NFC West: Steve Vallos

Around the NFC West: Blow up Hawks?

December, 14, 2009
Dec 14
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Jerry Brewer of the Seattle Times says the Seahawks' performance during a 34-7 defeat to the Texans should clear the way for a massive offseason overhaul. Brewer: "The transitioning Seahawks should have no confusion over how much chopping they'll need to do after they hire a new general manager. The whole tree can come down, if need be. Before this game, the Seahawks seemed in prime position to play well enough late in the season to shed some doubt over how much change they require. Not anymore. They're still closer to the team that lost seven of its first 10 games than the one that claimed consecutive victories before this shameful showing."

Danny O'Neil of the Seattle Times says Seahawks coach Jim Mora expressed frustration with center Chris Spencer, who participated in three botched snaps. Mora: "We've got a center that's trying to snap with his left hand, and has a cast on his right hand, which he's had on it seems like forever, which I'm not quite sure why he's still got a cast on his hand, but he does. And that is a factor. That is a big factor. You see it affecting on shotgun snaps. You saw it affecting a lot of our running plays today. The timing on offense has to be crisp. And when you can't get the snap to the quarterback, you've got no chance of having a successful play." Mora is either calling out the training staff or questioning Spencer's toughness -- or both. Sounds like a comment made in frustration.

Also from O'Neil: The Seahawks could not touch Andre Johnson or the Texans.

More from O'Neil: Linebacker Aaron Curry suffered a hip pointer. Receiver Nate Burleson injured an ankle.

Eric D. Williams of the Tacoma News Tribune says cornerback Marcus Trufant must not be full strength, according to Mora. Mora: "The years that I’ve known him, I don’t see him at 100 percent, top-end speed right now,” Mora said. “I don’t see that long speed that has made 'Tru' such a good player. It’s got to be a residual. He hasn’t lost it. I mean it didn’t go away. He’s the same guy. He works the same way. So it’s got to be something that’s triggering that."

Also from Williams: The offensive line has failed quarterback Matt Hasselbeck. Mora: "I’m not happy with our offensive line. I’m not happy at all with them. And if we can make moves to make them better up there, we’re going to make them because it’s unacceptable for our quarterback to stand back there and get hit the way he’s getting hit."

More from Williams: The Seahawks "sleepwalked" through another road game.

Greg Johns of seattlepi.com thinks Steve Vallos could replace Chris Spencer at center for the Seahawks.

Where the Seahawks must improve

December, 2, 2009
Dec 2
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By Mike Sando
Seeing the Seahawks listed with the Bucs, Lions, Bills and Chiefs for having zero players among the leaders in Pro Bowl balloting affirmed the decline we have seen on the field.

The time is coming for the organization to acknowledge that the talent deficiencies aren't mostly a product of injuries.

Kevin Calabro of 710ESPN Seattle asked Tuesday where the team needs to begin its upgrade.

I pointed directly to the offensive line (answer begins 21 minutes into this audio file).

The Seahawks also need to think about finding their next quarterback. But fixing the offensive line is the surest way to restore a quarterback, develop a running game and take pressure off a defense.

Left tackle Walter Jones is either finished or nearing the end. It's time to draft the next long-term starter in that spot. It's time to decide whether to re-sign Chris Spencer at center. It's time to consider adding a veteran free agent with more staying power than the now-retired Mike Wahle. It's time to treat the offensive line the way management treated the receiver position last offseason: as priority No. 1.

Earlier: NFC West draft watch focusing on the big guys up front.

Around the NFC West: Same Seattle line?

November, 5, 2009
Nov 5
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Posted by ESPN.com's Mike Sando

Clare Farnsworth of seahawks.com says the team could start the same five offensive linemen in back-to-back games for the first time since Week 2. So much for continuity. Sean Locklear, Brandon Frye, Kyle Williams, Damion McIntosh, Rob Sims, Mansfield Wrotto, Steve Vallos, Chris Spencer, Max Unger and Ray Willis have started on the line for Seattle this season. It wasn't always this way. Chris Gray started all but one game on the Seahawks' line from 2000 through 2007. Robbie Tobeck started every game from 2001 through 2005. Steve Hutchinson started every game from 2003 through 2005. Walter Jones started just about every game from 1998 through 2007.

Also from Farnsworth: The Seahawks want to take a longer look at running back Louis Rankin, whose speed intrigues the coaching staff. Farnsworth: "Pressed a bit, Rankin said he ran the 40 in 4.4 seconds -- in the rain -- during his workout with the Seahawks."

Danny O'Neil of the Seattle Times says Locklear probably will not start on the Seahawks' offensive line in Week 9. Also, Deion Branch had this to say about his post-touchdown comments telling the world where he could be found: "I've been accepting my role. If I wanted to start something, I would have done it in minicamp. That's not me. I wouldn't say those type of things. Me and management, we talked about it. We both understood what was what. They told me what was going on in preseason. I understood that going into this season."

Also from O'Neil: At least the Seahawks aren't the Lions. Has it come to this?

Greg Johns of seattlepi.com checks in with Rankin, who opened the University of Washington's 2007 game against Washington State with an 89-yard kickoff return for a touchdown. Offensive coordinator Greg Knapp: "He has very good speed and hits the hole very fast. He does have some background in the zone run game that shows us some chances to hit that hole fast and get a big run for us."

Ryan Divish of the Tacoma News Tribune says Sims worked some at left tackle in case Locklear isn't ready to play even as a backup.

