Chat with Rich Cimini
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Cimini, longtime Jets beat writer for the New York Daily News and a Syracuse University graduate, covers the Jets for ESPNNewYork.com.
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Rich Cimini (2:02 PM)
Hello, everyone. Thanks for checking in on this snowy day. This will be the "Nemo" edition of our Jets chat, so let's get started.
Rich (New Jersey)
Hi Rich, Of the Jets wider receiver on the 2012 team, which ones do you think will be gone before the 2013 season and do the Jets go after Receivers through the Draft or Free Agent Market?
Rich Cimini (2:03 PM)
Holmes, Kerley and Hill will be back. After that, there are no guarantees. I see them chasing a WR in free agency. It won't be one of the top guys, but they need a vet.
Steven [via mobile]
Jets need a pass rusher, do you think they should move up to draft star lotulelei and make Coples a OLB?
Rich Cimini (2:05 PM)
Star is an inside player, not an edge rusher. If he fell to them at 9, unlikely, I'm sure they'd grab him and put him in Po'uha's spot. As for Coples, he's too big to play OLB in this scheme -- or any scheme for that matter.
IRA (Staten Island)
Rich,We all expect Landry to sign with another team but I believe they should be able to sign Bell he will be a lot cheaper. While Bush and Allen will get their shots and I like Jarret they picked up from the Eagles do you think they sign a veteran like Ihedigbo ?
Rich Cimini (2:06 PM)
I like Diggs as a special teamer, but not an every-down safety. I think Bell will be a back-burner guy -- they'll check out the market and the draft. If nothing better comes along, they could re-sign Bell.
Rich, why do you think picking Warmack at 9 is nuts? If he is the BPA why not take him? There is no offensive playmaker worthy of a top 10 pick.
Rich Cimini (2:08 PM)
Maybe "nuts" is a little strong. You take him if he's clearly the best player -- and I mean clearly because it's unconventional to pick a guard that high. I just have to think they'll be a better or equal player there who fills a bigger need.
Would the Jets have any interest in WR Greg Jennings or are they looking elsewhere?
Rich Cimini (2:08 PM)
If there were no salary cap, sure, he'd be ideal. But he's out of their price range.
Angelo (Philadelphia, PA)
With the likely Pace, Scott, Smith cuts, looks like the Jets will be near or under the cap. Who is most likely to restructure to give the Jets room? Mangold, Holmes, Sanchez, someone else?
Rich Cimini (2:10 PM)
Let's be clear: there's a difference between restructuring and taking a pay cut. I believe Mangold will restructure. As I wrote the other day, I wouldn't be surprised if they try to get Holmes to take a pay cut on his $11 mil salary. I think they'll also approach Sanchez about a pay cut, but he has more leverage than Holmes because there's no offset in his contract.
Gianni Ingenio (New Paltz, New York)
what do you think the jets should do about revis? in your honest opinion, what do you thing they will do?
Rich Cimini (2:11 PM)
It's still early, but I think they're strongly considering putting him on the trading block.
PETER JAMES (ABERDEEN, NJ)
Hi Rich-- so how was the experience of watching the Super Bowl as a spectator?
Rich Cimini (2:13 PM)
Mixed feelings. I had covered 23 straight Super Bowls, so naturally I was experiencing some withdrawal.But I have to be honest, it was fun to spend time with my family, hanging out and not working until 2 am.
Bill Simmons was talking last week about how Sanchez has actually had playoff success in his career. Do you think the Jets can still win with him if they get better surrounding players?
Rich Cimini (2:14 PM)
Yes, they can win more than 6 games with him. Can they win it all? I tend to think not. The evidence over the last 2 seasons is damning.
Any chance of Sanchez re-working his contract?
Rich Cimini (2:15 PM)
Sure, there's a chance. Every player on this roster that makes big bucks is a candidate for restructuring or taking a pay cut.
westcoastjetsfan (los angeles)
Do you think Demario Davis showed enough last year to already be named the starter for next year? Don't get me wrong I'm good with getting rid of Bart Scott, but I didn't see Davis making too many plays when he was on the field.
Rich Cimini (2:17 PM)
DD played only about 20 pct of the plays. I think some people in the organization felt Rex was too loyal to Bart, and that DD should've played more. He has the physical tools (speed) but he's not the most instinctive LB around, scouts have told me. Has great intangibles. Mark my words, he'll emerge as a leader this season. It's his job now.
