NFC North: Allen Barbre
Green Bay Packers cutdown analysis
September, 4, 2010
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Check here for a full list of Green Bay's roster moves.
Biggest surprise: Spencer Havner was the Packers' No. 3 tight end last year and this summer, but his versatility seemed to make him a valuable part of the roster. He's a competent receiver, a good blocker, decent on special teams and also can play linebacker. Perhaps he wasn't good enough in any of those roles to justify a roster spot for. I don't know for sure. Regardless, the Packers chose veteran Donald Lee, rookie Andrew Quarless and also Tom Crabtree ahead of him. Meanwhile, we discussed the possibility that defensive back/kick returner Will Blackmon might get squeezed out. But it appears the Packers believe he isn't close to recovering fully from an October knee injury. They officially placed him on injured reserve, but he'll eventually be waived in accordance with an injury settlement.
No-brainers: The Packers parted ways with offensive lineman Allen Barbre, who had a disastrous seven-game stint at right tackle last season. It was about time. Like Blackmon, Barbre was placed on injured reserve, but eventually will be waived. On the other side of the equation, the Packers couldn't do anything but keep rookie cornerback Sam Shields. I'm not sure how much he'll play immediately, but he showed too much potential this summer to risk exposing to waivers.
What's next: Waiving Chris Bryan should mean that Tim Masthay will be the Packers' Week 1 punter, but we'll wait to get confirmation from the Packers on that. After parting ways with Blackmon and Jason Chery, it's not clear who will be the Packers' kickoff or punt returners. Likely candidates are running back Brandon Jackson and receiver Jordy Nelson. As of now, the Packers have more fullbacks on their roster (three) than running backs (two). I wonder if that will change in the coming days.
Catching up on some reported moves
September, 4, 2010
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We're planning posts on each NFC North team's cuts once they are official. Announcements could come at any point Saturday afternoon or evening, but for now let's round up some of the bigger names who are already reported to be on the way off their respective rosters.
- The Chicago Bears are planning to waive a good chunk of their 2009 draft, including defensive end Jarron Gilbert and receiver Juaquin Iglesias. They will also waive former starting left guard Josh Beekman. (Sources: ESPNChicago.com and Chicago Tribune.)
- The Detroit Lions will waive offensive lineman Jon Jansen, the loser of the right tackle competition with Gosder Cherilus. Other cuts include linebacker Vinny Ciurciu, who spent most of the summer as the No. 1 middle linebacker, and safety Ko Simpson. (Sources: Mlive.com and Detroit News.)
- The Green Bay Packers reached an injury settlement with offensive lineman Allen Barbre and also released safety/kick returner Will Blackmon. They might also trade tight end/linebacker Spencer Havner. (Source: Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.)
- The Minnesota Vikings will waive two cornerbacks, DeAndre Wright and Marcus Sherels. That leaves them with three healthy cornerbacks on their roster, an indication they will make a trade or waiver claim at the position this weekend. (Source: Star Tribune and ESPN1500.com.)
Changes in store for Matthews, Bulaga
August, 9, 2010
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Two newsworthy developments took place Monday when the Green Bay Packers reassembled for training camp: Pro Bowl linebacker Clay Matthews was sidelined for two weeks by a strained hamstring, while rookie offensive linemen Bryan Bulaga was thrown into the competition for the starting left guard position.
First things first...
Matthews suffered the injury during Saturday night's Family Night scrimmage, and coach Mike McCarthy indicated the injury was similar to the one that limited Matthews for a good portion of last spring and summer. McCarthy said "I would definitely estimate it being at least two weeks."
In the meantime, look for Brad Jones and Brandon Chillar to work as the first-team outside linebackers when the Packers are in their base defense. It goes almost without saying that Matthews is critical part of the Packers defense, but I wouldn't get worked up about a two-week absence in August.
On the other hand, I am going to get a little worked up about the Bulaga move. But first, let's get McCarthy's full explanation:
At this point, I can't tell you if this move is more about Bulaga's good work or a reflection on the job that Colledge, Barbre and Jason Spitz have done at left guard. But as we've discussed before, the Packers have been unable to resist the siren of shuffling young offensive linemen based on short-term need. In some cases -- Colledge chief among them -- the constant change has limited overall development.
I understand the argument of getting your best five offensive linemen on the field, but we all know Bulaga is the Packers' left tackle of the future. It's by far the most difficult offensive line position to fill, and everything we can see about Bulaga suggests he can handle it. So why oversaturate him with a temporary move to left guard? I don't have an answer to that question -- unless his arms really are too short.
First things first...
Matthews suffered the injury during Saturday night's Family Night scrimmage, and coach Mike McCarthy indicated the injury was similar to the one that limited Matthews for a good portion of last spring and summer. McCarthy said "I would definitely estimate it being at least two weeks."
In the meantime, look for Brad Jones and Brandon Chillar to work as the first-team outside linebackers when the Packers are in their base defense. It goes almost without saying that Matthews is critical part of the Packers defense, but I wouldn't get worked up about a two-week absence in August.
On the other hand, I am going to get a little worked up about the Bulaga move. But first, let's get McCarthy's full explanation:
We felt to this point that he has earned an opportunity to compete for a starting position. Our intent throughout the spring and going into training camp was to work him exclusively at left tackle. I have been very impressed with his body of work to this point, and we're going to give him an opportunity to compete with Daryn Colledge and Allen Barbre at the left guard position.
At this point, I can't tell you if this move is more about Bulaga's good work or a reflection on the job that Colledge, Barbre and Jason Spitz have done at left guard. But as we've discussed before, the Packers have been unable to resist the siren of shuffling young offensive linemen based on short-term need. In some cases -- Colledge chief among them -- the constant change has limited overall development.
I understand the argument of getting your best five offensive linemen on the field, but we all know Bulaga is the Packers' left tackle of the future. It's by far the most difficult offensive line position to fill, and everything we can see about Bulaga suggests he can handle it. So why oversaturate him with a temporary move to left guard? I don't have an answer to that question -- unless his arms really are too short.
We're Black and Blue All Over:
We've discussed the impending return of Chicago Bears middle linebacker Brian Urlacher, who missed most of last season because of a fractured wrist. This week, however, Urlacher discussed the hoped-for return of the Bears' Cover 2 defensive scheme.
Speaking to Vaughn McClure of the Chicago Tribune, Urlacher said the addition of defensive end Julius Peppers should elevate the defensive line's pass rush, reduce the frequency of blitz calls and allow the Bears to play the scheme they employed with great success in the middle of the decade.
Pressure from the front four is a goal of every defense, but over the past three seasons, we've seen what happens when the Bears don't get it. Can Peppers alone reverse that trend? Urlacher believes he will.
Continuing around the NFC North:
We've discussed the impending return of Chicago Bears middle linebacker Brian Urlacher, who missed most of last season because of a fractured wrist. This week, however, Urlacher discussed the hoped-for return of the Bears' Cover 2 defensive scheme.
Speaking to Vaughn McClure of the Chicago Tribune, Urlacher said the addition of defensive end Julius Peppers should elevate the defensive line's pass rush, reduce the frequency of blitz calls and allow the Bears to play the scheme they employed with great success in the middle of the decade.
Urlacher: "I mean the year before the Super Bowl and the year of the Super Bowl, we were good. We ran so much Cover 2, and it worked, man. We had pressure on the quarterback. We had a lot of picks. Yes, we have the talent and the ability to play more man coverage. But here's the thing: Cover 2 works. When we do it right and when we have pressure with our front four and we're breaking on the ball like we've been doing all this spring, it works. There is no doubt in my mind that we will have pressure on the quarterback this season. ... I would hope we blitz less. Hopefully we won't need to. Pressure on the quarterback from the front is huge. You're dropping seven and that's more eyes on the quarterback, more people breaking on the football. It's just better for everyone.''
Pressure from the front four is a goal of every defense, but over the past three seasons, we've seen what happens when the Bears don't get it. Can Peppers alone reverse that trend? Urlacher believes he will.
Continuing around the NFC North:
- Jeff Dickerson of ESPNChicago.com isn't sure why the Bears have placed so much trust in defensive end Mark Anderson, who will start opposite Peppers: "What has Anderson done to restore the Bears' faith in him? Why was [Alex] Brown deemed expendable? These are questions only Anderson can answer by his performance on the field."
- Sean Jensen of the Chicago Sun-Times traces the journey of Bears guard Johan Asiata.
- The Minnesota Vikings have expressed interest in free-agent receiver Kelley Washington, according to Judd Zulgad of the Star Tribune.
- The father of Vikings center John Sullivan died suddenly of a heart attack last month, writes Chip Scoggins of the Star Tribune.
