NFL Nation: Favre retires 2010

Twenty-four hours later, we are back where we started. (Well, almost. Brett Favre is probably going to have some extra coin in his pocket when it's all said and done.)

Favre is going to be the Minnesota Vikings' quarterback this season as long as his surgically repaired ankle feels up to it. That's no different than anything we've discussed over the past few months. He'll get an update on his progress next week from orthopedic surgeon Dr. James Andrews, and a favorable evaluation would put him on track to report to Minnesota the following week -- which, coincidentally, is when the team will break training camp and return to its home practice facility in Eden Prairie, Minn.

Isn't that what we've always thought?

Look, I am very certain that Favre sent text messages to teammates earlier this week suggesting that his ankle wasn't at the point where he would feel comfortable playing. He did the same thing last summer as he recovered from arm surgery, and that's why I cautioned everyone against drawing any final conclusions from it. Newsflash: Favre's decision making process is unique and it changes minute-to-minute.

We had some fun in the interim. Obviously, there are no guarantees that Favre will play. If nothing else, this episode was a reminder of the tightrope the Vikings agreed to walk when they stood pat at quarterback this offseason. I think they made a pretty decent bet, but they had to go all in to do it.

They're squirming a bit, as we suggested they might. They haven't gotten an "absolutely, yes" and the start of the regular season is a month away. Now I think we can all agree that no matter what the Vikings might say publicly, they realize the fate of their 2010 season depends on Favre's health (and relatively timely) return.

That's why it took only 24 hours after the latest barrage of text messages for the Vikings to offer him a nearly 20 percent raise for 2010, with incentives that could make it a 35 percent raise. If they were as comfortable with Tarvaris Jackson as they claim to be, they wouldn't be so quick to open the vault.

You can believe what you want about the events of the past few days, but in the end this is all part of the deal you make when you decide you want Brett Favre, circa 2010, to be your starting quarterback. It all happened, and it all leads to the same conclusion: The odds remain strongly in favor of Favre returning to Minnesota for the 2010 season.

Brett Favre will play if healthy

August, 4, 2010
Brett Favre told ESPN's Ed Werder that he has not made any decision about returning for the 2010 season and says he will play if healthy.

Favre denied that he has sent text messages to any Vikings personnel saying he is retiring.

Asked if money was a factor, Favre said this is not about money.

We’ve tapped into a number of statistical services in recent years, and two of them are offering us interesting takes on the impact of quarterback Brett Favre's career decision on the Minnesota Vikings. I’m not coming off my take that Favre will eventually return to Minnesota, but these numbers help explain exactly why there was so much hubbub about his plans.

AccuScore, which uses digital profiles of players and coaches to run 10,000 simulated seasons at a time, gives the Vikings a 91 percent chance of making the playoffs if Favre is their quarterback in 2010. Without him, they put the Vikings’ playoffs chances at 53 percent. See the chart below:

Just as interesting, especially from a fantasy standpoint, is AccuScore’s projections for the Vikings’ top three receivers if someone other than Favre is throwing to them this season. Below are their findings:

The biggest statistical reason for the slip is erstwhile starter Tarvaris Jackson’s relatively low career completion percentage of 58.7 AccuScore projects Jackson’s 16-game completion percentage in 2010 at 56.6.

Bill Barnwell of Football Outsiders took on a similar task as part of an ESPN Insider column. You’ll need a subscription to read all of what Barnwell wrote, but I can tell you he projects Jackson with a 60.9 completion percentage.

As always, I caution you to remember that these are statistical projections. At the same time, however, they are based on the totality of each player’s career history. Players can always divert and/or improve from their past, but it would be just that: A change of course. So take it for what you will, and carry on.
If Brett Favre's retirement sticks -- and I’ve got Nov. 5 in the pool for his return date -- then Peyton Manning will know exactly how far off some all-time NFL quarterbacking records are.

Mike Chappell looks at the numbers and projects the dates Manning could pass Favre in some major categories.

Can Manning throw 1,851 more completions for 19,201 yards and 131 more touchdown passes? Can he start 93 more consecutive games and win 50 more games?

At his current pace, Manning will hit all of those by the 14th game of 2015.

Hard to fathom. Fun to watch. Interesting to ponder.