Jim Fields (Casa Grande Arizona)
How can the best QB in college go to the pros, take a loser team on a great run to the playoffs (Denver) and because he is a devout Christian, he becomes poison and according to everyone, he now can't play football or they want to move him to another position, like water boy or defensive center. I'm not a Christian, but I can sure see the blasphemy from the pro football world. He had a better college rating than any pro in the game today!!!!!
Rich Cimini (2:20 PM)
Are you referring to Tebow, by chance? I jest. Look, I like Tim -- I think everybody likes Tim -- but he's not a polished passer. He doesn't have the skill set to operate in a conventional offense. However, the Jets screwed him because they failed to create an offense that could cater to his skills. That's called bad coaching. Good coaches adapt their system to fit the personnel.
Rich, great workPlease explain the Keller situation. If they don't want him, why not franchise him and then trade him, ~ even a late round pick is better than nothing. What's the downside of this approach?
Rich Cimini (2:22 PM)
It's a fair question, Kman, but the problem is, they'd eat up $6 million in cap space until they trade him. I'm not saying it won't happen, but it would be unorthodox. I can't see him bringing back more than a 4th round pick.
Hey Rich, I hope your working from home on a day like today. So I'm curious, what are Jets waiting for with cuts? Are they thinking about asking a guy like Pace (who I like, just not at his current salary) to maybe take a pay cut before cutting him altogether. Wondering what the process is in terms of cutting these guys now that they are able to. I feel like cutting bait as soon as they can would be a show of respect to the player to give them as much time as possible to view their options. As always, great work.
Rich Cimini (2:25 PM)
Thanks, Mike. In some cases, the team tries to re-work the players' contract. With Pace and Scott, there's no chance of that happening. I'm not sure how this became news today because it was reported a month ago that both players would be cut. There's no rush to cut them, as long as they do it by March 12. I don't think either player has a roster bonus, so there's no upcoming deadline other than the start of the league year.
Rob (Bronx, Ny)
The Jets have been unusuallly quiet since the Idzik hiring. Do you think it is by design and the Idzik regime will be less about headlines and more about quality decisions?
Rich Cimini (2:25 PM)
They're thinking. They have a lot of thinking to do.
Joey (Selden, NY)
Rich, do you think we need to resign DeVito even if he commands more money due to his solid run stopping ability? Coples is not a good run stuffer, and Pouha has been hurt and 34 years old. and Ellis is still a question mark. I don't want to see a situation where we finally have a decent pass rush but get gashed by the run.
Rich Cimini (2:26 PM)
You're right, Joey, but the Jets were gashed by the run last year. I'd re-sign DeVito for the reasons you mentioned. Coples isn't ready to be an every-down player, and you can't have too many good DLM. Bottom line is money.
We all expect to see Bart Scott, Calvin Pace, Jason and Eric Smith cut . However what are the chances of renegotiating a David Harris type (want to keep but overpaid) contract to create cap room
Rich Cimini (2:28 PM)
Wouldn't be surprised if they approach Harris, but the credit-card approach is dangerous. Basically, you save now but pay later -- and that will create cap trouble down the road.
Jack (Denton, TX)
Hi Rich, The Jets are trying to trade Tebow. Do you really think there is any possibility they can do that? I just don't see it. There's no market for him, and if some team does have an interest why wouldn't they just wait for the Jets to cut Tebow. They wouldn't have to give anything up and wouldn't be subject to the current terms of Tebow's contract.
Rich Cimini (2:28 PM)
If Idzik can trade Tebow for anything more than a conditional pick, he'd be on his way to executive of the year.
Ghost (Jet Hell)
We are stuck at QB. So we need sign or draft Guards, RB young LBs, free safety, & need to extend or resign Revis, Keller, Landry. Others than the above we are fine!
Rich Cimini (2:29 PM)
Ghost for GM!
Johnny (New York)
Rich nice for ya to take your time but anyways can the Jets trade draft picks to move up to the top 5 to grab a QB or can the Jets can release Mark Sanchez and Holmes the next following year *2014* without losing the cap money?
Rich Cimini (2:31 PM)
There is no QB worth trading up for. Typical Jets luck, right? some misguided team could pick Geno Smith in the top 15, but he's not that good. The Jets could trade down in Round 1 or grab a QB in Round 2, but I'd be stunned if they took one in the top 9.
How soon will the Jets cut Pace, Scott and co?
Rich Cimini (2:32 PM)
Could be any minute. Or it could be a couple of weeks. Believe me, these decisions were made several months ago.