- Tom Pelissero of 1500ESPN.com takes a look at the Vikings' quarterback depth.
- Bob McGinn of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel offers this doomsday scenario for the Green Bay Packers' offensive line: "[Chad] Clifton and [Mark] Tauscher get old in a hurry, and when they are able to line up their level of play dips dramatically. [Bryan] Bulaga struggles at left tackle. T.J. Lang's post-surgical wrist takes a long, long time to heal. Breno Giacomini isn't the answer. No one emerges at left guard. Daryn Colledge proves that he shouldn't even have been brought back. Jason Spitz really is a center. Allen Barbre fails again. Marshall Newhouse can't anchor inside. Lang isn't able to punch and grab. Bulaga finally is moved inside in October, but by then it's too late."
- Defensive lineman Justin Harrell's career is on the brink, according to the Green Bay Press-Gazette.
- The Detroit Lions would be better off having running back Jahvid Best hold out than defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh, writes Carlos Monarrez of the Detroit Free Press.
We're Black and Blue All Over:
Chicago Bears
ChicagoBears.com started a video series covering the team’s rookie minicamp. The first installment features rookies Corey Wootton, Zeke Markshausen, Josh Moore and J’Marcus Webb.
Detroit Lions
The Lions placed defensive end Copeland Bryan on the injured reserve list with a knee injury.
Coach Jim Schwartz liked what he saw from versatile first-round pick Jahvid Best at a recent minicamp. Schwartz: "We've used him as a wide receiver. We've used him in the slot. We've used him as a running back. We've ran the ball, thrown the ball. He's been exposed to everything. He's a good, smart player. That's why we drafted him."
Green Bay Packers
Charles Woodson thinks Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers is the best in the league.
The man convicted of robbing and beating former Packers receiver Javon Walker was sentenced Wednesday to life in prison without parole.
ESPNMilwaukee's Jason Wilde talks with offensive lineman Allen Barbre, who lost his job in the starting lineup and will be in a battle just to make the Packers' roster this summer.
Minnesota Vikings
Cardinals receiver Larry Fitzgerald fully expects Brett Favre to return this season, but he wouldn't mind if he didn't.
Chicago Bears
ChicagoBears.com started a video series covering the team’s rookie minicamp. The first installment features rookies Corey Wootton, Zeke Markshausen, Josh Moore and J’Marcus Webb.
Detroit Lions
The Lions placed defensive end Copeland Bryan on the injured reserve list with a knee injury.
Coach Jim Schwartz liked what he saw from versatile first-round pick Jahvid Best at a recent minicamp. Schwartz: "We've used him as a wide receiver. We've used him in the slot. We've used him as a running back. We've ran the ball, thrown the ball. He's been exposed to everything. He's a good, smart player. That's why we drafted him."
Green Bay Packers
Charles Woodson thinks Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers is the best in the league.
The man convicted of robbing and beating former Packers receiver Javon Walker was sentenced Wednesday to life in prison without parole.
ESPNMilwaukee's Jason Wilde talks with offensive lineman Allen Barbre, who lost his job in the starting lineup and will be in a battle just to make the Packers' roster this summer.
Minnesota Vikings
Cardinals receiver Larry Fitzgerald fully expects Brett Favre to return this season, but he wouldn't mind if he didn't.
ORLANDO, Fla. -- We've already caught up with Green Bay Packers coach Mike McCarthy on a number of issues this week, so I didn't spend too much time at his table during Wednesday's NFC coaches breakfast. In perusing transcripts of his interview session, however, one topic stuck out.
LangMcCarthy said there is a "difference of opinion" on the long-term position of offensive lineman T.J. Lang. Although he played tackle last season, McCarthy said he believes Lang is a "natural left guard when I look at his body."
I'm not sure what to make of that sentiment. My first reaction was that it could be intended to tweak left guard Daryn Colledge, a restricted free agent who hasn't signed his tender and isn't necessarily guaranteed a starting job in 2010.
But Lang wouldn't be the first position-flexible offensive lineman the Packers have drafted who bounced around the line in the early part of his career. Colledge has played at both tackle and guard positions. Jason Spitz has seen action at both guard and center. Allen Barbre has played left guard and right tackle.
There's nothing wrong with spending some time identifying a player's best position. But I know McCarthy would prefer to have more certainty in that area. That would start by making a decision on Lang's future -- and sticking with it.

I'm not sure what to make of that sentiment. My first reaction was that it could be intended to tweak left guard Daryn Colledge, a restricted free agent who hasn't signed his tender and isn't necessarily guaranteed a starting job in 2010.
But Lang wouldn't be the first position-flexible offensive lineman the Packers have drafted who bounced around the line in the early part of his career. Colledge has played at both tackle and guard positions. Jason Spitz has seen action at both guard and center. Allen Barbre has played left guard and right tackle.
There's nothing wrong with spending some time identifying a player's best position. But I know McCarthy would prefer to have more certainty in that area. That would start by making a decision on Lang's future -- and sticking with it.
Wow. We just wrapped up one of the busiest weeks in the NFC North in some time. I felt like I was writing all day, every day. We had two teams headed to the playoffs, a third planning to swap out two coordinators and a fourth making some news late in the week.
It all happened while we were trying to put a bow on some of our central themes of the season, including Brett Favre’s impact on Minnesota, the changing face of NFC North offenses and the development of young tight ends within the division. Let’s continue that wrap-up, using questions from the mailbag and Facebook. (You can also send questions and thoughts to me via Twitter.)
Let’s get to it:
Kyle of West Des Moines, Iowa, writes: Early in the preseason, there was a discussion between you and the AFC North blogger about which division would come out on top between the two. I was wondering if you could revisit that discussion!
Kevin Seifert: Great idea Kyle! I presume you’re talking about this post from July. I offered seven points on the AFC North–NFC North matchup.
First, we should count up the record and realize the 16 games between the four teams were split down the middle. Each division went 8-8 against the other. Let’s look at the breakdown, naturally from an NFC North perspective:
Minnesota (3-1): Beat Cleveland, Baltimore and Cincinnati. Lost to Pittsburgh.
Green Bay (2-2): Beat Baltimore and Cleveland. Lost to Cincinnati and Pittsburgh.
Chicago (2-2): Beat Pittsburgh, Cleveland. Lost to Cincinnati, Baltimore.
Detroit (1-3): Beat Cleveland. Lost to Cincinnati, Baltimore and Pittsburgh.
Now, let’s look at the seven points I made at the time and reconcile them with the facts.
I wrote then: Detroit was 0-16 last season, but its new coach went 4-0 against the AFC North in his previous job. As the defensive coordinator in Tennessee, Jim Schwartz helped the Titans defeat Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Cleveland and Cincinnati. Included in that run was a 31-14 late-December shellacking of the Steelers. Schwartz's new team is in a much different place than the Titans were last season, but it's a rare advantage to have seen all four interconference opponents the previous season. The Lions can use every edge they can find.
I see now: The Lions won only one of the four, but it’s worth noting they were relatively close against the Steelers (28-20) and Bengals (23-13) before getting crushed by the Ravens (48-3).
I wrote then: Who will have the last laugh between Baltimore linebacker Ray Lewis and Minnesota tailback Adrian Peterson (Oct. 18)? As you might recall, Peterson said at the Pro Bowl that he wanted to gain 12 pounds during the offseason. "I don't think too many guys would be excited to see me at 230 two times a year," Peterson said. But his father told USA Today last month that a group of veterans -- including Lewis -- "set up" his son, hoping to convince him to make a change that ultimately would slow him down. Let's see if Peterson, who by all accounts will remain close to his playing weight of 217 pounds, returns the favor.
I see now: Peterson ran for 143 yards on 22 carries in the Vikings' 33-31 victory. Case closed.
I wrote then: The AFC North boasts two of the game's best pass-rushing linebackers in Pittsburgh's James Harrison (16 sacks in 2008) and Baltimore's Terrell Suggs (eight). You never know exactly where outside linebackers will line up in a 3-4 defense, but I'm guessing they'll find their way toward the NFC North's host of young right tackles. Chicago (Chris Williams), Minnesota (Phil Loadholt) and Green Bay (Allen Barbre or T.J. Lang) are all expected to have new starters at the position -- and Detroit's Gosder Cherilus is entering his first full season as a starter. Defensive coordinators would be remiss not to test all four spots.
I see now: I don’t have the breakdown of where he was lined up, but I can tell you that Harrison had five of his 10 sacks this season against NFC North opponents. Three came against the Lions and two against the Vikings. Suggs, limited by injuries this season, did not have a sack against the NFC North.