But, as I said, once Favre comes back, moot, as we’ll need to readjust the numbers.

Jets not misty-eyed over Brett Favre

August, 3, 2010
On the blog, Rich Cimini posted an insightful take of Brett Favre's season with the New York Jets.

The Minneapolis Star Tribune reported Tuesday morning Favre informed the Minnesota Vikings front office he would retire. Cimini shared the bulletin with one unnamed Jets veteran who rolled his eyes.

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Joe Robbins/Getty ImagesBrett Favre passed for 22 touchdowns as well as 22 interceptions in his one season with the Jets.
Favre retired from the Jets once, too.

"That's [bull], stringing them along this far," the player replied.

Cimni writes:
A couple of players genuinely like Favre, guys like Kellen Clemens and Dustin Keller, but most of them have tried to expunge the legendary quarterback from their memory banks. At the team's training complex in Florham Park, N.J., it's like he never played for the Jets, with a nary of photo or mention of him in the trophy cases or on the walls.

Owner Woody Johnson and GM Mike Tannenbaum still speak reverently of Favre, but the same feeling doesn't exist around the locker room. No doubt, some players were thinking "Boy Who Cried Wolf" when they heard the latest out of Minneapolis.

Favre looked like a hero for the Jets, stoking Super Bowl dreams with an entertaining 8-3 start. Miami Dolphins coach Tony Sparano recalled a vintage Favre play on opening day, avoiding a sack to heave a miraculous fourth-down touchdown pass that proved the difference.

Dogged by a nagging arm injury, Favre's magic disappeared down the homestretch. The Jets went from fashionable Super Bowl picks to out of the playoffs under a heap of interceptions. They went 1-4 in their final five games. In that span, Favre threw two touchdown passes and nine interceptions to finish with a league-leading 22 picks.

Rex Ryan arrived as Jets head coach the season after Favre left. He hopes they don't cross paths when the Jets are scheduled to host the Vikings in October.

"If he's not playing in Week 5, I'll be happy as heck," Ryan said. "If he's playing in Week 5, I'll be scared ... maybe not scared, but close to being scared.

"The guy's a tremendous player. Obviously, you love seeing great players play. I hope, if he's healthy, he still plays. He makes the game exciting to watch."
GEORGETOWN, Ky. -- Cincinnati Bengals assistant coach Jim Anderson remembers that September day in 1992 vividly.

Anderson watched from the sidelines as the Bengals were in control against the Green Bay Packers, leading 20-10 in the fourth quarter during a game at Lambeau Field. Cincinnati's defense played well and even knocked Packers starting quarterback Don Majkowski out of the game.

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Bruce Dierdorff /Getty ImagesIn just his second game in a Packers uniform, Brett Favre replaced an injured Don Majkowski and led Green Bay to a come-from-behind victory over Cincinnati.
Enter an unknown backup name Brett Favre -- and the rest was history.

Favre struggled early but had enough magic to earn his first NFL come-from-behind victory, throwing two touchdowns late in the final period to help the Packers topple the Bengals, 24-23.

Consider it the start of the Favre legend.

"I'll never forget it," said Anderson, who coaches Bengals running backs. "We were playing Cover 2, and the next thing you know, it was big plays and they came back and won the game. We turned the ball over at a crucial time and that was it.

"He just seized the moment, and that's what great players do."

Favre went on to have a stellar career in Green Bay, which included a Super Bowl title and another Super Bowl appearance. He also played for the New York Jets and Minnesota Vikings before reportedly considering retirement Tuesday.

There is still debate in NFL circles whether this is it for Brett Favre. But either way, the Bengals will always have an unique tie-in with the future Hall of Fame quarterback.

Brett Favre's retirement: What a drag!

August, 3, 2010
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FLAGSTAFF, Ariz. -- There had to be a way for the NFC West blog to siphon off some Brett Favre-related traffic on its way North.

This is it: While every NFC West team played the Favre-led Minnesota Vikings last season, the Arizona Cardinals are the only team from the division with a potential 2010 rematch on the schedule. The Cardinals visit Minnesota on Nov. 7, a matchup born of an NFL scheduling rotation pitting 2009 NFC West and NFC North champions against one another.

