 pm practice will be the final practice of the year that is open to the public. So take off work and come out to say hi. Tell your boss I said it was okay.
EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- Wide receiver Odell Beckham Jr., the New York Giants' first-round pick in this year's draft, still hasn't practiced with the team since injuring his hamstring on July 22. But according to coach Tom Coughlin, Beckham appears to be making progress toward a return to the field.

"It sounds like he's getting close," Coughlin said Wednesday afternoon, about five hours before the Giants' scheduled training camp practice. "They have him doing a lot of things. They're going to push him a little bit today and get a quarterback to throw to him and see how that goes. So he's getting close. I wish Trindon Holliday was in the same boat. It doesn't seem like he's quite as far along."

Holliday, the kick- and punt-return specialist the Giants signed in free agency, also is out with a hamstring injury and no sure bet to make the roster at this point.

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The two new injuries that surfaced for the Giants in Tuesday night's practice were running back Peyton Hillis' sprained ankle, which Coughlin said could keep Hillis out a while, and a knee injury to guard Geoff Schwartz, who will not practice Wednesday evening. Schwartz was in and out of practice Tuesday night and seemed to be dealing with discomfort in his left knee. It's unclear how serious the injury is or how long he'll be out. Weston Richburg and James Brewer subbed in for Schwartz on Tuesday.

As for Beckham, he was able to do more in Tuesday's practice than he had been until then. He stretched with the team, in shoulder pads, and did some running and cutting on the sidelines while the rest of the team practiced -- more activity than we'd seen from him since the injury. He's obviously unlikely to play in Saturday night's preseason game against the Steelers, but he has said he intends to play in preseason games, and the Giants do have three more of them after Saturday.

"He's been locked in mentally, been locked in physically in the training room, trying to get himself out there and ready to play," wide receiver Victor Cruz said of Beckham. "He's definitely ahead of the curve from a mental standpoint as far as the game plan. He's locked into everything, knows all our plays. I'm quizzing him all the time, giving him little things to think about while we're out there on the field and making sure he stays locked in. So it's unfortunate that he can't be out there, but his time will come."
One last New York Giants Twitter mailbag before I start a too-brief summer vacation ... @DanGrazianoESPN: Yeah, I think that's a fair expectation, and I think you saw the Giants lean that way last year with Terrell Thomas as the regular nickel corner. They signed Walter Thurmond to play that position, and he's as good at it as anyone in the league. And they're thin at safety with Will Hill suspended and released, Stevie Brown coming off knee surgery and Quintin Demps having been signed primarily to return kicks. They have been talking a lot about keeping Antrel Rolle at safety, rather than using him all over the field as they've done in years past, and obviously sticking with a three-cornerback look would help with that. I honestly don't see the need for the old three-safety package, especially if Jon Beason is back healthy at middle linebacker early in the season. It worked well during that 2011 Super Bowl season, but that year they were thin at cornerback and linebacker and deep at safety. You're right if your point is that the scheme should be based around the personnel, and right now cornerback is a Giants strength. @DanGrazianoESPN: With Beason nursing a foot injury, the starting middle linebacker in training camp (and probably for Week 1) is going to be Jameel McClain. He projects as the starting strongside linebacker if Beason's healthy, but he's taking over in the middle while he's not. Jacquian Williams is the front-runner for the starting weakside linebacker spot, and the strongside position should belong to either Spencer Paysinger or rookie Devon Kennard, who impressed coaches with his minicamp performance. As for receivers, that's an interesting case. My first thought is that they keep six -- Victor Cruz, Rueben Randle, Mario Manningham, Odell Beckham Jr., Jerrel Jernigan and Trindon Holliday. But Holliday isn't really likely to factor as a receiver, as he's pretty much exclusively a kick and punt returner. So that would leave them with five real receivers (four if Manningham's knee won't let him answer the bell). That opens it up for someone like a Marcus Harris, Julian Talley or Corey Washington to possibly sneak onto the roster with a good camp, but that's a long shot. @DanGrazianoESPN: Based on my conversations with Giants people (and with Will Beatty himself) last year and this spring, I think the main reason Beatty struggled was technique. He's not a big, monstrous, mauling left tackle who relies on strength and an ability to overpower people. Beatty's success, when he's had it, has had more to do with quickness and athleticism. I was told last season while he was struggling that Beatty was playing with his hands too low, giving away leverage and hurting his ability to dictate his matchups. That sounds like an easy thing to fix, but bad habits are tough to break, and as the year went along the struggles got into Beatty's head. He admitted in December that he'd felt the weight of his free-agent contract and let the pressure get to him, and I think he was looking forward to an offseason to clear his head. The problem is that Beatty's offseason has been about recovery from that broken leg he suffered in the Week 17 game against the Redskins, and he hasn't had time to practice getting back into good habits. I agree that a Beatty rebound would have a positive ripple effect along the rest of the line, but at this point you have to consider him a major question mark, and not just because of the injury. @DanGrazianoESPN: The firing of their longtime tight ends coach does rank among the more surprising moves of the Giants' offseason. But when they hired young Ben McAdoo as their new offensive coordinator, it was only fair to assume he'd want to bring in a few of his own coaches and help construct the staff. During those discussions, it was decided that Pope's position would be one of the ones to turn over. They moved wide receivers coach Kevin M. Gilbride (the son of the former offensive coordinator) to tight ends coach, Sean Ryan from quarterbacks coach back to wide receivers coach and hired Danny Langsdorf as the new quarterbacks coach. Pope was a Giants icon, and the only person whose name is on all four of the franchise's Super Bowl trophies. But there was an effort to get a bit younger on the coaching staff this offseason. Tight end Adrien Robinson spoke during OTAs about how he's felt a different kind of connection with the younger Gilbride than he did with Pope, and if that's the case with the rest of the group it might answer your question. Thanks for all of your questions. If you need me, I'm on the golf course.

