NFC North: Lance Moore
The only mild surprise on that list is Bunkley, who practiced on a limited basis the past two days. The others were all held out of practice all week. Cornerback Keenan Lewis (hip) and defensive end Tom Johnson (hamstring) are listed as questionable after practicing on a limited basis all week.
None of the injuries should be too harmful to the Saints, who dominated the Miami Dolphins 38-17 last Monday night without Moore, Harper, Ingram, Bunkley and Johnson in the lineup. The Saints have so far proven to be deep enough in each position group to absorb those losses -- though they’ll be especially thin on the defensive line if Johnson is not back near 100 percent.
With Moore out last week, the Saints continued to rely heavily on top targets Jimmy Graham, Marques Colston and Darren Sproles. Backup receivers Kenny Stills and Nick Toon each played slightly bigger roles, with the rookie Stills catching a career-high four passes for 38 yards and Toon catching his first NFL passes for 18 yards on a key third-and-12 play in the first quarter. Tight end Benjamin Watson also caught his first touchdown pass since he joined the Saints this summer (a 4-yarder in the third quarter).
That was Watson's only catch in the game, though. And deep threat receiver Robert Meachem had zero catches. So even with Moore out of the lineup and quarterback Drew Brees throwing for 413 yards, the Saints still didn’t have enough balls to go around for everybody in their deep offense.
It looks like only one player, reserve safety Chris Harris, might not be available for the game. Harris hasn't practiced since Wednesday because of a back injury and is listed on the Lions' final injury report as doubtful.
All other players are either probable or not listed at all. That includes safety Louis Delmas (knee), who hasn't played since Thanksgiving Day, and nose tackle Corey Williams, who missed last week's game against the Green Bay Packers because of a hip injury.
For the Saints, receiver Lance Moore (hamstring) won't play.
- The Saints have ruled out receiver Lance Moore, who might be quarterback Drew Brees' most trusted receiver. Moore suffered a groin injury during the preseason and didn't practice all week. The Saints still have plenty of weapons in the passing game, but they will have to make a significant adjustment without Moore, who caught 66 passes last season.
- Packers defensive end Mike Neal (knee) is questionable, which really doesn't tell us much about whether he will play Thursday night. He participated in a portion of each practice this week, but he hasn't played in a game Aug. 13. "Questionable" technically means Neal has a 50-50 chance of playing. We'll know soon enough.
The only Packers players who definitely won't play are cornerback Davon House, linebacker Vic So'oto and linebacker Frank Zombo.
Green Bay coach Mike McCarthy touched on a couple of interesting topics Wednesday during an interview with Rob Demovsky of the Green Bay Press-Gazette.
While there has been plenty of talk about the Packers shift to a 3-4 defense, McCarthy also said the Packers are making some scheme changes on offense as well. He wasn't specific, but when discussing quarterback Aaron Rodgers, McCarthy said:
"Aaron's been working on fundamentals and just going through some of the scheme changes that we're anticipating making. He does a great job in the fundamental drills and the skill drills."
Most teams edit their offense during the offseason, but the fact that McCarthy mentioned it suggests the Packers are changing a bit more than normal after getting a full year to see Rodgers in action.
McCarthy, meanwhile, acknowledged that safety Nick Collins continues to sit out the offseason strength and conditioning program. Collins' wife recently gave birth, but he is also known to be seeking a contract extension. McCarthy said he did not have a timetable for when Collins plans to return to Green Bay.
Continuing around the NFC North:
- Rick Braun of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel checks in on the progress of Packers defensive end Cullen Jenkins and linebacker Nick Barnett, who are rehabilitating season-ending injuries.
- David Haugh of the Chicago Tribune cautions against assuming the Bears are locked into drafting a receiver in the second round. Haugh: "[I]n talking to several sources familiar with the way the Bears will approach the draft, general manager Jerry Angelo won't hesitate to address a position other than wide receiver at No. 49 if the team concludes another player offers more value."
- Brad Biggs of the Chicago Sun-Times downplays the possibility the Bears will pursue New Orleans receiver Lance Moore, a restricted free agent. Friday is the deadline for issuing offer sheets to RFAs.
- Although there has been talk of Detroit moving Jeff Backus to left guard this season, he will practice exclusively at left tackle during a mini-camp that starts Friday. That nugget is at the end of this story from Tom Kowalski of Mlive.com.
- Minnesota linebacker E.J. Henderson, who missed 12 games last season because of multiple dislocated toes, is ready for training camp to begin right now. "Those offensive guys are going to be mad at me this year," Henderson told Chip Scoggins of the Star Tribune.