Kent Somers of the Arizona Republic quotes Cardinals defensive tackle Darnell Dockett this way: "You usually don't win a game on Sunday. You usually win the games Wednesday, Thursday, Friday in practice. I'm just trying to get my guys to understand that you can't just turn it on on Sunday."

Also from Somers: a look at issues facing the Cardinals in the passing game. Larry Fitzgerald: "I've seen my fair share of coverages, but we're not using any excuses; we've got to find solutions. I haven't played great, by any stretch of the imagination. The teams that we play against ... they watch tape like everybody else does. They want to make us go on long drives, and when you make long drives you have to make tough third-down catches. We understand that and we have to deal with it."

Darren Urban of azcardinals.com found one guy who doesn't have a problem with Tim Hightower leading NFL running backs in receptions. "You can control the ball, it’s a high-percentage pass, and as long as it keeps the offense going, I don’t think anyone should complain," Larry Centers said.

Bill Coats of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch says Rams coach Steve Spagnuolo plans to hang out locally over the weekend as the team observes its bye week. Spagnuolo: "My wife and I would like to stay here and enjoy St. Louis. You don’t get to do that during the season. So we’ll be in town. I’m sure we’ll find some places to eat and just relax a little bit."

Also from Coats: The Rams' tight ends are carrying more of the receiving load than expected.

More from Coats: "I like the Rams’ future, because I think they’re going about things the right way. That is, they’re not pulling off desperate moves now to try to win a relatively meaningless game or two but hamstringing themselves down the road. They’re being patient and prudent, and I believe that approach will pay off in the long run."

Nick Wagoner of stlouisrams.com says Spagnuolo's consistency is a strength.

Jim Thomas of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch says Rams quarterback Marc Bulger has come under fire for sliding short of a first down on a third-and-6 play against the Lions. Bulger is an undersized quarterback with durability concerns.

Jeff Gordon of stltoday.com says the Rams' progress isn't obvious from afar. Spagnuolo on the first half of his first season as an NFL head coach: "There were some struggles, there were some good things, but we have built something. We talked this morning on the foundation we wanted to build. There is some trust, there is mutual respect, there is unity in the team. I think more than anything, we take that away."

Steve Korte of the Belleville News-Democrat says Steven Jackson has become a leader on the Rams. I agree. Jackson has set a standard for teammates. He has bought into what Spagnuolo is teaching. Without Jackson onboard, Spagnuolo's job would be much tougher.

Matt Barrows of the Sacramento Bee says the newly added Chris Patrick will back up both tackle spots for the 49ers. Barrows: "Patrick said he played on both the left and right sides at Nebraska and also has played both positions in preseason. He has not played in a regular-season game."

Also from Barrows: Titans coach Jeff Fisher thinks the 49ers are on the right track philosophically.

Matt Maiocco of the Santa Rosa Press-Democrat says the 49ers expect Parys Haralson's production to pick up as the 49ers face fewer teams that favor max-protection schemes. Coach Mike Singletary: "Max protection is one of the main things that's happened for all of our guys. But we'll still find a way to get there."

Daniel Brown of the San Jose Mercury News says the 49ers' run defense faces a tough challenge against the Titans' Chris Johnson. Fisher: "To have played teams like Atlanta and St. Louis and Minnesota and be where they are against the run is impressive. "That's not a misleading statistic. They're very sound, and they play well." What, no mention of the Seattle or Arizona ground games?

Around the NFC West: Seahawks appear done

October, 19, 2009
Oct 19
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Steve Kelley of the Seattle Times says the Seahawks can forget about their plans for this season after losing 27-3 to the Cardinals. Kelley: "These Seahawks, like last season's Seahawks, are going nowhere in January. In the latest tragedy for this season by Aeschylus, they lost defensive leader and middle linebacker Lofa Tatupu for the season Sunday with a torn pectoral muscle. Their offensive line remains a 'who's-he' of mismatched parts. When they opened camp in July, nobody on the Seahawks' staff expected to start a line of Kyle Williams, Steve Vallos, Chris Spencer, Max Unger and Ray Willis. Forget about the playoffs."

Danny O'Neil of the Seattle Times says the Seahawks crossed midfield just once Sunday -- on a fake punt. O'Neil: "Seattle crossed midfield just once, and that was on a 42-yard pass from punter Jon Ryan on a fake. It was Seattle's longest play, setting up the field goal that kept the Seahawks from being shut out, and accounted for nearly half of their first-half total of 90 yards of offense."

Jerry Brewer of the Seattle Times describes the Seahawks' performance this way: "It wasn't just a joke. It was a full-fledged roast, a relentless punch-line assault on a punchless, pathetic, plummeting football team."

Percy Allen of the Seattle Times says Matt Hasselbeck was an easy target for Arizona. Adrian Wilson: "We weren't trying to proving anything to anybody. If anything, all this does is prove we're still the team to beat in the NFC West. Seattle controlled this division for a long time, but now we'd like to get a run going like they had."

Clare Farnsworth of seahawks.com names Kurt Warner player of the game for his efforts against Seattle. Larry Fitzgerald: "Kurt does such a good job of reading what the defense gives us. He’s just so efficient with the football. He doesn’t make many mistakes. Those are the kind of games he’s going to play."

Also from Farnsworth: News that Lofa Tatupu would miss the rest of the season hit Seattle hard. Hasselbeck: "That’s terrible, terrible news. I don’t know what to say."

More from Farnsworth: The Seahawks can forget about using their bye week to get everyone healthy. Tatupu's injury wrecked those plans.

More still from Farnsworth: Twelve Seattle starters have missed a combined 35 games.

