Your take! Readers' Pac-12 top-25 lists


We did a top-25 Pac-12 players list, and then asked you to provide your own.

The response was strong. Both in numbers of entries and the overall quality. A few of you listed mostly guys from your favorite team. One guy took the time to type out Matt Barkley 25 times.

I couldn't publish them all, of course. Further, I didn't consider ones that listed 25 guys with no explanation -- YOU DIDN'T FOLLOW DIRECTIONS! -- and I didn't include ones that just said "switch these two players, drop Reggie Dunn and your list would be perfect."

I also have a celebrity contribution, the last one, that I found pretty interesting.

Couple of general thoughts:

Once again, here's our list.

No. 1: Marcus Mariota, QB, Oregon

No. 2: Will Sutton, DT, Arizona State

No. 3: Marqise Lee, WR, USC

No. 4: Matt Scott, QB, Arizona

No. 5: Ka'Deem Carey, RB, Arizona

No. 6: Kenjon Barner, RB, Oregon

No. 7: Johnathan Franklin, RB, UCLA

No. 8: Stepfan Taylor, RB, Stanford

No. 9: Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah

No. 10: Markus Wheaton, WR, Oregon State

No. 11: Anthony Barr, LB, UCLA

No. 12: Jordan Poyer, CB, Oregon State

No. 13: Zach Ertz, TE, Stanford

No. 14: Matt Barkley, QB, USC

No. 15: Brett Hundley, QB, UCLA

No. 16: Trent Murphy, OLB, Stanford

No. 17: Chase Thomas, OLB, Stanford

No. 18: Ifo Ekpre-Olomu, CB, Oregon

No. 19: David Yankey, OL, Stanford

No. 20: Dion Jordan, DE/OLB, Oregon

No. 21: Scott Crichton, DE, Oregon State

No. 22: Ed Reynolds, S, Stanford

No. 23: Michael Clay, LB, Oregon

No. 24: Taylor Kelly, QB, Arizona State

No. 25: Reggie Dunn, KR, Utah

Here are some of your thoughts.

Braxton from Fargo, N.D.:

1. Marqise Lee, WR, USC

2. Marcus Mariota, QB, Oregon

3. Ka'Deem Carey, RB, Arizona

4. Will Sutton, DT, Arizona State

5. Kenjon Barner, RB, Oregon

6. Jonathan Franklin, RB, UCLA

7. Matt Scott, QB, Arizona

8. Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah

9. Anthony Barr, LB, UCLA

10. Stepfan Taylor, RB, Stanford

11. Jordan Poyer, CB, Oregon State

12. Zach Ertz, TE, Stanford

13. Austin Seferian-Jenkins, TE, Washington

14. David Yankey, OL, Stanford

15. Trent Murphy, LB, Stanford

16. Matt Barkley, QB, USC

17. Dion Jordan, DE, Oregon

18. Brett Hundley, QB, UCLA

19. Markus Wheaton, WR, Oregon State

20. Ifo Ekpre-Olomu, CB, Oregon

21. Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington

22. Chase Thomas, LB, Stanford

23. Michael Clay, LB, Oregon

24. Ed Reynolds, S, Stanford

25. Bishop Sankey, RB, Washington

First off I do not think a sole kick returner (Reggie Dunn) belongs in a top 25 player list. I would make an exception with De'Anthony Thomas, though he plays a much more vital role in Oregon's offense, than Dunn in Utah's offense. Leaving off Austin Seferian-Jenkins is absurd. If you would take off Seferian-Jenkins off Washington's offense, they would be incredibly one-demensional. Taylor Kelly almost made my list, but I just didn't see enough fire-power in him through the season.

My take: Reasonable list. Added Seferian-Jenkins, Sankey and Trufant -- three Huskies -- and dropped Dunn, Kelly and Crichton. Could be argued.

Pete from Denver:

1. Marqise Lee

2. Will Sutton

3. Marcus Mariota

4. Ka'Deem Carey

5. Kenjon Barner

6. Johnathan Franklin

7. Anthony Barr

8. Jordan Poyer

9. Matt Scott

10. Marcus Wheaton

11. Star Lotuelei

12. Zach Ertz

13. Stepfan Taylor

14. Brett Hundley

15. Chase Thomas

16. Ifo Ekpre-Olomu

17. Trent Murphy

18. David Yankey

19. Scott Crichton

20. Austin Sefaran Jenkins

21. Taylor Kelly

22. Dion Jordan

23. Austin Hill

24. Ed Reynolds

25. Matt Barkley

I added Austin Hill 6th is receiving yards to the list and Austin Sefaran Jenkins who is one of the top 3 TEs in the nation. I took off Micheal Clay since he was inconsistent and injured throughout the year. I also removed Reggie Dunn since he only impacts a couple plays a game and his best games were against weak competition. I move Scott and Barkley down because both were QBs of average teams and it is not fair to give all the credit for wins, but not take the heat for losses.

