Chat with KC Joyner
Welcome to SportsNation! On Thursday, ESPN Insider KC Joyner, will be here to answer your NFL questions.
Joyner, aka The Football Scientist, uses game film to track, tabulate and analyze nearly every measurable statistic in an NFL game. He is a regular Insider contributor and has his own website at thefootballscientist.com.
Send your questions now and join KC Thursday at 4 p.m. ET!
KC Joyner (4:00 PM)
Good afternoon! Let's talk some football!
Jason Deberg (San Diego, CA)
KC, I have to say it's getting tough to do your chats live when I have sent in a hundred questions and everyone you answer is from the same people week after week. JB, Xavier, Jimmy........
KC Joyner (4:01 PM)
I do try and mix things up while at the same time rewarding those chatters who show up every week. It's a balancing act that is really impossible to keep everyone happy with.
Zach (Bronx, NY)
I've been watching their games pretty closely, and if I was picking #1 at QB, I think I would take RGIII over Luck. RGIII makes good decisions and has a true NFL arm especially on vertical throws. Luck, to me, looks like a little more mobile version of Matt Schaub.
KC Joyner (4:02 PM)
If a team is willing to put in an offense that fits RG3's skill set, he'd be a good fit. Luck is more ready to start out of the gate in most NFL offenses.
Steeler DB (Palo Alto)
Breylon Edwards seems to be way over rated, and for several years. Does he catch many passes thrown to him? How does he rank even with SF receivers?
KC Joyner (4:03 PM)
Edwards was a top 10 WR in vertical passes last year, but this year he has fallen off in large part because of injuries. Get him healthy again and on a team that will use his vertical receiving skills and he could replicate his 2010 numbers.
Follow up! Do you think the Honey Badger, #7 deserves it.
KC Joyner (4:05 PM)
The Heisman? Can't quite get there. Just wrote an article for Insider that will be posted tomorrow that shows why Montee Ball should win the Heisman. He won't win it (RG3 is the likely winner), but everything about his 2011 season says he should.
KC, regarding your article on the Cowboys, don't you think Romo takes way too much heat? Aside from the Lions game, he is the main reason Cowboys are in contention!
KC Joyner (4:06 PM)
Romo has taken way too much heat for those games. Yes, the Lions loss was due in part to his ridiculous gaffes, but all in all he has played great this year (both metrically and from a scouting perspective).
Eric (Chicago) [via mobile]
Does Haden shut down Wallace tonight?
KC Joyner (4:08 PM)
Not quite. Wallace is still listed as a must start on the TFS start-sit charts. Speaking of those, they are due to be released about 6 PM tonight, so I will probably be cutting out the chat a bit early to finish them up (had a couple of extra assignments this week that pushed the usual release time out a bit).
Mike (San Diego)
KC, I hope there's no haters in here today...they bore me. Anyway, wanted to thank you for the Dez Bryant over Steve Smith advice last week...that TD won the week for me. I think I've been in your chats since they started way back when...always appreciate your knowledge!
KC Joyner (4:09 PM)
Funny this is there are actually haters in every chat - I just don't normally give them a voice because the other chatters aren't here to hear the haters.
Candy (Pa) [via mobile]
KC, you are the epitome of a troll journalist. Throw crazy stuff out for reaction, hope some of it is right. I come here to laugh, so thanks for that. Earl Little???
KC Joyner (4:09 PM)
See what I mean? And, by the way, it's great to see people noting the picks I got wrong without noting any of the many picks I've gotten right. But, don't worry, this will be the last hater post of this chat.
Jeff Roemer (Tampa)
If memory serves, Edwards was the NFL drop (or drop %) leader in 2009 before rebounding nicely in 2010. Be curious to see where his performance fits so far in 2011. Any consistency?
KC Joyner (4:11 PM)
He had issues with drops in Cleveland as well, but he still can post terrific numbers even with those gaffes.
Mike Wallace (Pitt)
should people still play me this week? other options are santana moss, michael crabtree and mike williams south
KC Joyner (4:11 PM)
Got Wallace listed as a must start and ahead of all of those three.
Any chance Mendenhall breaks his 2011 mold and goes for 100+ yards tonight? All-in-all a rather disappointing late first-round fantasy pick this year.
KC Joyner (4:12 PM)
The Cleveland defense is apt to make him look like a Pro Bowl player. He's got a very good chance to break the 100-yard mark.