Art Thiel of seattlepi.com says the Seahawks didn't need Owen Schmitt to bang his helmet against anyone's head. The Cardinals did it for them.

Doug Pacey of the Tacoma News Tribune recounts Fitzgerald's latest domination of Seattle.

Also from Pacey: The Cardinals' opening drive was "demoralizing" for Seattle, according to Warner.

Eric D. Williams of the Tacoma News Tribune says Tatupu had missed only one game to injury before this season. Pectoral surgery is scheduled for this week.

Also from Williams: Julius Jones says there can be no excuses for Seattle's performance. Jones: "The excuses are over with. It’s time to perform. And if you can’t get it done, then somebody else can. But we’ve got to come together as a team and decide what we want to be. We need a bye, especially after getting thumped like that. We've just got to regroup. Sometimes you have to hit the reset button, and this could be it for us."

Dave Boling of the Tacoma News Tribune says the Seahawks found out the hard way what it's like to play with fourth-string offensive linemen. The drop from third- to fourth-string was catastrophic for Seattle. Boling: "Injured starting left guard Rob Sims should be back after next week's bye. His spot had been filled by Mansfield Wrotto, who later made way for Steve Vallos. But there are no guarantees that starting tackles Walter Jones and Sean Locklear will be healthy to return after the bye. The knee problems of Jones started the dreadful domino avalanche. Locklear had to move into that spot, only to be replaced by Brandon Frye after Locklear was hurt. Frye's injury last week meant that Kyle Williams –- the fourth left tackle of the season -– had to go Sunday against the Cardinals defense."

Todd Fredrickson of the Everett Herald says the Cardinals reinforced the message they sent by winning at Seattle last season.

Rich Myhre of the Everett Herald charts the Seahawks' futility in Week 6. Myhre: "Seattle had just 128 yards of total offense, and 42 of those yards came on one play -- a fake-punt pass completion from punter Jon Ryan to tight end John Carlson. The 128 yards matched the seventh-lowest total in franchise history. The Seahawks finished with seven first downs, tying for the sixth fewest in team history. And Seattle failed to get a rushing first down, the fourth time that has ever happened."

Personnel report: Seahawks' Forsett earning way

October, 16, 2009
Oct 16
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Seahawks Personnel Group vs. Jaguars in Week 5
Carries Yards Per Carry Pass Attempts Yards Per Attempt TD
1RB-1TE 15 3.7 19 8.0 2
2RB-1TE 12 4.8 6 11.7 2
1RB-2TE 3 2.3 4 7.3 0
2RB-2TE 4 1.0 1 0.0 0
4WR 0 0.0 1 2.0 0
3TE 0 0.0 0 0.0 0
Totals 34 3.6 31 8.2 4
Posted by ESPN.com's Mike Sando

A few things stood out while watching the Seahawks' 41-0 victory over the Jaguars in Week 5. I'll spin some observations forward as the team heads into Week 6:
  • Justin Forsett is earning -- and will get -- more touches in the regular offense. My take three weeks ago was that Forsett, primarily a third-down back to this point, had done enough to start getting touches on earlier downs. Seattle left Forsett alone in the backfield six times in the first quarter against the Jaguars, more than he had in the first quarters of the previous four games. Forsett is challenging to become the best pass-blocking back on the team even though Julius Jones and Edgerrin James are strong in that area. He lacks top-end speed, but he's quick and appears trustworthy in key situations. He did a nice job chipping on his way out of the backfield, helping the left tackle substantially on one play.
  • For the first time in his career, defensive end Darryl Tapp has sustained the momentum he gathered during training camp. He's no longer just a pass-rusher, either. He's making a difference for this defense. Jaguars tackle Eugene Monroe had trouble with him. Even Will Herring is producing as Leroy Hill's injury replacement. Aaron Curry is developing quickly and I think he's elevating the play of those around him, including Lofa Tatupu. More on Curry later in the day. Lawrence Jackson is another young defensive player making significant contributions. It's striking what good defensive coaching can do for a team (particularly when that team is not facing Peyton Manning).
  • Kyle Williams will have problems at left tackle. This isn't his fault. Williams projected as a potential backup right tackle or right guard coming out of USC. He should not be a starting left tackle, but the Seahawks have few choices at this point. The Jaguars pushed back Williams into Matt Hasselbeck's area a couple of times. The Cardinals' Calais Campbell could be a problem for him. Overall, Seattle has weathered injuries to its offensive line better than I would have anticipated. But the bottom line is tough: Seattle will likely start its projected fourth-string left guard (Steve Vallos) and fourth-string left tackle (Williams) in a pivotal division game.
  • Seattle used its "11" personnel package (one back, one tight end) 26 times on first and second downs, seven more times than the team used its base "21" personnel in those situations. Forsett gets most of his playing time in 11 personnel, but Jones is still the primary back when the Seahawks use that grouping on early downs.
  • The Seahawks are starting to use two tight ends even in passing situations as they look for ways to improve pass protection while playing without both starting tackles. On back-to-back plays against the Jaguars, Seattle used one back with two tight ends on second-and-11 and third-and-11, highly unusual (Hasselbeck found Nate Burleson for a 15-yard gain on the third-and-11 play). Against the Colts, the team used 10 snaps with three receivers and two tight ends, a grouping I had never seen Seattle use (the Cardinals used it some last season).
  • The Jaguars were horrible. Rashean Mathis, normally a good corner, almost appeared disinterested. He played two-hand touch instead of tackling on one of Burleson's touchdown plays. Jacksonville's horrible showing was the only thing that should temper Seattle's enthusiasm coming out of this game. If the Seahawks make a statement against Arizona by winning convincingly -- the situation at left tackle provides the greatest obstacle -- enthusiasm will be justified.
For download: Full 2009 Seahawks offensive personnel report with summary information for Week 5 and all games.
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<td align="center" bgcolor="#e6e6e6"><span style="font-family: Verdana;font-size: xx-small">3.7</span></td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#e6e6e6"><span style="font-size: xx-small"><span style="font-family: Verdana">19</span></span></td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#e6e6e6"><span style="font-family: Verdana;font-size: xx-small">8.0</span></td>
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<td align="center" bgcolor="#e6e6e6"><span style="font-size: xx-small"><span style="font-family: Verdana">12</span></span></td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#e6e6e6"><span style="font-family: Verdana;font-size: xx-small">4.8</span></td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#e6e6e6"><span style="font-size: xx-small"><span style="font-family: Verdana">6</span></span></td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#e6e6e6"><span style="font-family: Verdana;font-size: xx-small">11.7</span></td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#e6e6e6"><span style="font-family: Verdana;font-size: xx-small">2</span></td>
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<td align="center" bgcolor="#e6e6e6"><span style="font-family: Verdana;font-size: xx-small">2.3</span></td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#e6e6e6"><span style="font-family: Verdana;font-size: xx-small">4</span></td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#e6e6e6"><span style="font-family: Verdana;font-size: xx-small">7.3</span></td>
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<td align="center" bgcolor="#e6e6e6"><span style="font-size: xx-small"><span style="font-family: Verdana">0</span></span></td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#e6e6e6"><span style="font-family: Verdana;font-size: xx-small">0.0</span></td>
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<td align="center" bgcolor="#e6e6e6"><span style="font-family: Verdana;font-size: xx-small">2.0</span></td>
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<td align="center" bgcolor="#000000"><strong><span style="font-family: Verdana;color: #ffffff;font-size: xx-small">3.6</span></strong></td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#000000"><strong><span style="font-family: Verdana;color: #ffffff;font-size: xx-small">31</span></strong></td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#000000"><strong><span style="font-family: Verdana;color: #ffffff;font-size: xx-small">8.2</span></strong></td>
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<em>Posted by ESPN.com's Mike Sando</em>

