Chat with Patrick Dorsey
Welcome to SportsNation! On Friday, Page 2's Patrick Dorsey stops by to unveil his Top 10 most flamboyant NFL personalities, after releasing the top 50 this week.
Send your questions now and join Dorsey Friday at 4 p.m. ET!
Patrick Dorsey (4:00 PM)
Get your unsweetened soy milk ready, because it's time to talk flamboyant NFL personalities! (Wait, that doesn't make sense...)
What was your criteria for your list? This is, afterall, Page 2.
Patrick Dorsey (4:05 PM)
Sorry about the delay. Software issues. We really wanted to find guys who embodied "Page 2," which is to say people who were memorable for more than football (but not too aligned with the wrong side of the law). That said, as with any list, you're going to forget some guys...
what about John Randall
Jon S. (BMore)
How about Bo Jackson? Seems like he should be close or near to #1.
Patrick Dorsey (4:06 PM)
...see what I mean? You could make a pretty strong group of honorable mentions. The NFL is not nearly as personality-free as one might initially believe.
Ryan (San Diego)
Did you have to have seen a guy play for them to be on the list?
Patrick Dorsey (4:08 PM)
Not at all. I won't tell how old I am, but let's just say it rhymes with "bwenty-bix." So many of these guys were gone before I even started watching. Luckily I had some help compiling.
I like your inclusion of Rod Tidwell, however, I think he should have been top 10 easy. Why so low?
Patrick Dorsey (4:09 PM)
Well, he gets docked points for not being real. Kind of limited his career, unless there was to be some spinoff TV show.
I'm reading your list up through 11-50 right now and if you don't have T.O. and/or Ochocinco in your top 10, then...well, I'm not really going to do anything but send you another message like this one tomorrow and that will be the end of it. But just know I'm watching you.
Patrick Dorsey (4:11 PM)
This was sent in yesterday, but I want to answer anyway. How great is/was the T.Ochocinco show? I know they anger some people, but these guys have been pretty special, from a flamboyant standpoint. Amazing that there were two even *wilder*.
The Manning Brothers? Peyton, maybe I could see, but Eli? Eli? He's boring and dry.
Patrick Dorsey (4:12 PM)
Ah, but deadpan funny can be a special kind of flamboyant. In an ironic way.
Any special mention or special category for NFL players that turned to a different, and successful, career after their playing days? Just thinking of (RIP) Lt. Hightower who passed away this week. He was just as good acting as he was on the field.
Patrick Dorsey (4:14 PM)
We did highlight quite a few football players-slash-actors (not models-slash-actors) on the list. Boz. Carl Weathers. Fred Williamson. Bubba came close, but didn't quite make the list (RIP, Capt. Hightower). It's amazing how many of these guys appeared on screen -- and in more than just cameos. Heck, Woody Strode got a Golden Globe nomination for Spartacus.
It's great that you included a fake player, but what about Ray Finkel (from Ace Ventura: Pet Detective) ? What could be more flamboyant than Sean Young playing an ex-football player?
Patrick Dorsey (4:16 PM)
I find this one debatable. On one hand, a former Dolphins kicker *did* end up getting played by a famous actress (laces out, Dan). On the other, he went undercover and changed his whole life, which is kind of the opposite of flamboyant.
Al Davis (Oakland)
Hey what's up with Jerry Jones getting on your list and not me! Perhaps your list should be the top 51!
Patrick Dorsey (4:17 PM)
Wait, I thought you were abstaining from this chat.
Have you ever tried having a snark off or a sarcasm off with DJ Gallo? Who would win?
Patrick Dorsey (4:19 PM)
Sarcasm? I honestly don't know what you're talking about.
Chris Fiegler (Latham,NY)
what NFL Coaches do you like from the best & the worst?
Patrick Dorsey (4:22 PM)
I hate going obvious, but Rex Ryan runs away with this (that's why he was so high on the list). He's a goofy guy and easy to make fun of, but you get the sense that he invites it on himself. The NFL needs more of him. Ditka and Jimmy Johnson were pretty entertaining, too. Of course, we all remember the Jim Mora Sr. and Dennis Green rants. Bonus: there was something a little flamboyant about that suit Mike Nolan wore.
Who's on your list of top 10 least flamboyant personalities?
Patrick Dorsey (4:25 PM)
Yeah, following up the coaches question with this one is a complete accident. (Borat pause...not.) Obviously there's a hoodied fella up in Foxboro (or is it borough? does that depend on the day?) who gets cited, but pro coaches by nature tend to hold things back. Side note: I hope Ochocinco's trip to New England doesn't turn him into a drone.
Chandler Bing (New York)
Could Deion Sanders BE any more flamboyant? What's the deal with the guys from Florida?
Patrick Dorsey (4:27 PM)
The heat and humidity makes us loopy. I'm doing this chat in army fatigues, which are covering a turtleneck sweater and a chain.
Bill Belichick (via mobile)
Patrick, do you MyFace? I don't even know what that is
Patrick Dorsey (4:28 PM)
Did someone leave 30 Rock on in your office again?
Q. What could be more flamboyant than Sean Young playing an ex-football player?A. Sean Young on Celebrity Rehab.
Patrick Dorsey (4:30 PM)
See, Ray Finkle is just trying to get help.
