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November, 23, 2007
11/23/07
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OUT: The following players have been listed as officially out for Week 12 Sunday games.

Steve McNair, QB, Ravens: McNair's left shoulder still is listed as the official reason for him sitting out.

Demetrius Williams, WR, Ravens: An ankle injury will keep Williams out of the lineup this week.

Larry Johnson, RB, Chiefs: We detailed what we know about his injury on Wednesday. You can expect to see him on this list for a while longer.

Ahman Green, RB, Texans: As expected, Green did not practice this week and is not expected to play, according to the Houston Chronicle. Ron Dayne likely will get the start again for the Texans.

Marshawn Lynch, RB, Bills: Lynch has not practiced all week and has been ruled out for this Sunday's game. To make matters worse, the Bills' Web site reports that Lynch has a high ankle sprain. Originally reported as an ankle sprain, Lynch's injury immediately becomes more serious because of the location. High ankle sprains, as we have reported many times, generally are more difficult to recover from and can be easily aggravated if a player returns too soon (see Michael Pittman). We will check back in on Lynch next week. Until he begins to test the ankle in practice, it will be difficult to project his timetable. Anthony Thomas will get the start in Lynch's place.

Brandon Jacobs, RB, Giants: Jacobs is out with a hamstring injury (more information below).

Travis Henry, RB, Broncos: Henry continues to struggle with his left knee (PCL sprain) and did not practice all week. Keep an eye on him as he could return in Week 13, contingent on his knee healing enough and him winning his appeal.

Here's what we know so far about other players with injury concerns heading into Sunday.

Running Backs


Selvin Young, Broncos: Young, who injured his knee in Monday night's game (no specifics given by the team), did not practice until Friday, when he did limited work. According to the Broncos' Web site, Young will test his leg before the game (late start Sunday) to see if he will be able to play. Andre Hall will get the start if Young cannot go Sunday.

Adrian Peterson, Vikings: Peterson (torn LCL) has taken part in very limited practice this week, according to the Minneapolis Star-Tribune, wearing a knee brace all the while. Although he has not been officially ruled out, do not expect him to play this weekend, despite the upgrade to questionable. It sounds as if the Vikings are suggesting he could return very soon, but again, I believe he really needs to show he can do everything in practice before the Vikings risk putting him back on the field (see Wednesday blog).

Brandon Jacobs and Derrick Ward, Giants: Jacobs missed practice all week with a sore hamstring and is out for Sunday. According to a report in Newsday, Jacobs and coach Tom Coughlin gave the impression earlier in the week that Jacobs would miss Sunday's game. The major concern, as it always is with a hamstring injury, is that it could get worse and end up costing Jacobs more missed time overall. With other capable backs in the wings, the Giants are smart to play it cautious. But then there's Ward, who also is currently hampered by lingering injuries. Ward has been dealing with an ankle sprain, which reportedly is much improved, and a groin strain, which he sounds less confident about. Ward's comment -- "You never know. It might regress, it might progress" -- does not exactly evoke optimism. Ward has been a limited participant in practice, and his status may well come down to a game-time decision. Reuben Droughns looks to get the start Sunday, and the Giants' Web site quotes Coughlin as saying that Ahmad Bradshaw is the No. 2.

Reggie Bush, Saints: Bush was limited in practice all week with a shin bruise, but coach Sean Payton is hopeful that Bush can play Sunday, according to a report in the New Orleans Times-Picayune. He will be a game-time decision.

Shaun Alexander, Seahawks: Insert last week's report here. Alexander has not practiced, and if he does not practice, he does not play, according to coach Mike Holmgren. The Tacoma News Tribune reported that Alexander also is trying to get rid of the cast. Apparently that is not going to happen, but the medical staff is trying to find a way to make the cast smaller. Once again, expect Maurice Morris to start in Alexander's place.

Michael Pittman and Earnest Graham, Buccaneers: Pittman, who worked so hard to get back to the playing field, re-injured his still-healing high ankle sprain, perhaps seriously, and is out indefinitely. There has been some speculation that Pittman could be put on injured reserve, but that does not appear to have been decided yet. According to a report in the St. Petersburg Times, Pittman's swelling is severe, but the athletic training staff expects him to make a return in a few weeks. Meanwhile, Graham still is nursing a sore ankle and has been limited in practice this week, but he is expected to play.

