Chat with Scouts Inc.'s Steve Muench
Muench played four years of Division I-AA football before joining Scouts Inc. in 2002. He has evaluated both NFL and college football players but his current focus is on the NFL draft.
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Steve Muench (2:08 PM)
I hope everyone is doing well and had a chance to loom at their rosters with the new additions.
Brian- Livingston, NJ
Mike Tanenbaum has traded up 4 years in a row and the Jets end up with the fewest picks of any team in the NFL (although have gotten quality players like Revis, Harris and Keller). Belichick always trades down. Whose philsophy do you agree with?
Steve Muench (2:12 PM)
It all depends on the situation. For example , the Jets NEEDED a QB so I understand trading up to get Sanchez. On the other hand, the Patriots don't have that one pressing need so there was no need for them to move that far up in the draft. if the Pats needed that franchise left tackle or quarterback and they thought they could get him at 5 I think they would have tried to make a similar deal.
Steve Muench (2:13 PM)
I guess what I am trying to say is that I don't see it as a philosophy question as much as I see it as an approach question and your roster should always dictate the approach you take.
Hello. Mr. Muench. I was wondering what is your take on the Niners draft. Why do you think they did not draft an OL or a pass rusher? Get one later in the year (released player). Thanks for the chat.
Steve Muench (2:14 PM)
I really thought they would a tackle so I'm surprised in that regard but I love getting Crabtree at 10 and like getting Alabama RB Glen Coffee in the third.
Robert (Latrobe, PA)
Steve, I will miss the chats in the offseason! What did you think of the Steelers' draft? They filled their 4 biggest needs with their first picks; however, aside from Hood, they appeared to be reaches.
Steve Muench (2:16 PM)
The Steelers are another team that I thought would take a tackle and didn't. I also think they reached too much in the third round and Hood may be a better fit for a 4-3 scheme so I'm not too keen on their draft.
johnny (Henderson, Nv)
this was a rediculous draft, there were so many good guys not drafted, I think i shouldbe a recruiter, they missed out on a whole lotta talent. Here's a list of guys that should got drafted undoubtedly: BRIAN JOHNSON DARRELL MACK BRENT CASTEEL-UTAH, LUKE LIPPINCOTT-NEVADA, NATE NESS-ARIZONA, LOUIS VASQUEZ-ARIZONA STATE, IAN JOHNSON VINNY PERRETTA AND JEREMY CHILDS-BOISE STATE, MARLON LUCKY-NEBRASKA, TYRELL SUTTON AND CJ BACHER-NORTHWESTERN, QUENTIN CHANEY AND LENDY HOLMES-OKLAHOMA, JEREMIAH JOHNSON AND JAISON WILLIAMS-OREGON, CHARLES CLEMENT-RICE, GRAHAM HARRELL-TEXAS TECH, KAHLIL BELL-UCLA, MORTTY IVY AND REED WILLIAMSAND RYAN STANCHEK-WEST VIRGINIA, CHASE DANIEL-MISSOURI, JOHN PARKER WILSON-ALABAMA, MITCH KING-IOWA
Steve Muench (2:17 PM)
I just thought I'd post this for Johnny though I don't necessarily agree.
Randy PA [via mobile]
hey steve i like how the dolphins secondary looks but did we get enough help at wr in the draft
Steve Muench (2:20 PM)
I think they reached for both Patrick Turner and Brian Hartline. They should be deep enough there to get away with it but again two questionable picks. I'm not big on taking QB/WR Pat White in the second either.
Minor Hazleton, PA
I was wondering why the Patriots would trade down as much as they did during the draft. Also why wouldn't they want to draft clay matthews with the 1st pick and then Rey Maualuga with their 2nd pick?
Steve Muench (2:22 PM)
It's all about value and how their board stacked up when it came time for them to pick. They felt they could help their overall roster more by trading back instead of reaching for potential and it's an approach that has paid off for them in the past.
J.J.C. (Spring Lake, NC)
Can Everette Brown either (a) make everyone in Carolina forget about Julius Peppers like a bad dream, or (b) motivate Julius to step his game up, and maybe even entice him to sign a long term deal with the Panthers?
Steve Muench (2:25 PM)
I'm torn by the Brown pick. On one hand, I love his ability to get to the quarterback. On the other hand, I think his lack of size makes him a better fit at OLB in a 3-4 scheme. As a result, I'm not sure he's going make people forget about Peppers who is tough run stopper as well as an effective pass rusher. I don't think he's going to entice peppers into signing a long term deal either.
Do you think the PACKERS did enough in the draft to transition into a 3-4 defensive scheme? It seems like they got the best DT in the draft in Raji and they also got a top 3-5 OLB in Clay Matthews. How do you feel the Packers did in the draft? Thanks.
