NFC West: combine

Long and short of it from 2012 combine

February, 29, 2012
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A quick look at some of the more extreme measurables from the recently completed 2012 NFL scouting combine (asterisks show categories with multiple qualifiers) ...
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First Draft: Kiper, McShay assess combine

February, 29, 2012
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Todd McShay of Scouts Inc. points to Texas A&M quarterback Ryan Tannehill as perhaps the most underrated player in the 2012 NFL draft.

McShay does have questions about Tannehill's leadership after the Aggies lost five games in which they held leads. But if teams determine Tannehill has what it takes as a leader, McShay expects Tannehill to take him in the top 10. He pointed to steadiness, sturdiness, a smooth delivery and accuracy as strong points for him.

The First Draft podcast features McShay and Mel Kiper Jr. breaking down Tannehill and some of the other combine prospects during a roughly 50-minute conversation.

Overall, McShay sees an unusually deep quarterback class, which could help the Seattle Seahawks in particular among NFC West teams seeking help at the position.

Why 49ers could pass on first-round WR

February, 27, 2012
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INDIANAPOLIS -- Wide receivers stood out Sunday with blazing 40-yard dash times at the NFL scouting combine.

Todd McShay of Scouts Inc. summed up the implications from his perspective Insider.

The receiver group carries special interest in the NFC West and particularly for San Francisco after the 49ers acknowledged they needed help at the position. But with a potentially strong free-agent crop, I could see the 49ers addressing their 2012 rotation with a mid-priced veteran, giving them additional flexibility in the draft.

That thinking came to mind Saturday during a roughly 40-minute conversation with McShay and fellow ESPN.com divisional bloggers Kevin Seifert, Paul Kuharsky and Bill Williamson.

What did McShay think of the receivers in this draft?

"I think they're all overrated," he said. "That doesn't mean they're not going to be good. I don't think Justin Blackmon is A.J. Green or even Julio [Jones] ones or even Michael Crabtree. He's really, really good, but certainly not Calvin Johnson or A.J. Green."

McShay's quick thoughts on some of the other receivers in this draft:
  • Kendall Wright, Baylor: "He should be in the top 25 picks. I really like him, but he drops a lot of passes and double catches some."
  • Alshon Jeffery, South Carolina: "If he wants to play, if he wants to work. You look at his body, yeah, he's down to 216, but he took a Jenny Craig 216 to cut weight. It was 240. He played at 235, I was told, and put on a little weight after, then just dumped weight. ... When the ball is in the air, he's as good as there is in this class. It's just, can he separate?
  • Mohamed Sanu, Rutgers: "I like him. He's physical, he has good hands, but he's way overrated. He can't get open."
  • Rueben Randle, LSU: "Of the guys are 6-2 and above, he can get down the field the best and is the most athletic. But he is still kind of developing as a route runner and quit on them. He quit on them in the national championship game."

Crabtree, 24, led 49ers wide receivers last season with 72 receptions for 874 yards and four touchdowns. Josh Morgan is returning from injury and could re-sign.
INDIANAPOLIS -- NFL teams can at least partially thank Arizona Cardinals cornerback Patrick Peterson for delivering one of the top prospects at the position to the 2012 draft.

Morris Claiborne credits Peterson, his former LSU teammate, for converting him from the enemy ranks: offense.

"Growing up, I was mainly an offensive guy," Claiborne said from the scouting combine Sunday. "I didn't play too much defense, just here and there, but I never really played corner til i got to college."

Claiborne initially resisted Peterson's recruitment. But Peterson, who developed the moniker "DBU" to describe LSU, won him over.

"Patrick kept on pulling me," said Claiborne, projected as a first-round pick. "I tried for a day or two and I ended up liking it."

Peterson advised Claiborne to "go up and take over" at the combine. Claiborne has not yet worked out. He'll skip the bench press until his pro day to protect a wrist injury he played with during the season.

Claiborne and Peterson, the fifth overall choice in the 2011 draft, differ in their styles.

"I'm more of a technician, trying to funnel the guys instead of getting really physical with them at the line all the time," Claiborne said.

Draft prospect takes cue from Dockett

February, 26, 2012
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INDIANAPOLIS -- California defensive lineman Trevor Guyton knew plenty about the Arizona Cardinals before meeting with them at the NFL scouting combine.

Guyton, coached at Cal by former Cardinals defensive coordinator Clancy Pendergast, has been watching Darnell Dockett tape for the last couple seasons.

