Chat with Rich Cimini
Welcome to SportsNation! On Thursday, ESPNNewYork.com writer Rich Cimini stops by to chat about the Jets.
Cimini, longtime Jets beat writer for the New York Daily News and a Syracuse University graduate, covers the Jets for ESPNNewYork.com.
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Rich Cimini (2:02 PM)
Hello, everyone. Thanks for dropping in on a Thursday -- a tweak in this week's sked. Let's get started.
IRA (Staten Island)
Rich,No way they go into the season with Woodson,Powell and McKnight. I feel they will draft a RB. If Lacey is on the board and the Jets have a late 1 st rd pick would you pick him? I know you love the kid from Stony Brook.
Rich Cimini (2:05 PM)
You mean Goodson, of course. Let me go on record right now as saying that I absolutely will refer to him as "Woodson" in a tweet or a story. Just a mental block. Anyway, I think they're willing to go with Goodson, Powell and McKnight, but wouldn't look the other way if an upgrade comes along -- maybe Bradshaw, if he lowers his price. Don't think they'd pick Lacy.
Darsh (University Park/ New Haven)
Hi rich, happy Tebow-versary. Things really seem to have slowed down recently, do you see the Jets signing any more free agents before the draft? I think we could still use a veteran safety i.e. Dawan Landry and possibly a good depth receiver i.e. Heyward-Bey.
Rich Cimini (2:06 PM)
Happy Tebow Day to you, too. Yes, they will sign more FAs. The market has bottomed out and now Idzik will try to find value. Landry a possibility. Not sure about DHB.
if an nfl organization were to higher you, in what position would you be most successful (front office, coaching, scouting, etc.)?
Rich Cimini (2:08 PM)
This is an original question. Good one, Jeremy. I think I'd work in public relations, dealing with media types like myself.
Al Lesniak (Rahway, Nj)
With the current QB's we have on the depth as of now. Who do you feel who would take the first snap of week 1, and would it benefit the jets for this season?
Rich Cimini (2:09 PM)
Right now, I think the favorite is Sanchez. He has the most talent of the bunch. Garrard is very good intangibles and doesn't lose games (i.e. turnovers), but health is the key and he's been away two yrs. That's tough.
hi rich, if and when a revis trade goes through what are your thoughts on the jets taking a 2014 first round pick - plus a couple of 2013 picks of course - and Idzik making a play for a franchise quarterback in next years draft, with two first round picks it may make it easier to secure one, you can't fully rebuild till you know who your quarterback is and this years draft class is full of question marks!
Rich Cimini (2:11 PM)
Excellent point, Brendan. They may want to wait until next year to find a QB because this year's crop is suspect. The downside: If TB has a good year, you're looking at a low 1 in '14. I think you'll see a combo of '13 and '14 picks, maybe a player, too.
Congrats on Cuse big win. Any rumblings about Heyward-Bey? Is there a better veteran receiver out there that would fit in West coast offense? Jets cannot afford to ignore depth here again this year with Holmes injury and Hill's inexperience.
Rich Cimini (2:13 PM)
They definitely need another WR, especially with Holmes coming off foot surgery. Don't think DHB fits a West Coast offense; he's just a vertical threat. But he has speed, and the Jets have placed an emphasis on upgrading the speed. Wouldn't be shocked if they take a WR at 9 -- Patterson or Tavon Austin.
Marco (Bloomfield, NY)
Rich - Your work is appreciated! Do you honestly think the Jets can get a 1 and a 3 for Revis? They don't want to pay him and he'll leave for nothing after the year. They don't seem to be in a position of strength. A very tough spot for Idzik....
Rich Cimini (2:17 PM)
Thanks, Marco.It is a tricky spot for Idzik, but he controls the asset, not the Bucs. The Bucs have a glaring need and it sounds like they're willing to fork over a No. 1. Frankly, I'm surprised they'd give up that much for damaged goods. Ultimately, he will be traded. just a matter of when.
the nose tackle from utah worked out well yesterday. will the jets take a look at no.#9 giving them a young d-line with 3 number ones across the board?
Rich Cimini (2:18 PM)
I'd be surprised if they pick Star. They've gone DL the last two years in the first round.
