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Sources: 'Substantive' talks; no deal

Updated: June 18, 2013, 10:16 AM ET
By Marc Stein and Ramona Shelburne | ESPN.com

The saga surrounding Doc Rivers and his proposed cross-country relocation from the Boston Celtics' bench to the Los Angeles Clippers' bench still has legs after all.

Sources close to the process told ESPN.com that the Celtics and Clippers held "substantive discussions" Monday on the proposed multilayered transactions that would send Rivers and Celtics star Kevin Garnett to Los Angeles. But the teams, sources say, remain unable to agree on a final trade framework to go through with ...

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