Chat with KC Joyner
Welcome to SportsNation! On Thursday, ESPN NFL Insider KC Joyner wants to help you with your fantasy football team, so bring all of your questions to his chat.
Joyner, aka The Football Scientist, uses game film to track, tabulate and analyze nearly every measurable statistic in an NFL game. He is a regular Insider contributor and has his own website at thefootballscientist.com.
Send your questions now and join KC Thursday at 4 p.m. ET!
KC Joyner (4:00 PM)
Good afternoon! Let's talk some fantasy football!
Ivan Koloff (USSR)
Who comes back sooner: Vereen or DMartin?
KC Joyner (4:01 PM)
It's great to see him show up on some of the new WWE DVDs. Would think Vereen is the first to come back at full strength.
Have to leave right now! (Please help)
Who is the better flex play, Boykin or Le'Veon? Thanks!
KC Joyner (4:02 PM)
But you just got here! Got Boykin rated higher this week.
Insane (In the Membrane)
Newton tonight or Wilson Monday? It is driving me up the wall!
KC Joyner (4:03 PM)
Insane in the brain! Tampa's secondary is abysmal (at least outside of Revis). Start Cam.
PPR league, D. Sproles and H. Miller for L. Bell and T. Gonzalez?
KC Joyner (4:04 PM)
See, they don't all have to be wrestling-oriented. This person could have gone the Dusty Rhodes route and instead just went with Dusty from Minnesota (unless that is intended as an homage to Rhodes' AWA days). Would rather be on the Bell/Gonzalez side of that trade.
Super Fly Snuka (Off the top rope)
Do you think Ivory will take over the RB1 job with the Jets? Is Powell just ordinary?
KC Joyner (4:05 PM)
Second chat in a row to have to say this - if you are going to post a Snuka-based question, it needs to be off of the top of the cage, not the top rope! Think the Jets will be a lead/alternate situation with Ivory as the lead (though they may go platoon short term).
Am I nuts to start J Reed over J Cameron, especially given the match-ups?
KC Joyner (4:07 PM)
Absolutely not. Reed has been on the TFS radar screen for a few weeks now and just got upgraded to a green rating. Add RG3 getting back up to speed and the Browns switching to Campbell (Cameron's 3rd QB) and the matchup and Reed is the better pick this week.
A Wrestler (The Ring)
If you're a Peterson owner, are you selling him? If so, what are you looking for in return?
KC Joyner (4:08 PM)
It's time to consider selling Peterson. Can't lower the asking cost by much. Definitely a high-end green rated player at the very least.
Hoping changing my name changes my luck...need your help TFS--need two for flex 0.5ppr--Stacy, Nicks, Gordon. Thanks!
KC Joyner (4:09 PM)
Hey, as noted in every chat, a good name in the question helps but the key to get posted is to either add some humor or ask a really interesting question. It's not all wrestling-based. Nicks and Gordon win that one, as Stacy has a very tough matchup and now has a very bad QB situation.
Josh (5th week showing up for this chat)
Just picked up Reed off the ww; should I start him or Witten? Also trying to decide between Ellington and Miller (how is it Miller has fallen so far?!)
KC Joyner (4:11 PM)
Thanks for the persistence! Reed over Witten. Assuming Miller is Lamar Miller (and not Heath Miller for a flex question), Miller is the selection (matchup is very favorable).
Superfly (Top of the cage)
KC - I'm coming for you from up high! Auction keeper league trade question. Give Dez ($21 keeper next year) to receive Spiller ($1 keeper) and Denarius Moore? Other WR are S. Smith, Bowe, Nicks & Jeffery
KC Joyner (4:12 PM)
That's more like it. Really tough call, as Spiller should be a very highly rated player next year when he is healthy. Would make the trade, as quality RBs are really tough to find (there are only 12 RBs who are considered high-end start prospects this week - just 12!).
Major Tom (Ground Control)
Yeah you got the right Miller, thanks!