SouthernJet (Raleigh, N.C.)
Rich: Mornhinweg's WCO scheme needs shifty pass catching RBs that can produce YAC to succeed. UNC's RB Gio Bernard is the #1 or 2 RB on all Draft Boards .He's a GREAT punt returner also. Have you heard any Gio chatter from Jets FO/scouts. It's such a obvious fit to both the new scheme and a existing major hole in our Offense (when was last time Jets were a threat to run screens?)
Rich Cimini (2:34 PM)
I sense a little NC bias here, SJ, but I'm with you. I've heard positive things about him, but not specifically from the Jets. I'll get more intel at the combine in a couple of wks, but your description of what they need is on the money.
JD (Suffern, NY)
Just one more, Rich. It seems to me that the Jets lost the upcoming Revis negotiation when they tried to re-set the market price for CBs with Asomugha, who obviously didn't bite. What would give the fans any confidence that they'll pay Revis this time or that he'd accept $12-13 mil/year? Thanks.
Rich Cimini (2:36 PM)
The Jets will gladly make Revis the highest-paid CB at $12-$13M per year, but I think they're philosophically opposed to making him the highest-paid defensive player. Therein lies the issue. We're talking about a difference of $3Mil to $4 mil per year.
Hi Rich (San Diego)
Im curious, in your days covering the Jets have you heard whispers about PED's among the former players? Do the Jets try to police this in any way?.....Thanks!
Rich Cimini (2:37 PM)
The Jets don't have to police it because the league does. I used to hear whispers a lot more in the 80s and 90s. I think it has calmed down, although we'd be naive to think no one is using.
Any chance the Jets don't draft a QB out of this years class? I feel like they would be fine signing Matt Moore then waiting till next years class which will probably have Bridgewater and Logan Thomas form VT
Rich Cimini (2:38 PM)
I see them drafting a QB in the 2nd of 3rd round.
Hey Rich why the delay???.... why haven't the Jets cut Scott/ Pace/ & Smith already, is Idzik waiting on the ok from Woody?
Rich - is it realistic that Holmes will restructure his deal?
Rich Cimini (2:41 PM)
Sorry, I think two questions got punched up. Holmes: Not likely, but he has an offset, meaning if he gets cut, he can't make more than his $7.5 Mil guarantee. If his new team paid him $2 mil, the Jets would owe $5.5 mil. So it might behoove him to take a $2 or $3 mil cut on his $11 mil salary. There's financial motivation for him to stay. Cuts: There's no delay. They've seen sitting on these cuts for months. What's a little longer?
Now that the coaching staff is complete, whats your opinion on the new hires ?
Rich Cimini (2:43 PM)
Good question, Oz. I like Mornhinweg. He knows what he's doing. Thurman will be fine; he'll get help from Rex. I'm puzzled by the David Lee and Tim McDonald hires.
John (Columbus, OH)
Hey Rich - I know there's a new GM, and we're months away from the draft, but how serious do you think the Jets are about taking a RB as high as their 2nd pick? would they trade-up to late first round if Lacey or Ball are still on the board?
Rich Cimini (2:44 PM)
Not sure about the trade up, but it's vital that they come out of this offseason with an upgrade at RB.
Besides Revis, who else can be traded for draft picks??Harris, Holmes or Cro?
Rich Cimini (2:44 PM)
Cro is the most likely candidate out of that group.
R (in CT)
Rich -- in the past 6-7 years, you've gone from covering the Jets for about 6 months a year, maybe a few stories a week, to now where you cover them 24/7. How has this transition been?
Rich Cimini (2:45 PM)
It's not just me, R, it's everybody. Such is the world we live in. It's non-stop.
Mike (Boca Raton)
Rich, The other night I watched tape from when the Jets beat the Pats in Foxboro in the playoffs. Sanchez's downfall since that game has been epic. What do you most contribute it to? Overconfidence entering 2011? Lack of supporting cast? Immaturity? Sparano? You're around him during the season...what's your sense? Thanks!
Rich Cimini (2:49 PM)
Hard to answer in a short amount of space. First of all, when you say "downfall," you make it sound like he was a top-10 QB. That was never the case. In 09 and 10, he was an avg QB who played well in big games. Reasons for decline: Erosion of WRs corps and supporting cast. A lack of direction on offense -- too many conflicting agendas. Tebow's arrival. Sparano's lack of experience with QB development. On Mark's end, a failure to clean up fundamental flaws that have plagued him since his rookie year.
