NFC North: Louis Delmas
A committee of ESPN experts -- including Trent Dilfer, Mel Kiper, Gary Horton, Matt Williamson -- assembled this offseason to create a unique version of our traditional Power Rankings.
Naturally, NFC North teams are featured prominently in what amounts to a three-year projection of Power Rankings for the 2015 season
. The Green Bay Packers received the top spot as the team best equipped to compete three years from now, while the Detroit Lions were not far behind at No. 6.
The file requires an Insider subscription to read in full, but I can pass along where our four teams ranked and also a glimpse at the methodology used. Here is how the committee evaluated each team and the degree of impact each category had:
Now on to the NFC North rankings with comments from me:
1. Green Bay Packers
Seifert comment: The presence of a 28-year-old MVP quarterback and one of the NFL's top general manager-coach combinations puts the Packers on an ideal long-term path.
6. Detroit Lions
Seifert comment: Quarterback Matthew Stafford had a 5,000-yard season before his 24th birthday. That's a nice start. General manager Martin Mayhew has elevated the team's talent level every season of his tenure and most of the Lions' key players -- Stafford, receiver Calvin Johnson, tight end Brandon Pettigrew, defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh, safety Louis Delmas and linebacker Stephen Tulloch -- are under 30.
17. Chicago Bears
Seifert comment: Jay Cutler is a legitimate franchise quarterback, but the best players on the Bears' defense are all over 30. That list includes defensive end Julius Peppers, linebackers Brian Urlacher and Lance Briggs, and cornerback Charles Tillman.
31. Minnesota Vikings
Seifert comment: Questions about quarterback Christian Ponder's long-term prospects made it difficult for the committee to project future success. There are also concerns about a lack of young impact players on defense. Defensive end Jared Allen is 30 and linebacker Chad Greenway is 29.
Naturally, NFC North teams are featured prominently in what amounts to a three-year projection of Power Rankings for the 2015 season
The file requires an Insider subscription to read in full, but I can pass along where our four teams ranked and also a glimpse at the methodology used. Here is how the committee evaluated each team and the degree of impact each category had:
- Roster (32.5 percent of total score): Players under 30 emphasized
- Coaching (20 percent): Capability and stability of current staff
- Quarterback (17.5 percent): Where quarterback play would be in three years
- Draft (15 percent): Based on team's 2012 class and how many picks available in next three years.
- Front office (15 percent): Ability to manage roster and market's attraction to free agents.
Now on to the NFC North rankings with comments from me:
1. Green Bay Packers
Seifert comment: The presence of a 28-year-old MVP quarterback and one of the NFL's top general manager-coach combinations puts the Packers on an ideal long-term path.
6. Detroit Lions
Seifert comment: Quarterback Matthew Stafford had a 5,000-yard season before his 24th birthday. That's a nice start. General manager Martin Mayhew has elevated the team's talent level every season of his tenure and most of the Lions' key players -- Stafford, receiver Calvin Johnson, tight end Brandon Pettigrew, defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh, safety Louis Delmas and linebacker Stephen Tulloch -- are under 30.
17. Chicago Bears
Seifert comment: Jay Cutler is a legitimate franchise quarterback, but the best players on the Bears' defense are all over 30. That list includes defensive end Julius Peppers, linebackers Brian Urlacher and Lance Briggs, and cornerback Charles Tillman.
31. Minnesota Vikings
Seifert comment: Questions about quarterback Christian Ponder's long-term prospects made it difficult for the committee to project future success. There are also concerns about a lack of young impact players on defense. Defensive end Jared Allen is 30 and linebacker Chad Greenway is 29.
Semantics and intent with Titus Young case
May, 22, 2012
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Kevin Seifert | ESPN.com
The Detroit Lions had no comment Monday on the absence of receiver Titus Young from their first organized team activity of the offseason. Nor would they confirm reports that Young was banned from their practice facility after sucker-punching safety Louis Delmas during an incident last week.
Tuesday, Tim Twentyman of the team's official web site reported that Young's absence "was not the result of any punitive action by the team," citing multiple league sources. Further, Young has "not been ordered to stay away from the facility by the team and is not on any team-mandated suspension," Twentyman wrote.
In NFL parlance, the word "suspension" is meaningful and implies a formal process that could involve the NFL Players Association. It's not surprising to hear the Lions haven't formally pursued that avenue in dealing with Young.
But are we truly to believe the Lions took no action after one of their team leaders got punched at the team facility, especially after a 2011 season that raised questions about the team's maturity and discipline? Young's absence might not have been the result of a formal suspension, but for the Lions' sake, I hope they are doing something in response to this incident.
Regardless, if Young were truly welcome at the facility, then why didn't he participate in Monday's OTA after taking part in earlier portions of the offseason program? Twentyman wrote that Young "will have to provide" the answer to that question "when he eventually joins his teammates."
Does that mean Young chose to stay away on his own? OTAs, like most of the offseason program, is voluntary, but there were only a handful of absences Monday.
In the end, this is all a discussion of semantics and legalese. The bottom line is that Young punched Delmas last week, and something kept him away from the facility Monday. Did the Lions encourage it? Request it? Suggest it? Agree with Young's decision? I have a hard time believing they were not involved in the decision in some way shape or form. The alternative is that they've done nothing to deal with this incident. Which do you think is more likely?