My take: Pete explains himself well. Clay was a guy who got the nod on our list because of "intangibles." I felt like he was the clear leader of a very good Oregon defense, which is why we tapped him over Kiko Alonso, who is a more physically-talented player. Hill was one of our late cuts, just like Seferian-Jenkins.

Loren from Marina, Calif.:

1.Marquise Lee

2.Will Sutton

3.Marcus Mariota

4.Star Lotulelei

5.Ka'Deem Carey

6.Jonathan Franklin

7.Taylor Kelly

8.Matt Scott

9.Markus Wheaton

10.Kenjon Barner

11. Brett Hundley

12. Ed Reynolds

13. Jordan Poyer

14. Anthony Barr

15. Zach Ertz

16. Stepfan Taylor

17. Ifo Ekpre-Olomu

18. David Yankey

19. Trent Murphy

20. Dion Jordan

21. Kevin Hogan

22. DAT

23. ASJ

24. Austin Hill

25. Scott Crichton

Taylor Kelly beat Matt Scott in every significant category other than yards and won in Tucson. Both were studs. Barner is a (very good) system back but Carey and Franklin had better seasons given their personnel. Ed Reynolds essentially returned five of his six picks for TDs, one of which was the pivotal play in the Pac 12 title game. Pedestrian numbers aside, Kevin Hogan was the most important player of the 2nd half of the season and deserves a spot.ASJ and DAT: IN! The most disappointing player in the country ? Barkley - OUT!

My take: No Chase Thomas? As for Kelly versus Scott: When you say "other than yards," you leave out that it was 70 yards a game. Kelly did have the head-to-head win, but Scott put up big numbers against a tougher schedule, beating Oklahoma State, USC and Washington, while falling just short versus Stanford. Kelly's, and Arizona State's, only victory over a winning team was against the Wildcats. A great win that resonates in-state, sure, but for the totality of the season, I give Scott a clear edge. Of course, he was a senior and Kelly was a sophomore.

Brandtfred from Seattle:

No. 1: Marqise Lee, WR, USC

No. 2: Will Sutton, DT, Arizona State

No. 3: Ka'Deem Carey, RB, Arizona

No. 4: Austin Seferian-Jenkins, TE, Washington

No. 5: Johnathan Franklin, RB, UCLA

No. 6: Matt Scott, QB, ArizonaNo.

No. 7: Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah

No. 8: Zach Ertz, TE, Stanford

No. 9: Stepfan Taylor, RB, StanfordNo.

No. 10: Bishop Sankey, RB, WashingtonNo.

No. 11: Markus Wheaton, WR, Oregon State

No. 12: Anthony Barr, LB, UCLA

No. 13: Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington

No. 14: Jordan Poyer, CB, Oregon State

No. 15: Matt Barkley, QB, USC

No. 16: Brett Hundley, QB, UCLA

No. 17: Trent Murphy, OLB, Stanford

No. 18: Chase Thomas, OLB, Stanford

No. 19: David Yankey, OL, Stanford

No. 20: Scott Crichton, DE, Oregon State

No. 21: Ed Reynolds, S, Stanford

No. 22: Shaq Thompson, S, Washington

No. 23: Taylor Kelly, QB, Arizona State

No. 24: Reggie Dunn, KR, Utah

No. 25: Kevin Hogan, QB, Stanford

Top 25 Entry: I feel that the majority of your list was spot on. I only made a few minor changes and in my humblest opinion, I'm pretty sure I didn't leave off any player of worth. I merely added a 1st round draft pick, a future Mackey Award winner, a phenomenal TRUE freshman defensive player, and a workhorse who's team relied on him more than is fair. As you'll be able to see, every player I took off the list is overrated (their stats will probably be relegated in the near future anyway)

My take: A very Husky-ish list. Not only are their four of them, note which team gets shut out. Forget the names or teams: I don't see a tight end ever being top-five.