Steve Muench (2:28 PM)
The 3-4 defense needs an effective nose tackle to be at its best and they are rare so the Packers were lucky to get Raji at 9. I also like the Matthews' pick so yes I think they did enough to make a successful transition. As far as their overall draft is concerned I think they did a good job of filling needs without reaching so I think they did well but a lot will depend on how Matthews pans out.
I'll tell you as someone who dislikes the Patriots, I really thought they had a great draft. Everyone talked about their need for LB's but they needed help in the secondary. Chung is a big hitter ala Rodney Harrison. Darius Butler is a versatile defensive back and Ron Brace will be great in a rotation. Do you think the patriots will be the cream of the crop in the AFC this season? Thanks.
Steve Muench (2:28 PM)
if Tom Brady stays healthy.
Steve to follow up on the Panther, did it make any sense for them to use their 2010 1st rd pick for a 2nd rd pick in 2009? And there were a couple of teams who used this method for what some considered to be a medicore draft class.
Steve Muench (2:30 PM)
i'm having a really hard time figuring out all these trades to be perfectly honest about it. It really seems to be a topsy turvy market right now but I will say that I don't understand trading a first for a second.
Patrick (San Fran)
It's easy to say the Steelers reached in the third round. Who do you think would of been better picks? Urbick and Wallace seem like solid selections.
Steve Muench (2:34 PM)
We graded Duke Robinson higher than Urbik and he went in the fifth round. getting a tackle like T.J. Lang would have made more sense to me . I also would have taken Oklahoma WR Juaquin Iglesias or Arizona WR Mike Thomas ahead of Wallace.
Any chance Larry English plays some 3-4 DE so he can be on the field with Phillips and Merriman?
Steve Muench (2:34 PM)
Too small to hold up at end in that scheme.
Did the Broncos give up too much to get Alphonso Smith? Giving up a 1st rounder next year seems like a bad trade. The draft next year appears to be deeper than this years draft. The Broncos could really struggle and possibly gave up a top 10-15 draft pick next year. Plus, taking Moreno at #12 seemed like a luxury pick that they shouldn't have made. How do you feel about the Broncos draft? Thanks.
Steve Muench (2:38 PM)
I like it more than most. Smith was a fringe first round pick in out book so while I don't love the trade I get it. trading two thirds to get TE Quinn is a the bigger issue to me but again not the end of the world. In addition, I like the Moreno pick because I think he can excel in McDaniel' scheme and they were lucky to get Ayers at 18. Throw in Smith and DS Darcel McBath and you've added four players that should contribute this year and you've improved the defense.
Steve (Rochester, NY)
What is your evaluation of the Raiders draft class? Please no comments about where they got drafted....just tell me about the players. Thanks.
Steve Muench (2:41 PM)
Darius Heyward-Bey's hands are inconsistent but he's a threat to score every time he touches the ball. Fourth-round pick WR Louis Murphy can stretch the field as well but isn't as explosive. Seocnd round pick DS Michael Mitchell has a great deal of upside but is inconsistent. Third round pick Matt Shaughnessy is a relentless pass rusher who should develop into a nice role player.
Ralph (Northern Ireland)
Steve, what did you think of the Bucs draft? Freeman may be a risk but we needed a franchise QB and Jags is a good coach to develop him
Steve Muench (2:44 PM)
Freeman is the entire draft. if he pans out and he has a boatload of talent this draft is a success. If not it's a bust and as much I like the coaching staff there they can;t take the field with him so I am still concerned about him developing into a franchise quarterback.
Seahawk fans are very happy with the trade of the 2nd for Denver's 1st next year. Nice to know we will have a top 5 pick courtesy of the Broncos.
Steve Muench (2:45 PM)
Yikes. I doubt it's a top five pick thought.
I know about the whole Harvin character dealio, but if the Vikes didn't take him there wouldn't have been a playmaker like Harvin available for them in the second. My question is how far apart skill wise are Oher and Loadholt?
Steve Muench (2:48 PM)
Oher may have been the most athletically gifted tackle in this draft. The reason he fell as far as he did is the concern about his ability to pick up an NFL offense and adjust to different defensive looks. On the flipside, I think Loadholt is a reach in the second. He is massive and has long arms but he doesn't move his feet nearly well enough to be a second round pick.
What was your grade on Steve Smith before he was drafted?
Steve Muench (2:49 PM)
Wes I really don't know because I joined Scouts Inc. the summer after that draft but I will tell you this. he changed the way we looked at receivers, especially how much value we placed in size.
Steve Muench (2:51 PM)
wait are you talking about Carolina's Steve Smith or the Gaints' Steve Smith? I'm pretty sure we put a third round grade on the Giants' Smith but not certain.