A few things stood out while watching the Seahawks' 41-0 victory over the Jaguars in Week 5. I'll spin some observations forward as the team heads into Week 6:
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<li><a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=11467" target="_new">Justin Forsett</a> is earning -- and will get -- more touches in the regular offense. <a href="http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/5755/mailbag-forsetts-role-in-seahawks-offense" target="_blank">My take three weeks ago</a> was that Forsett, primarily a third-down back to this point, had done enough to start getting touches on earlier downs. Seattle left Forsett alone in the backfield six times in the first quarter against the Jaguars, more than he had in the first quarters of the previous four games. Forsett is challenging to become the best pass-blocking back on the team even though <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=5568" target="_new">Julius Jones</a> and <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=1755" target="_new">Edgerrin James</a> are strong in that area. He lacks top-end speed, but he's quick and appears trustworthy in key situations. He did a nice job chipping on his way out of the backfield, helping the left tackle substantially on one play.</li>
<li>For the first time in his career, linebacker <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=9649" target="_new">Darryl Tapp</a> has sustained the momentum he gathered during training camp. He's no longer just a pass-rusher, either. He's making a difference for this defense. Jaguars tackle <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=12620" target="_new">Eugene Monroe</a> had trouble with him. Even <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=10604" target="_new">Will Herring</a> is producing as <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=8512" target="_new">Leroy Hill</a>'s injury replacement. <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=12452" target="_new">Aaron Curry</a> is developing quickly and I think he's elevating the play of those around him, including <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=8459" target="_new">Lofa Tatupu</a>. More on Curry later in the day. <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=11262" target="_new">Lawrence Jackson</a> is another young defensive player making significant contributions. It's striking what good defensive coaching can do for a team (particularly when that team is not facing <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=1428" target="_new">Peyton Manning</a>).</li>
<li><a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=10949" target="_new">Kyle Williams</a> will have problems at left tackle. This isn't his fault. Williams projected as a potential backup right tackle or right guard coming out of USC. He should not be a starting left tackle, but the Seahawks have few choices at this point. The Jaguars pushed back Williams into <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=1575" target="_new">Matt Hasselbeck</a>'s area a couple times. The Cardinals' <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=11284" target="_new">Calais Campbell</a> could be a problem for him. Overall, Seattle has weathered injuries to its offensive line better than I would have anticipated. But the bottom line is tough: Seattle will likely start its projected fourth-string left guard (<a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=10675" target="_new">Steve Vallos</a>) and fourth-string left tackle (Williams) in a pivotal division game.</li>
<li> Seattle used its "11" personnel package (one back, one tight end) 26 times on first and second downs, seven more times than the team used its base "21" personnel in those situations. Forsett gets most of his playing time in 11 personnel, but Jones is still the primary back when the Seahawks use that grouping on early downs.</li>
<li>The Seahawks are starting to use two tight ends even in passing situations as they look for ways to improve pass protection while playing without both starting tackles. On back-to-back plays against the Jaguars, Seattle used one back with two tight ends on second-and-11 and third-and-11, highly unusual (Hasselbeck found <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=4529" target="_new">Nate Burleson</a> for a 15-yard gain on the third-and-11 play). Against the Colts, the team used 10 snaps with three receivers and two tight ends, a grouping I had never seen Seattle use (the Cardinals used it some last season).</li>
<li>The Jaguars were horrible. <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=4497" target="_new">Rashean Mathis</a>, normally a good corner, almost appeared disinterested. He played two-hand touch instead of tackling on one of Burleson's touchdown plays. Jacksonville's horrible showing was the only thing that should temper Seattle's enthusiasm coming out of this game. If the Seahawks make a statement against Arizona by winning convincingly -- the situation at left tackle provides the greatest obstacle -- enthusiasm will be justified.</li>
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<strong>For download:</strong> Full 2009 Seahawks offensive <a href="http://www.divshare.com/download/8923588-875" target="_blank">personnel report</a> with summary information for Week 5 and all games.