The Cardinals were the only NFC West team to solve Favre last season. They dominated most of the way during a 30-17 victory.
Minnesota Vikings coach Brad Childress held a longer-than-usual post-practice meeting Tuesday with players, and Tom Pelissero of suggests that Childress instructed players on what to say -- and what not to say -- about Brett Favre's possible retirement.

Most players claimed to know nothing, so thank goodness for tight end Visanthe Shiancoe -- who offered a raw and honest assessment of the situation during an appearance on ESPN Radio .

First of all, Shiancoe said: "What I'm hearing is that it is true, that he did decide to retire. But until I hear it from his mouth, I'm going to leave it at that."

Shiancoe also made no attempt to carry the company line on how Favre's retirement might -- or might not -- impact the Vikings' season.

"It's something the team doesn't want to hear," Shiancoe said. "I'm going to be real with you. It would be a blow to the team. But at the same time, if this [is] his decision, it's something that we're going to accept and something that we're going to back him on it, because I'm sure there would be strong reasons."

Shiancoe admitted that all the clues "told me that it was going to be a repeat of last year when it came to the personnel. I thought he would come back."

Be sure to give the entire podcast a listen.

FavreWatch: Theories abound

August, 3, 2010
OK, the prevailing theory on this blog -- and, apparently, around the NFC North -- is that Brett Favre will put on a Minnesota Vikings jersey at some point this year. All of this is uncharted territory, of course. But as long as we're just talking among friends, let's address some of the early theories making the rounds:

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AP Photo/Andy KingHas Brett Favre really thrown his last NFL pass?
"It's always about money"
That's what David Canter, a well-known player agent, tweeted earlier today. Canter added: "He knows that Vikes are desperate. No doubt they'll sweeten the pot and he'll break the bank. Uncapped year. 20mil." Indeed, the Vikings wouldn't be an encumbered by any salary cap if they want to give Favre more than the $13 million he is scheduled to receive. We don't have any reason to think Favre simply wants more money, but he has more leverage than any player in the NFL right now. He also has an owner who never shuts off the money spigot when it comes to player salaries. Why not take advantage? Chances of reality: 50 percent.

The ankle is worse than he thought
When is the last time a quarterback threw with his foot? I just don't buy that as a legitimate reason why Favre wouldn't play this season. It might well be the reason Favre isn't in training camp now, but I can't see it as more than a secondary issue. Chances of reality: 30 percent

He's a drama queen
It's an interesting thought, especially when you consider the possibility of Favre eventually riding back into town as the savior of a team that struggled through the preseason or started the regular season, say, 1-2. Remember, the Vikings' bye week comes in Week 4. Perfect. Chances of reality: 60 percent.

Feel free to add your theory in the comments section below.
Perhaps more than any team aside from the Minnesota Vikings, the New Orleans Saints are tracking the Brett Favre story very closely.

That’s largely because the Saints are scheduled to host the Vikings in a season-opening game that will be a rematch of the past season’s NFC Championship Game.

With reports flying that Favre will not return to the Vikings, he obviously became a hot topic when the Saints and the media talked Tuesday.

“I’ll just worry about our team right now," New Orleans coach Sean Payton said when asked for reaction to the reports.

Payton wasn’t biting when asked if he thought if this definitely was the end of Favre’s career.

“Like I said, I listen to the experts and it’s 50-50," Payton said. “He’s a great player and obviously if he’s playing you have to account for his presence on the field and if he’s not, you have to prepare for who’s playing in his place. He’s had a great career and we’ll see.”

Mike Triplett’s got plenty of reaction from New Orleans players here. It sure sounds like the Saints are skeptical that Favre really is done. Given Favre’s recent history of changing his mind, I think this is the only approach the Saints really can take. Until they line up in the Superdome on that opening Thursday night, I don’t think they can afford to rule out the possibility of seeing Favre.

Brooking reacts to Favre news

August, 3, 2010
News of Brett Favre's reported retirement has to come as a pleasant surprise to the Dallas Cowboys. Favre embarrassed the Cowboys' defense in a 34-3 divisional playoff win and angered linebacker Keith Brooking with a late touchdown pass. On Tuesday afternoon, I asked Brooking for his reaction via text:
"Happy for him and his great career! 285 in a row...WOW!! Any palyer that's played a down n the NFL knows how special that is. One of the best of all time!!"

