Both are living the uncomfortable reality of coping with bodies that seem to be betraying them. That's not good.
Roy talked to the Oregonian's Jason Quick, who came away with the feeling that Roy's health could be a major long-term concern. The knee that's bothering him now is not the one he had surgery on last season, but the other one ... which was operated on in the summer of 2008.
"I would love to play more minutes and have a much better body, but it's just not the case, so I have to try and make the most of what it is. I had a phone call (Monday) and in talking to a few people, it is somewhat of a reality check. This is what it is, and now you have to make the most of it."
Roy said his left knee has bothered him throughout his NBA career. And every year he said it has needed to be drained throughout the season. Now, however, whatever is going on in there appears to be sapping his super powers, and Roy can tell it.
When asked how hard this was to deal with mentally, he didn't hesitate.
"Very. Because I want to play at a high level," Roy said. "If things were different, maybe I could, but they are not."
If you don't believe this is serious stuff, consider this: The Blazers' main plays have been isolation sets designed for Roy to break down his man one-on-one.
This week, the isolation plays were scrapped. Roy hasn't been able to beat his man one-on-one enough to warrant the plays being instilled.
No longer will he receive the ball at the top of the key. Now, many of the plays call for Roy to post low on the block, or get the ball at the "elbow," the corner created where the free throw line meets the key.
It will be something akin to a fastball pitcher losing his zip after arm surgery, and having to learn how to pitch, using change of speeds and location to survive.
Quick also reports that Blazers GM Rich Cho will be taking some scans of Roy's knee with him to Los Angeles, along with injured Blazers Oden and Elliot Williams, when he goes to visit a celebrated orthopedic surgeon.
Coming soon: Some hard decisions about whether or not it makes sense to keep starting Roy as he copes with these knee issues. Other than Roy, the Blazers' starting unit is very speedy. It might be an idea to set them free, while bringing in Roy like a designated hitter.