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| Friday, November 15 Updated: April 5, 4:51 PM ET Comparing Soriano to players from the past By John Sickels Special to ESPN.com |
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The Alfonso Soriano article I wrote earlier this week generated many intriguing e-mail responses. Possibly the most interesting from a sabermetric perspective are these two. I don't have a lot to add to them, but I wanted to share them with you.
The first is from Michael G.: Soriano did not come out at the top of it once you reduced his strikeouts for his era (he came in ninth behind two players I will mention below, Joe Medwick, and some 19th century players). The player who came out on top was Bob Meusel. He not only posted the No. 1 season in points, but he also had the No. 3 season. Those were his first two years in the majors, 1920 and 1921. Take a look:
Those were Soriano-esque seasons for the 1920s. The 72 strikeouts in 1920 were good for fourth in the league, and the 88 strikeouts in 1921 led the league. Meusel's career might give us an idea where Soriano will go from here. The other player who was prominent on the list was Dave Robertson. He occupied the No. 2 and No. 4 places on the list with his seasons in 1916 and 1917. Here are those seasons:
Somewhat high strikeouts for that day, with tiny walk totals. He tied for the league lead in homers both seasons. He didn't exactly have a glorious career after that. Regardless, this could be another possibility for Soriano. Thought you might be interested. Soriano has some company if you adjust for era."
John says: On the other hand, both Meusel and Robertson were outfielders, not infielders. Neither had as much speed as Soriano. Both were good hitters, but neither had extremely long careers. Again, looking at the complete package of talent, they don't really compare that well to Soriano. It should be noted that Meusel was able to cut his strikeouts and increase his walks as his career progressed. It will be interesting to see if Soriano can do the same thing.
Then there is this one from Larry R.: Using Baseball Reference.com statistics ... 1979: Templeton created 14.96 percent (102 RC) of the runs that an average NL team scored (682) in 1979. He created 13.95 percent of his St. Louis team's total of 731 runs. 1980: Templeton (age 24) Injuries restricted him to 118 games. On the basis of season totals, he created 11 percent (72 RC) of the NL average team (654), and 9.8 percent of his team's total of 738. On a per-game basis, he created 15.1 percent of the NL average for 118 games (476) and 13.4 percent of his team's 538 runs per 118 games. 2001: Soriano (age 23) Created 9.5 percent (75 RC) of the runs scored by an average AL team (787). He created 9.3 percent of his Yankee team's total of 804. 2002: Soriano (age 24) Created 16.2 percent (126 RC) of the AL average team (778) and 14.05 percent of his Yankee team's total of 897. At age 23, Templeton was clearly superior. His great year in 1979 built upon his 94 Runs Created (.322 BA) in 1977 (age 21) and 74 Runs Created in 1978. At age 24, Soriano had the upper hand over Templeton's injury year, while their per-game Runs Created were very close. Defensively, they are also similar, both regarded as able to make the spectacular play, with a lot of errors. You can make a good argument that Soriano is better than Templeton was in 1980, but it's certainly arguable. What we should all be hoping is that Soriano doesn't fall into the young superstar traps that ensnared Templeton."
John says: Either way, watching Soriano's development will be, to use a Vulcan phrase, "fascinating." The historical precedents are not exactly on his side, but history does not always repeat itself.
Tony P. asks: 2. Given the recent success of college pitchers like Mark Mulder, Barry Zito and Mark Prior, and the less successful track record of high school pitchers, do you anticipate a shift away from high school pitchers in the early rounds of the draft?
John says: As for the pitchers, if recent drafts are any indication, we will actually see more high school pitchers taken, not fewer, despite the poor historical track record. The last few draft classes have been thick with high school pitching, with guys taken in the second or third round who would have been clear first-round picks in previous seasons. I think we may be starting to see a shift in the cycle of young talent, with more pitchers and fewer hitters starting to filter through. Such shifts are natural, have happened before, and will happen again. The relationship between professional baseball and the colleges is about as bad as it has ever been, with teams becoming increasingly aggressive about signing pitchers out of high school, for fear that college programs will burn them out. And as bonuses rise, it becomes harder for the premium draft picks to turn down money, especially since money for college is now a standard part of the bonus package.
Albert A. writes: What do you think?
John says: John Sickels is the author of the 2002 STATS Minor League Scouting Notebook. He is currently writing a biography of Bob Feller. He lives in Lawrence, Kansas, with his wife, son, and two cats. You can send John questions or comments at JASickels@aol.com, or you can visit his homepage at johnsickels.com. |
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