Jesse Chatman, Dolphins: The Dolphins most certainly don't need this. Chatman has an ankle problem that limited him in practice the whole week. The Orlando Sun-Sentinel reported Chatman still is limping, which does not help his chances to play Monday night. Granted, there are a few days before the game, but if Chatman is limping now, he will not be at his best come Monday. Could this signal the return of Ricky Williams? It more likely signals some increased action for Patrick Cobbs at this point, but stay tuned to this scenario, because if Chatman's ankle problem lingers, there might be a new starting running back in Miami right around the time of fantasy playoffs.

Quarterbacks


Donovan McNabb, Eagles: McNabb has two problems that kept him out of practice all week: a sprained ankle and a jammed thumb. Coach Andy Reid told the Associated Press that McNabb "has gotten a little better each day." Neither of these injuries appears particularly serious, but they could be just bad enough to either keep McNabb from starting Sunday night, which appears more likely, or keep him from performing effectively if he does play. Either way, with the game being on Sunday night, and the opponent being the Patriots, this probably is one for fantasy owners to avoid.

Receivers/Tight Ends


Santonio Holmes, Steelers: Holmes is recovering from a high ankle sprain and remains doubtful for Monday's game.

T.J. Houshmandzadeh, Bengals: Houshmandzadeh participated in full practice Friday after resting earlier in the week with a bruised back. He is listed as probable and is expected to play. Houshmandzadeh still is feeling soreness in his back and told the Bengals' Web site that if he can't tolerate the pain, he won't play. Given that comment, be sure to check his status before game time, but with the probable designation, it does appear he will be active.

Javon Walker, Broncos: Walker had good practice sessions this week and is looking like he will return Sunday. Walker has made nice, steady progress, and although he is reported to have had some swelling after Thursday's practice, he expects to play, according to the Broncos' Web site. His status is questionable, so be sure to check Sunday's inactive reports before the game.

Reggie Williams, Jaguars: Williams is a late addition to the injury reports with a back problem. He is listed as questionable after being limited in practice Friday. If you have him on your roster, be sure to check before game time.

Todd Heap, Ravens: Hopefully you have found a fantasy replacement for Todd Heap by now. He is listed as doubtful again this week because of the lingering problems with his hamstring. Despite his efforts to return, the hamstring has not cooperated, and there is no telling when his leg will be healthy enough to allow him to come back.

Don't see your player here? Be sure to check back this weekend when we have the latest practice reports before the games, as well as a few IDP additions.



Why waste time with an intro? We all know what (and who) everyone is talking about heading into Week 11.

Running Backs


Adrian Peterson, Vikings: Coach Brad Childress announced on Monday afternoon that Peterson suffered a Grade II+ lateral collateral ligament sprain. And everyone was a bit unsure what to make of it. After all, this is not an ordinary, everyday injury. And Peterson has shown that he is not an ordinary, everyday player. All Day? Certainly. Ordinary? Never. Just ask my friend Merril Hoge, who has been singing his praises since the preseason on the "ESPNEWS Fantasy Insider" show. So what are concerned fantasy owners to make of a not-so-ordinary injury happening to an extraordinary player? Let's break it down.

The LCL is one of the four main stabilizing ligaments of the knee, situated on the outer aspect of the joint, and it runs from the far end of the thigh bone (femur) to the near end of the outer bone of the lower leg (fibula). It is opposite the medial collateral ligament, which occupies the same spot on the inner aspect of the knee joint, running from femur to tibia (larger lower leg bone). The main function of the LCL is to protect the knee from excess bowing outward (also called varus stress), or more simply, it helps control lateral stability. It is injured if a bowing or varus force is applied that exceeds what the ligament can handle, typically as a result of direct contact. Peterson told Minneapolis' Star Tribune that he felt a helmet or a shoulder hit his knee and then felt the pain.

It is far less common to sustain an injury to this ligament than to its counterpart, the MCL. The MCL, injured when the knee is forced inward excessively (valgus stress), has already been a source of pain for several key players this year (Brandon Jacobs, Travis Henry and J.P. Losman). There are a few possible reasons for this. First, it is simply more natural to either sustain a blow to the outer knee or cut toward the inside off a plant leg during sports, the two main mechanisms for MCL injury. It is far less common to sustain a blow to the inner knee, the primary mechanism for pure LCL injury. Second, the MCL sits very flat against the joint, so a minor unnatural stress puts it at risk for injury. The LCL has a little more room to tolerate movement because it does not lie flat against the knee. (Fun with biology: it is not really possible to distinguish the MCL by feel, but if you want to feel your own LCL, cross one ankle over the opposite knee, as if making a figure 4, and you can feel a tight ropy band on the outer knee. It is easier to feel because it is not flat against the joint.)