Tuesday, Tim Twentyman of the team's official web site reported that Young's absence "was not the result of any punitive action by the team," citing multiple league sources. Further, Young has "not been ordered to stay away from the facility by the team and is not on any team-mandated suspension," Twentyman wrote.
In NFL parlance, the word "suspension" is meaningful and implies a formal process that could involve the NFL Players Association. It's not surprising to hear the Lions haven't formally pursued that avenue in dealing with Young.
But are we truly to believe the Lions took no action after one of their team leaders got punched at the team facility, especially after a 2011 season that raised questions about the team's maturity and discipline? Young's absence might not have been the result of a formal suspension, but for the Lions' sake, I hope they are doing something in response to this incident.
Regardless, if Young were truly welcome at the facility, then why didn't he participate in Monday's OTA after taking part in earlier portions of the offseason program? Twentyman wrote that Young "will have to provide" the answer to that question "when he eventually joins his teammates."
Does that mean Young chose to stay away on his own? OTAs, like most of the offseason program, is voluntary, but there were only a handful of absences Monday.
In the end, this is all a discussion of semantics and legalese. The bottom line is that Young punched Delmas last week, and something kept him away from the facility Monday. Did the Lions encourage it? Request it? Suggest it? Agree with Young's decision? I have a hard time believing they were not involved in the decision in some way shape or form. The alternative is that they've done nothing to deal with this incident. Which do you think is more likely?
Lions waiting for Titus Young to grow up
May, 21, 2012
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Kevin Seifert | ESPN.com
It's not unusual for NFL teammates to fight behind closed doors, be it in a locker room or on the practice field or even on the sideline during games. Typically, such incidents are written off as heat-of-the-moment outbursts and go minimally punished, if at all.
So the news that the Detroit Lions banned receiver Titus Young from their facility Monday should resonate loudly with both Young and anyone interested in his future with the franchise.
As Anwar S. Richardson of Mlive.com reports, the Lions did not allow Young to participate in Monday's organized team activity because he fought last week with safety Louis Delmas during a workout. Details of the episode are sketchy, but obviously the Lions did not classify it as a boys-will-be-boys incident -- especially not when it involved a player whose immaturity was obvious as a rookie last season.
Young was benched during a Week 13 game against the New Orleans Saints after he committed a costly personal foul. You might remember veteran center Dominic Raiola getting in Young's face afterward, repeatedly yelling for him to "Grow up!" -- with a few expletives mixed in. It was in many ways the symbol of a young(er) team that struggled to respond to the pressures of a playoff race.
It sounds like the Lions are still trying to get that message across. According to Richardson, Young instigated the fight by landing a punch when Delmas wasn't looking. Sucker-punching a team leader isn't generally suggestive of a maturing second-year player, and it's not surprising that the Lions essentially kicked Young out of the building as a result.
We'll never know if the team would have reacted the same way during the season. Everything going on is voluntary, and no one is keeping score. Even with the selection of receiver Ryan Broyles in the second round of last month's draft, the Lions are counting heavily on Young to be part of their three- and four-receiver sets. He has a unique skill set that isn't matched on their roster.
It's one thing to give a 22-year-old rookie some leeway while he adjusts to NFL life. Young doesn't turn 23 until August, but he's no longer a rookie, and it's fair to expect him to act like a professional. Sucker-punching Louis Delmas? If the report is accurate, that's a punk move.
Delmas is known to be volatile as well, but his appearance in Monday's OTA indicates the Lions don't hold him responsible for the incident.
Broyles practiced Monday for the first time since having knee surgery six months ago, and he'll be ready to contribute at some point in the 2012 season. I don't think the Lions are interested in moving on without Young, but everyone runs out of chances sometime. The Lions aren't interested in a repeat of the discipline and growing pains they endured in 2011. It's time for Titus Young to "Grow the [expletive] up."
So the news that the Detroit Lions banned receiver Titus Young from their facility Monday should resonate loudly with both Young and anyone interested in his future with the franchise.
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AP Photo/Kevin TerrellTitus Young reportedly punched teammate Louis Delmas during a workout last week.
AP Photo/Kevin TerrellTitus Young reportedly punched teammate Louis Delmas during a workout last week.Young was benched during a Week 13 game against the New Orleans Saints after he committed a costly personal foul. You might remember veteran center Dominic Raiola getting in Young's face afterward, repeatedly yelling for him to "Grow up!" -- with a few expletives mixed in. It was in many ways the symbol of a young(er) team that struggled to respond to the pressures of a playoff race.
It sounds like the Lions are still trying to get that message across. According to Richardson, Young instigated the fight by landing a punch when Delmas wasn't looking. Sucker-punching a team leader isn't generally suggestive of a maturing second-year player, and it's not surprising that the Lions essentially kicked Young out of the building as a result.
We'll never know if the team would have reacted the same way during the season. Everything going on is voluntary, and no one is keeping score. Even with the selection of receiver Ryan Broyles in the second round of last month's draft, the Lions are counting heavily on Young to be part of their three- and four-receiver sets. He has a unique skill set that isn't matched on their roster.
It's one thing to give a 22-year-old rookie some leeway while he adjusts to NFL life. Young doesn't turn 23 until August, but he's no longer a rookie, and it's fair to expect him to act like a professional. Sucker-punching Louis Delmas? If the report is accurate, that's a punk move.