Cowboy Joe West (via mobile)
Cmon Dorsey, pick up the pace of the chat. This is pathetic and embarrassing.
Patrick Dorsey (4:31 PM)
*Channeling Frank Drebin* Youuuuuuure ouutta here!!!!
Shannon Sharpe (via mobile)
Dorsey, you can't even spell "Dow Jones"
Patrick Dorsey (4:31 PM)
Please say that in your HOF speech, will you? I'd take the shoutout.
who is your top ten teams?
Patrick Dorsey (4:34 PM)
If we're talking flamboyant, obviously the Cowboys land the No. 1 spot. The Raiders aren't far behind. Dolphins have had some good ones (see what I mean? we're loopy down here). And today, it's gotta be the Jets vs. the Steelers. That'd be a solid championship game all itself...
Do you grill with charcoal or gas?
Patrick Dorsey (4:34 PM)
Microwave. Now *that's* flamboyant.
Did you read the Jeff Pearlman book (or maybe it was Jeff McGregor, I can't remember) about the 90s Cowboys? Anyone who has will absolutely agree with them as your No.1. Charles Haley, anyone?
Patrick Dorsey (4:37 PM)
I did not read it, but I've heard many of the stories. Funny thing, I spent my early years in Phoenix, and for some reason they liked the Cowboys almost better there than the Cardinals. Wonder why...I mean, other than winning vs. losing.
I know its a little off topic, but if you have Lebron James' number, can i have it? I want personally tell him how much of a faliure he really is.
Patrick Dorsey (4:39 PM)
Hmmm...Tebow might be able to help you out.
Nuke LaLoosh (Durham)
How did I not make the list? I've gotta Porsche. I've got a 911 with a quadrophonic Blaupunkt!
Patrick Dorsey (4:41 PM)
Well, for one, you seem to have forgotten which sport you play. Considering that, not sure you could get even five cents for that head, especially in this economy.
Brian S (Denver)
Wild Thing Vaughn? Willie Mayes Hayes? Pedro Cerrano? Hell, even Harry Doyle. Serious omissions.
Patrick Dorsey (4:42 PM)
If we were to do a baseball list, it'd start with Reggie Jackson as hypnotized assassin in Naked Gun.
Nina (New York)
How much did appearances on reality tv, like Dancing With The Stars, boost players chances in your list? And if so, do you think Jay Cutler can make it on next time?
Patrick Dorsey (4:45 PM)
Pretty big. DWTS was so common, it was like a bachelors degree. And reality shows helped, too...was especially keen on Freddie Mitchell's dating show appearances. As for Jay, he took a hit with the Cavallari split. Gotta rebound from that to be flamboyant, Mr. Cutler.
I heard Detroit Lions have a legit chance for playoffs, true?
Patrick Dorsey (4:46 PM)
Talk like that'll get you on a flamboyant list in the future, sir.
Sloth love Chunk! Wore his Raiders T-Shirt in that movie too.
Patrick Dorsey (4:47 PM)
Amazing how lovable he was in "Goonies," yet so crazy off the field. RIP, Tooz.
"Only McMahon constantly rocked the sunglasses..." Do you know why Patrick?
Patrick Dorsey (4:50 PM)
Research tells me light sensitivity, which is a tough thing to deal with (as a blue-eye, I myself struggle to hit well during day games like Josh Hamilton). McMahon's was a lot more severe, and you don't wish that on anyone, but looking great wearing sunglasses all the time is a nice way to combat a condition.
Me (in front of a computer)
Chad Johnson, We all know how flamboyant he can be. Does it hurt him as a player or... is Lebron James a waste of space in the NBA?
Patrick Dorsey (4:52 PM)
Huh. For some reason those two questions seem unrelated. But I'll answer the first one first: It might hurt his play, but as a fan I'd trade a little skill and production for entertainment value.
Took a fork to the eye...don't forget he mooned a helicopter in New Orleans during Super Bowl week. That's our Punky QB!
Patrick Dorsey (4:52 PM)
Ladies and gentlemen, Jim McMahon.
Deltha (Evanston, IL)
Do chicks dig the touchdown celebration?
Patrick Dorsey (4:55 PM)
Can't speak for them, but Page 2 certainly does! (That's incentive enough to keep being creative, right NFL players? Right? Anyone?)
Surely someone with your knowledge base would consider Lyle Alzado? Now he was flamboyant.
Patrick Dorsey (4:58 PM)
Ah, the pride of Yankton (S.D.) College, which doesn't even exist anymore. Yes, Lyle would have been a great choice, too, even if he met a very sad end.
Ed Hochuli (Gym getting warmed up for season)
We frown on TD celebrations. 15 yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty. Repeat 2nd down.
Patrick Dorsey (4:58 PM)
Give us a break, Guns. We were just excited about that touchdown!
Patrick Dorsey (5:00 PM)
...wait, what's that, Guns Hochuli? We're out of time? Well, thanks so much to everyone for the questions! And enjoy the NFL this year...maybe a new Flamboyant 50 hopeful will be born. (Or, well, discovered. Chances are if he's in the NFL this year he's already been born.)