NBA owners, union finish talks for day
NEW YORK -- Talks between the NBA's owners and locked-out players have ended for the day, and the elephant in the room the owners and players had avoided until Friday -- how to split revenue between the sides -- has turned out to be a troublesome issue, indeed.
While the two sides made major progress on the "system" issues, the split of basketball-related income is still holding up a deal, sources close to the situation told ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard.
More on NBA Talks
The NLRB's ruling on the NBA lockout could come any day. Lester Munson wonders if that helped spark the renewed drive to strike a deal. Story
An "amnesty clause" is expected to be part of a new CBA. But some owners support adding more flexibility this time, sources tell ESPN.com's Marc Stein. Blog
What if over the last month players have lost their zeal? Henry Abbott asks what if, now, Billy Hunter is more strident than them? Blog
• Windhorst: Heat owner in hot water?
• NBA Lockout Topics Page »
Both sides are holding firm at their positions, with the owners still seeking a 50-50 split of BRI and the players demanding a 52 percent share. Players were guaranteed 57 percent in the previous collective bargaining agreement.
After two days of making some progress on salary-cap issues, the two sides turned their attention back to the revenue split Friday, the 120th day of the lockout. Talks broke down last week over that issue, and they had not attempted to deal with it since.
Though the first two weeks of the season already have been canceled, union executive director Billy Hunter has said he believes a full 82-game schedule is still possible with a deal this weekend.
"There are no guarantees that we'll get it done, but we're going to give it one heck of a shot tomorrow," commissioner David Stern said Thursday night. "I think that Billy and the union's negotiators feel the same way. I know that ours do."
The sides met for 7½ hours Thursday following a 15-hour marathon the previous day. Though no specifics have been offered, they both said there had been some compromise on system issues.
That has created optimism that the lockout could be nearing an end, though that was believed possible a couple of times earlier this month, only to be followed by a setback.
"I think we're within reach and within striking distance of getting a deal," Hunter said. "It's just a question of how receptive the NBA is and whether or not they want to do a deal."
Sources told Broussard that Hunter spoke to players earlier Thursday and reiterated the union's stance that players want at least a 52-48 split of basketball-related income.
The small groups that were meeting grew a bit Friday. Union vice presidents Chris Paul -- wearing a Yankees cap for his trip to New York -- and Theo Ratliff joined the talks, and economist Kevin Murphy returned after he was unavailable Thursday.
Mavericks owner Mark Cuban stayed for the session after taking part Thursday.
Without a deal, Stern must decide whether to add more cancellations to the two weeks that already have been lost.
A full season might be difficult even with a deal this week. It takes roughly 30 days from an agreement being reached to games being played, so it's uncertain if there's still time for any basketball in November, even before examining arena availability.
Information from ESPN The Magazine senior writer Chris Broussard and The Associated Press was used in this report.
MORE NBA HEADLINES
- Spurs up 1-0 on Thunder after 19th win in row
- Injured Heat forward Bosh participates in drills
- Heat, Celts agree: No excuses despite injuries
- Sources: Bobcats eye Shaw, Snyder interviews
MOST SENT STORIES ON ESPN.COM
MORE FROM THE WEB
Connect with Facebook to share your ESPN activities. Learn more »
Learn more- Social Sharing ON ▼
- ON OFF ▼
- Remind me every time I add an event to my Activity
- My Activity ▼
- Recently shared to your timeline:
Share ESPN with your friends
Your friend shared this story on Facebook. Share ESPN with your friends to see everything they're reading and watching, and then share the latest news about the sports and teams you care about most!

The NBA On ESPN.com

Twitter / Facebook / Google+
LATEST CONTENT
- Thorpe: Playoff MVP top 10 rankings
- Hollinger: Sixers-Celtics Game 7 keys
- Adande: Dealing with San Antonio Spurs
- Hollinger: Previewing Spurs-Thunder
- Biggest playoff trends: LeBron clutch
- Adande: New approach for the Lakers?
- Palmer: Playoffs' five breakout players
- Daily Dime: Sixers force Game 7 in Boston
- Draft Watch: How high can Waiters go?
REGULAR FEATURES