"He's one of the guys who just has an elite first step, a whole lot of balance and velocity with his strikes and slants," Guyton said Sunday from Lucas Oil Stadium. "Those are the main things that I focus on when I watch him play, just the way he is penetrating and everything like that. He is pretty violent with his game."

Arizona, Minnesota, Washington, San Diego, Detroit, Pittsburgh, Tampa Bay and Jacksonville have met with Guyton so far, he said.

Combine officials measured Guyton at 6-foot-3 and 285 pounds. Guyton played in a hybrid 3-4 scheme under Pendergast. He could appeal to some 3-4 teams as an end. He could play defensive tackle in other schemes. That versatility adds appeal, but Guyton's relative inexperience could affect his stock.

Guyton grew up in Philadelphia before playing high school ball in the Seattle area. Washington State offered him a scholarship before Guyton had even played varsity ball.

"I went to a football camp at Washington State after my sophomore year and I just killed it," Guyton said.
INDIANAPOLIS -- Quick thoughts after a second session watching quarterbacks and receivers at the NFL scouting combine in Lucas Oil Stadium:
  • Who did not throw: Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III, Ryan Tannehill and Brock Osweiler were among the more highly regarded quarterbacks opting not to throw Sunday. I was watching receivers more than quarterbacks in this session. Kellen Moore, Darron Thomas and Brandon Weeden were among the quarterbacks throwing.
  • Who did not catch: Alabama receiver Marquis Maze struggled holding onto the ball. He caught only 9 of 14 passes while running through the gauntlet drill with quarterbacks firing passes at him in rapid succession, seven per drill over two drills. He dropped one pass on a hitch route and watched another go through his hands without making contact.
  • Running the gauntlet: Overall, receivers were much more effective in the first of the two gauntlet drills. Nineteen of the 24 receivers I charted caught all seven the first time through, with Maze dropping three, Miami's Tommy Streeter dropping two and two players, Arizona State's Gerell Robinson and Fresno State's Devon Wylie, dropping one apiece. Only 11 of the 24 receivers in this group caught all seven the second time through.
  • Who showed surest hands: Washington's Jermaine Kearse, Iowa's Marvin McNutt, Penn State's Derek Moye, Stanford's Chris Owusu, Toledo's Eric Page, Appalachian State's Brian Quick, Rutgers Mohamed Sanu and Baylor's Kendall Wright did not drop passes during the gauntlet drills or when I was watching them in other drills. The ball barely made a sound when McNutt caught it.
  • Sitting out: Wisconsin's Nick Toon did not participate in receiving drills with this group. He's been dealing with a foot injury. Toon did run 40-yard dashes, running in the 4.5s, and he participated in the vertical jump.

This was the second of two trips inside Lucas Oil Stadium as part of groups organized by the Pro Football Writers of America. I'll remain here until Monday morning, working from the media room at the stadium.

Quick impressions from inside combine

February, 26, 2012
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INDIANAPOLIS -- A few thoughts after watching select quarterbacks and wide receivers work out inside Lucas Oil Stadium on Sunday morning:
  • Disclaimer: In some ways and probably overall, watching the action on television beats watching from the stands, at least for those of us who aren't trained in scouting. Our group of reporters watching this session had prime club-level seats at about the 35-yard line. The players were working on the other side of the field. There were times when I glanced up to the big screen to make sure I'd properly identified the players.
  • Assignments: The Pro Football Writers of America assigned one or two players to each of the roughly 20 reporters watching this specific group. Arizona quarterback Nick Foles and Oklahoma State receiver Justin Blackmon were the players on my list. Sometimes it's tough to tell how a player fared, but in this case, Foles obviously struggled with his longer passes. Quarterbacks are often more comfortable throwing to their own receivers. In this case, Foles failed to connect deep when Arizona teammate Juron Criner was his receiver.
  • My notes on Foles: "Foles struggled with his throws, particularly on post-corner routes. Coaches appeared to advise him on his deep-ball trajectory after Foles overthrew Arizona teammate Juron Criner on an early deep pass. Foles put too much air under subsequent deep passes. He did not hit receivers in stride on those balls. Foles did elicit a 'good throw' commendation from one coach after connecting with Michigan's Kenneth Hemingway on a 10-yard out route. North Carolina State's Trevor Graham dropped pass from Foles on a hitch route."
  • My notes on Blackmon: "Blackmon appeared to be protecting his sore hamstring. He did not appear to open up and really run. He bobbled one pass while running through the gauntlet. He dropped one pass on a go route. There wasn't much to see here." The gauntlet consists of receivers running the width of the field while catching passes from quarterbacks stationed along the way. Receivers are to catch and quickly discard passes from seven quarterbacks while running the 53-yard width. Blackmon went to the ground making one catch.
  • Obvious limping: Tennessee Tech receiver Tim Benford seemed to be limping each time he returned to the group after running his routes. He appeared to step awkwardly after making an impressive over-the-shoulder catch early in the session. Wake Forest's Chris Givens appeared to suffer from cramping. He left the field with a trainer and stretched one leg while sitting on a table.
  • Diving grab: Georgia Tech's Stephen Hill made the most spectacular catch, a diving grab on a deep pass.
  • Quiet in there: Players are accustomed to performing before raucous crowds. The atmosphere in Lucas Oil Stadium would have let them hold a putting competition. We could hear the passes hitting players' hands.