Joe (westchester ny)
would'nt make more sense to trade cromartie and give the money to revis?
Rich Cimini (2:50 PM)
Believe me, there's a segment of the organization that would sign up for that in a second.
Rich - hope this find you well. If the front office determines that there is a QB worth taking in round 1 - would they take one or will they fill other glaring holes thinking they still have a shot to contend with QB on roster or an FA?
Rich Cimini (2:51 PM)
they'd take the QB. If they're convinced they have the right guy in the first round, they'd pull the trigger in a NY minute.
Could Ryan Nassib still be around for the Jets second round pick in your opinion? Could he be a WCO fit?
Rich Cimini (2:52 PM)
Nassib is a second-round talent, but I get the impression he won't last that long. Because of the supply and demand at QB, I see him sneaking into the first.
Michael ( Castello)
Should the Jets think about signing a guy like Bradshaw or another RB who has been or will be released?
Rich Cimini (2:52 PM)
Yes, they should think about RBs, but I don't think it'll be Bradshaw. Too injury-prone.
Tim (Brea, CA)
Rich - always appreciate your work. Keep up the "honest" reporting. While we know management would never say it - are you getting the feeling that Idzik is in "rebuilding mode" or do they honestly think they are a contender in 2013?
Rich Cimini (2:54 PM)
Thanks, Tim. They'll never say "rebuilding," but we know what the deal is. They're in a transition phase. In my book, that's called rebuilding.
Rich, is there any chance the jets take alec ogletree at 9 even though demario davis is expected to start?
Rich Cimini (2:54 PM)
don't see that happening.
R (in CT)
Rich -- I know it's early, but what would you say the ideal scenario would be for the Jets to come away with from the draft?
Rich Cimini (2:56 PM)
At the risky of being snarky, I'd say the next Russell Wilson or Von Miller.
True or False - By trading Tebow, The JETS would create more cap space than cutting him outright?
Rich Cimini (2:57 PM)
He has a complicated contract, Buck, so it would take me a few minutes to figure it out, but my initial thought is it won't make a difference because the Jets never paid him a signing bonus. Therefore, no pro-ration on the cap.
Rich, kind of an awkward question but do you think it would be a good idea to bring in Superman (Vernon Gholston) for a tryout? We're weak at the pass rush and it couldn't hurt right? Reward higher than risk?
Rich Cimini (2:59 PM)
Ryan, let me quote Parcells on this one: How many times do you need to get hit in the face with a skunk because you realize it stinks?Does that answer your question?
Chris Fiegler (Latham,NY)
What does the New York Jets Need to Address in the 2013 NFL Draft?
Rich Cimini (3:00 PM)
Top needs, as I see them: OLB/pass rusher, RB, QB, WR, S, G.
With Moore and Slauson hitting the market. What are the Jets plans on replacing them?
Rich Cimini (3:01 PM)
Dare I say, Schlauderaff? No, only kidding.
Gianni (New Paltz, New York)
even though Reggie bush hates us, is he a legit possibility for the jets?
Rich Cimini (3:02 PM)
Money can make hate go away (see Jason Taylor). In this case, the Jets don't have enough $$ to entice Bush.
IRA (Staten Island)
Rich, Revis will not be a Jet this year and the Jets will draft a CB maybe D. Trufant. If they land him and Isiiah comes back and Idzik sign Marcus who is a free agent from Sea the Jets potentially could have a all Trufant secondary besides Cro. Only the Jets right?
Rich Cimini (3:03 PM)
Interesting point, Ira. I think Marcus is a nickel at this point in his career. Too bad about Isaiah; he was coming on when he got hurt.
SouthernJet (Raleigh, N.C.)
Rich: In your opinion will we see Idzik make a philosophical 'shift statement' in Draft? i.e move away from use your #1 and maybe even trade up aka Tanny, or will we see some trade down, aka accumulating picks? LongTerm vs ShortTerm. I would like to move out of 9 and accumulate picks (2103 or 14) and use our 2nd round pick on UNC RB Gio Bernard .
Rich Cimini (3:04 PM)
Good point. Tanny was always a quality over quantity -- although the quality, at times, left a lot to be desired. Idzik needs to take the opposite approach. Many holes to fill and the most cost-effective way to do that is the draft.
Rich Cimini (3:05 PM)
Well, that's a wrap, folks. Thanks for the questions -- top notch as always. I bet Ohm doesn't get these kind of questions in the Giants chats. LOL. Anyway, please stay safe during this storm and we'll chat next week. Rich