Cardinals, Seahawks draw lines differently

October, 15, 2009
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The Cardinals' problems on their offensive line -- specifically in pass protection at tackle -- come despite continuity. The Seahawks' success on their line, relative as it might be, comes despite constant shuffling.

Arizona has started the same five linemen in the same five spots for 24 games dating to the 2008 opener. That counts four playoff games.

During the same time, the Seahawks have started 11 combinations on their line. They have started four players at left tackle, four players at left guard, two at center, five at right guard and two at right tackle.

The breakdown for Seattle (starts in parenthesis): Eleven players have started for Seattle during that time. Three of them -- Frye, Wahle and Womack -- are no longer on the roster.

Around the NFC West: Assessing Boldin

September, 13, 2009
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Dan Bickley of the Arizona Republic says Anquan Boldin's hamstring problems have become a trigger for cynicism. Bickley: "Boldin no longer receives unconditional support from the masses, nor does he deserve it. When he faked a hamstring injury to make a statement about his contract during minicamp, it cheapened his toughness. His hamstrings became a tool for his agent and a gauge of his unhappiness. The latter remains a tender subject."

Darren Urban of azcardinals.com says the 49ers-Cardinals rivalry has been packed with drama in recent seasons. Niners coach Mike Singletary called this just another game, however.

Also from Urban: Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie needs to become more consistent. Defensive coordinator Bill Davis: "At least now he’s aware of what he doesn’t know and aware of what he needs to work on. That’s half the battle."

Kent Somers of the Arizona Republic also expects drama when the Cardinals and 49ers play.

Matt Maiocco of the Santa Rosa Press-Democrat passes along what Singletary says he learned during the 49ers' poorly executed finish at Arizona last season. Singletary: "It had to do with the communication from the booth. It had to do with the communication on the field with the referees. So, yes, I learned something from that. You try to figure out ways to communicate as best you can to eliminate those things, but they come up in a game. So preparation is the key, and that’s some of the things we have to continue to work on."

Lowell Cohn of the Santa Rosa Press-Democrat sees a 6-10 team when he sizes up the 49ers. He sees a team that failed to address its personnel shortcomings and a coach who has proven he can talk a good game. Cohn: "It is essential to understand Singletary and general manager Scot McCloughan knew the team's three weaknesses when last season ended -- quarterback, offensive line and pass rush. They did nothing to improve these areas, solved nothing. One might accuse them of being careless or perhaps absent-minded. Back to the questions."

Gwen Knapp of the San Francisco Chronicle says the stakes are high for the 49ers. Knapp: "A win in the desert, over last season's Super Bowl runner-up, wouldn't necessarily inspire confidence all on its own. But if it is built on Singletary's platform - a relentless running game; Shaun Hill's savvy, if not stylish, play; and steadfast defense -- everything will look different." For at least a week, anyway.

John Crumpacker of the San Francisco Chronicle says the 49ers' offensive philosophy did not appear to Kurt Warner when the quarterback visited team headquarters as a free agent. Warner: "As similar as our beliefs were, as great as it could have been, I really felt I was supposed to be in Arizona. I felt it was a pretty good fit (in San Francisco) from an overall perspective. It wasn't such a perfect fit football-wise. ... Singletary wants to run the ball first, pass the ball second. Obviously, I like to do the opposite."

Steve Korte of the Belleville News-Democrat relays thoughts from the Rams' coordinators on why they'll coach from the sideline (Pat Shurmur, offense) and booth (Ken Flajole, defense).

John Morgan of Field Gulls imagines what would have to happen for the Seahawks to finish with records ranging from 3-13 to 12-4 or better.

Danny O'Neil of the Seattle Times says September is the season for hope in the NFL, including for the Seahawks.

Clare Farnsworth of seahawks.com checks in with Gus Bradley as the Seattle assistant prepares to make his NFL debut as a defensive coordinator. Coach Jim Mora: "He’ll do great. He's a tireless worker and he’ll be thoroughly prepared, so I think he’ll be fine. He has a really good mix of enthusiasm and the ability to remain calm when he's talking to the players. He's able to turn it up and turn it down at the right time, and it will be fun to watch."

Greg Johns of seattlepi.com says the Seahawks' 2009 opener has a different feel with Mora making his debut as head coach in Seattle. Johns: "Tight end John Carlson and linemen Steve Vallos and Ray Willis are the only returners on offense from the group that faced Arizona last Dec. 28; Vallos and Willis ironically filling in again now only because of new injuries to Chris Spencer and Walter Jones."

Brock Huard of 710ESPN Seattle outlines keys to the game for the Seahawks. Huard: "With the O-line and WR issues in St. Louis, I expect the Hawks defense to 'stay on schedule' or win the early downs and force the Rams into 3rd and 7+ situations. Winning those nickel situations and getting off the field will be the difference between a 30-10 game or a 21-14 game."