Delmas is known to be volatile as well, but his appearance in Monday's OTA indicates the Lions don't hold him responsible for the incident.
Broyles practiced Monday for the first time since having knee surgery six months ago, and he'll be ready to contribute at some point in the 2012 season. I don't think the Lions are interested in moving on without Young, but everyone runs out of chances sometime. The Lions aren't interested in a repeat of the discipline and growing pains they endured in 2011. It's time for Titus Young to "Grow the [expletive] up."
Polian: Nick Fairley a pivotal Lions player
May, 11, 2012
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Kevin Seifert | ESPN.com
Bill Polian's list of 10 pivotal players in the NFL this season
includes Detroit Lions defensive tackle Nick Fairley. You'll need an Insider subscription to see the entire file, but here is what Polian wrote about Fairley:
The most interesting part of the choice is that Polian didn't bother suggesting that one of the Lions' defensive backs needs to step it up, whether it's safety Amari Spievey or cornerback Aaron Berry or anyone else who might play a prominent role in improving the team's pass defense. Polian instead focused on the impact of strengthening what is already one of the NFL's more dominant defensive fronts.
That appears to be in line with the Lions' philosophy when you look at how they've focused their roster building in recent years. Over the past three years, they've committed big money to sign defensive end Kyle Vanden Bosch and retain defensive end Cliff Avril. They've used the No. 2 overall pick in the draft to select Suh, and the No. 12 overall pick brought them Fairley.
On the other hand, the Lions did use the No. 33 overall pick of the 2009 draft to select safety Louis Delmas. But for the most part, they have cobbled together the secondary with second-tier moves (and players), knowing it would be protected by a more-talented defensive line. It stands to reason that Fairley's emergence in 2012 would only enhance that approach.
Earlier: The Lions have high expectations for Fairley now that he is recovered from a foot injury he originally suffered last summer, despite a recent marijuana charge.
Fairley could be the missing piece in making the Detroit defense dominant. If the big Auburn alum can reach his potential, a trio of him, Ndamukong Suh and the emerging Corey Williams could make the Lions' D-line extremely hard to handle up the middle and wreak havoc on the pocket (which will help an improving secondary).
I still think the Lions need more from the running back position to be legitimate title contenders, but if Fairley steps up, an already improved defense will be taken to another level.Fairley
The most interesting part of the choice is that Polian didn't bother suggesting that one of the Lions' defensive backs needs to step it up, whether it's safety Amari Spievey or cornerback Aaron Berry or anyone else who might play a prominent role in improving the team's pass defense. Polian instead focused on the impact of strengthening what is already one of the NFL's more dominant defensive fronts.
That appears to be in line with the Lions' philosophy when you look at how they've focused their roster building in recent years. Over the past three years, they've committed big money to sign defensive end Kyle Vanden Bosch and retain defensive end Cliff Avril. They've used the No. 2 overall pick in the draft to select Suh, and the No. 12 overall pick brought them Fairley.
On the other hand, the Lions did use the No. 33 overall pick of the 2009 draft to select safety Louis Delmas. But for the most part, they have cobbled together the secondary with second-tier moves (and players), knowing it would be protected by a more-talented defensive line. It stands to reason that Fairley's emergence in 2012 would only enhance that approach.
Earlier: The Lions have high expectations for Fairley now that he is recovered from a foot injury he originally suffered last summer, despite a recent marijuana charge.
Did the Detroit Lions do enough to address their secondary?
When the offseason began, it was reasonable to lock in two starters among the Lions' defensive backfield: safety Louis Delmas and cornerback Chris Houston. That left the other two starters open and possibly subject to upgrade after a well-documented collapse of their pass defense.
Four months later, nothing has really changed about that arrangement. Cornerback Eric Wright signed with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and if there is a safety on the roster who will challenge 2010-11 starter Amari Spievey, he isn't easily identifiable.
It appears the Lions are set to open training camp with oft-injured nickelback Aaron Berry, free agent Jacob Lacey and perhaps Alphonso Smith competing for Wright's former position. Although they drafted three cornerbacks last week, the best-case scenario is probably for third-rounder Dwight Bentley to win the nickel spot.
You can't fill every hole in an offseason, and the Lions' secondary will continue to be protected by one of the best defensive fronts in the game. But there are some important questions remaining to be answered.
When the offseason began, it was reasonable to lock in two starters among the Lions' defensive backfield: safety Louis Delmas and cornerback Chris Houston. That left the other two starters open and possibly subject to upgrade after a well-documented collapse of their pass defense.
Four months later, nothing has really changed about that arrangement. Cornerback Eric Wright signed with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and if there is a safety on the roster who will challenge 2010-11 starter Amari Spievey, he isn't easily identifiable.
It appears the Lions are set to open training camp with oft-injured nickelback Aaron Berry, free agent Jacob Lacey and perhaps Alphonso Smith competing for Wright's former position. Although they drafted three cornerbacks last week, the best-case scenario is probably for third-rounder Dwight Bentley to win the nickel spot.
You can't fill every hole in an offseason, and the Lions' secondary will continue to be protected by one of the best defensive fronts in the game. But there are some important questions remaining to be answered.
Many of you wanted to see the Detroit Lions revamp their secondary after its late-season collapse in 2011. Through the first week of free agency, they have (wisely) allowed cornerback Eric Wright to depart. They have expressed interest in safeties LaRon Landry and O.J. Atogwe, and on Tuesday they agreed to terms with cornerback Jacob Lacey, whom the Indianapolis Colts non-tendered after three seasons as a part-time starter.