I wrote then: This season will be a referendum on whether Orlando Pace can still play left tackle in the NFL. During the free-agent period, Baltimore heavily courted Pace but wanted him to move to right tackle so that youngster Jared Gaither could continue his development on the left side. Pace, however, wanted to maintain his traditional position and ultimately signed with Chicago. The Ravens have installed rookie Michael Oher as their new right tackle and suddenly have a raw set of tackles. We'll soon find out if Pace can give the Bears a full year at left tackle, or whether the Ravens were right to hold firm on youth.
I see now: The Ravens won on this decision. Pace was ineffective for most of the season before being sidelined by a leg injury. Even after he returned to health, the Bears respectfully left him on the bench. Oher, meanwhile, was one of the NFL’s best rookies this season.
I wrote then: To the extent that practicing against a 3-4 defense helps in game preparation, Green Bay should have a clear advantage over its NFC North rivals. The Packers' offense spent all spring practicing against its 3-4 scheme and won't face that choppy in-season transition when preparing for the Steelers, Ravens and Browns. This is becoming less of an issue every year as more NFL teams return to the 3-4 -- the total is expected to be 13 in 2009 -- but familiarity can only help the Packers in this vein.
I see now: The Packers finished 2-1 against AFC North teams that run a 3-4, beating the Ravens and Browns while losing to the Steelers.
I wrote then: The Bears, Packers and Lions all are working hard to improve their weak pass rush. Two AFC North teams -- Cincinnati and Pittsburgh -- are hoping to shore up their pass protection. Which teams can make quicker enhancements? You might know that the Bengals gave up the NFL's third-most sacks last season (51). But it might have escaped you that the Steelers were right behind them with 49 sacks allowed. It almost goes without saying that the best way to stop the Bengals' Carson Palmer and the Steelers' Ben Roethlisberger is to keep them from throwing the ball.
I see now: The Bears had no sacks against the Bengals and two against the Steelers. The Packers had two and five, respectively. The Lions had two and three.
I wrote then: AFC North teams like to think of themselves the same way we do here in the Black and Blue, as hard-nosed, bad-weather running teams. Minnesota defensive tackles Kevin Williams and Pat Williams are two of the best run-stoppers in the game, and there's a little stretch of the season where they would be particularly missed should their NFL suspensions kick in. (Such a scenario would require a prolonged but ultimately unsuccessful legal challenge to their NFL discipline.) The Vikings play Baltimore and Pittsburgh in consecutive October weeks (Oct. 18 against the Ravens and Oct. 25 at Pittsburgh). That makes for two old-fashioned football matchups -- if the Williams Wall is on the field.
I see now: With both members of the Williams Wall on the field, the Vikings gave up 81 rushing yards to the Ravens and 107 to the Steelers. Neither total figured in the outcome of either game.
I wrote then: Who benefits most? In some ways, this schedule ensures that each NFC North team will be playing 10 divisional games this season. There are many similarities between the general styles of the Black and Blue and AFC North. Minnesota's defense should match the intensity of the physical offenses of Pittsburgh and Baltimore. Green Bay's offense shouldn't be surprised by the 3-4 defense, but its own defense won't have the advantage of surprise, either. It's too early to make specific predictions, but it's safe to say that whoever has the divisional advantage in the NFC North will also fare best against the AFC North.
I see then: The Vikings won the NFC North and also had the best record against the AFC North. Ding-ding-ding!
Robert of Oostburg Wis., writes: Hello. Dom Capers was not the first choice for defensive coordinator for the Packers last offseason. Could you compare the job he got done this year with the few others that got away. I think the Packers got the steal of the year.
Kevin Seifert: You’re right. The Packers interviewed several candidates who ultimately went elsewhere, including Mike Nolan (Denver) and Gregg Williams (New Orleans). The Broncos defense finished the season ranked No. 7 in the NFL. The Saints finished No. 27, but Williams scheme did create the second-most turnovers in the NFL and played a big role in the Saints’ hot start.
That said, I don’t think there’s any doubt Capers’ defense had the best season of that group. Capers is well known for making an immediate impact, and that’s exactly what the Packers got this season.
Keith writes: Is there a more natural way to make Week 17 more competitive than to seed teams based on overall record? Arizona surely would've showed up last week.
Kevin Seifert: I wish there were, Keith. To date, I haven’t heard or thought of any that make sense.
Awarding teams draft picks to continue playing their starters seems counterintuitive. Would a sixth- or seventh-round pick be enough to risk the health of a key player? I don’t think so. And what would it say about the league that it must reward teams for competing?
Penalizing teams for sitting starters is also problematic. The decision can have too much gray area. How long would the player have to be on the field? What would prevent him from leaving because of “tightness?” or some other nebulous injury?
Weighing playoff seedings disproportionally based on late-season record doesn’t fly with me, either. Shouldn’t every game count the same?
Ultimately, I think the NFL should be patient and see what happens to Indianapolis, especially, this postseason. It’s a copycat league. If the Colts are bounced early from the playoffs, you can bet future coaches in the same position would think twice about benching starters.
Jonathan writes via Facebook: So....when do we find out that Woodson won DPOY?
Kevin Seifert: The Associated Press will announce the Defensive Player of the Year Award next Wednesday, Jan. 13. That’s when we’ll find out if Green Bay cornerback Charles Woodson won it.
It all happened while we were trying to put a bow on some of our central themes of the season, including Brett Favre’s impact on Minnesota, the changing face of NFC North offenses and the development of young tight ends within the division. Let’s continue that wrap-up, using questions from the mailbag and Facebook. (You can also send questions and thoughts to me via Twitter.)
Let’s get to it:
Kyle of West Des Moines, Iowa, writes: Early in the preseason, there was a discussion between you and the AFC North blogger about which division would come out on top between the two. I was wondering if you could revisit that discussion!
Kevin Seifert: Great idea Kyle! I presume you’re talking about this post from July. I offered seven points on the AFC North–NFC North matchup.
First, we should count up the record and realize the 16 games between the four teams were split down the middle. Each division went 8-8 against the other. Let’s look at the breakdown, naturally from an NFC North perspective:
Minnesota (3-1): Beat Cleveland, Baltimore and Cincinnati. Lost to Pittsburgh.
Green Bay (2-2): Beat Baltimore and Cleveland. Lost to Cincinnati and Pittsburgh.
Chicago (2-2): Beat Pittsburgh, Cleveland. Lost to Cincinnati, Baltimore.
Detroit (1-3): Beat Cleveland. Lost to Cincinnati, Baltimore and Pittsburgh.
Now, let’s look at the seven points I made at the time and reconcile them with the facts.
I wrote then: Detroit was 0-16 last season, but its new coach went 4-0 against the AFC North in his previous job. As the defensive coordinator in Tennessee, Jim Schwartz helped the Titans defeat Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Cleveland and Cincinnati. Included in that run was a 31-14 late-December shellacking of the Steelers. Schwartz's new team is in a much different place than the Titans were last season, but it's a rare advantage to have seen all four interconference opponents the previous season. The Lions can use every edge they can find.
I see now: The Lions won only one of the four, but it’s worth noting they were relatively close against the Steelers (28-20) and Bengals (23-13) before getting crushed by the Ravens (48-3).
I wrote then: Who will have the last laugh between Baltimore linebacker Ray Lewis and Minnesota tailback Adrian Peterson (Oct. 18)? As you might recall, Peterson said at the Pro Bowl that he wanted to gain 12 pounds during the offseason. "I don't think too many guys would be excited to see me at 230 two times a year," Peterson said. But his father told USA Today last month that a group of veterans -- including Lewis -- "set up" his son, hoping to convince him to make a change that ultimately would slow him down. Let's see if Peterson, who by all accounts will remain close to his playing weight of 217 pounds, returns the favor.
I see now: Peterson ran for 143 yards on 22 carries in the Vikings' 33-31 victory. Case closed.
I wrote then: The AFC North boasts two of the game's best pass-rushing linebackers in Pittsburgh's James Harrison (16 sacks in 2008) and Baltimore's Terrell Suggs (eight). You never know exactly where outside linebackers will line up in a 3-4 defense, but I'm guessing they'll find their way toward the NFC North's host of young right tackles. Chicago (Chris Williams), Minnesota (Phil Loadholt) and Green Bay (Allen Barbre or T.J. Lang) are all expected to have new starters at the position -- and Detroit's Gosder Cherilus is entering his first full season as a starter. Defensive coordinators would be remiss not to test all four spots.
I see now: I don’t have the breakdown of where he was lined up, but I can tell you that Harrison had five of his 10 sacks this season against NFC North opponents. Three came against the Lions and two against the Vikings. Suggs, limited by injuries this season, did not have a sack against the NFC North.