Bill H (Hoboken)
Hi Rich - from what I've read so far, sources/agents etc around the league generally seem to speak highly of Idzik, as a steadying influence, strong negotiator etc, which I would agree with from gauging the last month. The second half of the equation, though, will be rebuilding the team with the right players. Have you heard any chatter around the league as to whether people think he can excel here as well? Or is there less confidence? Thanks Rich!
Rich Cimini (2:21 PM)
Good observatons, Bill. Yes, a lot of people think highly of Idzik. The question is talent evaluation. Right now, it's the same scouting dept and same front office in place. Ultimately, Idzik will make the call. Personnel isn't his background. Remains a question.
Tim (Fullerton, CA)
Rich - always a pleasure! Can you shed some insight as to why Terry Bradway is still with this team? If Tannebaum & Idzik are both "cap guys" and less "talent guys" - am I safe to assume that talent evaluations have been under Bradway's purview since 2001? And if lack of home gorwn talent is the issue - then why is he still in any capacity with the team to make those decisions?
Rich Cimini (2:23 PM)
Fair question, Tim. Terry is well regarded as a scout and he will have considerable input into the draft. You may have noticed he's hitting a lot of the big pro days. Last year, Terry wanted to draft Russell Wilson, but no one listed. I think Idzik will evaluate the entire operation after the draft. That's how these things usually work.
Have you heard anything about the Jets trading up/down in the first round?
Rich Cimini (2:24 PM)
No, but I'd be shocked if they trade up. If anything, they'd move down.
AJ (Port Jefferson, NY)
Rich, great job. Do you think Rex is a goner for sure next year? The media seems to think so. I'm not so sure. He's put together a good coaching staff, why turn that upside down and start over? Rex has had some great moments and bad moments, but he's a good coach.
Rich Cimini (2:26 PM)
He's not a goner for sure, but the odds of him staying aren't great. If they go 6-10 again, he'll be cleaning out his desk. But what if they improve to 8-8 or 9-7? Let's give the man a chance before we bury him.
With '13 being a QB light draft, doesn't it make sense for the Jets to trade Revis for a '14 1st rounder? Gives them an extra trade chip in case they need to move up like the Redskins did last year. Also, considering Jets are likely to have a new head coach next year, he can have a say in it, rather than Rex.
Rich Cimini (2:27 PM)
Those are very good points, Pete. I can't disagree with any of them.
Do you think Idzik is looking ahead to 2014 at all? Aside from the Revis trade, he seems to be getting a bunch of hold the fort type guys. Will 2014 be his true "rebuild" year?
Rich Cimini (2:28 PM)
Boom! He's definitely looking ahead to '14 and '15. These are all stop-gap players he has signed; none guaranteed to be here more than a year.
Please list the 5 players thay you would like the Jets to draft in order...
Rich Cimini (2:31 PM)
I think the players they should strongly consider are: Jordan, Patterson, Jarvis Jones, Austin and Mingo. I need more info on Mingo, though.
Michael K (Red Bank, NJ)
Hey Rich, How do you see the Jets addressing the S position going forward? If the season started today, Josh Bush-Antonio Allen-Jaiquawn Jarrett would be the top 3 safeties on the depth chart.
Rich Cimini (2:32 PM)
yeah, scary, isn't it? I think they could end up with D. Landry. They'll draft one, too. Anywhere from round 2 to 4.
any possible idea where tebow might be playing for the 2013 season?
Rich Cimini (2:32 PM)
Wow, that's a tough one. I've had people around the league tell me he'd fit best in SF. But I don't know if SF is interested.
Hi Rich, I'm sure a lot of it was posturing, but is there any chance Revis would get extended ? A report said that Tampa was willing to give him 11-12 million a year which is pretty much what he averaged on the Jets isn't it. And trading actually makes the cap hit worse for this season. And apparently Idzik has spoken with his agents, contrary to all the prior reports. And finally, another report says Tampa is willing to trade this year's first. If all of that is true, is it a still a foregone conclusion that he's gone ?
Rich Cimini (2:35 PM)
I think he's a goner. Woody Johnson is philosophically opposed to giving more than $12M a year to a non-QB. And I think he's tired of dealing with Revis' agents. My gut tells me he'll be traded before the draft.
steve reynolds (new york)
Rich, why are your columns mostly negative about the Jets?