When the LCL is injured in isolation, as reports say is the case with Peterson, the result is instability in the lateral knee, or a decreased tolerance for bowing (varus) stresses. An even bigger concern would be if additional structures that make up the back outside corner of the knee were damaged simultaneously (not the case with Peterson, supposedly); this could mean significantly increased disability and more potential knee joint problems down the line. In the preseason we talked about grades of ligament injuries with Grade I (mild) representing minor injury or overstretching, Grade II (moderate), the most common, representing incomplete tearing, and Grade III (severe) indicating a complete tear or rupture. A Grade II+ LCL injury translates to extensive, but incomplete, ligament damage. Since a portion of the ligament remains intact, surgery is not necessarily indicated. Rehabilitation involves first letting the bruising and swelling settle while immobilizing the knee to let the ligament scar and prevent further injury. The focus then centers on strengthening the muscles (primarily quadriceps and lateral hip muscles) that can provide stability to the lateral aspect of the knee to help compensate for any laxity (looseness) resulting from the ligament damage.



So, now that you know what the injury is, let's get to the questions you really want answered.

  1. How long will Peterson be out?

    This is a tough one to gauge -- which is why Childress did not give a time frame -- because of the infrequent occurrence of this type of injury. You may have heard Childress' comment at his Monday news conference that if this were a lineman, he could be braced and come back and play the next game. But a lineman and an Adrian Peterson are two different species. One of the main challenges Peterson will face that a lineman would not is the need to make sharp directional movements with speed. Stability is critical in order for that to occur. In fact, I asked three orthopedic surgeons, all of whom have worked with professional athletes, what their expectations are for this type of injury with this type of player. Each of them had concern about Peterson returning too soon after such an injury, and each felt that the timetable was hard to judge (note that this was merely medical opinion; none of them examined Peterson). Lateral knee injuries are, in essence, more complex than medial injuries. Given that there has to be enough time to allow ligament healing (which typically takes up to six weeks), followed by strengthening, it is fair to expect Peterson's return to take several weeks. The biggest concern if Peterson returns too soon is that another incident, or even stress on a still unstable knee, could result in more severe damage, which could then translate to chronic problems. On the other hand, he is young and strong and could heal fairly quickly. His progression of activity will be determined on an ongoing basis, depending upon how his knee looks and feels day to day, again making it hard to project a time frame with any certainty. I know, I know. You want to have some idea of how to plan around this situation. For now, assume Peterson is out two weeks at an absolute minimum, with the stronger likelihood being at least four weeks. Don't be surprised if it takes even longer, in which case the Vikings may decide to shut Peterson down for the season.

  2. How will he be affected when he comes back?

    Peterson will be left with some decreased lateral stability in his knee; the ligament is forever altered based on the extent of his injury. However, his ability to compensate for it with muscular support (and he may wear a protective brace as an additional measure) could allow him to return looking like the same running back. Part of this answer depends on how well-healed his injury is when he returns.

  3. Is he at more risk for injury?

    Probably so, especially on the outer part of that right knee. It doesn't mean that he definitely will reinjure it, simply that it won't be as hard to do a second time. This is true for all incomplete ligament injuries however, so it is not terribly unusual. Again, the bigger concern would be that future stresses to this knee may put other stabilizing structures more at risk.



The bottom line is that if you have Adrian Peterson on your fantasy team, you should secure a backup now that you can plan to utilize indefinitely. There is no way of knowing for sure at this point how long Peterson will be out, or if he'll return at all. This may not be what fantasy owners or Vikings fans want to hear. But we have enjoyed his amazing talent for the first half of this season, and we would like to continue to enjoy it for years to come. Let's root for Peterson to come back healthy, even if it means we all have to wait just a little longer.