I wrote then: This season will be a referendum on whether Orlando Pace can still play left tackle in the NFL. During the free-agent period, Baltimore heavily courted Pace but wanted him to move to right tackle so that youngster Jared Gaither could continue his development on the left side. Pace, however, wanted to maintain his traditional position and ultimately signed with Chicago. The Ravens have installed rookie Michael Oher as their new right tackle and suddenly have a raw set of tackles. We'll soon find out if Pace can give the Bears a full year at left tackle, or whether the Ravens were right to hold firm on youth.
I see now: The Ravens won on this decision. Pace was ineffective for most of the season before being sidelined by a leg injury. Even after he returned to health, the Bears respectfully left him on the bench. Oher, meanwhile, was one of the NFL’s best rookies this season.
I wrote then: To the extent that practicing against a 3-4 defense helps in game preparation, Green Bay should have a clear advantage over its NFC North rivals. The Packers' offense spent all spring practicing against its 3-4 scheme and won't face that choppy in-season transition when preparing for the Steelers, Ravens and Browns. This is becoming less of an issue every year as more NFL teams return to the 3-4 -- the total is expected to be 13 in 2009 -- but familiarity can only help the Packers in this vein.
I see now: The Packers finished 2-1 against AFC North teams that run a 3-4, beating the Ravens and Browns while losing to the Steelers.
I wrote then: The Bears, Packers and Lions all are working hard to improve their weak pass rush. Two AFC North teams -- Cincinnati and Pittsburgh -- are hoping to shore up their pass protection. Which teams can make quicker enhancements? You might know that the Bengals gave up the NFL's third-most sacks last season (51). But it might have escaped you that the Steelers were right behind them with 49 sacks allowed. It almost goes without saying that the best way to stop the Bengals' Carson Palmer and the Steelers' Ben Roethlisberger is to keep them from throwing the ball.
I see now: The Bears had no sacks against the Bengals and two against the Steelers. The Packers had two and five, respectively. The Lions had two and three.
I wrote then: AFC North teams like to think of themselves the same way we do here in the Black and Blue, as hard-nosed, bad-weather running teams. Minnesota defensive tackles Kevin Williams and Pat Williams are two of the best run-stoppers in the game, and there's a little stretch of the season where they would be particularly missed should their NFL suspensions kick in. (Such a scenario would require a prolonged but ultimately unsuccessful legal challenge to their NFL discipline.) The Vikings play Baltimore and Pittsburgh in consecutive October weeks (Oct. 18 against the Ravens and Oct. 25 at Pittsburgh). That makes for two old-fashioned football matchups -- if the Williams Wall is on the field.
I see now: With both members of the Williams Wall on the field, the Vikings gave up 81 rushing yards to the Ravens and 107 to the Steelers. Neither total figured in the outcome of either game.
I wrote then: Who benefits most? In some ways, this schedule ensures that each NFC North team will be playing 10 divisional games this season. There are many similarities between the general styles of the Black and Blue and AFC North. Minnesota's defense should match the intensity of the physical offenses of Pittsburgh and Baltimore. Green Bay's offense shouldn't be surprised by the 3-4 defense, but its own defense won't have the advantage of surprise, either. It's too early to make specific predictions, but it's safe to say that whoever has the divisional advantage in the NFC North will also fare best against the AFC North.
I see then: The Vikings won the NFC North and also had the best record against the AFC North. Ding-ding-ding!
Robert of Oostburg Wis., writes: Hello. Dom Capers was not the first choice for defensive coordinator for the Packers last offseason. Could you compare the job he got done this year with the few others that got away. I think the Packers got the steal of the year.
Kevin Seifert: You’re right. The Packers interviewed several candidates who ultimately went elsewhere, including Mike Nolan (Denver) and Gregg Williams (New Orleans). The Broncos defense finished the season ranked No. 7 in the NFL. The Saints finished No. 27, but Williams scheme did create the second-most turnovers in the NFL and played a big role in the Saints’ hot start.
That said, I don’t think there’s any doubt Capers’ defense had the best season of that group. Capers is well known for making an immediate impact, and that’s exactly what the Packers got this season.
Keith writes: Is there a more natural way to make Week 17 more competitive than to seed teams based on overall record? Arizona surely would've showed up last week.
Kevin Seifert: I wish there were, Keith. To date, I haven’t heard or thought of any that make sense.
Awarding teams draft picks to continue playing their starters seems counterintuitive. Would a sixth- or seventh-round pick be enough to risk the health of a key player? I don’t think so. And what would it say about the league that it must reward teams for competing?
Penalizing teams for sitting starters is also problematic. The decision can have too much gray area. How long would the player have to be on the field? What would prevent him from leaving because of “tightness?” or some other nebulous injury?
Weighing playoff seedings disproportionally based on late-season record doesn’t fly with me, either. Shouldn’t every game count the same?
Ultimately, I think the NFL should be patient and see what happens to Indianapolis, especially, this postseason. It’s a copycat league. If the Colts are bounced early from the playoffs, you can bet future coaches in the same position would think twice about benching starters.
Jonathan writes via Facebook: So....when do we find out that Woodson won DPOY?
Kevin Seifert: The Associated Press will announce the Defensive Player of the Year Award next Wednesday, Jan. 13. That’s when we’ll find out if Green Bay cornerback Charles Woodson won it.
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A team-by-team analysis of the division. The arrow indicates which direction each team is trending.
Minnesota Vikings
Final Power Ranking: 3
Biggest surprise: Against all odds and previous trends, Minnesota became a passing team. Coach Brad Childress prefers a power running approach, one honed during his time as the offensive coordinator at the University of Wisconsin, and he built one of the league’s best behind Adrian Peterson over the previous two seasons. The recruitment of quarterback Brett Favre was intended to provide a viable alternative when defenses ganged-up on Peterson. Instead, the Vikings proved they are better equipped to throw than force the run against defenses stacked to stop Peterson. All told, the Vikings threw 101 more passes in 2009 than they did last season -- an 18 percent increase. Their net yardage rose nearly 25 percent, and they threw as many touchdown passes (34) as they did in the 2007 and 2008 seasons combined.
Biggest disappointment: Play at both safety positions was invisible at its best and glaring at its worst. Veteran Madieu Williams, signed two years ago because of his alleged coverage ability, started all 16 games but failed to make a single interception. Along the way, he proved to be a poor tackler and broke up only four passes. Second-year player Tyrell Johnson, who the Vikings targeted last season as Darren Sharper’s eventual replacement, was average at best. It was no coincidence that he lost some playing time to rookie Jamarca Sanford at the end of the season.
Biggest need: A ball-hawking safety would help, but as odd as it sounds, the biggest organizational need is a long-term plan at quarterback. Favre turned 40 in October and is very much a year-to-year proposition. Childress remains supportive of backup Tarvaris Jackson, but the success of the 2009 offense was another indictment of Jackson’s previous ineffectiveness. Childress has never seemed comfortable with No. 3 quarterback Sage Rosenfels. If there were ever a time for the Vikings to draft their quarterback of the future, it’s now.
Team MVP: Brett Favre. As the Vikings hoped, he was the final piece in making them a Super Bowl contender. He was the difference between 10-6 and 12-4, and gives the Vikings a legitimate chance to push deep into the playoffs.
Best thing that never happened: Signing free-agent receiver T.J. Houshmandzadeh. The Vikings targeted Houshmandzadeh at the start of free agency and were on the brink of signing him. Concerns about the pre-Favre quarterback situation prompted Houshmandzadeh to spurn their offer and join Seattle. Had he signed in Minnesota, however, one of the Vikings’ key players would never have emerged. They would have either stunted the development of third-year receiver Sidney Rice, who made the Pro Bowl with an 83-catch season, or might not have drafted slot receiver Percy Harvin. The NFL’s offensive rookie of the year, Harvin, made the Pro Bowl as a kick returner but also ranked second on the team with 60 receptions and 790 yards.
Green Bay Packers
Final Power Ranking: 6
Biggest surprise: The sudden pass-rushing prowess of rookie linebacker Clay Matthews. Packers general manager Ted Thompson thought highly enough of Matthews to trade back into the first round and select him with the No. 26 overall pick. Matthews had only 4.5 sacks as a senior at Southern California, and a series of spring and summer leg injuries suggested he would have a slow rookie season. But after being inserted into the starting lineup in the fourth game of the season, Matthews collected a team-high 10 sacks. By the end of the year, he couldn’t be blocked. Matthews finished third in the NFL’s Defensive Rookie of the Year award voting and should be a force for years to come.
Biggest disappointment: The Week 1 offensive line. Quite simply, the Packers are lucky that quarterback Aaron Rodgers survived the first half of the season. Rodgers might have held the ball too long on occasion, but for the most part he was under constant pressure from opposing defenses. Rodgers, in fact, took 37 sacks over the first eight games. The Packers took an unjustified risk in starting Allen Barbre at right tackle and didn’t have a good plan to replace left tackle Chad Clifton when he was sidelined by injuries. They deserve credit for finding a multi-pronged solution, including the return of right tackle Mark Tauscher, but that came only after they dug themselves a huge hole.