KC Joyner (4:13 PM)
Always like to make sure! Funny with the Major Tom comment - seems he wanted to be floating out in space.
Don't watch wrestling (Should I be?)
Who ranks highest on your list this week, non PPR: Ellington, Stacy, Ivory, Helu? Thanks buddy.
KC Joyner (4:14 PM)
Put it this way - almost all of the wrestling comments have to do with old school wrestling. That should say something about today's product. Tough call, got Ivory rated highest.
Lance (KC Joyner Chat Club Member Since 2011)
FLEX ? = NonPPR. Who you like the best as a FLEX Option here in Wk8--Gio Bernard, Rueben Randle, Zac Stacy, OR SJAX? Thanks KC!
KC Joyner (4:15 PM)
That's what we need for this chat - membership cards! Would go Randle, as he and Jackson both rate high this week but Jackson is battling an injury.
Would a Charles Clay costume be more accurate as a blocking TE who catches a few passes when other Dolphins are covered, or as a key receiver to Miami's game plan who is masquerading as a TE?
KC Joyner (4:16 PM)
Good to see some of the Halloween humor from the Sunday morning chat make it over to the Thursday chat! Clay is a key receiver, which makes him a good FFB pickup.
KC Joyner (4:17 PM)
Side note - next week's chat is on Halloween! It'll have to be a themed chat - only Halloween-themed questions get posted. That's a hint - get your Halloween-themed jokes ready in advance!
Dark Helmet (Druida)
I CAN'T BREATHE IN THIS THING!!! Bye week blues. In a .5 PPR, which guy do you start in flex? Avery, Beasley, BGibson or Hillis?
KC Joyner (4:18 PM)
Good is dumb. Gibson would be the pick.
Bruno Samartino (NY)
Ellington, Mendenhall in my flex.
KC Joyner (4:19 PM)
See, and someone said earlier that I wouldn't post a Bruno question. Sammartino rules - his autobiographical DVD is a must see, both from a wrestling perspective and as an uplifting story (his real-life story is very inspiring). Got Mendenhall rated slightly higher.
Joe (Whats for Dinner?)
KC Lamar Miller or Chris Ivory? Going up against a good team and need every point I can get.
KC Joyner (4:20 PM)
Not sure on dinner - might be a night where we go out to eat. Miller has more upside potential because of his matchup, so he's the pick.
I'll sign up I'll sign up (Orlando)
R.White dropped in my non ppr! Add over T.Smith,Garcon or Blackmon?
KC Joyner (4:20 PM)
Just have to figure out how to theme the membership cards. Would not add White over those three - they are healthy and he isn't.
The British Bulldog (Ruff)
Who should I flex this weekend in my PPR league C.Shorts or G.Bernard Thanks my man
KC Joyner (4:22 PM)
Ruff back at ya. Mrs. Scientist's favorite WWE tag team from back in the day (she was also a big Rock 'n Roll Express fan but says the Bulldogs would be the pick out of those two). Got Shorts rated higher.
the call (inside the house)
hillis or bge this week? .5 ppr (clearly a rough week for byes for me)
KC Joyner (4:23 PM)
Do yourself a favor and go to Youtube and watch a video called Hell No: The Sensible Horror Film. About fell out of my chair laughing when I saw that. Clearly a rough bye week - go with BJGE, as Hillis has what Matt Williamsom termed "cinder block" feet.
Are there membership dues? (I'll bring cookies)
Which RBs do you think finish strongest down the stretch?
KC Joyner (4:25 PM)
The dues are simple - bring a joke. Cookies are also very welcome. Tough question to answer in this format - will say the Washington RBs are likely to do quite well ROS. Getting good run blocking and RG3 is back to his old self.
MACHO MAN RANDY SAVAGE (SNAPPING INTO A SLIM JIM?)
Who to start at FLEX this week? Mike James tonight or Danny Amendola? (0.5 PPR)
KC Joyner (4:26 PM)
His classic Slim Jim commercials beat the heck out of the new Slim Jim commercials. They should do themselves a favor and break out some of the old school material. Amendola - the Panthers have a tough run D.