Rich Cimini (2:35 PM)
Maybe because they were 6-10 last season.
Angelo (Philadelphia, PA)
Just saw a report that the Jets may be willing to get Tampa's 1st and 3rd rounder in this year's draft or a 1st and 2nd rounder in next year's. How accurate is that? And if it is, how quickly does Idzik jump on that offer?
Rich Cimini (2:36 PM)
I'm not sure about the accuracy. I have a feeling I know where it's coming from, and there's a definite agenda. When it happens, it happens.
MJ (New York, NY)
Rich,Even after the owner's meeting why are things so unclear with the Jets and this Revis saga? I know there's smokescreens and such at every turn, but now we hear that there's even an internal agreement on a 12-13 million contract!!!. Is it possible that even with today's media access, both the Jets and Bucs have secretly come to an understanding and want the trade, contract, etc.. all to be finished before breaking news is released?
Rich Cimini (2:38 PM)
I wouldn't put too much stock in the contract numbers, although as I've been writing for days, you'd have to be naive to think Revis' agents and the Bucs don't have a tacit understanding on a new contract. In the NFL, things get done on deadline. The deadline is April 25 -- draft day.
When will a Revis trade go down? There really any chance he stays with the team?
Rich Cimini (2:39 PM)
I don't see a scenario where he stays.
Mickey Braciole (Long Island)
Just wanted to let you know I love your chats; you always give your honest opinion and your one of the only jets beat writers I actually trust and feel like doesn't try to throw the team under the bus. This question is in regards to the draft. The Jets need a 3-4 OLB in the baddest way. Which player in this draft at #9 or later in the draft has the best chance to be an immediate starter and be an everydown LB(not situational pass rusher) for this team next season? Great job again Rich! Truly appreciate your work!
Rich Cimini (2:42 PM)
Appreciate the kind words, Mickey. I think Jordan would be the best pick, but I don't think he'd be an every-down OLB as a rookie. Needs to bulk up. Same with Mingo, who I see as a Bruce Irvin type. I'll be honest, I haven't researched the second tier of OLBs -- yet.
Hi Rich. Will the free agent contracts awarded to corner backs lower Revis' price? Do you think he can earn $15-16 million per year in this market whether from the Bucs or elsewhere? It seems insane that the Jets would trade arguably the best player in their history if the contract demands have decreased. I have always hated how Revis and his agents have dealt with money, but as a PSL holder, I am watching this with great interest as to how Woody invests in the product on the field. With a healthy Revis, I think the defense can keep the 2013 season interesting. Thanks and keep up the great work.
Rich Cimini (2:44 PM)
Thanks, David. There is no chance Revis gets $16M a year. If the Bucs give him anything close to that, they're nuts. However, contract numbers can be deceiving. The "real" money is the guarantee and the payout over the first 3 years. Oddly enough, Revis is more concerned with annual avg than guarantee. So, yeah, I suppose they can artificially inflate the APY to make it seem like Revis got what he wanted.
Hey Rich, if the Jets sign Kolb, does that prevent them from Drafting a QB? There is no way they can go into camp with Sanchez, Kolb, Garrard, a drafted QB, Greg McElroy and Matt Simms right?
Rich Cimini (2:47 PM)
You're right, it would be a circus. Of course, the Jets likes circuses, right? But, seriously, you can't have a legit competition with 4 QBs. Even 3 is very difficult. I think they'll stick with the current group through the draft. If they don't draft a QB, they can always add Kolb later. He knows the system; he could afford to miss the early part of the off-season program.
Joey (Selden, NY)
Rich , you say we are 12m under, does that include the draft and carryover money for the new year and the Revis cap hit of 1m? Also we will be responsible for a 53 man roster as opposed to 51 now at the start of the season and the practice squad which is another 1-2m. Thanks!
Rich Cimini (2:48 PM)
The $12M, which is approximate, doesn't include the draft. They'll always need an extra $4M to absorb the Revis cap hit.
Bill H (Hoboken)
I read the Jets were showing possible interest in Cordarelle Patterson. Regardless of their intentions, what is the Jets brain trust's take on Stephen Hill? Do they see him developing into something formidable in the next year or two?
