Pac-12: Haloti Ngata

Pac-12 all-BCS-era team

January, 13, 2014
Jan 13
We're looking back at the BCS era, which lasted from 1998 to 2013, so it made sense to make an all-Pac-12 BCS-era team.

Here's our shot at it. You surely will be outraged over the player from your team who got left out.

With our evaluation, NFL careers came into play with only the offensive linemen because they are so difficult to compare.


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Jeff Lewis/USA TODAY SportsFormer USC QB Matt Leinart, the 2004 Heisman Trophy winner, threw 99 career TD passes.
QB Matt Leinart, USC: Nearly won three national titles. Won 2004 Heisman Trophy and placed third in 2005. Threw 99 career TD passes.

RB Reggie Bush, USC: The 2005 Heisman Trophy winner was one of the most dynamic players in college football history. (Bush returned the Heisman in 2012.)

RB LaMichael James, Oregon: Two-time first-team All-Pac-12, 2010 Doak Walker Award winner and unanimous All-American finished his career ranked second in Pac-12 history in rushing yards (5,082) and TDs (53). Nips other stellar RBs such as Arizona's Ka'Deem Carey, Stanford's Toby Gerhart and USC's LenDale White.

WR Mike Hass, Oregon State: Two-time first-team All-Pac-12 and 2005 Biletnikoff Award winner was the first Pac-12 player to record three consecutive seasons over 1,000 yards receiving. His 3,924 receiving yards ranks third all time in the conference. This, of course, could have been fellow Beaver Brandin Cooks or USC's Marqise Lee, who both also won the Biletnikoff Award.

WR Dwayne Jarrett, USC: A two-time consensus All-American, he set the Pac-12 standard with 41 touchdown receptions.

TE Marcedes Lewis, UCLA: A 2005 consensus All-American and John Mackey Award winner as the nation's best tight end. Caught 21 career TD passes.

OL David Yankey, Stanford: A unanimous All-American in 2013, he was a consensus All-American and Morris Trophy winner as the Pac-12's best offensive lineman in 2012.

OL Sam Baker, USC: A 2006 consensus All-American and three-time first-team All-Pac-12 performer.

OL Ryan Kalil, USC: Won the 2006 Morris Trophy. Two-time first-team All-Pac-12.

OL David DeCastro, Stanford: A unanimous All-American in 2011 and two-time first-team All-Pac-12 performer.

OL Alex Mack, California: A two-time winner of the Morris Trophy as the Pac-12's best offensive lineman (2007 & 2008).

K Kai Forbath, UCLA: Consensus All-American and Lou Groza Award winner in 2009. Made 84.16 percent of his field goals, which is nearly 5 percent better than any other kicker in conference history.


LB Rey Maualuga, USC: Was a consensus All-American and won the Bednarik Award as the nation's top defensive player in 2008. Three-time first-team All-Pac-12.

LB Trent Murphy, Stanford: 2013 consensus All-American and two-time first-team All-Pac-12 performer.

LB Anthony Barr, UCLA: Consensus All-American 2013 and two-time first-team All-Pac-12.

DL Will Sutton, Arizona State: Two-time Pac-12 Defensive Player of the Year and Morris Trophy winner in 2012 and 2013. Consensus All-American in 2012.

DL Haloti Ngata, Oregon: A consensus All-American and Morris Trophy winner in 2005.

DL Rien Long, Washington State: Won the Outland Trophy and was a consensus All-American in 2002.

DL Terrell Suggs, Arizona State: A unanimous All-American in 2002 after setting NCAA single-season record with 24 sacks. Won the Lombardi Trophy. Two-time first-team All-Pac-12.

CB Chris McAlister, Arizona: Unanimous All-American in 1998. Three-time first-team All-Pac-12.

CB Antoine Cason, Arizona: Won the Thorpe Award as the nation's best defensive back in 2007. Two-time first-team All-Pac-12.

S Troy Polamalu, USC: Two-time All-Pac-10 and consensus All-American in 2002.

S Taylor Mays, USC: A three-time All-American, he was a consensus All-American in 2008. Two-time first-team All-Pac-12.

P Bryan Anger, California: A three-time first-team All-Pac-12 selection and two-time Ray Guy semifinalist.

Mailbag: Oregon just a 'system' team?

November, 2, 2012
Happy Friday... this is a big one, eh?