If you bring cookies (I'll bring the milk)
Would you buy low on Spiller? What would be fair trade value?
KC Joyner (4:27 PM)
Sounds like we are getting the snack portion of the meeting set. Chatters must be hungry right about now. Spiller's issue is injury related so that makes his near-term upside a big question mark. Would buy low but would stick with a yellow-rated caliber player (think flex pick or quality backup).
Will Robinson (Lost in Space)
When is the best time to start overpaying for stud starters? I want to trade current starters and bench players for better starters. Thanks scientist!
KC Joyner (4:29 PM)
Hard to say because it depends on the team owner as much as it does the player. Will say this - effort levels for NFL teams start to vary as their seasons progress. Aim to start making trades when this effort level moves to the point where a player is apt to falter/improve because of this.
I'll eat the cookies (sounds better than bringing them)
Would you pick up Ryan Mathews off of waivers before Stacy? Non PPR
KC Joyner (4:30 PM)
You know, someone has to bring pepperoni rolls, too. The official snack of the TFS chats. Would definitely aim for Mathews over Stacy.
Peanut Butter (Chocolate Chip) [via mobile]
Can't get any better. You think Charles keeps up both his volume and production? His legs should be pretty fresh after all those years of splitting carries with the immortal Thomas Jones.
KC Joyner (4:31 PM)
Now we have a request for a particular cookie type. If that's the case, put a request in for some double chocolate chip - that way I can bring some home to Mrs. Scientist. Charles should keep up his volume and production - see no signs of either dropping off.
I'll bring the pizza rolls (Hum V)
Cam over Vick? L. Miller, D. Moore or Z. Stacy at Flex?
KC Joyner (4:32 PM)
It's pepperoni rolls, not pizza rolls! But if you want to bring them as well, I'm sure the chatters won't mind. Got Denarius rated highest of that trio.
SUPER FLY SNUKA "THE ORIGINAL" (OFF THE TOP OF THE CAGE)
Hey KC, whoever used the super flY snuka today was a fake!!!!!! i wouldev never got it wrong twice he saw the chat last week and took advantage....COME UP WIT UR OWN NAME.....STOP SWAGGER JACKING....do i drop lamar 4 helu or james....and REED must be rostered correct thinking of him as a option for flex...ur thoughts please....thanks
KC Joyner (4:34 PM)
Thought that seemed awfully odd. And he's right - don't steal someone else's swagger! Kind of like that wrestling rule that says don't steal another person's finishing hold (or at least get their permission to use it). Tough call on Lamar - would probably drop him for Helu. Reed must be rostered - he's a green-rated TE now.
3 RBs walk into a bar (buy em a drink)
Moreno, Bush and Morris, which order do you currently value these guys? non ppr
KC Joyner (4:35 PM)
Am thinking this is going to be a non-alcoholic meeting, so it'll have to be something other than a beer. Got them rated exactly as they are listed - Moreno, Bush, Morris.
Yokozuna (Bringing the Sake!)
I am desperate for WR help and have Forte and Lynch. Should I trade Bush and Boldin for J. Nelson and F-Jax? We start 3 wrs and Ive been shuffling Fitz, Colston and Boldin.
KC Joyner (4:36 PM)
Creative post - a wrestling name along with food for the meeting. Like that trade with one caveat - Jackson is now battling an injury. If you can deal with that risk element, it's a good move.
I need a SCIENTIST to tell me what to expect from Chris Johnson ROS. Do I believe more in the performance thus far, or in the soft schedule to come?
KC Joyner (4:37 PM)
Johnson has been getting productivity in pass game and Tennessee seems to be aiming more passes his way, so look for the recent performance to continue.
Pepperoni Rolls (West Virginia's unofficial state snack)
Better play ROS, Terrance Williams or Edelman?