Still, I think fans around the Beast are likely rejoicing today.

Scouts Inc.: The Vikings without Favre

August, 3, 2010
So it seems as though Brett Favre will not be quarterbacking the Minnesota Vikings this season. If Favre does indeed retire, Tarvaris Jackson will be behind center for Minnesota. If Jackson struggles -- which certainly is not farfetched -- the ever inconsistent Sage Rosenfels could make an appearance. But for the sake of this article, let’s assume that Jackson will be the opening day quarterback. How would this change Minnesota’s offense? The answer, in a nutshell, is drastically.

Adrian Peterson
Jason Bridge/US PresswireIf Brett Favre retires, Adrian Peterson again becomes the focus of the Vikings' offense.
The first logical thought is that the onus of the offense will be placed on Adrian Peterson and, to a much lesser extent, rookie running back Toby Gerhart. When you have an amazing football player like Peterson, you use him. He is capable of putting any offense on his back, and on many occasions I have referred to him as the best running back in football. But his offensive line was among the worst run-blocking units in the league last season and the Vikings really haven’t done much to upgrade that personnel up front.

Future Hall of Fame left guard Steve Hutchinson was not himself physically as he was battling an injury, but even at 100 percent Hutchinson is not nearly the player he was in his prime. But a healthy Hutchinson will help open holes for Peterson.

The rest of the line didn’t get it done in 2009 and probably won’t in 2010. Right tackle Phil Loadholt could take a step forward in this capacity in Year 2 of his development and maybe more of a fire will be lit under left tackle Bryant McKinnie, but that also might just be wishful thinking. And, of course, with Favre no longer behind center, every defensive coordinator in the league is going to dedicate his team’s respective resources to shutting down Peterson.

But Peterson could play a little better, too. Of course, his fumbling is well-documented, but it could be corrected. He also didn’t press the hole as he did earlier in his career. Peterson's role as a pass-catcher has been growing as he gains experience in this area of his game. It should take another major step forward as a dump-off receiver for Jackson, especially with pass-catching running back Chester Taylor now in Chicago.

Peterson is very special, and when on his game he will be able to run effectively against nearly any defensive front. But those around him are my concern.

And then there is the passing game. Jackson’s lack of accuracy to all levels and poor feel for reading and manipulating coverages is a massive problem. It’s also a problem that the Vikings did not have when Favre was taking the snaps. Jackson isn’t really built to be a game manager, but that is exactly what he must become. More designed quarterback movement out of the pocket, quick, safe throws, play-action -- these are the things Jackson needs to improve upon (in addition to his overall accuracy and feel for coverages) to keep the chains moving for the Vikings.

Jackson will have weapons -- serious weapons, assuming that wide receiver Sidney Rice’s hip is not a lingering problem. Sure, Favre enhanced what Rice and Percy Harvin bring to the table, but both players also have vast ability. Rice is comparable to Larry Fitzgerald in his ability to use his height and exceptional body control to go up and snatch the football at its highest point. That should make up for some of Jackson’s shortcomings. And Rice can really get downfield. With teams stacking the box to stop Peterson, Rice should see favorable coverage in the intermediate and deep zones. But can Jackson deliver the football to him in these circumstances? I have my doubts.

Harvin is only at the tip of the iceberg in his development. Remember, Harvin was more running back than wide receiver at Florida and should only improve in every facet of playing wideout. His talent is off the charts. Not only is he extremely fast, quick and laterally explosive, but Harvin is well built, strong and runs like a running back with the ball in his hands. I think Harvin can revolutionize the slot position and take it even a level further than what Wes Welker has achieved in New England. But to operate efficiently from the slot, very quick decisions must be made on option routes by both Harvin and Jackson. I have little doubt that Harvin will succeed in this capacity, but again, I have my doubts about Jackson.

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ALLEN PARK, Mich. -- Regular blog readers are no doubt loving the fact that a Brett Favre story has surfaced during my annual trip to Detroit Lions camp for the second consecutive year. But while ignoring my near-constantly ringing cell phone, I stole a few minutes Tuesday afternoon with Lions quarterback Matthew Stafford -- who had an interesting response to initial reports that Favre won't play for the Vikings this season.