Biggest need: Depth behind tailback Ryan Grant would help, but the Packers need a long-term answer at both offensive tackle positions. Clifton and Tauscher will be free agents after the season. Rookie T.J. Lang could figure at one of the positions, but the Packers must address the other high in the 2010 draft.
Team MVP: Cornerback Charles Woodson. A favorite for the NFL’s Defensive Player of the Year award, Woodson was at his best in Dom Capers’ attacking 3-4 scheme. He has retained his coverage skills at age 33, and he also proved to be the Packers’ best blitzer and all-around playmaker. His final tally was nine interceptions, three of which he returned for touchdowns, along with two sacks and four forced fumbles.
A dark moment turns bright: After finishing 6-10 last season, coach Mike McCarthy retreated to Lambeau Field and went underground for nearly a week. When he emerged, McCarthy had decided to turn over much of his coaching staff. Out of that tumultuous time period came the decision to change defensive schemes and, ultimately, hire Capers. The end result was the NFL’s No. 2 defense, one that allowed the league’s fewest rushing yards (1,333) and created its highest total of turnovers (40).
Chicago Bears
Final power ranking: 22
Biggest surprise: That new quarterback Jay Cutler would turn into an interception machine. Cutler brought a gunslinging mentality from Denver, but never in his previous three seasons had he finished with more interceptions than touchdown passes. In his first 14 games with the Bears, however, Cutler threw 25 interceptions against 19 touchdowns. A late surge reversed that ratio, but it won’t hide the fact that Cutler personally submarined at least three losses -- at Green Bay, Atlanta and San Francisco -- with multiple interceptions. He threw a total of 11 in those games.
Biggest disappointment: Tailback Matt Forte. There were reports recently that Forte played most of the season with a sprained knee. That could explain the drop-off from his rookie season and especially his lack of power near the goal line. According to ESPN Stats & Information, Forte had the third-most goal-to-goal carries in the NFL this season (33). But he managed only three touchdowns on those carries, a ratio that ranked him No. 102 among all rushers who got a carry in that situation. How many more games would the Bears have won if they had converted more of those runs? Among other things, it would have left Cutler in fewer positions where he felt compelled to force a pass into the end zone.
Biggest need: The Bears need an enforcer on their defense, which has lost the intimidation factor it carried into the Super Bowl three years ago. That player could come at any position, but it’s most needed at safety. The Bears need someone who can put fear in receivers and influence quarterback decisions. That’s not necessarily a hallmark of the Tampa 2 defense coach Lovie Smith plans to continue using, but it could change the way the Bears are perceived by opposing offenses.
Team MVP: Only because it’s a required category: Linebacker Lance Briggs was the Bears’ lone Pro Bowler and their leading tackler. He was also a 15-game starter on a defense that played terribly for most of 2009.
In hindsight: The Bears executed only 50 percent of their goal to improve their quarterback play. They paid a premium price to get a young and potentially elite arm in Cutler. But they failed to follow through with appropriate integration. Cutler didn’t appear comfortable in a pocket scheme and, despite what anyone says, had mostly limited targets. None of his receivers required a double team, which made the offense easier for opponents to defend. The Bears will have to spend the offseason reformulating their plan around him.
Detroit Lions
Final power ranking: 31
Biggest surprise: We knew quarterback Matthew Stafford had an elite arm. It’s what rocketed him to the top of the draft charts at this time last year. But was there any way to know how much of a “gamer” he is? Opponents battered Stafford in several games this season, none more so than his now-legendary Nov. 22 victory over Cleveland. Every player on the Lions’ roster -- from the biggest offensive linemen to the smallest receiver -- knows how tough their leader is. When the Lions refused to rest his separated left shoulder, Stafford made two more starts with the help of painkilling medication before finally shutting it down. Stafford's greatest contribution would be spreading that determination to the rest of the roster.
Biggest disappointment: The Lions hired two respected defensive minds last winter in head coach Jim Schwartz and coordinator Gunther Cunningham. But ultimately their defense made only incremental improvement from last season’s 0-16 group. Opponents threw at will against Detroit, completing 68.1 percent of their passes for 35 touchdowns and only nine interceptions. Personnel is thin at all defensive positions, but the Lions could have used more help from a scheme perspective.
Biggest need: Schwartz had a blunt answer when asked this week of his team’s biggest offseason need: “Improve the talent level of the team.” Let’s focus that goal on the defense, where depth is frighteningly thin. Entering the offseason, the Lions have three defensive players who seem locked in to start in 2010: Defensive tackle Sammie Lee Hill, linebacker DeAndre Levy and safety Louis Delmas. What do the Lions need? Starters at the other eight positions and depth behind everyone. That should about do it.
Team MVP: Safety Louis Delmas. Stafford would have been in the running if he had made it through the season. But time and again over 16 games, Delmas proved to be a player the Lions can build around. He demonstrated aggressive tackling, strong ball skills and an admirable competitive edge. Like many young safeties, he ventured into unsportsmanlike conduct territory a few times, and he needs to level off that portion of his game. But in the meantime, there’s nothing wrong with having a feared player on a defense that has long been anything but.
In hindsight: We were among those who questioned the decision to draft tight end Brandon Pettigrew with the No. 20 overall pick, especially with offensive lineman Michael Oher and linebacker Rey Maualuga still available. No matter how good Pettigrew proved to be, is the tight end position more important than an offensive tackle or linebacker? The answer is no. The Lions still have tremendous needs at both positions. But we should say this much: Pettigrew proved not only a strong blocker, but also a dynamic part of the passing game before suffering a season-ending knee injury. He was a good tight end, but having one of those is generally a luxury.
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Final Power Ranking: 3
Biggest surprise: Against all odds and previous trends, Minnesota became a passing team. Coach Brad Childress prefers a power running approach, one honed during his time as the offensive coordinator at the University of Wisconsin, and he built one of the league’s best behind Adrian Peterson over the previous two seasons. The recruitment of quarterback Brett Favre was intended to provide a viable alternative when defenses ganged-up on Peterson. Instead, the Vikings proved they are better equipped to throw than force the run against defenses stacked to stop Peterson. All told, the Vikings threw 101 more passes in 2009 than they did last season -- an 18 percent increase. Their net yardage rose nearly 25 percent, and they threw as many touchdown passes (34) as they did in the 2007 and 2008 seasons combined.
Biggest disappointment: Play at both safety positions was invisible at its best and glaring at its worst. Veteran Madieu Williams, signed two years ago because of his alleged coverage ability, started all 16 games but failed to make a single interception. Along the way, he proved to be a poor tackler and broke up only four passes. Second-year player Tyrell Johnson, who the Vikings targeted last season as Darren Sharper’s eventual replacement, was average at best. It was no coincidence that he lost some playing time to rookie Jamarca Sanford at the end of the season.
Biggest need: A ball-hawking safety would help, but as odd as it sounds, the biggest organizational need is a long-term plan at quarterback. Favre turned 40 in October and is very much a year-to-year proposition. Childress remains supportive of backup Tarvaris Jackson, but the success of the 2009 offense was another indictment of Jackson’s previous ineffectiveness. Childress has never seemed comfortable with No. 3 quarterback Sage Rosenfels. If there were ever a time for the Vikings to draft their quarterback of the future, it’s now.
Team MVP: Brett Favre. As the Vikings hoped, he was the final piece in making them a Super Bowl contender. He was the difference between 10-6 and 12-4, and gives the Vikings a legitimate chance to push deep into the playoffs.
Best thing that never happened: Signing free-agent receiver T.J. Houshmandzadeh. The Vikings targeted Houshmandzadeh at the start of free agency and were on the brink of signing him. Concerns about the pre-Favre quarterback situation prompted Houshmandzadeh to spurn their offer and join Seattle. Had he signed in Minnesota, however, one of the Vikings’ key players would never have emerged. They would have either stunted the development of third-year receiver Sidney Rice, who made the Pro Bowl with an 83-catch season, or might not have drafted slot receiver Percy Harvin. The NFL’s offensive rookie of the year, Harvin, made the Pro Bowl as a kick returner but also ranked second on the team with 60 receptions and 790 yards.
Final Power Ranking: 6
Biggest surprise: The sudden pass-rushing prowess of rookie linebacker Clay Matthews. Packers general manager Ted Thompson thought highly enough of Matthews to trade back into the first round and select him with the No. 26 overall pick. Matthews had only 4.5 sacks as a senior at Southern California, and a series of spring and summer leg injuries suggested he would have a slow rookie season. But after being inserted into the starting lineup in the fourth game of the season, Matthews collected a team-high 10 sacks. By the end of the year, he couldn’t be blocked. Matthews finished third in the NFL’s Defensive Rookie of the Year award voting and should be a force for years to come.