Brian McIntyre of Scout.com predicts a Seahawks victory while pointing out this "Fun Fact" in previewing the Rams-Seahawks game: "From the time he entered the NFL to the 9:49 mark of the 1st quarter of the Rams-Seahawks game on November 25, 2007 at the Edward Jones Dome, Rams quarterback Marc Bulger had a career passer rating of 91.3. On a 3rd-and-7 play from the Seattle 26-yard line, Bulger suffered a concussion after being hit from behind by blitzing Seahawks linebacker Leroy Hill, who came untouched from the blindside. Since that play, a span that covers 18 starts, Bulger’s passer rating is 68.6."

Jim Thomas of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch says Bulger is facing a make-or-break season as Rams quarterback, even though teammates speak highly of his leadership. Thomas: "How long is the leash if Bulger struggles out of the gate? There's no doubt that Bulger enters the season with the full backing of Shurmur and head coach Steve Spagnuolo. But if one thing has been made perfectly clear in the offseason and preseason, this coaching staff -- and this front office -- isn't afraid to make changes if they don't like what they're seeing."

Also from Thomas: He gives the Rams' offense an edge against the Seahawks' defense.

Bryan Burwell of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch offers simple expectations for the Rams this season: "All I want them to do is not disappoint me."

Bill Coats of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch checks in with the Rams' rookie contributors, from Jason Smith to James Laurinaitis to Darell Scott and beyond. Laurinaitis: "It's something that I've dreamed about all my life, this moment. It's something that I'm cherishing, and I'm excited for the opportunity."

Three of nine oldest teams in NFC West

September, 7, 2009
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Age Rank NFL Team Average Age
1 Redskins 28.02
2 Saints 27.99
3 Cardinals 27.74
3 Patriots 27.74
5 Lions 27.62
6 49ers 27.51
7 Steelers 27.50
8 Vikings 27.48
9 Seahawks 27.41
10 Falcons 27.39
11 Titans 27.29
12 Browns 27.18
13 Jets 27.16
13 Broncos 27.16
15 Bears 27.02
16 Cowboys 26.93
17 Bills 26.93
18 Chargers 26.93
19 Texans 26.89
20 Giants 26.88
21 Ravens 26.83
22 Raiders 26.82
23 Eagles 26.81
24 Rams 26.73
25 Jaguars 26.61
26 Bengals 26.60
27 Dolphins 26.47
28 Bucs 26.46
29 Panthers 26.39
30 Chiefs 26.36
31 Colts 26.34
32 Packers 26.16
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A few roster-related notes across the league following roster moves through Sunday, with an eye toward the NFC West:
  • The NFC West featured three of the nine oldest rosters in the league. The Cardinals were third-oldest at 27.7 years old. The 49ers were sixth-oldest (27.5) and the Seahawks were ninth-oldest (27.4). The Rams were 24th-oldest (26.7). Ages are to the day, not rounded down to the nearest year.
  • The chart ranks teams oldest to youngest. The Cowboys (26.934), Bills (26.932) and Chargers (26.930) were about the same age, but their rankings differed. The teams that tied -- Cardinals and Patriots, Jets and Broncos -- had the same average ages to at least 13 decimal points.
  • NFC West starters tended to be quite a bit younger relative to the rest of the league, ranking between 12th-oldest (Cardinals offense and 49ers defense) to 24th-oldest (Rams offense). The Seahawks ranked 22nd on defense and 23rd on offense. Seattle's offensive age ranking reflected Steve Vallos at center and Sean Locklear at left tackle. The Seahawks' offensive line would be the youngest in the league with those players in those spots.
  • The 49ers and Seahawks would lead the division in starters younger than 26, with eight apiece. The Seahawks would lead the division in starters 30 or older with six, right at the league average. The Cardinals and 49ers would have five, the Rams four.
  • The Seahawks, with 11 defensive linemen, were the only team in the league with more than 10. The Rams were one of five teams with 10.
  • The Cardinals were one of five teams with seven receivers. No other teams had more than six.
  • The Rams were one of six teams with 10 offensive linemen, the highest number in the league. The Patriots and all four NFC East teams also had 10.
  • Seven teams were carrying only two quarterbacks. All four NFC West teams had three. The Jets and Chiefs had four.
  • The Cardinals had 27 offensive players, two more than average and one behind Oakland's league-high 28. The 49ers were tied for the league lead with 27 defensive players, one more than the Rams. The Seahawks balanced at 25 offensive players, 25 defensive players and three specialists -- right on the league averages.
  • The 49ers were one of three teams with fewer than seven combined running backs and tight ends. That will change. There's no way a power running team is going to remain light on depth at those positions.
  • The 49ers had 33 of their own draft choices on their roster, tied with the Panthers and Colts for second-most in the league behind the Packers (37). The Seahawks (29), Cardinals (27) and Rams (24) had fewer. Every one of the Seahawks' 29 came from BCS-eligible programs. The Jets and Patriots were the only other teams with zero of their own draft choices on the roster from sub-BCS programs. The Cardinals had five, trailing only the Titans (7) and Jaguars (6).

With so many things to track, it's easy to see why the highlight of my weekend was seeing 53s across the board after updating rosters. At one point Sunday, there were 800 offensive players, 800 defensive players and 96 specialists, an average of 25, 25 and three. So heartwarming.