Is that what you had in mind?
The truth is there won't be any easy answers for the Lions as they look to build around presumed cornerstones Chris Houston and Louis Delmas. There aren't many accomplished cornerbacks available in any given year, and this year they went for annual salaries of $10 million or more.
Lacey's skill level probably puts him about even with Aaron Berry, the Lions' nickelback last season when healthy. Landry signed with the New York Jets, and if the Lions land Atogwe, they'll be his third team in as many seasons. He turns 31 in June.
We know enough about the Lions' approach to the draft to suggest they won't be focused on any one position, let alone cornerback or safety. But let's put it this way: They would be fortunate if a few good ones are available in the upper rounds.
Is that what you had in mind?
The truth is there won't be any easy answers for the Lions as they look to build around presumed cornerstones Chris Houston and Louis Delmas. There aren't many accomplished cornerbacks available in any given year, and this year they went for annual salaries of $10 million or more.
Lacey's skill level probably puts him about even with Aaron Berry, the Lions' nickelback last season when healthy. Landry signed with the New York Jets, and if the Lions land Atogwe, they'll be his third team in as many seasons. He turns 31 in June.
We know enough about the Lions' approach to the draft to suggest they won't be focused on any one position, let alone cornerback or safety. But let's put it this way: They would be fortunate if a few good ones are available in the upper rounds.
We're Black and Blue All Over:
I hope everyone had a great weekend and is ready for Franchise Monday! Yes, today is the first day that NFL teams can tag franchise players, a designation that requires premium compensation for another team -- and allows for right of first refusal -- to acquire them via free agency. The window extends through March 5, and as you know, we spent much of last week discussing the various possibilities for the NFC North.
Two division players, Chicago Bears tailback Matt Forte and Detroit Lions defensive end Cliff Avril, have already acknowledged they might not react well if franchised. Avril's comments came over the weekend while speaking to several Detroit-area reporters.
I know a lot of you are worked up about his potential reaction, but all Avril really said was that an offseason/training camp holdout was one of several potential scenarios if he is franchised. It wasn't a threat as much as it was an acknowledgement of reality. Here's exactly how he put it: "There's a lot of different possibilities, and that's one of the possibilities -- not showing up. But we don't know. That's not the plan, obviously. But there's a lot of different possibilities, and that's definitely one of them."
Dave Birkett of the Detroit Free Press reported over the weekend that the Lions had decided to use the franchise tag if they can't get Avril signed to a long-term extension before the March 5 deadline. That would take some substantial salary-cap maneuvering, but as we've discussed many times, there is always a way to get a single move accomplished under the salary cap if you're willing to accept sacrifices in other areas.
Continuing around the NFC North:
I hope everyone had a great weekend and is ready for Franchise Monday! Yes, today is the first day that NFL teams can tag franchise players, a designation that requires premium compensation for another team -- and allows for right of first refusal -- to acquire them via free agency. The window extends through March 5, and as you know, we spent much of last week discussing the various possibilities for the NFC North.
Two division players, Chicago Bears tailback Matt Forte and Detroit Lions defensive end Cliff Avril, have already acknowledged they might not react well if franchised. Avril's comments came over the weekend while speaking to several Detroit-area reporters.
I know a lot of you are worked up about his potential reaction, but all Avril really said was that an offseason/training camp holdout was one of several potential scenarios if he is franchised. It wasn't a threat as much as it was an acknowledgement of reality. Here's exactly how he put it: "There's a lot of different possibilities, and that's one of the possibilities -- not showing up. But we don't know. That's not the plan, obviously. But there's a lot of different possibilities, and that's definitely one of them."
Dave Birkett of the Detroit Free Press reported over the weekend that the Lions had decided to use the franchise tag if they can't get Avril signed to a long-term extension before the March 5 deadline. That would take some substantial salary-cap maneuvering, but as we've discussed many times, there is always a way to get a single move accomplished under the salary cap if you're willing to accept sacrifices in other areas.
Continuing around the NFC North:
- Lions safety Louis Delmas broke his media silence over the weekend, notes Chris McCosky of the Detroit News.
- Longtime Lions assistant coach Don Clemons, who worked for nine different Lions head coaches, has retired after 27 years with the team. Tim Twentyman of the team's website explains.
- The Green Bay Packers denied permission for safeties coach Darren Perry to interview for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers' defensive coordinator job, according to Dan Pompei for the National Football Post.
- I'll do a separate post on the Green Bay Press Gazette's special report on the newly corporate Green Bay Packers, but here's the primary link for you to chew on now. Links to sidebars are embedded.
- ESPNMilwaukee.com's Jason Wilde's position-by-position review of the Packers hits the defensive line.
- Jeremy Fowler of the St. Paul Pioneer Press evaluates the career of Minnesota Vikings general manager Rick Spielman. Fowler: "A look at Spielman's body of work shows he's a detail-oriented grinder who is growing as an evaluator and works well with others after years as a pseudo-general manager behind head coaches with a heavy hand in roster moves. But it's fair to question his ability to resuscitate the Vikings after miscues and a lack of autonomy through 20 seasons in the business."