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Leif from San Francisco writes: Ted-I got home from work tonight and went through my nightly ritual of obsessively reading all available media on this Saturday's Oregon @ USC game. Being a Duck fan I am prone to be defensive (rationally or not) about uninformed attacks on the Ducks in general, but especially their style of play. So you can imagine the chagrin that met this little number from Lane Kiffin in the OC Register.
Kiffin then had an interesting take on Oregon’s offense and how certain programs across the country are successful and defined by the system they stick to.

“We run a pro-style system because we believe that helps us go anywhere in the country and give us a chance to recruit the best players in the country, regardless of positions that they’re in,” he said. “That system that they run is a great system. At times, it doesn’t allow them to go recruit nationally certain positions because guys realize the effect it’s going to have on them with their draft status.

“Like I’ve said all along, it’s a phenomenal college system and it’s very hard to defense obviously by the numbers.”

Is this just propaganda, or do you believe this to be true? Does USC really have this edge, or or do they just get players because they are USC?

Ted Miller: There's some substance and bunk to what Kiffin is saying.

Substance in general: USC is USC. It's a traditional brand located in one of the nation's best recruiting hotbeds. That means USC is typically going to get more elite prospects, nationally and locally, than Oregon. It can go after the best guys locally and then cherry pick nationally with its iconic brand. Further, many prospects who are willing to play away from home -- far from home, in fact -- can be wowed by the prospect of playing in Los Angeles.

And, yes, part of USC's sales pitch is its success producing NFL players, which is mostly rooted in it being a traditional power in a recruiting hotbed and not about its schemes.

The Ducks home state doesn't produce very many FBS prospects, which means Oregon is limited to almost exclusively recruiting guys who are willing to play away from home. And, by the way, to recruit nationally, Oregon often has to convince kids to leave warm weather for the drizzly chill of the Northwest. Even LaMichael James, a Texas product, could be provoked into grousing about the weather in Eugene at times.

Substance on "system": Oregon is not going to sign a quarterback like Matt Barkley -- or any other prototypical drop-back passers. Ducks coach Chip Kelly expects his quarterbacks to be athletes who can pose a running threat. So, Kiffin and Kelly are unlikely to go earnestly head-to-head on a quarterback.

That said, if the second-coming of Andrew Luck, an outstanding athlete who just happens to be a drop-back passer, wanted to play for Oregon, Kelly and his extremely large brain could figure out a way to make it work. Kelly isn't married to a scheme. He's married to scoring points in bunches. And winning.

Oregon's track record with the NFL is solid. If you are a skilled and a motivated high school player at any position, you will have a very good opportunity to get to the NFL after playing for Oregon. Even at quarterback.

The same can be said, by the way, for every Pac-12 program. Everybody in the NFL knows we play big boy football out here.

If you are Haloti Ngata and you choose to go to Oregon instead of USC -- or Alabama for that matter -- you still get picked in the first round of the draft and get to become a super-elite player. Why? Because you are Haloti Ngata.

Why have none of Kelly's quarterbacks done well in the NFL? Well, because they were Dennis Dixon, Jeremiah Masoli and Darron Thomas. They had inherent limits to their ability. If I were a betting man, I'd guess that Marcus Mariota is going to have an NFL career. Why? There aren't as many limits to his ability.

The "system" critique of Oregon has lost some legs over the past couple of seasons. For one, you might notice that NFL coaches, such as Bill Belichick, have adopted many elements of Kelly's system.

And, by the way, there's something to be said for this: Probably a third of the NFL would trade their present head coach for Chip Kelly... right the freak now.

Not sure if you liked that last bit, Leif, as much as the paragraphs that preceded it.

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Pac-12 top 25 for 2012: No. 2

August, 30, 2012
Our countdown of the Pac-12's top 25 players in 2012 continues.

Most of this looks back, but, of course, there also is a good dose of projecting forward. A lot of good players, as it happens every year, won't make the preseason list. It is in their hands to make the postseason list.

You can review our 2011 postseason top 25 here.

2. Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah

2011 numbers: Recorded 44 total tackles, with nine coming for a loss. He had 1.5 sacks, a pass break-up, forced fumble and a fumble recovery.