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|Drew Brees torched the Packers for 323 passing yards and four touchdown passes in a 51-29 drubbing of the Packers.|
NEW ORLEANS -- Atari Bigby sat at his locker with his head buried in his hands. Al Harris spoke as if in a daze. Nick Collins admitted he was "embarrassed" and questioned whether his team was ready to play.
"We got our [tail] whupped in front of the whole country," Woodson said. "When you see the backup quarterback come in, you know you got your [tail] whupped. It was a rough day."
The Packers' revered pass defense didn't just have a down day on "Monday Night Football." It was on the short end of perhaps the best passing day of the season, a near-perfect performance from Saints quarterback Drew Brees that made the Packers look like a bunch of bullfighters.
Olé, Bigby said as Saints receiver Lance Moore ran around him for a 70-yard scoring pass in the first quarter.
"We got embarrassed, we got whupped, however you want to put it," Collins said. "It was an old fashioned butt-whupping. We know we're better than that, and we can't ever let that happen again."
Collins wasn't sure why, but he nevertheless seemed convinced the Packers arrived in New Orleans unprepared for their task.
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"You can't explain it," he said. "We just weren't ready to play today. That's just all it was. We knew it was going to be a shootout. We just weren't ready. We just didn't have the fire tonight."
That's a disturbing admission from a prominent player on a team that needed a victory to keep pace in a mediocre division. Could the Packers have been overconfident, motivated by last week's now-distant thrashing of Chicago and the national attention on their pass defense? It's not like the Saints snuck up on anybody Monday night. Brees entered the game with more yards in his first 10 games than any quarterback in league history.
"We felt we could come in and have a better showing against this team," Woodson said. "But they turned out to be everything that everyone thought they were."
The Packers' defensive scheme relies on a certain level of physical superiority from the secondary -- the idea that Woodson and especially Harris can handle receivers in man coverage. Perhaps the Packers thought they could disrupt Brees' timing with his receivers, but the Saints clearly had them outmatched.
"They're a good secondary," Brees said. "They're a very good secondary. Arguably one of the better secondaries in this league, if not the best. [But] we felt like, with all the man-to-man matchups we would get, that if we could get the ball in the hands of our receivers, we could break a tackle and make some big plays."
Consider it mission accomplished for the Saints, whose own defense performed the way the Packers' defense hoped to. New Orleans intercepted Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers three times and knocked down 11 other passes, leaving the Packers unable to keep up.
The Packers' offense had entered the game ready for a shootout.
"We thought we could score on them," Rodgers said.
But no one counted on the defense giving up the fifth-most points in team history.
"Just no excuses," Harris said. "If our offense scores 29 points, we have to hold them to 28. We didn't hold up our end of the bargain."
Other notable items from the Packers' postgame locker room:
- Both Rodgers and coach Mike McCarthy suitably noted the urgency Green Bay now faces. The Packers, of course, trail Chicago (6-5) and Minnesota (6-5) in the NFC North and will need help to make a move in the division over the final five games of the season. "We just need to win football games," McCarthy said. "It's November. It's time." Said Rodgers: "Every game for us is a must-win."
- The Packers played all but two plays without right tackle Mark Tauscher, who strained a hamstring and did not return. Tony Moll replaced him and Tauscher's status for Sunday's game against Carolina is uncertain. Tauscher blew out his knee at the Superdome in 2002 and missed 14 games.
- Rodgers used his previously injured right shoulder to knock Saints cornerback Jason David out of bounds after an interception in the third quarter. "I was pretty upset," Rodgers said. "And I gave it all I had."
- The Saints had 416 yards on only 54 plays, an average of 7.7 yards per play. "We expected more from our defense," McCarthy said.
- The Packers got away from their running game in the second half as the deficit grew. Tailback Ryan Grant had 64 yards in the first half and 3 yards in the second. The Saints "peeled back their ears" and rushed Rodgers with renewed v
igor, McCarthy said. It's no surprise that all three of Rodgers' interceptions and both of his sacks came after halftime.
NEW ORLEANS -- You just got greedy, Sean Payton.
The Saints coach got too creative with an offense that has been steamrolling the Packers all night and just cost himself a chance, at least temporarily, to seal this game.
Green Bay safety Aaron Rouse just intercepted an ill-advised double-pass -- from Drew Brees to Lance Moore, who tried to throw to tailback Pierre Thomas. The play ended another Saints threat in the red zone. Rouse returned it to the Packers' 43-yard line to at least give the Packers another chance to stay in the game.
Luckily for Payton, the Saints defense forced the Packers to punt.