KC Joyner (4:38 PM)
If memory serves correct, that's why the pepperoni rolls were first mentioned in the chat - had something to do with West Virginia. Williams ROS - he's healthier and the Cowboys are starting to go vertical more often.
Me and another guy in my league picked up a ton of QBs on our bench to where others couldn't use them.Fair or foul?
KC Joyner (4:39 PM)
I'm not much for making personnel moves with the sole intention of hurting another team. Put it this way - if someone made that kind of move in a league I was commissioner of, they wouldn't be invited back the next year.
what about the wings (C'mon man)
Would you play Blackmon, DMC or Colston in flex? and MHD, Miller or Stacy droppable for likes of Vereen...don't need right now?
KC Joyner (4:40 PM)
You talking chicken wings for the chat? Or the Detroit Red Wings? Please clarify! Got Blackmon rated highest. Those three are droppable for Vereen.
Cuba vs Carolina tonight (Schiano is loved)
Thoughts on Alfred Morris ROS....top 10? (little worried about Helu and RG3 running)
KC Joyner (4:42 PM)
Not sure what that post title means. Regarding Morris, top 10 status is definitely at stake given Helu's production. Still, even if that turns into a platoon, Morris is a good RB2, so he's top 20 at worst.
What the heck are.... (Pepperoni rolls?)
I have Vareen and Andre Brown, but someone just dropped White. who would you drop to snag him? i also have M Bush as a forte owner...
KC Joyner (4:43 PM)
Someone want to explain what a pepperoni roll is? Wouldn't drop either to pick up White, as he is battling an injury. If pushed, would drop Brown.
Avs fan no Red Wings here! (Chicken wings all the way)
KC Joyner (4:44 PM)
Ouch! Too bad they are now in different conferences. And I can't ever forgive Claude for that hit. That's OK - DRW got revenge on him and made him turtle :-)
Cuba vs Carolina tonight (Follow up)
Former players referred to playing for Schiano as like "being in Cuba"....look it up....funny stuff
KC Joyner (4:44 PM)
Ah, figured it had something to do with that story.
Mean Gene Okerlund (Ringside)
Is there any hope for Trent Richardson? He is being out played by Donald Freaking Brown!
KC Joyner (4:45 PM)
We talking the WWE version of Okerlund or the AWA version? There is hope for Richardson since the Indy run blocking is actually faring quite well this year. Keep the faith, or at least don't trade him too low.
A pepperoni roll is... (A roll with pepperoni in it!)
LaFell tonight or Marvin Jones Sunday...also who got the better of this trade...Leveon bell and Jordan cameron for welker
KC Joyner (4:47 PM)
Well, that's the easy answer. Was hoping for something a bit more detailed. Would rather be on the Welker side of that trade. Depending on Jones' injury status, you may have to start LaFell. But if Jones look to be starting, he's the pick.
Good Ol JR (At the store buying BBQ Sauce)
Report just surfaced that Doug Martin could return in week 10. Someone in my league dropped him. Worth stashing on my bench in hopes he comes back and regains some form? Same situation with Cobb except a later return date.
KC Joyner (4:48 PM)
I've been meaning to buy some of JR's BBQ sauce for a while now. Need to put that Mrs. Scientist's purchase list. Absolutely worth stashing Martin.
SUPER FLY SNUKA "THE ORIGINAL" (OFF THE TOP OF THE CAGE)
BIG SHOUT OUT TO 'KC" ONE OF THE BEST CHATS BY FAR!!!!!...enjoy the humor and benefit form the knowledge....thanks and if i can get one more question in is AUSTIN gonna be shut down i picked up Williams and im hoping he does he seems to be on the rise...ur thought n thanks again!!!
KC Joyner (4:49 PM)
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!!!! Always wanted to post that, seemed like an apt time to do so. Not sold on Austin (assuming that means Tavon) and if that means Williams as in Terrance Williams, it's a good move.