2011 postseason ranking: No. 7

Making the case for Lotulelei: Lotulelei, 6-foot-3, 320 pounds, is not only the best defensive lineman in the Pac-12, he might be the best defensive lineman in the nation. The consensus preseason All-American won the Pac-12's Morris Trophy last year, an award voted on by opposing offensive linemen. He also, of course, was first-team All-Pac-12. But, I know, Pac-12 fans like numbers, and the above numbers -- or numbers for any interior defensive lineman -- won't blow anyone away. So we have to go with what folks think of Lotulelei's chances at the next level. Here's what ESPN draft guru Mel Kiper writes about Lotulelei after ranking him the No. 9 overall NFL draft prospect: "Safest DT in class right now based on consistency. Demands double-teams, clogs up the middle of the field. A great sense for disrupting the run game, with power to bull rush. Explodes off the ball, with great upper-body strength."

Scouts Inc. ranks him sixth overall, giving him a grade of 94, which is the same grade they give the No. 1 prospect, a certain USC QB. In its evaluation, it praises Lotulelei's skills as a run stopper and his "motor." A popular comparison? Former Oregon defensive tackle Haloti Ngata. He has been named to the Bronko Nagurski, Outland Trophy, Lott Trophy and Maxwell Award watch lists.

No. 3: De'Anthony Thomas, RB/WR, Oregon
No. 4: Robert Woods, WR, USC
No. 5: Keith Price, QB, Washington
No. 6: Chase Thomas, LB, Stanford
No. 7: Marquess Wilson, WR, Washington State
No. 8: Keenan Allen, WR, California
No. 9: Marqise Lee, WR, USC
No. 10: T.J. McDonald, S, USC
No. 11: Dion Jordan, OLB/DE, Oregon
No. 12: Stepfan Taylor, RB, Stanford
No. 13: Kenjon Barner, RB, Oregon
No. 14: Nickell Robey, CB, USC
No. 15: John White IV, RB, Utah
No. 16: John Boyett, S, Oregon
No. 17: Jordan Poyer, CB, Oregon State
No. 18: Khaled Holmes, C, USC
No. 19: Cameron Marshall, RB, Arizona State
No. 20: Dion Bailey, LB, USC
No. 21: Shayne Skov, LB, Stanford
No. 22: Curtis McNeal, RB, USC
No. 23: Austin Seferian-Jenkins, TE, Washington
No. 24: Isi Sofele, RB, California
No. 25: Jeff Tuel, QB, Washington State
So I went to my room and I got, the eh, baseball bat. Mikey Mantel model my Old Man give me for Christmas, and I found the Old Man passed out in the bathtub, and I tattooed him. Needless to say, when I came home every day from school after that, the eh, house is lit up like Ebbet's Field.

Pac-12 players on NFL All-Pro Team

January, 25, 2011
The Associated Press has announced its 2010 NFL All-Pro Team, and it includes four former Pac-12 players:

Edit note: The original version of this incorrectly listed OG Logan Mankins as going to Utah instead of Fresno State.

Haloti Ngata, DT, Baltimore (Oregon)
Clay Matthews, OLB, Green Bay (USC)
Nnamdi Asomugha, CB, Oakland (California)
Troy Polamalu, S, Pittsburgh (USC)

Interesting that more than a third of the defense comes from the Pac-12.

Pac-10 presence on All-NFL team

January, 19, 2011
Pro Football Weekly and the Professional Football Writers of America have announced their 2010 All-NFL team, and there's plenty of Pac-10 presence.

Former USC linebacker Clay Matthews was named Defensive MVP, and he led three Pac-10 defenders on the team:

Haloti Ngata, DT, Baltimore (Oregon)
Clay Matthews, LB, Green Bay (USC)
Troy Polamalu, S, Pittsburgh (USC)

Further, an All-Rookie team was announced, and four from the Pac-10 made the team.

LeGarrette Blount, RB, Tampa Bay (Oregon)
Rob Gronkowski, TE, New England (Arizona)
Tyson Alualu, DE, Jacksonville (California)
*T.J. Ward, S, Cleveland (Oregon)

*Ward also was honored for special teams.

It's fair to say that Blount's fortunes have taken a positive turn since Sept. 3, 2009.

Pac-10 and the NFL Pro Bowl

January, 18, 2011
The SEC dominates college football, but the ACC and Pac-10 rock the NFL Pro Bowl.


As my esteemed colleague Heather Dinich pointed out in the ACC blog, the ACC led all conferences for the third consecutive year with 19 players selected to play in the Pro Bowl, which will be held on Jan. 30 at Aloha Stadium in Honolulu, Hawaii. The SEC was second with 13 selections and the Pac-10 was third with 12. The Big Ten and the Big 12 had nine each.