"I grew up watching him," Stafford said. "He's unbelievable. I kind of want him to come back because I want to play against him again. He got me twice last year. I want to see if I can get him before he gets out of here."

Stafford, still a relative youngster in the NFL, offered a straight answer to the question. But early reaction around the NFC North has been filled with the same kind of skepticism that we expressed earlier. My colleague Jeff Dickerson checked in with this reaction from Bears linebacker Lance Briggs and tight end Desmond Clark:
Briggs: "I won't believe it until I see Tarvaris Jackson starting against us. If he's starting, we'll go from there. Either way, we still got a job to do."

Clark: "Right now, I don't believe any news that comes out about Favre until it's made official. If he does retire, Minnesota is still a good team. Of course, they're better with Brett Favre, but you look at all the parts they have there, they could still be a championship team without Brett Favre. They have a great running game. Their receivers stepped up last year, especially Sidney Rice. You look at their defense, they still have all the parts. They still may be looked at as the favorites in the conference without Brett Favre. I don't think it drops them down the rung too much."

In Green Bay, linebacker Nick Barnett said: (via Chris Jenkins of the Associated Press: "It's like believing in Santa Claus. You get gifts, but you ain't seen Santa Claus. So we don't know."

Barnett added (via the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel): "We were going to do the same thing without him coming back or not. But do I believe it? I don't even know if I care enough to believe it or not to be honest. It's his career, he's got to do what he's got to do. But it doesn't change nothing for us. We're going to have the same goal whether it's Tarvaris, Jeffrey Dahmer or Norman Bates quarterbacking. We're still trying to do the same thing."

I can't imagine why he would think that.
Here is one thing I think we can conclude from Monday's reports that Brett Favre won't play in 2010: The Minnesota Vikings really did take a blind leap of faith by standing pat this offseason at the quarterback position. I always assumed they had some kind of handshake agreement to report sometime in mid-August, but it's now clear that the Vikings were just like the rest of us in assuming that Favre would eventually come around and play another season.

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Bruce Kluckhohn/US PresswireIn line to take over for Brett Favre, Tarvaris Jackson attempted just 21 passes last season.
Vikings coach Brad Childress said Tuesday afternoon that Favre hadn't told him he planned to retire and called the decision "fluid." So all bets are off right now. It's clear the Vikings are going to fight until the end.


They have no choice.

As we noted last month, the Vikings put themselves in position to walk a dangerous tightrope with Favre, leaving their 2010 fortunes in the hands of a man who might not have been as predictable as they thought. They refused to enter the bidding for a very available Donovan McNabb, did not draft a quarterback who will be ready to play anytime soon and crafted a backup plan that called for them to start the quarterback whose slow development necessitated Favre's arrival in the first place.

As we discussed a few minutes ago, I consider the Vikings to be walking the tightrope in the present tense. It's silly to consider this story done.

Even if it is, I won't change my predicted order of finish in the NFC North:
1. Green Bay Packers
2. Minnesota Vikings
3. Chicago Bears
4. Detroit Lions

What I will say, however, is that if Favre does in fact retire, the Vikings will have been grossly negligent for placing so much of their faith in him without a better alternative. I think they will be the second-best team in the division with Tarvaris Jackson, but I wouldn't call them a lock for the playoffs. Don't forget that it was Gus Frerotte, not Jackson, who put the Vikings in playoff position two years ago by winning eight of his 11 starts.

Jackson reclaimed his starting job at the end of that season but succumbed to the pressure of a wild-card playoff game against the Philadelphia Eagles.

Even if he has matured and developed since then, nothing about Jackson's four-year career suggests he's ready to take over a playoff-caliber team and take it to the Super Bowl. And let's not even discuss Sage Rosenfels, who has had such a rough training camp that the Vikings might have had a hard time trading him if and when Favre returned.

So a Favre retirement would leave the Vikings right where they were two years ago, with a talented veteran team missing a quarterback that can take it to the Super Bowl. Actually, they would be worse off. All of the talented veteran players are two years older. And there hasn't been a Super Bowl yet.

Now you know why Childress considers the situation fluid. The alternative isn't pretty.



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