- JustinVerrier Justin Verrier
@bomani_jones I hear ya. I fear I'm in for the same. On the plus side(?): I have developed a nice addiction to caffeine along the way.
13 minutes ago
- JustinVerrier Justin Verrier

- JustinVerrier Justin Verrier
@bomani_jones I need more of that.
20 minutes ago
- JustinVerrier Justin Verrier

- JustinVerrier Justin Verrier
At what point in life was I supposed to learn time-management skills?
23 minutes ago
- JustinVerrier Justin Verrier

- ESPNChrisPalmer chris palmer
Chuck: "Bradley Cooper nipped me for sexiest man alive. I still haven't gotten over that."
42 minutes ago
- ESPNChrisPalmer chris palmer

- ESPNChrisPalmer chris palmer
Kenny Smith and Shaq both take Boston in 6.
about an hour ago
- ESPNChrisPalmer chris palmer

- ESPNChrisPalmer chris palmer
Russell Westbrook's wardrobe provided by Crayola.
about an hour ago
- ESPNChrisPalmer chris palmer

- jadande J.A. Adande
Bi-weekly. Does that answer your question? RT @SoonerTrav22: @jadande I don't understand how u get paid
about an hour ago
- jadande J.A. Adande

- ESPNChrisPalmer chris palmer
Barkley on CP3, Rondo & Parker: "He's been the best point guard in the NBA this year."
about an hour ago
- ESPNChrisPalmer chris palmer

- ESPNChrisPalmer chris palmer
Thunder and Spurs combine for 89 points off the bench.
about an hour ago
- ESPNChrisPalmer chris palmer

- ESPNChrisPalmer chris palmer
Gregg Popovich: "Guarding Kevin Durant is an impossible task basically."
about an hour ago
- ESPNChrisPalmer chris palmer

- ESPNChrisPalmer chris palmer
Line of the Night: Manu Ginobili 26 points (11 in 4th), 5 rebs, 3 asts, 9-14 FG, 3-5 3FG, 5-5 FT, W
about an hour ago
- ESPNChrisPalmer chris palmer

- DimeUpdate Dime Update
Manu Ginobili was unbelievable tonight. With 26 points including 3-3 in the last quarter and 11 points.
about an hour ago
- DimeUpdate Dime Update

- ESPNChrisPalmer chris palmer
FINAL: Spurs 101 , Thunder 98. Spurs lead 1-0.
about an hour ago
- ESPNChrisPalmer chris palmer

- DimeUpdate Dime Update
Also of note: The Spurs have won 30 of their last 32. GOOD GOD
about an hour ago
- DimeUpdate Dime Update

- johnhollinger John Hollinger
Update: Spurs now 44-4 in last 48 games Parker has played.
about an hour ago
- johnhollinger John Hollinger

- DimeUpdate Dime Update
And that will do it. The Spurs defeat the Oklahoma City Thunder in game 1 101-98 for their 19th straight win. This series will be the best.
about an hour ago
- DimeUpdate Dime Update

- johnhollinger John Hollinger
Heck of an opener. Wee bit of an upgrade on last night.
about an hour ago
- johnhollinger John Hollinger

- NBAonESPN The NBA on ESPN
RT @DimeAlert: BREAKING: We are going to love this series more than any other.
about an hour ago
- NBAonESPN The NBA on ESPN

- DimeAlert Dime Alert
BREAKING: We are going to love this series more than any other.
about an hour ago
- DimeAlert Dime Alert

- DimeUpdate Dime Update
Well the Thunder have cut it to 4… Spurs should close this out with only 3 seconds left but then again who knows...
about an hour ago
- DimeUpdate Dime Update
MORE FROM ESPN BOSTON
Check out the new ESPN Boston, the place for your local Boston sports coverage.
MORE FROM ESPN CHICAGO
Check out the new ESPN Chicago, the place for your local Chicago sports coverage.
MORE FROM ESPN DALLAS
Check out the new ESPN Dallas, the place for your local Dallas sports coverage.
MORE FROM ESPN LOS ANGELES
Check out the new ESPN Los Angeles, the place for your local Los Angeles sports coverage.
MORE FROM ESPN NEW YORK
Check out the new ESPN New York, your destination for sports coverage in the Big Apple.
FOLLOW US ON TWITTER