Biggest disappointment: The Week 1 offensive line. Quite simply, the Packers are lucky that quarterback Aaron Rodgers survived the first half of the season. Rodgers might have held the ball too long on occasion, but for the most part he was under constant pressure from opposing defenses. Rodgers, in fact, took 37 sacks over the first eight games. The Packers took an unjustified risk in starting Allen Barbre at right tackle and didn’t have a good plan to replace left tackle Chad Clifton when he was sidelined by injuries. They deserve credit for finding a multi-pronged solution, including the return of right tackle Mark Tauscher, but that came only after they dug themselves a huge hole.
Biggest need: Depth behind tailback Ryan Grant would help, but the Packers need a long-term answer at both offensive tackle positions. Clifton and Tauscher will be free agents after the season. Rookie T.J. Lang could figure at one of the positions, but the Packers must address the other high in the 2010 draft.
Team MVP: Cornerback Charles Woodson. A favorite for the NFL’s Defensive Player of the Year award, Woodson was at his best in Dom Capers’ attacking 3-4 scheme. He has retained his coverage skills at age 33, and he also proved to be the Packers’ best blitzer and all-around playmaker. His final tally was nine interceptions, three of which he returned for touchdowns, along with two sacks and four forced fumbles.
A dark moment turns bright: After finishing 6-10 last season, coach Mike McCarthy retreated to Lambeau Field and went underground for nearly a week. When he emerged, McCarthy had decided to turn over much of his coaching staff. Out of that tumultuous time period came the decision to change defensive schemes and, ultimately, hire Capers. The end result was the NFL’s No. 2 defense, one that allowed the league’s fewest rushing yards (1,333) and created its highest total of turnovers (40).
Final power ranking: 22
Biggest surprise: That new quarterback Jay Cutler would turn into an interception machine. Cutler brought a gunslinging mentality from Denver, but never in his previous three seasons had he finished with more interceptions than touchdown passes. In his first 14 games with the Bears, however, Cutler threw 25 interceptions against 19 touchdowns. A late surge reversed that ratio, but it won’t hide the fact that Cutler personally submarined at least three losses -- at Green Bay, Atlanta and San Francisco -- with multiple interceptions. He threw a total of 11 in those games.
Biggest disappointment: Tailback Matt Forte. There were reports recently that Forte played most of the season with a sprained knee. That could explain the drop-off from his rookie season and especially his lack of power near the goal line. According to ESPN Stats & Information, Forte had the third-most goal-to-goal carries in the NFL this season (33). But he managed only three touchdowns on those carries, a ratio that ranked him No. 102 among all rushers who got a carry in that situation. How many more games would the Bears have won if they had converted more of those runs? Among other things, it would have left Cutler in fewer positions where he felt compelled to force a pass into the end zone.
Biggest need: The Bears need an enforcer on their defense, which has lost the intimidation factor it carried into the Super Bowl three years ago. That player could come at any position, but it’s most needed at safety. The Bears need someone who can put fear in receivers and influence quarterback decisions. That’s not necessarily a hallmark of the Tampa 2 defense coach Lovie Smith plans to continue using, but it could change the way the Bears are perceived by opposing offenses.
Team MVP: Only because it’s a required category: Linebacker Lance Briggs was the Bears’ lone Pro Bowler and their leading tackler. He was also a 15-game starter on a defense that played terribly for most of 2009.
In hindsight: The Bears executed only 50 percent of their goal to improve their quarterback play. They paid a premium price to get a young and potentially elite arm in Cutler. But they failed to follow through with appropriate integration. Cutler didn’t appear comfortable in a pocket scheme and, despite what anyone says, had mostly limited targets. None of his receivers required a double team, which made the offense easier for opponents to defend. The Bears will have to spend the offseason reformulating their plan around him.
Final power ranking: 31
Biggest surprise: We knew quarterback Matthew Stafford had an elite arm. It’s what rocketed him to the top of the draft charts at this time last year. But was there any way to know how much of a “gamer” he is? Opponents battered Stafford in several games this season, none more so than his now-legendary Nov. 22 victory over Cleveland. Every player on the Lions’ roster -- from the biggest offensive linemen to the smallest receiver -- knows how tough their leader is. When the Lions refused to rest his separated left shoulder, Stafford made two more starts with the help of painkilling medication before finally shutting it down. Stafford's greatest contribution would be spreading that determination to the rest of the roster.
Biggest disappointment: The Lions hired two respected defensive minds last winter in head coach Jim Schwartz and coordinator Gunther Cunningham. But ultimately their defense made only incremental improvement from last season’s 0-16 group. Opponents threw at will against Detroit, completing 68.1 percent of their passes for 35 touchdowns and only nine interceptions. Personnel is thin at all defensive positions, but the Lions could have used more help from a scheme perspective.
Biggest need: Schwartz had a blunt answer when asked this week of his team’s biggest offseason need: “Improve the talent level of the team.” Let’s focus that goal on the defense, where depth is frighteningly thin. Entering the offseason, the Lions have three defensive players who seem locked in to start in 2010: Defensive tackle Sammie Lee Hill, linebacker DeAndre Levy and safety Louis Delmas. What do the Lions need? Starters at the other eight positions and depth behind everyone. That should about do it.
Team MVP: Safety Louis Delmas. Stafford would have been in the running if he had made it through the season. But time and again over 16 games, Delmas proved to be a player the Lions can build around. He demonstrated aggressive tackling, strong ball skills and an admirable competitive edge. Like many young safeties, he ventured into unsportsmanlike conduct territory a few times, and he needs to level off that portion of his game. But in the meantime, there’s nothing wrong with having a feared player on a defense that has long been anything but.
In hindsight: We were among those who questioned the decision to draft tight end Brandon Pettigrew with the No. 20 overall pick, especially with offensive lineman Michael Oher and linebacker Rey Maualuga still available. No matter how good Pettigrew proved to be, is the tight end position more important than an offensive tackle or linebacker? The answer is no. The Lions still have tremendous needs at both positions. But we should say this much: Pettigrew proved not only a strong blocker, but also a dynamic part of the passing game before suffering a season-ending knee injury. He was a good tight end, but having one of those is generally a luxury.
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AP Photo/Andy KingJay Cutler, the NFL's INT leader, will face the No. 2 defense in takeaways.
AP Photo/Andy KingJay Cutler, the NFL's INT leader, will face the No. 2 defense in takeaways.There are plenty of subplots to the Vikings-Bengals game, not the least of which is the expected brawl between Cincinnati receiver Chad Ochocinco and Minnesota mascot Ragnar. But as Steve Wyche of the NFL Network pointed out earlier this week, this game will feature defensive coordinators whose names could be in circulation for head-coaching jobs this offseason. Minnesota’s Leslie Frazier has interviewed for five jobs in the past two years and has the NFL’s eighth-ranked defense. Cincinnati’s Mike Zimmer has molded the Bengals into a hard-hitting group that ranks No. 4 overall, all while grieving the death of his wife.
One of the NFL’s leading interception throwers will take the field Sunday against the league’s second-best takeaway defense. Somethin’s got to give. Or something like that. No quarterback has thrown more interceptions than Chicago’s Jay Cutler (20). And the only team that has intercepted more passes than Green Bay (21) is New Orleans (23). If their game plan is anything like what they used last week against St. Louis, the Bears won’t give Cutler enough passing opportunities to throw a full complement of interceptions. The Packers have been stout against the run, but injuries to their top four defensive linemen might convince the Bears to pound the ball on the ground.
Chicago was the first team to expose Green Bay’s pass protection problems, coming in the teams’ first meeting Sept. 13. Defensive end Adewale Ogunleye mauled right tackle Allen Barbre for much of the night, and the Bears sacked quarterback Aaron Rodgers four times. But the Packers have made several recent adjustments to mitigate those problems, emphasizing shorter drops and replacing Barbre with Mark Tauscher. Rodgers was sacked 37 times in the Packers' first eight games but only eight times over the past four. The Bears will do their best to make life difficult for Rodgers, but the Packers should be better equipped this time around.
It’s not the ideal setting, but Detroit quarterback Daunte Culpepper will get a chance to put a full December game on film for scouts and personnel executives who will be looking at veteran quarterbacks this offseason. We’re assuming Culpepper won’t be back in Detroit next season, and it’s possible that starter Matthew Stafford (shoulder) will return to the starting lineup as early as next week. A strong game on the road, against a Baltimore team battling for a playoff spot, could put Culpepper back on the free-agent radar. Given the state of quarterbacking in the NFL, it’s reasonable to think Culpepper could spark some interest from teams looking for depth.