Chat wrap: Rams' investment in Jason Brown

September, 3, 2009
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Thanks to those who kept the latest NFC West chat moving. Not many questions about the 49ers' first-round draft choice. What's his name again? No wonder offensive coordinator Jimmy Raye hopes to run the ball 104 percent of the time (or was it only 60 percent?). Full chat transcript here. Highlights below:

Kenny (Seattle): Mike, with Chris Spencer going down do you think Steve Vallos will be able to hold the interior line together, because he was a late round pick and only has a little experience from last year.

Mike Sando: Steve Vallos has a little Robbie Tobeck in him. I like his chances over the long term even though he'll lose some one-on-one battles physically, as Tobeck also would. Chris Spencer is a different caliber of athlete, but I think Vallos could develop into an effective member of a promising young interior on that line.

James (Kansas): From what you have seen so far ... Was Jason Brown's worth the money that StL gave him in the offseason? His contract is pretty HUGE!!!St

Mike Sando: It's ridiculously early to make a judgment there. The money spent for Brown reflects a broader philosophy. The Rams were very weak at center, affecting investments at both guard spots and at quarterback and at running back. Steve Spagnuolo wanted to get bigger and more physical up the middle on both sides of the ball. Brown is a big part of that philosophy. He might never justify that investment based purely on what he contributes individually as a blocker. The Rams signed him to be more than that. From what I saw at camp, Brown seems to have a winning personality and good leadership potential. Those things also appeal to the Rams as they rebuild.

Scott Allen (raisingzona.com) (Arizona): Sando, do you think the Cardinals struggles in the preseason will carry over any to the regular season, given the coordinator changes?

Mike Sando: The coordinator changes should not be the reason for issues early in the season. Defensive coordinator Bill Davis was on the previous staff. He knows the personnel. There's no excuse for a huge adjustment period there. On offense, Todd Haley will be missed. I think he knew how to challenge players. But Ken Whisenhunt and Russ Grimm were the top two offensive coaches when the Cardinals hired this staff. That means there's no excuse for a huge adjustment period. Whisenhunt even called the plays previously.


Chris (Danville, Ca): Sando--is Shaun Hill just the quarterback passing time while Alex Smith either rises, or Nate Davis rises, oe a quarterback is picked at the beginning of the draft? It seems like Hill has no potential, just will allow the 9ers to give Singletary a decent first full season as head coach.

Mike Sando: I tend to agree with your general take on the situation. The 49ers also tend to agree. Otherwise they would have named Hill their starter right after the season. This is a team that named Mike Singletary its head coach without considering other candidates just because the 49ers felt they knew he was the right guy. They've given Smith every chance to beat out Hill, and Singletary has not seemed overly enthused by the play at QB.



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Quick note on Seahawks roster moves

September, 2, 2009
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The Seahawks placed center Cory Withrow on injured reserve and signed rookie free-agent safety Nate Ness, formerly of the Jets.

Adam Caplan of Scout.com has the report. He refers to the Seahawks' lack of depth on the interior of their offensive line, but I think that's a relative thing. The depth becomes less of a problem as rosters shrink from 80 to 75 to eventually 53 players.

Chris Spencer is injured, but Max Unger, Steve Vallos, Rob Sims, Mansfield Wrotto and Brian De La Puente are all interior players. Tackles Sean Locklear and Ray Willis have experience at guard, although moving them there would leave the team without tackles -- which points to the more serious depth concern for Seattle until Walter Jones returns.

Roided-out NFC West rosters: Updated

September, 1, 2009
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Average ages for starting NFC West offensive lines

Pos. ARI SF STL SEA NFL Avg.
LT 30.6 25.0 26.9 28.2 27.9
LG 28.8 30.0 28.5 25.7 28.2
C 25.4 29.5 26.3 25.6 29.6
RG 26.3 23.4 26.1 23.3 28.3
RT 25.4 27.5 29.0 27.0 27.4
Avg

27.3 27.1 27.4 26.0 28.3
NFL Rank

24 26 23 32 75.9

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The mandatory reduction to 75 or fewer players provides a good opportunity to make available for download updated 26-column NFC West rosters. The Rams and 49ers each have one open roster spot for the time being.

The Seahawks suddenly have the youngest projected starting offensive line in the league without Walter Jones, Mike Wahle and Chris Spencer. Jones could return for the regular-season opener. But with Ray Willis, Max Unger, Steve Vallos, Rob Sims and Sean Locklear in the lineup, the Seahawks' starting line averages only 26.0 years old.

The Cowboys' starting line averages 31.6 years, oldest in the league based on my projected starters. I will need to tweak other lineups across the league as more information becomes available. Right now, though, this is what I've got. Note: I calculate ages to the day, differentiating a player who turned 29 yesterday from, say, a player who turns 30 tomorrow.

Note: Alternative download link here.

First-half snap counts for Seahawks' offense

August, 30, 2009
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Seahawks Offensive Player vs. KC
Pos. 1st Qtr. Snaps 2nd Qtr. Snaps Total
Matt Hasselbeck
QB 11 23
34
Sean Locklear
LT 11
23
34
Rob Sims
LG 11
23
34
Steve Vallos
C 11
23
34
Max Unger
RG 11
23
34
Ray Willis RT 11 23 34
Nate Burleson
WR 11 22
33
John Carlson
TE 9 21
30
T.J. Houshmandzadeh
WR 11 19 30
Julius Jones
RB 11 17 28
Deion Branch
WR
4
12 16
John Owens
TE 4 8 12
Justin Griffith
FB 1 8 9
Justin Forsett
RB 0 6 6
Owen Schmitt
FB 3 0 3
Deon Butler
WR 1 1 2
Courtney Taylor WR 0 1 1

So much for featuring Deion Branch in the passing game.