Larry Johnson, Chiefs: You can take your best cues from the statement issued by the Chiefs on their official Web site Monday. Johnson was listed as out for Week 11, meaning there was no question that he could not play six days later. This early announcement reflects the relative seriousness of the injury. The statement adds that Johnson's swelling continues to decrease and that he will meet with a foot specialist on Nov. 19. In other words, the swelling may be going down, but he needs another week before the specialist can assess his condition. This suggests that the swelling in Johnson's foot continues to prevent the team from having a definitive picture of the injury. We know these midfoot injuries are delicate, and the risk of doing too much too soon can mean the demise of an athlete. There have been murmurings of Johnson potentially having a broken bone in the foot, but that has not been confirmed by the team. As we said last week, swelling can cloud the images that would identify a fracture, so the swelling must subside before accurate pictures can be taken. Rehab right now for Johnson is no doubt focused on minimizing pain and swelling, so that further assessment of his foot can occur. If, in fact, Johnson does have a broken bone, he could miss up to six weeks (or for all intents and purposes, the remainder of the season). If there is no fracture, his return will hinge primarily on how long it takes for the pain and swelling to subside, followed by the time it takes to regain his strength and speed when running, cutting and pushing off. Assume Johnson misses three to four weeks at a minimum, unless there is a fracture, then up the minimum to six weeks from the time of injury.

Reggie Bush, Saints: The only update since Bush injured his head Sunday is that coach Sean Payton told the New Orleans Times-Picayune that he expects Bush to play this week. Bush's stepfather had indicated after Sunday's game that Bush suffered a concussion. The Saints had Tuesday off and return to practice Wednesday, so we will not know Bush's practice status until a bit later.



Marshawn Lynch, Bills: No word yet on the status of Lynch's left ankle. Initial postgame reports on the Bills' official site indicated that X-rays were negative and although Lynch was scheduled for an MRI, those results have not been made public at the time of this posting. It sounds as if Lynch is dealing with a sprain. We will monitor his practice activity throughout the week.

LenDale White, Titans: According to coach Jeff Fisher's comments on the Titans' official Web site, he expects White to practice this week. Not exactly revealing with regard to the nature of White's knee problem, but it does not make the condition sound particularly serious. White is another one to monitor in practice.

Kevin Jones, Lions: Uh-oh. Jones is having pain in his left foot again, yes, the one that had the surgery following his Lisfranc injury last season, the same one that kept him out the first third of this season. Jones had only four carries in Sunday's game and had pain in his foot that kept him out of the second half, according to ESPN's John Clayton. It is not uncommon for Jones to have some postgame soreness, but the fact that he was so limited Sunday is cause for concern. According to The Detroit News, coach Rod Marinelli will limit Jones in practice in an effort to ensure his availability for this week.

DeShaun Foster, Panthers: According to The Charlotte Observer, coach John Fox listed Foster as one of the injured players from Sunday's game. It appears that Foster aggravated the condition in his big toe that was giving him trouble a few weeks ago. Fox indicated that Foster's status was unclear for this week.

Quarterbacks


Brian Griese, Bears: Griese has what coach Lovie Smith referred to as a left shoulder sprain in his Monday news conference. It does not appear serious.

Vinny Testaverde and David Carr, Panthers: The Rock Hill Herald reports that coach John Fox thinks Carr will be medically cleared to return from his concussion this week. He also stated that Testaverde made it through the Week 10 game "healthy." So who will it be in Week 11? No commitment yet from Fox, so we will watch practice reports to see how things shape up during the week.

Steve McNair, Ravens: This just in. McNair has yet another injury. According to ESPN's John Clayton, McNair has a subluxing left shoulder (meaning it slips slightly out of the joint but doesn't dislocate). No word on when or how this occurred, but the timing is most interesting. Kyle Boller will start this week in his place, officially because McNair is injured, unofficially, well, you have seen the Ravens recently, right?

Wide Receivers/Tight Ends


Isaac Bruce, Rams: Bruce apparently aggravated his hamstring during Sunday's contest against the Saints. The St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports that Bruce may miss a week or two as a result. More catches for Drew Bennett.

James Thrash, Redskins: Although James Thrash was seen on crutches after the game, the Washington Post is reporting that the Redskins say that he sustained a Grade I (mild) high ankle sprain. He is not expected to play this week, but is expected to return in Week 12.

Don't see your player here? Be sure to check back after practice reports when we check in on expected Week 11 returning players Andre Johnson, Laveranues Coles, Deion Branch, David Garrard and many others.

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