But, of course, seeing that the Pac-10 at present has just 10 teams versus 12 for the ACC, SEC and Big 12, the numbers need to be adjusted for players per team. By that measure, the ACC is still No. 1 with 1.58 Pro Bowl players per ACC team, while the Pac-10 is second with 1.2 per team.

Here's the list of Pac-10 players in the Pro Bowl.

Marcedes Lewis, TE, Jacksonville (UCLA)
Steven Jackson, RB, St. Louis (Oregon State)
DeSean Jackson, WR, Philadelphia (California)
Tony Gonzalez, TE, Atlanta (California)
Ryan Kalil, C, Carolina (USC)
Maurice Jones-Drew, RB, Jaguars (UCLA)*
Haloti Ngata, DT, Baltimore (Oregon)
Terrell Suggs, DE, Baltimore (Arizona State)
Nnamdi Asomugha, CB, Oakland (California)
Troy Polamalu, S, Pittsburgh (USC)
Clay Matthews, LB, Green Bay (USC)
Lance Briggs, LB, Chicago (Arizona)

*Out of game due to injury

You also may have noticed that a Jets-Packers Super Bowl would mean both starting quarterbacks -- Mark Sanchez for the Jets (USC) and Aaron Rodgers for the Packers (California) -- hail from the Pac-10.

Pac-10 All-Decade team

January, 21, 2010
We've already ranked our top-10 Pac-10 players of the decade, but what follows is our All-Decade team.

As usual, feel free to disagree.


QB Matt Leinart, USC

RB Toby Gerhart, Stanford

RB Reggie Bush, USC

WR DeWayne Jarrett, USC

WR Mike Hass, Oregon State

TE Marcedes Lewis, UCLA

C Ryan Kalil, USC

OT Levi Jones, Arizona State

OT Sam Baker, USC

OG Adam Snyder, Oregon

OG Max Unger, Oregon

K Kai Forbath, UCLA


DE Terrell Suggs, Arizona State

DT Haloti Ngata, Oregon

DT Sedrick Ellis, USC

DE Kenechi Udeze, USC

LB Lance Briggs, Arizona

LB Rey Maualuga, USC

LB Keith Rivers, USC

CB Antoine Cason, Arizona

CB Marcus Trufant, Washington State

S Troy Polamalu, USC

S Taylor Mays, USC

P Tom Malone, USC

Top 10 Pac-10 players of the decade

January, 19, 2010
The assignment: Rank the top-10 Pac-10 players of the decade.


The list of folks not on this list includes numerous consensus All-Americans, award winners and record-setting players. So feel free to disagree.

And, yes, NFL success sometimes functioned as a tiebreaker, which is why Reggie Williams, Mike Williams, Rien Long, Dave Ball, J.J. Arrington, Mike Hass, Derek Hagan and Joey Harrington, among others, are not on this list.

Every player on this list, other than Steven Jackson, was a consensus All-American.

10. Troy Polamalu, S, USC: Pete Carroll's first great defensive player, he was a two-time All-American. The 16th overall pick in the 2003 draft and five-time All-Pro is on track for a Hall of Fame NFL career.

Christian Petersen/Getty ImagesUSC quarterback Matt Leinhart led the Trojans to three national championship game appearances.

9. Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona: The four-year starter grabbed 15 career interceptions and won the the Thorpe Award as the nation's best defensive back in 2007. He was the 27th pick (San Diego) of the 2008 draft.

8. Haloti Ngata, DT, Oregon: The 345-pounder was the best run stuffer the Pac-10 has seen of late. He blocked seven kicks at Oregon and piled up 17.5 tackles for a loss his final two seasons before becoming the No. 12 pick in the 2006 draft (Baltimore).

7. Dwayne Jarrett, WR, USC: What separates Jarrett from the conference's other All-American receivers is simple: His 41 career touchdown receptions are nine more than any other player in Pac-10 history.

6. Steven Jackson, RB, Oregon State: Jackson's NFL career has proven that he was ridiculously underrated in college. He finished with 3,625 career rushing yards, which ranks 11th on the Pac-10 career list, and 46 career touchdowns.

5. Toby Gerhart, RB, Stanford: The 2009 Heisman Trophy runnerup finished with 3,522 career yards and 44 touchdowns.

4. Terrell Suggs, DE, Arizona State: In 2002, he set an NCAA record with 24 sacks and Pac-10 record with 31.5 tackles for a loss. He won the Lombardi Trophy as the nation's best defensive lineman and the Nagurski Award as the nation's best defensive player.