Some final tidbits as the countdown continues to Packers-Lions II:
Detroit Lions: What a mess the Lions have at safety. They placed starter Ko Simpson (knee) on injured reserve and declared Kalvin Pearson (hamstring) out of the game. Fellow starter Louis Delmas (ankle) is questionable but likely to play. Still, that leaves Marvin White as the only other safety available on the active roster. White was claimed off waivers from Dallas last month. … Linebacker Ernie Sims (hamstring) has also been declared out for the game, while quarterback Matthew Stafford (shoulder) and defensive end Dwayne White (toe) are doubtful and unlikely to play. … Receiver Calvin Johnson (knee, hand) is questionable but will be limited at best if he plays.
Green Bay Packers: An MRI showed no damage on center Scott Wells’ knee, so it appears he will start Thursday. Wells told Wisconsin reporters that “nothing’s torn” and that the swelling has receded. He’s officially listed as probable. Tailback Ahman Green (groin) and tackle Allen Barbre (ankle) are the only two players the Packers likely won’t have available to them.
Detroit Lions: What a mess the Lions have at safety. They placed starter Ko Simpson (knee) on injured reserve and declared Kalvin Pearson (hamstring) out of the game. Fellow starter Louis Delmas (ankle) is questionable but likely to play. Still, that leaves Marvin White as the only other safety available on the active roster. White was claimed off waivers from Dallas last month. … Linebacker Ernie Sims (hamstring) has also been declared out for the game, while quarterback Matthew Stafford (shoulder) and defensive end Dwayne White (toe) are doubtful and unlikely to play. … Receiver Calvin Johnson (knee, hand) is questionable but will be limited at best if he plays.
Green Bay Packers: An MRI showed no damage on center Scott Wells’ knee, so it appears he will start Thursday. Wells told Wisconsin reporters that “nothing’s torn” and that the swelling has receded. He’s officially listed as probable. Tailback Ahman Green (groin) and tackle Allen Barbre (ankle) are the only two players the Packers likely won’t have available to them.
Today is like a Wednesday, Thursday and Friday all rolled into one for Green Bay and Detroit as they prepare for a Thanksgiving Day matchup at Ford Field. Both teams have long injury lists and a short time to get healthy. Here’s the best we can gather from both teams:
Detroit Lions: Quarterback Matthew Stafford (shoulder) and receiver Calvin Johnson (hand/knee) were among six players who didn’t practice Tuesday. Stafford said he felt “a little sore” but it seems pretty clear that Daunte Culpepper will start in his place Thursday. Johnson’s status is less certain. Coach Jim Schwartz said: “He probably won't do much this whole week, but we'll see when it gets to Thursday, how full speed he's going to be or how much up to speed he'll be or whether he'll be able to go.” Safeties Kalvin Pearson (hamstring) and Ko Simpson (knee), linebacker Ernie Sims (hamstring) and defensive end Dewayne White (toe) also have uphill battles to play Thursday.
Green Bay Packers: Center Scott Wells (knee) didn’t practice and might not be ready to return in a short practice week. If that’s the case, rookie Evan Dietrich-Smith would become the third player to start a game at center for the Packers this season. Running back Ahman Green (groin) and tackle Allen Barbre (ankle) also didn’t practice. Brandon Jackson’s strong performance Sunday against San Francisco gives the Packers every reason to let Green heal fully before returning. Meanwhile, the Packers promoted cornerback Trevor Ford from the practice squad, according to Rob Demovsky of the Green Bay Press-Gazette.
Detroit Lions: Quarterback Matthew Stafford (shoulder) and receiver Calvin Johnson (hand/knee) were among six players who didn’t practice Tuesday. Stafford said he felt “a little sore” but it seems pretty clear that Daunte Culpepper will start in his place Thursday. Johnson’s status is less certain. Coach Jim Schwartz said: “He probably won't do much this whole week, but we'll see when it gets to Thursday, how full speed he's going to be or how much up to speed he'll be or whether he'll be able to go.” Safeties Kalvin Pearson (hamstring) and Ko Simpson (knee), linebacker Ernie Sims (hamstring) and defensive end Dewayne White (toe) also have uphill battles to play Thursday.
Green Bay Packers: Center Scott Wells (knee) didn’t practice and might not be ready to return in a short practice week. If that’s the case, rookie Evan Dietrich-Smith would become the third player to start a game at center for the Packers this season. Running back Ahman Green (groin) and tackle Allen Barbre (ankle) also didn’t practice. Brandon Jackson’s strong performance Sunday against San Francisco gives the Packers every reason to let Green heal fully before returning. Meanwhile, the Packers promoted cornerback Trevor Ford from the practice squad, according to Rob Demovsky of the Green Bay Press-Gazette.
Catching up on Monday’s news around the NFC North:
Chicago Bears: Safety Al Afalava (shoulder) was on the field for practice Monday, according to Jeff Dickerson of ESPN Chicago. Meanwhile, we’re back to guessing who will start at left guard Sunday night against Philadelphia. Frank Omiyale replaced starter Josh Beekman late in Thursday night’s loss at San Francisco.
Detroit Lions: Yet another defensive back will go on injured reserve. Jack Williams, claimed on waivers last week from Denver, suffered a season-ending knee injury Sunday at Minnesota, according to coach Jim Schwartz.… Right guard Stephen Peterman suffered an ankle injury that could cost him some time.
Green Bay Packers: Tight end Jermichael Finley (knee) will return to practice Wednesday, coach Mike McCarthy told reporters in Green Bay. … Linebacker Aaron Kampman (concussion) should be ready to return to practice as well. McCarthy said he will remain the starter but indicated that rookie Brad Jones earned at least some playing time with his performance Sunday against Dallas. … McCarthy wouldn’t commit to a starting right tackle for this Sunday’s game against San Francisco. Candidates include T.J. Lang, Mark Tauscher and Allen Barbre -- probably in that order.
Minnesota Vikings: The team is hopeful that cornerback Antoine Winfield will be able to play Sunday against Seattle.
Chicago Bears: Safety Al Afalava (shoulder) was on the field for practice Monday, according to Jeff Dickerson of ESPN Chicago. Meanwhile, we’re back to guessing who will start at left guard Sunday night against Philadelphia. Frank Omiyale replaced starter Josh Beekman late in Thursday night’s loss at San Francisco.
Detroit Lions: Yet another defensive back will go on injured reserve. Jack Williams, claimed on waivers last week from Denver, suffered a season-ending knee injury Sunday at Minnesota, according to coach Jim Schwartz.… Right guard Stephen Peterman suffered an ankle injury that could cost him some time.
Green Bay Packers: Tight end Jermichael Finley (knee) will return to practice Wednesday, coach Mike McCarthy told reporters in Green Bay. … Linebacker Aaron Kampman (concussion) should be ready to return to practice as well. McCarthy said he will remain the starter but indicated that rookie Brad Jones earned at least some playing time with his performance Sunday against Dallas. … McCarthy wouldn’t commit to a starting right tackle for this Sunday’s game against San Francisco. Candidates include T.J. Lang, Mark Tauscher and Allen Barbre -- probably in that order.
Minnesota Vikings: The team is hopeful that cornerback Antoine Winfield will be able to play Sunday against Seattle.
After Green Bay’s 17-7 victory over Dallas, here are three (mostly) indisputable facts I feel relatively sure about:
And here is one question I’m still asking:
- I really liked the Packers’ game plan on both sides of the ball. More important, of course, was the execution. Holding a slim 3-0 lead at halftime, the Packers had an almost 50-50 run-pass split in the second half. That’s pretty big for a Mike McCarthy offense. The end result is the Packers held possession for nearly 36 minutes and played the kind of traditional NFC North game we haven’t seen in a while -- dominated by an aggressive defense and an offense that didn’t commit a turnover. I know the Packers have one of the best big-play passing games in the NFL, but their mantra for the rest of the season should be: “Whatever it takes.” Sunday, that meant keeping things tight. In fact, they had only two plays longer than 14 yards.
- There’s a much better chance that rookie T.J. Lang will stick at right tackle than at left tackle. Lang had a decent day Sunday and helped the Packers “limit” Dallas to four sacks. (Everything is relative for the Packers’ pass protection this season.) Way back in the spring, there were some people who thought Lang had a good chance to beat out Allen Barbre for the starting job. Who knows how the beginning of the season might have changed, if at all, had that happened. But it’s been clear for some time that McCarthy was looking for a way, and a place, to get Lang into the starting lineup full-time.