What were your thoughts on the Cowboys draft? Is it just me or did they reach a round on almost every pick?
Steve Muench (2:52 PM)
it's not just you. They reached far too often.
Do you think Loadholt may eventually kick into guard?
Steve Muench (2:52 PM)
I really dont think that Stafford was the pick Lions should of went with. I belive they should of went with the tackle or LB. Also they didnt even get a tackle did they. And y did they give him so much money. IDK
Steve Muench (2:54 PM)
Only time will tell if Stafford was the right pick but it's certainly worth the debate in the meantime.
everyone says look at steve smith when it comes to size on how a shorter receiver can make it. it's about the head and heart and that can't be measured until the guy is in your camp
Steve Muench (2:57 PM)
if only it were that easy. I get what you are saying and it's a good point when you look at guys like Wayne Chrebet and Wes Welker but let's not lose perspective here. While there's a lot to like about Smith's heart, his inability to control his emotions has hurt him so the head part isn't always there. In addition, he has excellent top-end speed and athletic ability.
What do you think of Henry Melton? He's a very intriguing prospect don't you think?
Steve Muench (2:59 PM)
I thought he'd last a little longer than he did but he's a player who has made great progress and should continue to get better with time. I think he'll develop into an effective pass rusher.
What did you think of the rest of the Lions draft? I like the idea of getting the best TE and best S in the draft along with the best rated QB.
Steve Muench (3:00 PM)
I think they took the right approach by drafting for value over need. The reason is this team is more than a year away from being a contender in my estimation so why draft for need now?
J.J.C. (Spring Lake, NC)
Great! So E. Brown will change the way we look at defensive linemen in terms of size. Makes sense to me!
Steve Muench (3:04 PM)
He may and if he does then we will adjust how we evaluate the position. It's a fluid game and we keep a close eye on trends/progressions but I wouldn't bank on it. Ten years ago corners could push receivers around more so receivers needed to be a little stronger than they need to be now. smith benefited from the league cracking down on contact. I don't see the league coming out and saying you can't push around defensive ends when you run at them anymore. Maybe but probably not. And just so we are clear here I'm stunned a 3-4 team didn't take Brown in the first because I loved him on film.
Joe (Chicago, IL)
Bengals: Great Draft or Greatest Draft Ever?
Steve Muench (3:06 PM)
Man it looks good on paper doesn't it? Now let's see how the top three progress. I think Andre Smith and Rey Maualuga will be fine but Michael Johnson's inconsistency really scares me.
Jake Klipp (Milwaukee, WI)
Not only did we land our NT in Raji... But we can move him and Picket around, possibly at the strongside DE spot. That one pick helps out in MULTIPLE positions. Very excited about it. Don't know how I feel about Matthews. He looks like a juicer. What would Kampman's value be to a 4-3 team who has an end go down in the pre-season? Any chance we move him for a 2010 1st or 2nd? LOVED him as our 4-3 DE. Do not even like him as a 3-4 OLB.
Steve Muench (3:08 PM)
First off, why slip in the juicer comment? There's zero need for it. I get that these guys make millions so we feel that they don't have a right to privacy but you just accused a KID of using steroids base on his body type. No need for that. I also think Kampman could be a good fit for that scheme so don't write him off just yet.
Steve Muench (3:09 PM)
Jay from Philly, I'm not going to even post your comment and you know why but I think the Eagles had a great draft for what it's worth.
What did you think of Seattle's draft? I thought they should have taken Safety William Moore with their second roudn pick, they are awful at safety.
Steve Muench (3:12 PM)
I get the Moore argument but I like the Unger pick because he's a good value and they needed a versatile reserve offensive lineman.
Jake Klipp (Milwaukee, WI)
With all due respect, Matthews is now a millionare grown man, and not a kid. Another writer said he came in to college at 160 lbs. Can a guy put on 80 lbs in that amount of time? I guess. GB fans have a right to be nervous after the Mandarich fiasco. It's easier to get away with it in college than the pros. I hope he works out and fulfills his potential. But I don't think the comment is unfounded.
Steve Muench (3:16 PM)
Wow. Really? You don't think its irresponsible to publicly suggest that a 20-year old player used/is using steroids based on his weight gain/body type? How much does the body mature physcially between 16 and 20? it's not like we are comparing Barry Bonds art 25 and Bonds at 38. it's apples and oranges. Now if you want to word it another way and say should the Packers be concerned about the wight gain? I'm ok with that but to just say "I think he's a juicer" is irresponsible.
Steve Muench (3:18 PM)
I hate to end it on that note but I have got to run. I just wanted to say that I had a great time with the chat this year and hope to hear from all of you in the not so distant future. Take care.
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