Rich Cimini (2:49 PM)
They had a very high grade on Hill and they still believe in him. But let's be real: Holmes will be gone in a year and Kerley isn't an every-down WR.
What are the chances the Jets can draft EJ Manuel with our second or third choice?
Rich Cimini (2:50 PM)
Manuel's stock is soaring. There's no chance he lasts until 39. I expect him to go in the bottom of the first.
How bad was Mike T, in retrospect? Seems Jets are in a world of trouble.
Rich Cimini (2:51 PM)
Like a lot of things in NY, the cap situation was blown out of proportion. Is it ideal? No, but they're in fairly decent shape now -- better than the Giants, in fact.
Hi Rich, the Jets are obviously rebuilding and have almost no offensive weapons so why not keep Tebow and make hime part of the offense. He's still cheap to keep.
Rich Cimini (2:52 PM)
Listen to yourself, Joe. Cheap? Sure, he's cheap. But he's also not that good.
Joey (Selden, NY)
Rich, do you think they gave Howard a bonus because he still has not signed his tender? Also, Cumby is not signed yet.
Rich Cimini (2:54 PM)
That performance-based bonus doesn't come from the jets. It's part of the CBA, which rewards players (usually low-salary guys) that play a lot. It's not Woody Johnson money and it doesn't count on the cap.
Scot (Washington, DC )
I'm all in on John Idzik. Ridiculously premature but isn't he very close to Gruden? If Rex is let go after this season, as seems likely today, do you think Chucky could be be on our sideline in 2014? Hiring him would make the proverbial Jets splash.
Rich Cimini (2:56 PM)
He worked with Gruden, but Gruden also dumped him when he re-made the entire TB front office. FWIW: Idzik and Dungy are very close. Hmm. If he fires Rex, the guy to look out for is Sea OC Darrell Bevell.
Scot (Washington, DC )
Rich, everyone keeps talking about the Jets' lack of leverage vis-a-vis Revis, but isn't it in Revis's best interest to be traded now, with a deal in place, rather than enter free agency next year? Yes, the Jets would lose him for only a conditional third-rounder (maybe) but does he really want to play 16 games without a deal for next year?
Rich Cimini (2:58 PM)
Great point, Scot. Revis doesn't want to play the RS under his current contract, which is $3M in base pay. The injury risk is too great, as he learned the hard way.
Hi Rich, Really great column. What is Marty Morinwheg's reputation in the NFL? Was he a candidate for any other offensive coordinator openings prior to taking that job with the Jets?
Rich Cimini (2:59 PM)
Don't think he was a candidate elsewhere. He and Reid decided to go their separate ways, much like Rex and Pettine. He has a good offensive mind and works through the eyes of the QB, which will help the Jets.
Harry (Babylon, NY)
Rich - all of the posturing coming from the Jets, TB and the Revis camp makes it hard to root or support any side. If everything breaks down and Revis ends up staying with the Jets is that the worst possible outcome for all involved?
Rich Cimini (3:00 PM)
The Jets will say no, that they'd love to have him on the team, but let's be real: that ain't happening. They'll trade him
Joe (Brooklyn, NY)
Rich,Regarding a recent article that states Revis would probably accept 12/13 million on a contract with the Bucs and also the estimated value of picks needed to trade for him, why haven't any other clubs gotten involved to start a bidding war? Now everyone knows that don't have to pay him 15-16 million a year, they can get away with only 12-13 million a year!!!
Rich Cimini (3:01 PM)
Only $12M? dude, have you seen the recent CB contracts? Guys are getting only $6 M per year.
Arlene (Puerto Rico)
Hey Rich, Love your column. Is too much being made about he loss of Bart Scott, Calvin Pace, and Sione Pouha? After all, the best players on that defense will probably be Coples and Wilkerson (obviously Revis if he stays). With Rex's defensive schemes, isn't it probable that the Jets defense stays in the top 10?
Rich Cimini (3:02 PM)
Too early to say; still some holes to fill. The one loss that hurts them was Landry.
Rich Cimini (3:03 PM)
Sorry, guys, I'm out of time. Sorry I couldn't get to all the questions, but we had close to 200. Good stuff, as always. We'll do it again next week. In the meantime, enjoy the Tebow-versary. lol. Take care, Rich