The Seahawks went with heavier personnel early in their exhibition game against the Chiefs, giving as many first-quarter snaps to John Owens, the second tight end, as they gave to Branch.

What does it mean? Not necessarily much. As Dave Wyman noted via Seahawks play-by-play man Steve Raible, Branch is expected to be part of the 53-man roster.

The snaps at fullback seemed telling. Owen Schmitt has been listed as the starter, but veteran Justin Griffith drew three times as many snaps in the first half (9 to 3). That included an 8-0 snaps advantage in the second quarter.

I thought the running game was better with Griffith, although three snaps for Schmitt was hardly enough for definitive analysis.

Also worth noting: Courtney Taylor, not Ben Obomanu, was one of five receivers to work with the starters in the first half. Fourth receiver Deon Butler played only two first-half snaps, a reflection of the Seahawks' run-oriented personnel groupings. That is also how the second tight end, Owens, pulled only four fewer snaps than the third receiver.

Mike Holmgren is no longer running the offense, in other words. This is Greg Knapp's show.

Spencer's injury could alter Seahawks career

August, 24, 2009
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Spencer
Seahawks center Chris Spencer is entering the final year of his rookie contract, a pivotal season for a player who has not yet lived up to his first-round draft selection pedigree.

The injury Spencer suffered Saturday night -- a muscle tear in his left thigh that could sideline him for the first couple regular-season games, coach Jim Mora told KJR radio in Seattle -- comes at a critical time for Spencer. Every game he misses sets up Max Unger or Steve Vallos to step into the lineup and take firm grasp of the job for this season and years to come.

Injuries are the fastest way out of a job in the NFL. Spencer has missed only five games over the last three seasons, but he has battled injuries regularly. A sprained ankle sidelined him through part of this camp. Back and shoulder injuries have sidelined him for long stretches in previous offseasons.

Spencer has generally played well enough to start, but Unger's selection in the second round and his quick development put pressure on Spencer this season. Unger has a good chance to start at center or right guard early in his career, if not right away.

Update: Danny O'Neil of the Seattle Times calls the injury a second-degree tear of the left quadriceps, noting that Spencer could miss 4-6 weeks.

Observations from Seahawks' exhibition game

August, 23, 2009
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SEATTLE -- Thoughts and observations at halftime of the Seahawks' exhibition game against the Broncos on Saturday night:

  • Matt Hasselbeck survived his first hit. And a few more after that. Seattle's quarterback hadn't taken punishment since suffering back trouble last season. The Broncos hit him in the back more than once. Hasselbeck appeared to be OK and he finished the half with a 120.0 rating despite three sacks.
  • Walter Jones is badly missed. The Broncos aren't the most dynamic pass rushing team around, but they're getting to Hasselbeck. Left tackle Sean Locklear, subbing for the injured Jones, has had significant problems so far. Kenny Peterson drove Locklear into Hasselbeck for one sack. Locklear has a penalty for a false start. He got away with holding on a screen pass. Elvis Dumervil also got pressure on Hasselbeck through Locklear.
  • Deon Butler looks good. There has never been doubt about the rookie's status as one of the Seahawks' top four receivers this season. The team thinks the third-round choice from Penn State can provide a speed element that has been lacking on the outside. Butler showed that speed on the Seahawks' first drive, catching a 34-yard touchdown pass from Hasselbeck. Butler made another catch over the middle to convert on third down.
  • Hasselbeck, 'Housh' warming up: Hasselbeck just missed connecting with T.J. Houshmandzadeh in the end zone on a long pass. He found Houshmandzadeh for a short touchdown pass right before halftime. Houshmandzadeh averaged only 8.2 yards per catch in the half, but his catches were important ones.
  • Screen game revived. The Seahawks' long-lost screen game is showing signs of life. Hasselbeck found running back Justin Forsett for a 30-yard gain on a screen.
  • Chris Spencer still is not durable. The Seahawks' center left the game after suffering an injury to his left quadriceps. No word yet on severity, but Spencer's health remains a big question mark. With Max Unger and Steve Vallos around, the Seahawks have other options at the position.
  • Pass rush non-existent. Denver's Kyle Orton dropped back 23 times without taking a sack against the Seahawks' first-team defense. Patrick Kerney had no tackles and his name did not appear on the defensive stat sheet.
I'll be watching the Chargers-Cardinals and Raiders-49ers games on NFL Network replays. Might also file more notes from this Broncos-Seahawks game, as warranted.

Numbers games: Seahawks roster in perspective

August, 19, 2009
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The Seahawks have a few tough decisions to make before reducing their roster to 53 players in less than three weeks.

The final spot or two at receiver remain unsettled. I see at least 10 defensive linemen worth keeping, but perhaps no more than eight offensive linemen. The final spots at all three general positions on defense -- line, linebackers and secondary -- could spur debate.

The Seahawks aren't even certain which kicker will earn a roster spot, opening possible trade scenarios for teams with needs at the position.

Seattle Seahawks
Week 1 Roster
Counts since 2003
QB RB WR TE OL DL LB DB ST
Fewest 2 5 4
3 8 8 6 7 3
Most 3 6 7 4 9 10 8 8 4
Average 2.8 5.3 5.3 3.2 8.8 9.3 7.0 7.8 3.2
Currently on roster
4
8 10 5 14 13 9 13 4

The chart provides a framework for how many players the Seahawks might keep at each position heading into the regular-season opener against the Rams.

Here's a quick look at which Seahawks players I might keep on the cutdown to 53 players:


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