3. Reggie Bush, RB, USC: He won the 2005 Heisman Trophy after finishing fifth the year before. He led the nation with 222.3 all-purpose yards per game and set the Pac-10 record for total yards from scrimmage with 513 (294 rushing, 68 receiving, 151 return) against Fresno State. And every time he touched the ball, everyone held their breath.

2. Carson Palmer, QB, USC: He won the 2002 Heisman Trophy and his 11,818 career yards passing is No. 1 all-time in the Pac-10.

1. Matt Leinart, QB, USC: He won consecutive national championships and the 2004 Heisman Trophy. In 2005, he finished third in the Heisman voting and lost the national championship game to Texas. He owns the Pac-10 single-season (38) and career (99) records for touchdown passes.

Pac-10 on All-Decade team

December, 28, 2009
ESPN Rise put together an All-Decade team that it described like this: "Based on high school accomplishment and including performances in college and the NFL."

You can see the offensive and defensive squads here, along with the second- and third-teams.

The Pac-10 players who made the first-team are:


OL Jeff Byers, USC

RB Maurice Jones-Drew, UCLA

ATH Reggie Bush, USC

ATH DeSean Jackson, California


DL Haloti Ngata, Oregon

LB Brian Cushing, USC

Opening the mailbag: Position rankings and talking trash

June, 26, 2009

Posted by's Ted Miller

My wife is piping Buffett throughout the house, trying to distract me from your notes.

Not that I'm claiming there's a woman to blame ...

Kevin from Phoenix writes: I know that nobody is talking about Danny Sullivan for the Sun Devils, but if somebody of note would take a look at this kid, he is a stud. He had an outstanding spring. He has turned into a great leader and motivator for DE's team He has an arm, the size, and the mental tools to be successful this upcoming season for the devils. So where is the love for Sully?

Ted Miller: Kevin, you need to talk to Manny from Scottsdale (see final note).

Sullivan will get love if Arizona State gets back on the winning track, simple as that.

Folks are nervous about him for two reasons: 1. He hasn't seen much action, and when he has it hasn't been terribly impressive; 2. He's not very mobile, and if you haven't noticed the O-line is an issue.

But you are right about his spring. There were lots of rumblings that other guys would overtake him, but Sullivan stepped up and ended that quickly. Erickson, in fact, went out of his way to laud Sullivan's performance.

Of course, as in all things looking ahead: We shall see.

Kenny from Corvallis, Ore., writes: Every year each college team graduates players at positions all over the field, meaning every team in the country has some sort of question marks somewhere (except for Florida this year). But obviously some are more important than others. How would you rank significance of "question marks" of positions? i.e. I would say offensive line is probably most significant, whereas wide receiver is probably the least significant.

Ted Miller: First off: Any of you notice that Kenny gets almost a letter a week? It's because he asks interesting questions.

Second, another mailbag rule: If you repeatedly call me a stupid, SEC-loving redneck who should go back to the south [Yes, SEC fans, I get it from BOTH FREAKING SIDES!], don't expect me to forget and publish your notes/questions a week later.

As for this query ... Quality trumps everything. There's a huge difference between a GOOD starter and just a starter.

Fans often get on pundits for paying too much attention to returning starters, and it's a fair criticism. It's also about all you can go on when you don't have a body of work from which to evaluate new starters.

I'd rate tight end last. But a great tight end -- particularly one who can catch and block -- is one of the best weapons a team can have.

Same with receiver, running back and safety, which are down my list. Unless your safety is Taylor Mays. Or Eric Berry.

I'd always start with experience at quarterback. A close No. 2 would be quality returning starters on the offensive line.

But the O-line is kind of cheating. It's five players.

It's hard to pick between cornerback, defensive end and defensive tackle, though I'd probably go in that order. Unless the DT is Sedrick Ellis or Haloti Ngata.

I rate linebacker lower than most folks would because I've seen so many great college LBs wash out in the NFL because they were protected by schemes that helped them pile up numbers.

So, if quality is a constant, I'd rank it: QB, OL, CB, DE, DT, LB, RB, WR, S, TE.

And, yes, I know there are some defensive coordinators who will tell you I'm cracked about the value of safeties. And, no, I won't turn my back on Mays when I go to USC practices this fall.

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