- Patrick Reusse of the Star Tribune believes that building a new football stadium in downtown Minneapolis is critical to maintaining a strong heartbeat for the center of the metropolitan area.
- A number of Chicago Bears players attended the funeral of the wife of former Bears defensive tackle Tommie Harris, according to Sean Jensen of the Chicago Sun-Times.
We're Black and Blue All Over:
With all but four NFL teams done for the 2011 season, we have a pretty good idea of what the 2012 draft order will look like. Something tells me you would be interested in where NFC North teams will be choosing in the first round, and so I refer you to ESPN.com's full draft order on our NFL Nation blog.
A few slots have yet to be decided by a coin flip, but the four NFC North teams are locked into their positions. The particulars:
3. Minnesota Vikings
19. Chicago Bears
23. Detroit Lions
28. Green Bay Packers
Let the mock drafts begin.
Continuing around the NFC North:
With all but four NFL teams done for the 2011 season, we have a pretty good idea of what the 2012 draft order will look like. Something tells me you would be interested in where NFC North teams will be choosing in the first round, and so I refer you to ESPN.com's full draft order on our NFL Nation blog.
A few slots have yet to be decided by a coin flip, but the four NFC North teams are locked into their positions. The particulars:
3. Minnesota Vikings
19. Chicago Bears
23. Detroit Lions
28. Green Bay Packers
Let the mock drafts begin.
Continuing around the NFC North:
- Please keep two of our blog regulars in your thoughts as they battle serious illness. Best wishes to VWCAU and icLambeau.
- Jason Wilde of ESPNMilwaukee.com summarizes the interest in Packers assistant coaches throughout the NFL. Offensive coordinator Joe Philbin is a candidate for the head-coaching jobs with the Miami Dolphins, Oakland Raiders and Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Quarterbacks coach Tom Clements will interview for the Bucs job as well. Assistant head coach/inside linebackers Winston Moss and safeties coach Darren Perry could both be candidates for the Raiders job as well.
- A lack of pass rush hurt the Packers all season, writes Tom Silverstein of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.
- Kareem Copeland of the Green Bay Press-Gazette explains what went wrong on a Hail Mary pass that led to a New York Giants touchdown Sunday.
- The Minnesota Vikings are planning to interview Indianapolis Colts defensive backs coach Alan Williams, a former colleague of Vikings coach Leslie Frazier, for their defensive coordinator job, according to the NFL Network via Judd Zulgad of 1500ESPN.com.
- The Vikings' defense remains in flux, writes Dan Wiederer of the Star Tribune.
- The Chicago Bears denied the Vikings permission to interview defensive backs coach Jon Hoke for their defensive coordinator job, according to Brad Biggs of the Chicago Tribune.
- The Bears have completed their first interview for their general manager job, having spoken to New England Patriots executive Jason Licht, according to Sean Jensen of the Chicago Sun-Times.
- Bears special teams coordinator Dave Toub, a candidate for the Dolphins' head-coaching job, is now available on the open market as a special teams coach as well. Jeff Dickerson of ESPNChicago.com explains.
- Chris McCosky of the Detroit News reviews the Detroit Lions player by player.
- Detroit native Eminem gushed about the Lions in a recent GQ article, according to the Detroit Free Press. Among his observations: safety Louis Delmas is "ill."
Daily mailbag: Gunther Cunningham's job
January, 11, 2012
Jan 11
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Kevin Seifert | ESPN.com
Accepting our invitation to respectfully treat the Detroit Lions as NFL big boys now, Scott of Missoula, Mont., asks about potential repercussions for the team's late-season defensive problems:
In the Lions' rebuilding mode, the question would be moot. When he was hired in 2009, coach Jim Schwartz made a point to emphasize the importance of continuity -- both with scheme and in coaching. The only significant change he made on his staff in his first two offseasons was swapping out special teams coordinators.
But after winning 10 games and making the playoffs, it's at least a reasonable discussion point. Cunningham presided over a defense that, as we discussed last week, was one of the NFL's worst over the final seven weeks of the season. I've republished the applicable chart in this post.
The slide roughly coincided with injuries to cornerback Chris Houston and safety Louis Delmas. Linebacker Justin Durant was also limited by a hamstring injury. But injuries or not, it was eye-popping and a warning sign to see the Lions allow a combined 90 points and 1,176 yards in losses to the Green Bay Packers (Week 17) and the New Orleans Saints (wild-card playoffs).
In most situations, the defensive coordinator would at least come under review after that kind of performance. In Detroit, it's complicated by the fact that Schwartz has a defensive background himself and that Cunningham is a longtime friend and colleague.
So to answer Scott's question, yes, it's reasonable to ask about Cunningham's future. But Schwartz gave no indication it could be tenuous while speaking to reporters Monday. Asked if he expected his coordinators to return in 2012, Schwartz answered in the context only of losing assistants to promotions elsewhere.
"I would expect [coordinators to be back]," Schwartz said. "But when you, particularly the offense, perform the way that we did last year, coaches are going to get recognition. People are always going to try to get a piece of the success that you've had, whether it's been developing a young quarterback, dealing with injuries or anything else. We certainly have guys that are deserving. We have guys that will end up being coordinators on our staff that are position coaches right now. We have guys that are quality control coaches that will get position-type jobs. That's part of the NFL and it’s part of success and it's something we're going to have to deal with at some point over our time here."