Ryan F. (Tulsa, OK)
Blackmon's going pro. How high do you think he goes? What team SHOULD try to get him?
KC Joyner (4:13 PM)
There is a lot to like about Blackmon but his 2011 season was nowhere near as good as his 2010 season. He should be a first-round pick but maybe more towards the middle of the first-round than the top.
KC what do u think of the jets going after peyton? i see it working.. Rex loves him and with that defense the Jets would be a legit superbowl threat
KC Joyner (4:14 PM)
If it were the Peyton Manning in his prime, it's a good move. This version of Peyton Manning isn't the same and signing him would be the Brett Favre saga, part 2 (at least from an on-field perspective).
First off, sorry Jason. I just have a lot to say and KC humors me. KC, Gerhart has impressed me but with AP in front of him, I can't see him being much of a factor for MN. Can you see the Vikes packaging him up for say some picks and/or secondary help?
KC Joyner (4:16 PM)
And J.B. tends to post a lot of very interesting questions. Gerhart has been quite productive this year (only .5 yards behind AP in the GBYPA metric this year - see this week's Pass Plays article for more details). Not sure the Vikes will be able to get a lot for him unless he posts terrific numbers down the stretch, but that could give them a reason to sit Peterson and make Gerhart their bell cow the rest of the way.
Hi KC! You've been a great help to me this season. Thank you. I'm playing my male roommate in the 1st week of the playoffs. So you can imagine all of the trash talking I'm hearing from him. Besides I would love for him to have to tell everyone he go knocked out of the playoffs by a girl. Whats your advice for those who have Austin and Robinson. Who's the smarter play? And what do u think about starting R. Grant this week? Thank u!!
KC Joyner (4:18 PM)
There may not be anything as cool as a girl playing fantasy football and enjoying the heck out of it. Robinson is currently ahead in the Austin-Robinson rankings, but that may change depending on the Friday injury update. Let's look at this again tomorrow for a final answer.
James (Possum, Ga) [via mobile]
Interesting question? Who's giving up draft picks/secondary help for Toby Gerhart???
KC Joyner (4:19 PM)
Gerhart has been playing well in Peterson's absence. If he does that for most of the last four weeks, it could definitely draw the interest of some team. Not saying it will happen, but it is a ponderable question (pun intended).
Damon (Butler, NJ)
My man KC! I know it's not a fantasy chat, but pickups have to be done today...I have the highest point total in my league, but have to win this week or I miss the playoffs...I have Hillis, or I could pick up Helu, Gerhart, or Morris...what is your suggestion on who to start this week?
KC Joyner (4:21 PM)
Trying to get as many fantasy questions in as possible without turning this into a full fantasy chat. Helu is the way to go in that group, with Gerhart being a close second if Peterson does not play.
Hey KC, I know it's not Friday but answer this since i have to decide my lineups by tonight as our lineup locks after kickoff :(. Who would you play at WR2 (ppr)? - damian williams, shillens or floyd? Thanks
KC Joyner (4:22 PM)
Floyd wins that one.
Scott (Northglenn, CO)
Is the current LSU CB a better prospect than the last on to come out - Patrick Peterson??
KC Joyner (4:23 PM)
Morris Claiborne is actually the best LSU CB prospect right now. Mathieu is very good in coverage and obviously has punt return skills, but Claiborne is the better CB.
What's up with Dalton? he has not looked too hot recently, is it just a function of AJ's health and better competition (Pit and BAL)? How will he fare vs Houston?
KC Joyner (4:24 PM)
It's mostly the competition level, as the Bengals are good but not quite in the league of Pittsburgh and Baltimore. Houston has limitations on offense, but their D is superb, so Dalton might not do that much better this week.
Interested to hear your thoughts on Archie Manning's comments about Peyton and Luck not being the right fit ...
KC Joyner (4:27 PM)
It's a modified version of that old John Madden saying - if a team has two number one QBs, they really don't have a QB. In this case, the Colts would have two bona fide number one QBs, but a team operates best when it has one person who is the guy at QB. If they were to draft Luck, trading Peyton would be the right move to make.
Zach (Bronx, NY)
Re: Houston/Cincy, I know TJ Yates isn't the decision maker that Schaub is, but he doesn't look anything like a fifth round pick.
KC Joyner (4:28 PM)
He sure doesn't. And he actually was a pretty good QB in college (at least he was at times).