Giuseppe "Joseph" Argiro (Inventor of the Pepperoni Roll)
The classic pepperoni roll consists of a fairly soft white yeast bread roll with pepperoni baked in the middle. During baking, the fats in the pepperoni (which are hard at room temperature) melt, resulting in a spicy oil suffusing into the bread. Pepperoni rolls are typically eaten as a snack or as the main dish of a lunch either unheated or slightly warmed. Shout out to Wikipedia!Which speculative add do you like better for this week and ROS, Zac Stacy or Mike James?
KC Joyner (4:51 PM)
Awesome post! We should make this an anchor post for the chat. Stacy over James if only because Stacy is more likely to be the bell cow.
what's wrong with Pizza Rolls? (Pizza roll)
Martin dropped in both my leagues, would you drop miller, DHB or MJD for him in one league? and DMC, Mathews in another...if so which ones would you drop?
KC Joyner (4:52 PM)
Nothing wrong with pizza rolls - it's just that pepperoni rolls are the official snack food of the TFS chat. Tough call - would drop MJD for Martin in league one. DMC in league two.
What about us Vegetarians KC (Charlotte)
non ppr flex lacy or bush and Blackmon or Garcon?
KC Joyner (4:53 PM)
Guess we need a veggie option as well. Any suggestions? Bush by a very slight margin over Lacy. Garcon over Blackmon.
Pizza Rolls = Pepperoni Rolls (you know its true...)
Harry Douglas or Justin Blackmon this week? they are ranked so close...
KC Joyner (4:54 PM)
They are cousins but they aren't the same. Put it this way - both are welcome at the meeting! Got Douglas rated higher due to a much more favorable matchup.
Calzone or... (Roll)
Ruths Chris or Mortons for my 40th? L James or Hillis for my RB3?
KC Joyner (4:55 PM)
Would pick Ruth's Chris but really can't go wrong either way. James over Hillis.
Need a kosher option too (Israel)
Flex: Cameron, Stacy or Harvin (if he plays)?
KC Joyner (4:56 PM)
Going to have to get a caterer for this meeting. Hard to trust a player coming back from injury. Would start Cameron.
Upon further review Cowher looks nothing like Sgt. Slaughter (My
I have these guys in a few different leauges - all up for flex consideration. How would you order these fellas?Z. Stacy, M. James, D. Moore, M. Wallace, D. Williams?
KC Joyner (4:57 PM)
Too funny! But have to say their chins are almost identical. Long question, quick answer would be Moore rates highest this week.
Eduardo (Mexico City, Mexico)
Would you try to buy low on Alfred Morris? I have an offer on the table trading R Bush for Andre Johnson and Alfred Morris in a PPR league. I need a good WR because I lost Julio. Would you do this trade?
KC Joyner (4:58 PM)
Would rather be on the Johnson/Morris side of this deal.
Pizza Bagel (Feeling Left Out)
Have J. Graham, J. Thomas, and J. Reed. Okay to roll with Reed ROS and move the other two? What should I look for in return for them?
KC Joyner (4:59 PM)
Great situation. Would roll with Reed ROS and trade Thomas. Don't undersell, as Thomas is worth a borderline WR1/WR2 or a solid RB2.
Mean Gene Okerlund (AWA) (St. Paaul Civic Center (The House That
TFS - Do you think Harvin will be eased into the offense since the Hawks near-term schedule is conducive to wins without him?
KC Joyner (5:00 PM)
Thanks for clarifying - it's the AWA version of Mean Gene. Harvin will likely be eased into the offense.
KC Joyner (5:02 PM)
Thanks to all for a very entertaining chat - it's why 4 PM on Thursday is my favorite time of the week! Couple of quick items before hitting the road. Links to the TFS ESPN Insider articles are always posted on Twitter @KCJoynerTFS. I'll be taking part in an in-game chat for tonight's game so stop by and say hello if you have some time. There will also be a TFS ESPN chat from 11AM-12 noon on Sunday - talking FFB. Thanks again for the awesome chat and I hope to see you all here next week!
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