Obviously, Schwartz wouldn't have announced his intentions at that moment. But all has been quiet from Detroit since then, even as other NFL teams scramble to shuffle their staffs. If something changes, we'll let you know.
Is it unreasonable to ask if Gunther Cunningham's job should be in jeopardy? No. 23 in total defense, 22nd against the pass, and 23rd against the run (but realistically second to last, if we're talking about average per carry). Given the money spent on linebackers in the offseason, and especially given the quality of personnel on the defensive line, the Lions' ineptitude against the run is downright inexcusable. Do you see the Lions considering a move at D-Coordinator?
In the Lions' rebuilding mode, the question would be moot. When he was hired in 2009, coach Jim Schwartz made a point to emphasize the importance of continuity -- both with scheme and in coaching. The only significant change he made on his staff in his first two offseasons was swapping out special teams coordinators.
But after winning 10 games and making the playoffs, it's at least a reasonable discussion point. Cunningham presided over a defense that, as we discussed last week, was one of the NFL's worst over the final seven weeks of the season. I've republished the applicable chart in this post.
The slide roughly coincided with injuries to cornerback Chris Houston and safety Louis Delmas. Linebacker Justin Durant was also limited by a hamstring injury. But injuries or not, it was eye-popping and a warning sign to see the Lions allow a combined 90 points and 1,176 yards in losses to the Green Bay Packers (Week 17) and the New Orleans Saints (wild-card playoffs).
In most situations, the defensive coordinator would at least come under review after that kind of performance. In Detroit, it's complicated by the fact that Schwartz has a defensive background himself and that Cunningham is a longtime friend and colleague.
So to answer Scott's question, yes, it's reasonable to ask about Cunningham's future. But Schwartz gave no indication it could be tenuous while speaking to reporters Monday. Asked if he expected his coordinators to return in 2012, Schwartz answered in the context only of losing assistants to promotions elsewhere.
"I would expect [coordinators to be back]," Schwartz said. "But when you, particularly the offense, perform the way that we did last year, coaches are going to get recognition. People are always going to try to get a piece of the success that you've had, whether it's been developing a young quarterback, dealing with injuries or anything else. We certainly have guys that are deserving. We have guys that will end up being coordinators on our staff that are position coaches right now. We have guys that are quality control coaches that will get position-type jobs. That's part of the NFL and it’s part of success and it's something we're going to have to deal with at some point over our time here."
Obviously, Schwartz wouldn't have announced his intentions at that moment. But all has been quiet from Detroit since then, even as other NFL teams scramble to shuffle their staffs. If something changes, we'll let you know.
Lions-Saints: Brandon McDonald inactive
January, 7, 2012
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Kevin Seifert | ESPN.com
NEW ORLEANS -- There are no major surprises on the Detroit Lions' inactive list for Saturday night's wild-card playoff game against the New Orleans Saints. One minor shift from the recent norm: Cornerback Don Carey is active and cornerback Brandon McDonald is inactive.
That could be a nod toward special teams, considering the Lions secondary will be at full strength with Aaron Berry back in the nickel and Alphonso Smith available to play the dime. McDonald had been active for the past two games while Berry rehabilitated a shoulder injury.
As expected, safety Louis Delmas is active and will start his first game since Thanksgiving Day. That moves Chris Harris to the inactive list; Harris has also been dealing with a back injury.
The rest of the inactives: Quarterback Drew Stanton, running back Joique Bell, linebacker Doug Hogue, guard Leonard Davis and defensive lineman Andre Fluellen.
That could be a nod toward special teams, considering the Lions secondary will be at full strength with Aaron Berry back in the nickel and Alphonso Smith available to play the dime. McDonald had been active for the past two games while Berry rehabilitated a shoulder injury.
As expected, safety Louis Delmas is active and will start his first game since Thanksgiving Day. That moves Chris Harris to the inactive list; Harris has also been dealing with a back injury.
The rest of the inactives: Quarterback Drew Stanton, running back Joique Bell, linebacker Doug Hogue, guard Leonard Davis and defensive lineman Andre Fluellen.
Field Pass: Who covers Darren Sproles?
January, 7, 2012
Jan 7
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Kevin Seifert | ESPN.com
In this week's edition of "Field Pass," ESPN analyst Mark Schlereth introduces a solid question: Who from the Detroit Lions defense will cover New Orleans Saints running back Darren Sproles out of the backfield Saturday night at the Superdome? Sproles caught 86 passes this season for seven touchdowns, including one in the Saints' Week 13 victory over the Lions. Should it be one of their athletic outside linebackers, DeAndre Levy or Justin Durant? How about safety Louis Delmas? Maybe a combination? Warning: Lions fans might not like Hugh Douglas' prediction at the end of this video.
Lions-Saints: Nearly all hands on deck
January, 6, 2012
Jan 6
5:20
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Kevin Seifert | ESPN.com
FROM THE VAST NORTH AMERICAN TRANSIT SYSTEM -- As I make my way down to New Orleans, I figured I'd check in and let you know that the Detroit Lions are as healthy as they've been in some time as Saturday night's wild-card game against the Saints approaches.
It looks like only one player, reserve safety Chris Harris, might not be available for the game. Harris hasn't practiced since Wednesday because of a back injury and is listed on the Lions' final injury report as doubtful.