Twitter mailbag: OTA thoughts

June, 7, 2014
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You asked. You used the #nygmail hashtag on Twitter. I scrolled. I answer.
 
The New York Giants ranked 27th in the NFL in kick-return average in 2013. In the past two days, they have added the players who ranked third and fifth in kick-return average in 2013. That's what you call commitment to upgrade an area of need.

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A day after signing safety and kick returner Quintin Demps, the Giants agreed to terms Monday with kick and punt return specialist Trindon Holliday, who ran a punt back 81 yards for a touchdown against them in the Broncos' Week 2 victory in MetLife Stadium in September.

Holliday ranked fifth in the league with 27.7 yards per kick return in 2013 and 17th in the league with an average of 8.5 yards per punt return. He's immediately the leading candidate to return punts in 2014, since Demps hasn't really done it, but the idea that they could conceivably put both of these guys back on the same kick return is pretty exciting if you're a Giants fan.

Holliday is nominally a wide receiver, but he has only two receptions in his NFL career and functions exclusively as a return man. He's known as one of the fastest in the game, and his career average on punt returns is 9.4 yards. Like pretty much every one of the 15 free agents the Giants have signed in the past seven days, he'll be 28 years old when the season starts.

This was a major need area for the Giants, and they are addressing it aggressively. Overall roster depth remains important for them to build, since part of their issue in the return game was the blocking for the return men, and the more quality depth you have on your roster the better your special teamers are. But there is no denying that Demps and Holliday represent a major shot in the arm and should make the Giants' return game considerably more fun and exciting beginning in Week 1.

Locker Room Buzz: New York Giants

September, 15, 2013
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EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- Observed in the locker room after the New York Giants' 41-23 loss to the Denver Broncos.

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They know they have been here before: Giants coach Tom Coughlin said the fact that the 2007 Giants started 0-2 and went on to win the Super Bowl "was mentioned" in the postgame locker room, and guard Chris Snee said he believed it was defensive end Justin Tuck who mentioned it. But Snee was ready for the question and not eager to rush to the comparison. "That was a different team," Snee said. "We'll see what kind of team we have and what kind of fight we have."

Brotherly love: Eli Manning said that he and his brother, Broncos quarterback Peyton Manning, spoke for about 10 minutes before the game and that he didn't expect Peyton to give him a hard time about being 3-0 lifetime in their head-to-head starts. "These are our jobs," Eli said.

Unusual request: When there's a crowd of reporters around the locker of long snapper and special teamer Zak DeOssie, you know something went wrong. DeOssie didn't offer much of an explanation for Trindon Holliday's 81-yard punt return for a touchdown. "I missed him," DeOssie said. "I wish I hadn't."

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