Andrew from Thousand Oaks, Calif.:

1)Marqise Lee

2)Will Sutton

3)Marcus Mariota

4)Ka'Deem Carey

5)Kenjon Barner

6)Matt Scott

7)Jordan Poyer

8)Star Lotulelei

9)Stepfan Taylor

10)Jonathan Franklin

11)Anthony Barr

12)Marcus Wheaton

13)David Yankey

14)Trent Murphy

15)Zach Ertz

16)Matt Barkley

17)Brett Hundley

18)Scott Crichton

19)Taylor Kelly

20)Michael Clay

21)Ifo Ekpre-Olomu

22)Morgan Breslin

23)Ed Reynolds

24)Ben Gardner

25)Hroniss Grasu

Obviously these are pretty minor changes. Marqise Lee deserves the top spot after being a unanimous All-American and setting several conference records in the process. I bumped Yankey way up because the Stanford O-line was dominant with him at the helm. I don't buy into the coaches always choosing the best first team performers, so I got rid of Dion Jordan and moved Morgan Breslin in, because you can't ignore the production (13 sacks, 7 more than Jordan). [Editor's note: Breslin had eight more sacks than Jordan.] And while Reggie Dunn's kick returning was valuable, it was not as valuable as Hroniss Grasu's leadership on Oregon's O-line, which paved the way for one of the country's best offenses.

My take: Added Grasu, Gardner, Breslin and dropped Chase Thomas, Reggie Dunn and Dion Jordan. All three you added, Kevin and I talked about. I don't think Breslin is a complete player, at least not yet. Thomas and Jordan played for much better defenses, too. And Jordan is going to be a first-round draft pick. Grasu is a strong candidate for the preseason list.

Orefornian from Tustin, Calif.:

1. Marcus Mariota

2. Will Sutton

3. Ka'Deem Carey

4. Kenjon Baner

5. Star Lotulelei

6. Markus Wheaton

7. Marqise Lee

8. Jonathan Franklin

9. Stepfan Taylor

10. Matt Scott

11. Austin Hill

12. Jordan Poyer

13. Brett Hundley

14. Desmond Trufant

15. Zach Ertz

16. Ifo Ekpre-Olomu

17. Chase Thomas

18. Anthony Barr

19. Dion Jordan

20. Scott Crichton

21. Taylor Kelly

22. Austin Seferian-Jenkins

23. Michael Clay

24. Trent Murphy

25. Brandin Cooks

I humbly submit my top 25 to the Pac 12 Blog. I believe the power in this conference is in the North Division, and I ranked the players accordingly. A 3rd place North Team is even with the South Division winner (See Oregon State winning in the Rose Bowl). I left Barkley off, because he was the leader of the fall of the Trojan Empire. I agree with Hogan being left off because he did not play enough games. It isn't fair to the players who played through all the games, playing through injuries and whatever other maladies they had. I humbly await your criticism and disdain for my list-it is now in your hands, Pac 12 Blog.

My take: A Lee skeptic! Added Hill, Trufant, Seferian-Jenkins and Cooks, dropped Barkley, Dunn, Ed Reynolds and David Yankey. No offensive linemen, not even the Morris Trophy winner? And you do know what Reynolds did when he intercepted the ball -- six times -- right? Cooks had a nice season, though only five touchdowns, but not sure if he's worthy of top-25. He will get considered strongly for preseason list, though.

Rick Neuheisel from Manhattan Beach, Calif.:

1 Marcus Mariota

2 Ka'Deem Carey

3 Marqise Lee

4 Brett Hundley

5 Zach Ertz

6 Kenjon Barner

7 Matt Scott

8 Keenan Allen

9 Jordan Poyer

10 Will Sutton

11 Chase Thomas

12 Johnthan Franklin

13 Stepfan Taylor

14 Marcus Wheaton

15 Anthony Barr

16 Bishop Sankey

17 Taylor Kelly

18 De'Anthony Thomas

19 Seferian-Jenkins

20 Robert Woods

21 Matt Barkley

22 Star Lotulelei

23 Desmond Trufant

24 Scott Crichton

25 Joe Fauria

Top five players clearly MVP'S for respective teams. All will be highly sought after at next level. Barner proved durability,Scott flourished in system (look for him to be next Kaepernick), and Allen has tremendous physical talent. Poyer, Sutton, and Thomas all emotional, physical players. Disrupters! Franklin, Taylor and Wheaton all great leaders who took teams past expectations. Barr is a freak athlete! Easily could have put Dion Jordan here for same reason. Sankey and Kelly came out of nowhere to be respective teams MVP's. Thomas, Sefairin-Jenkins, Woods, Barkley, Lotulelei, and Trufant all would be first round draft choices if opposing coaches were allowed to draft off of other Pac-12 teams. Crichton a relentless pass rusher. Could have named Datone Jones or Morgan Breslin here. Fauria is unusual match up problem. He is open even when covered. Apologies to Ed Reynolds, Ifo Ekpre-Olomu, Austin Hill and Nickel Robey.

My take: Yes, this is the man himself, confirmed via text message. And it's a really interesting list because it's coming from a guy who coached in the conference in 2011.