All other players are either probable or not listed at all. That includes safety Louis Delmas (knee), who hasn't played since Thanksgiving Day, and nose tackle Corey Williams, who missed last week's game against the Green Bay Packers because of a hip injury.
For the Saints, receiver Lance Moore (hamstring) won't play.
It looks like only one player, reserve safety Chris Harris, might not be available for the game. Harris hasn't practiced since Wednesday because of a back injury and is listed on the Lions' final injury report as doubtful.
All other players are either probable or not listed at all. That includes safety Louis Delmas (knee), who hasn't played since Thanksgiving Day, and nose tackle Corey Williams, who missed last week's game against the Green Bay Packers because of a hip injury.
For the Saints, receiver Lance Moore (hamstring) won't play.
BBAO: Reggie McKenzie to leave Packers
January, 6, 2012
Jan 6
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Kevin Seifert | ESPN.com
We're Black and Blue All Over:
It appears the Green Bay Packers' success will cost them at least one prominent member of their organization. Reggie McKenzie, the director of football operations who has been a key talent evaluator for the team since 1994, is set to become the general manager of the Oakland Raiders. ESPN's Adam Schefter has the story.
McKenzie was originally hired by former Packers general manager Ron Wolf, who has been advising the Raiders on their search. He will be the second member of Packers general manager Ted Thompson's front office to be hired in a similar role elsewhere; two years ago, executive John Schneider became the Seattle Seahawks' general manager.
McKenzie had been linked to the Chicago Bears' job because of his friendship with Bears coach Lovie Smith, but it appears the Raiders swooped in first.
The Packers are also monitoring the interviews of offensive coordinator Joe Philbin, who has drawn interest for the head-coaching job in Kansas City and Miami. Quarterbacks coach Tom Clements was a candidate for the Penn State job, but it appears he will be staying after reports that New England Patriots offensive coordinator Bill O'Brien will be hired.
Continuing around the NFC North:
It appears the Green Bay Packers' success will cost them at least one prominent member of their organization. Reggie McKenzie, the director of football operations who has been a key talent evaluator for the team since 1994, is set to become the general manager of the Oakland Raiders. ESPN's Adam Schefter has the story.
McKenzie was originally hired by former Packers general manager Ron Wolf, who has been advising the Raiders on their search. He will be the second member of Packers general manager Ted Thompson's front office to be hired in a similar role elsewhere; two years ago, executive John Schneider became the Seattle Seahawks' general manager.
McKenzie had been linked to the Chicago Bears' job because of his friendship with Bears coach Lovie Smith, but it appears the Raiders swooped in first.
The Packers are also monitoring the interviews of offensive coordinator Joe Philbin, who has drawn interest for the head-coaching job in Kansas City and Miami. Quarterbacks coach Tom Clements was a candidate for the Penn State job, but it appears he will be staying after reports that New England Patriots offensive coordinator Bill O'Brien will be hired.
Continuing around the NFC North:
- The father of Packers guard T.J. Lang passed away Thursday, notes Jason Wilde of ESPNMilwaukee.com.
- Being the top seed in the playoffs is no guarantee of postseason success, notes Pete Dougherty of the Green Bay Press-Gazette.
- Tyler Dunne of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel on Packers cornerback Tramon Williams: "But, bottom line, Williams' hasn't been the same shut-down, no-trespassing cover man of a year ago. For the Packers to return to the Super Bowl, they may need him to be. Williams remains confident."
- Mitch Albom of the Detroit Free Press: "We've got a quarterback. No matter what happens Saturday night in New Orleans, no matter what unfolds in this first Lions playoff season since the last millennium, Detroit fans can say that sentence and take comfort in it."
- Saints defensive coordinator Gregg Williams appears to have the following plan for dealing with Lions receiver Calvin Johnson, via Carlos Monarrez of the Free Press: "But we do play very physical, and one of the things that we do is guys that are 6-5 end up being 5-5 when they get flipped over on their head. They didn't say that the rule says that the ground couldn't hurt their head. So we've got to find ways to make the ground be a part of it. We won't make helmet-to-helmet contact."
- Lions safety Louis Delmas has been silent this week as he prepares to return to the field. John Niyo of the Detroit News explains.
- Last year, the Minnesota Vikings began interviewing potential replacements for offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell before firing him. It appears they're doing the same in 2011. They have scheduled former Tampa Bay Buccaneers assistant Raheem Morris for an interview Friday, according to ESPN's Chris Mortensen. Current defensive coordinator Fred Pagac remains employed.
- Minnesota Gov. Mark Dayton wants all stadium proposals from all sites in his hands by Jan. 12. More from the St. Paul Pioneer Press.
- Jeff Dickerson of ESPNChicago.com looks at four candidates for the Chicago Bears' general manager job.
- The Bears stack up well against other teams seeking general managers, writes Sean Jensen of the Chicago Sun-Times.
- The only candidate believed to have been contacted for the job is Baltimore Ravens executive Eric DeCosta, according to Dan Pompei of the Chicago Tribune.
Lions-Saints: Louis Delmas should play
January, 3, 2012
Jan 3
5:01
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Kevin Seifert | ESPN.com
Not a moment too soon, the Detroit Lions appear on track to regain the services of a core defensive player.
Safety Louis Delmas, a Pro Bowl alternate who has missed five consecutive games because of a sprained knee, practiced Tuesday and seems likely to start Saturday night against the New Orleans Saints. Coach Jim Schwartz, who rarely gives public injury updates, told reporters that Delmas is "trending in the right direction."