What have you seen in Matt Moore this season? Is he actually someone who Miami can count on possibly in the future or is it just us Miami fans hoping?
KC Joyner (4:29 PM)
Maybe the best way to put it is that it looks like Moore has yet to hit his ceiling. Might as well stick with him, get some better pass catchers and see what that ceiling is.
If Ruben Randle sticks around for his senior year at LSU, is he a first rounder in the 2013 draft?
KC Joyner (4:30 PM)
Mettenberger, the likely 2012 starter for LSU, is a better passer than either Lee or Jefferson. That should help Randle raise his stock, so sticking around for his senior season makes a lot of sense. Not sure if he gets to first round status, though it is very early to make a judgment on that.
Of the three Steelers I own which do I start tonight? Ben over Eli? Mendy over M.Bush/Bradshaw/Battle? Wallace over Roddy/Steve Smith(CAR)?
KC Joyner (4:31 PM)
Eli over Ben. Mendy over the other three. White over Wallace (by a very slight amount).
The Colts are AWFUL! They have been drafting horribly and have been picking late each round for years. Even with Manning I bet they were a fringe playoff team. Shouldn't they start rebuilding by drafting Luck and TRADING Manning for a Herschel Walker haul? Look at what Palmer netted the Bengals!
KC Joyner (4:33 PM)
Key to remember about the Walker deal - Dallas already had their QB of the future in Aikman. Players of Luck's caliber are very hard to find, so that trade option had best include an option to get a top-line QB or it wouldn't be worth it.
Better chance to put up SOME numbers tonight: Hillis or Ogbo?
KC Joyner (4:34 PM)
Getting more than a few Hillis/Ogbo questions. They should be considered among the lowest rated starters of the week.
JP (Columbus, OH)
Better hypothetical move for my Bengals: Trade a 1st + 4th to move up to Top 7 and pick Trent Richardson, taking a Safety with the other first round pick...or stay put and take a WR and Safety, worry about RB later...or something else?
KC Joyner (4:36 PM)
Depends on where they end up in the draft, but moving a 4th rounder to get to a point where they can draft Richardson sounds like a very good idea.
I read a blog post over on the NFC South Blog today about Tony Dungy and how much he could bring back for the Bucs. I love the Bucs and I love Dungy. Setting aside the possibility of it happening. What do you think?
KC Joyner (4:37 PM)
Really like Dungy and like a lot of the Bucs talent, but betting on veteran coaches is a relatively low percentage move. Wrote an entire chapter on that in Blindsided, nutshell of which is once a coach has been in the league for 10-12 years, you can pretty much count him out for winning a championship.
Larry was advocating trading Peyton, not Luck.
KC Joyner (4:39 PM)
My bad. It is very unlikely an aging, injured Peyton Manning is going to net a Walker-like trade. If it did, Colts fans should pay the city to put a statue of the Polians square in the middle of downtown.
Jeff Roemer (Tampa)
Richardson isn't the answer in the Cincy run game. Everyone recall a year ago how "Mark Ingram was going to shore up Miami's run game." Run game is about scheme and blocking unless you're talking about erosion of physical skills like a Ryan Grant. Even so the next horse needn't be acquired in the 1st round. Fool's errand.
KC Joyner (4:40 PM)
Jeff, the thing is that Cincy has good run blocking but Benson isn't the type of back who can make the most of it. Richardson isn't a home run hitter but he would give the Bengals an Adrian Peterson type of smashmouth ballcarrier. And it may not be likely that a team at the No. 7 draft spot is going to trade that pick for a low first-round pick plus a 4th rounder.
I see Wallace as must start, how about CMU product Antonio Brown?
KC Joyner (4:41 PM)
Got Brown as a borderline must start (think of that as a top 15-20 WR for this week).
Follow up on the 10-12 year coaching ceiling. What's the main reason for that? Does their scheming get old and their system get figured out?
KC Joyner (4:42 PM)
Various reasons, but a lot of it is that old saying "coaching is a young man's game."
Hakeem Nicks and Cruz shred the Cowboys secondary Sunday night?
KC Joyner (4:43 PM)
More sold on Cruz doing that than Nicks, as Jenkins has been playing fairly well of late. Well, hate to cut it short but those start-sit charts need to get finished, so I've got to run. Quick note - the TFS material is always posted on Twitter @kcjoynertfs. Hope to see you all here in tomorrow's 3 PM ET fantasy football chat!
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