- No one is giving any thought to rookie Brad Jones replacing Aaron Kampman on more than a part-time basis. Are they? Jones is much more suited to playing the position than Kampman and had seven tackles in his debut. No one is really sure how long Kampman (concussion) will be out, but let’s face it: The Packers really need to tweak their scheme to make best use of his skills. I’m not saying anything. I’m just saying.
And here is one question I’m still asking:
Anyone else see Charles Woodson whooping it up after his sack/forced fumble of Dallas quarterback Tony Romo? Woodson obviously didn’t know that rookie linebacker Clay Matthews was still chasing a live ball at the time. All’s well that ends well, and overall Woodson had a season-changing performance Sunday. I actually thought it was a revealing bit of catharsis for Woodson given the Packers’ struggles at various times this season.
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Five nuggets of knowledge about Week 10:
Fantasy players, listen up: Minnesota quarterback Brett Favre has thrown more touchdown passes against Detroit (56) than any other NFL team. And here’s an interesting note from ESPN Stats & Information: Favre has thrown at least two touchdown passes in 11 consecutive games at the Metrodome, dating to the 2000 season. The NFL record is 12, set by Favre earlier in his career at Lambeau Field and Kurt Warner with St. Louis. What does it all mean? Favre has had the Lions’ number for a long time, and he is especially comfortable lately at the Metrodome.
Much is made of Detroit’s 18-year drought in Wisconsin, but the Lions have also built a dubious mark in Minnesota as well. They’ve gone 11 seasons without a victory at the Metrodome, last winning a 14-13 contest in 1997. There have been some close calls, most notably a 12-10 loss last season. (That game was in doubt until Ryan Longwell’s 38-yard field goal with nine seconds remaining.) To this point, the trend has transcended general managers, coaches and a generation of players. Whether it’s a trend or just coincidence, new coach Jim Schwartz and this group of players will have their hands full trying to reverse it Sunday. In a related statistic: The Lions have lost 16 consecutive road games.
Minnesota cornerback Antoine Winfield (foot) has missed most of the past three games, and he’s unlikely to play Sunday. What does that mean for the Lions? In Winfield’s absence, the Vikings have given up a net passing total of 781 yards and six touchdowns to Baltimore, Pittsburgh and Green Bay. Lions receiver Calvin Johnson, especially, should have a favorable matchup no matter how the Vikings decide to defend him. The big question will be whether the Lions’ offensive line gives quarterback Matthew Stafford enough time to throw. The Vikings lead the NFL with 31 sacks.
In the parlance of our youth(ful): OMG. I’m not sure any Green Bay fan wants to give much thought to the matchup with Dallas’ pass-rushers, including linebacker DeMarcus Ware. The Cowboys have 20 sacks this season, including five from Ware, but they have to be licking their chops as the Packers embark on another changeup on their offensive line. This week, it looks like rookie T.J. Lang will replace Mark Tauscher (knee) and Allen Barbre (concussion) at right tackle. The Packers’ porous pass protection has been well-discussed all season, but this isn’t a friendly matchup even by 2009 standards. Now would be a good time for quarterback Aaron Rodgers to quicken his release.
The Packers’ linebacker depth will be tested Sunday as well. With Aaron Kampman (concussion) and Brady Poppinga (quadriceps) expected to miss the game, the Packers are down to a pair of players who have seen almost no playing time on defense this season. Rookie Brad Jones is the likely starter at the left outside linebacker position, while Jeremy Thompson could see some action as well. Thompson worked with the first team for much of the offseason, but injuries sent him tumbling to the bottom of the depth chart. Jones, a seventh-round draft pick in April, is a natural outside linebacker in the 3-4 but otherwise is unheralded.
Five nuggets of knowledge about Week 10:
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AP Photo/Jim PrischingVikings quarterback Brett Favre has always put up big numbers against Detroit.
AP Photo/Jim PrischingVikings quarterback Brett Favre has always put up big numbers against Detroit.Much is made of Detroit’s 18-year drought in Wisconsin, but the Lions have also built a dubious mark in Minnesota as well. They’ve gone 11 seasons without a victory at the Metrodome, last winning a 14-13 contest in 1997. There have been some close calls, most notably a 12-10 loss last season. (That game was in doubt until Ryan Longwell’s 38-yard field goal with nine seconds remaining.) To this point, the trend has transcended general managers, coaches and a generation of players. Whether it’s a trend or just coincidence, new coach Jim Schwartz and this group of players will have their hands full trying to reverse it Sunday. In a related statistic: The Lions have lost 16 consecutive road games.
Minnesota cornerback Antoine Winfield (foot) has missed most of the past three games, and he’s unlikely to play Sunday. What does that mean for the Lions? In Winfield’s absence, the Vikings have given up a net passing total of 781 yards and six touchdowns to Baltimore, Pittsburgh and Green Bay. Lions receiver Calvin Johnson, especially, should have a favorable matchup no matter how the Vikings decide to defend him. The big question will be whether the Lions’ offensive line gives quarterback Matthew Stafford enough time to throw. The Vikings lead the NFL with 31 sacks.
In the parlance of our youth(ful): OMG. I’m not sure any Green Bay fan wants to give much thought to the matchup with Dallas’ pass-rushers, including linebacker DeMarcus Ware. The Cowboys have 20 sacks this season, including five from Ware, but they have to be licking their chops as the Packers embark on another changeup on their offensive line. This week, it looks like rookie T.J. Lang will replace Mark Tauscher (knee) and Allen Barbre (concussion) at right tackle. The Packers’ porous pass protection has been well-discussed all season, but this isn’t a friendly matchup even by 2009 standards. Now would be a good time for quarterback Aaron Rodgers to quicken his release.
The Packers’ linebacker depth will be tested Sunday as well. With Aaron Kampman (concussion) and Brady Poppinga (quadriceps) expected to miss the game, the Packers are down to a pair of players who have seen almost no playing time on defense this season. Rookie Brad Jones is the likely starter at the left outside linebacker position, while Jeremy Thompson could see some action as well. Thompson worked with the first team for much of the offseason, but injuries sent him tumbling to the bottom of the depth chart. Jones, a seventh-round draft pick in April, is a natural outside linebacker in the 3-4 but otherwise is unheralded.
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Chicago Bears: Safety Kevin Payne (back) was ruled out of Thursday night’s game at San Francisco and fellow safety Al Afalava (shoulder) is questionable. That could leave the Bears choosing between Craig Steltz and Josh Bullocks as their starter opposite Danieal Manning.
Detroit Lions: Linebackers Larry Foote (knee) and Ernie Sims (hamstring) did not practice. If neither can play, the Lions would likely use rookie DeAndre Levy at middle linebacker and Jordon Dizon in Sims’ spot on the weak side.
Green Bay Packers: Injuries have depleted the Packers’ outside linebacker position. Aaron Kampman (concussion) missed Wednesday’s practice, and Brady Poppinga came up with a quadriceps injury Tuesday and had an MRI on Wednesday. That leaves Brad Jones and Jeremy Thompson on the depth chart, and Jones took most of the snaps Wednesday. Tight end Jermichael Finley (knee) appears to be at least a week away. Right tackles Mark Tauscher (knee) and Allen Barbre (concussion) didn’t practice, leaving rookie T.J. Lang to work at right tackle.
Minnesota Vikings: Cornerback Antoine Winfield (sprain) was on the field working with defensive backs at the beginning of practice. Officially, his particiation was “limited.” Receiver Darius Reynaud (hamstring) had full participation for the first time since Week 3.
Chicago Bears: Safety Kevin Payne (back) was ruled out of Thursday night’s game at San Francisco and fellow safety Al Afalava (shoulder) is questionable. That could leave the Bears choosing between Craig Steltz and Josh Bullocks as their starter opposite Danieal Manning.
Detroit Lions: Linebackers Larry Foote (knee) and Ernie Sims (hamstring) did not practice. If neither can play, the Lions would likely use rookie DeAndre Levy at middle linebacker and Jordon Dizon in Sims’ spot on the weak side.
Green Bay Packers: Injuries have depleted the Packers’ outside linebacker position. Aaron Kampman (concussion) missed Wednesday’s practice, and Brady Poppinga came up with a quadriceps injury Tuesday and had an MRI on Wednesday. That leaves Brad Jones and Jeremy Thompson on the depth chart, and Jones took most of the snaps Wednesday. Tight end Jermichael Finley (knee) appears to be at least a week away. Right tackles Mark Tauscher (knee) and Allen Barbre (concussion) didn’t practice, leaving rookie T.J. Lang to work at right tackle.
Minnesota Vikings: Cornerback Antoine Winfield (sprain) was on the field working with defensive backs at the beginning of practice. Officially, his particiation was “limited.” Receiver Darius Reynaud (hamstring) had full participation for the first time since Week 3.