Delmas sprained the MCL in right knee during the Lions' Thanksgiving Day game against the Green Bay Packers and hasn't played since. He had minor surgery Dec. 17 to repair some damage and resumed practicing last Friday.
It goes almost without saying that the Lions have missed Delmas in the interim, having used Chicago Bears castoff Chris Harris and special teams player John Wendling in his place. Never was that more evident than last Sunday at Lambeau Field, when Packers quarterback Matt Flynn torched the Lions defense for 480 yards and six touchdowns.
Speaking Monday, Schwartz made little secret about the benefits of Delmas' pending return: " We've obviously missed him and want to get him back on the field."
Safety Louis Delmas, a Pro Bowl alternate who has missed five consecutive games because of a sprained knee, practiced Tuesday and seems likely to start Saturday night against the New Orleans Saints. Coach Jim Schwartz, who rarely gives public injury updates, told reporters that Delmas is "trending in the right direction."
Delmas sprained the MCL in right knee during the Lions' Thanksgiving Day game against the Green Bay Packers and hasn't played since. He had minor surgery Dec. 17 to repair some damage and resumed practicing last Friday.
It goes almost without saying that the Lions have missed Delmas in the interim, having used Chicago Bears castoff Chris Harris and special teams player John Wendling in his place. Never was that more evident than last Sunday at Lambeau Field, when Packers quarterback Matt Flynn torched the Lions defense for 480 yards and six touchdowns.
Speaking Monday, Schwartz made little secret about the benefits of Delmas' pending return: " We've obviously missed him and want to get him back on the field."
Three things to know about next weekend's Detroit Lions-New Orleans Saints wild-card game:

1. Dome-field advantage: The Saints have been unstoppable at the Superdome this season, setting an NFL record by scoring 339 points (42.4 per game) in their eight home games, all of which they won. The Lions held the Saints well below that average per game in the teams' Week 13 matchup but still absorbed a 31-17 loss. Saints quarterback Drew Brees is the hottest quarterback in the NFL, and overall the Saints are the most difficult first-round opponent the Lions could have drawn. Anything can happen, but the Lions will enter this game as deep underdogs.
2. Slowing Brees: Every game stands on its own merits, but it's worth noting the Lions' defense -- which was missing only one starter -- gave up a record-breaking passing day Sunday to Green Bay Packers backup quarterback Matt Flynn. Safety Louis Delmas (knee) was sidelined but appears on track to return for the playoffs. How much difference can Delmas make? If the Lions gave up 480 yards and six touchdown passes to Flynn, how much might Brees light them up for? That will be the central talking point this week. Brees finished this record-breaking season with 5,476 yards and 46 touchdown passes. That's an average of 342 yards and nearly three touchdowns per game.
3. Managing the blitz: Entering Sunday's game, no NFL quarterback had been blitzed on a lower percentage of his dropbacks (23.7) than the Lions' Matthew Stafford. That makes sense, considering the number of skilled Lions pass-catchers who are left in favorable coverage against a blitz. But the Saints love to blitz under defensive coordinator Greg Williams, making for an interesting fulcrum point in this matchup. It's worth noting that Sunday, the Packers blitzed Stafford 34.4 percent of the time and dramatically limited his production on those plays. According to ESPN Stats & Information, Stafford completed nine of his 21 passes against the blitz for 154 yards and an interception Sunday. Against the Packers' standard pass rush, Stafford completed 27 of 38 passes for 366 yards, five touchdowns and one interception.

1. Dome-field advantage: The Saints have been unstoppable at the Superdome this season, setting an NFL record by scoring 339 points (42.4 per game) in their eight home games, all of which they won. The Lions held the Saints well below that average per game in the teams' Week 13 matchup but still absorbed a 31-17 loss. Saints quarterback Drew Brees is the hottest quarterback in the NFL, and overall the Saints are the most difficult first-round opponent the Lions could have drawn. Anything can happen, but the Lions will enter this game as deep underdogs.
2. Slowing Brees: Every game stands on its own merits, but it's worth noting the Lions' defense -- which was missing only one starter -- gave up a record-breaking passing day Sunday to Green Bay Packers backup quarterback Matt Flynn. Safety Louis Delmas (knee) was sidelined but appears on track to return for the playoffs. How much difference can Delmas make? If the Lions gave up 480 yards and six touchdown passes to Flynn, how much might Brees light them up for? That will be the central talking point this week. Brees finished this record-breaking season with 5,476 yards and 46 touchdown passes. That's an average of 342 yards and nearly three touchdowns per game.
3. Managing the blitz: Entering Sunday's game, no NFL quarterback had been blitzed on a lower percentage of his dropbacks (23.7) than the Lions' Matthew Stafford. That makes sense, considering the number of skilled Lions pass-catchers who are left in favorable coverage against a blitz. But the Saints love to blitz under defensive coordinator Greg Williams, making for an interesting fulcrum point in this matchup. It's worth noting that Sunday, the Packers blitzed Stafford 34.4 percent of the time and dramatically limited his production on those plays. According to ESPN Stats & Information, Stafford completed nine of his 21 passes against the blitz for 154 yards and an interception Sunday. Against the Packers' standard pass rush, Stafford completed 27 of 38 passes for 366 yards, five touchdowns and one interception.