There's another session scheduled for noon.

Programming note: Heading inside stadium

February, 26, 2012
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INDIANAPOLIS -- I'll be heading into Lucas Oil Stadium with other Professional Football Writers of America members for quarterback/receiver workouts beginning at 9:45 and noon ET.

We'll be watching workouts and getting a feel for the overall atmosphere.

There is a production tradeoff; the time spent inside makes blogging more difficult. But hopefully there will be some reward from getting a first-hand look at the proceedings.

NFC West combine primer

February, 22, 2012
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A few of the NFC West angles I'll be tracking from the NFL scouting combine beginning Thursday:

  • Value of the No. 2 overall pick. The St. Louis Rams hold it, but they already have their quarterback. The pick's trade value could fluctuate based on how well Baylor quarterback Robert Griffin III performs — not just at the combine, where he is expected to run (not throw), but also at his pro day. The Rams have needs throughout their roster. They need additional picks. Moving back from No. 2 would not necessarily require settling for a lesser player if quarterbacks were the first two players chosen.
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    Doug Pensinger/Getty ImagesReceiver Justin Blackmon could help his draft stock depending on how well he performs at this week's NFL combine.

  • Justin Blackmon's 40-yard time. The Rams need weapons for quarterback Sam Bradford. Blackmon, the big wide receiver from Oklahoma State, could help in that area. NFL teams will want to see how well he runs at the combine. Raw speed isn't everything for wide receivers, of course. It can be vastly overrated, particularly for wideouts with Blackmon's size. Still, a respectable 40-yard time could make teams feel better about drafting Blackmon among the first few picks overall.
  • Coin toss. Seattle and Kansas City finished tied in calculations for draft order. As a result, they will flip a coin to determine which team picks 11th and which one picks 12th.
  • QBs beyond the top two. Andrew Luck and Griffin figure to be long gone when Seattle picks 11th or 12th overall. Will Ryan Tannehill or another quarterback open eyes at the combine? Last year, early mock drafts projected only a couple first-round quarterbacks. Teams wound up drafting four among the top 12 overall choices. Seahawks general manager John Schneider recently stressed an aversion to forcing a quarterback pick based on need. Is it too early to rule out taking one 11th or 12th?
  • Sizing up the pass-rushers. Seattle would love to snag a top-tier rusher in this draft, particularly if quarterback isn't a viable option early. North Carolina's Quinton Coples and South Carolina's Melvin Ingram are two to watch. We'll want to emerge from the combine with a better feel for which players might fit.
  • Kalil and the tackle class. Arizona and St. Louis need help at offensive tackle. USC's Matt Kalil figures to be the top prospect and gone among the first several overall selections. Where do Iowa's Riley Reiff and Stanford's Jonathan Martin fit into the picture? Will they be gone when Arizona picks 13th overall?
  • Value at the receiver position. The San Francisco 49ers have relatively few needs. They went 13-3 on the strength of good coaching and talent. They could use help at wide receiver, however. That doesn't necessarily mean they need to draft one in the first round. Last year, they watched Doug Baldwin, who had played for 49ers coach Jim Harbaugh at Stanford, become a threat in Seattle as an undrafted free agent. Receiver wound up being one of the very few positions San Francisco did not address particularly well, either through free agency or the draft. Which wideouts could make surprising rookie impacts among those chosen later?

Thanks to those who weighed in with thoughts earlier Wednesday. I'm still going through some of those and will follow up as the combine gets going.

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