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1. Is Philip Rivers better than the guys with rings?

Eli Manning took a proverbial punch to the gut with an ill-timed fumble against the Eagles. Ben Roethlisberger took a less proverbial punch to the face against the Steelers. And Philip Rivers? He keeps delivering blows, this time leading the Chargers past the Broncos. But which product of the 2004 draft is the best QB? Power Rankings.

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1. How hard should the NFL hand of justice "slap" Richard Seymour?

This probably wasn't the kind of hit to the head the NFL envisioned disciplining. Richard Seymour decked Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger after the latter threw a touchdown pass and moved in the direction of the veteran defensive tackle. Does Seymour's ejection suffice as punishment, or is a suspension warranted?

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Who knew the Bengals would be the model of stability in the AFC North? Chad Ochocinco and Terrell Owens seem to be getting along just fine -- they're launching a combined reality show, in fact -- and the preseason offered little in the way of headlines.

The rest of the division? Well, that's where it gets interesting.

The Ravens made a splash Monday by adding T.J. Houshmandzadeh to a depth chart that already includes Anquan Boldin, Derrick Mason and Donte' Stallworth. The Browns are dealing with Montario Hardesty's season-ending knee injury and the Steelers are turning to third-stringers from Oregon at quarterback (thankfully for the city's fans, Dennis Dixon and not Akili Smith or Joey Harrington).

Kevin (OH)

JW, love the blog...who's been the biggest surprise (or disappointment) in the preason?

AFC North blogger James Walker
James Walker

Browns QB Jake Delhomme has played very efficient football. I don't think the Browns could ask for a better preseason. They just need it to continue. Full transcript

Ricky (Cincinnati)

With Greshaim and Shipley, How would you rate the Bengals draft and where do you see them finishing the season?

Mel Kiper
Mel Kiper

I gave them a B grade the same day of the draft. That was my gut reaction. I think that's about right. Gresham is talented if he stays healthy. Shipley is quick. Not fast, but quick. He can return some kicks. He's a football player. The solid B is about right. The offense can be helped by them. As far as the season, I think the Ravens are the clear cut favorite to win and the Bengals are vying for that second spot. The Bengals will be in the mix for a wild card. Full transcript

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We know Ben Roethlisberger will be back on the field in the NFL, which is a nice change of pace from the other big quarterback-related story of the week (no, not the Redskins releasing Colt Brennan). We just don't know yet if we'll see Roethlisberger in a Steelers uniform before we'll see LeBron James in a Miami Heat uniform.

NFL commissioner says it's still to be determined if Roethlisberger's six-game suspension will be shortened to the minimum four games, but in also saying the Steelers quarterback has done more than asked of him at the time of his suspension in April, Goodell sure seems to be laying the groundwork for an early return. All of that on top of a warm welcome for Roethlisberger at training camp.

Not quite four months ago, 56 percent of SportsNation -- including 58 percent of voters in Pennsylvania -- said Roethlisberger had tarnished the Steelers franchise with his actions. Whenever he plays, has he already reclaimed his place as franchise cornerstone?

floridasteeler

I am by every definition of the word a fanatic when it comes to Pittsburgh sports, and the Steelers in particular. (When my wife couldn't be talked into naming our girl/boy twins Sydney and Crosby in February, I managed to talk her into Sydney and Bradshaw.) But having said that, Ben got no leeway from me when it all went down. I was, and am, thoroughly disgusted by what I perceive to be his distasteful actions. ... The 6 games will be reduced to 4 for showing he understands he needs to stop being an idiot, which he is doing. But to say that he deserves more than the other CONVICTED offenders in the league...hogwash.

-- FloridaSteeler
jiro32

... I am not a fan of his nor will I be applauding him for "rising above" his mistakes. He should have realized by now how a man should behave. Most people would have been ruined by these repeated mistakes/accusations and Ben has gotten a free pass due to football. Kinda sad.

-- jiro32

Eric (Cali)

Do you think its that big a deal that Ben is out 4 to 6 weeks when steelers like to win by the D keeping it close anyways? Reed is a good kicker and as long as they play good D and pound the ball I think they will be just fine.

AFC North blogger James Walker
James Walker

I'm really surprised by the degree Steeler Nation has dismissed Ben Roethlisberger's importance to the team. Are we watching the same games? Roethlisberger is a great QB. Full transcript

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Despite Jay Cutler and Donovan McNabb changing teams in recent years, franchise quarterbacks in their prime don't get traded very often in the NFL. In fact, to find a quarterback with multiple Super Bowl rings who was traded with any miles left on the tires, you pretty much begin and end with Joe Montana. And Montana wasn't exactly in the prime of his career when the Chiefs gave him a last hurrah.

So to hear Adam Schefter report that the Steelers may be exploring trade options involving Ben Roethlisberger? Well, that just about sums up where things stand for a quarterback who voters suggest has replaced Michael Vick as a toxic commodity.

When SportsNation ranked NFL quarterbacks a little more than a month ago, only four quarterbacks improved more than two spots from where voters ranked them toward the end of last season. Two are young guys, Mark Sanchez and Matthew Stafford, who it makes sense to imagine will improve. Another is Jay Cutler, who frankly, couldn't be any worse than he was last season. The fourth guy SportsNation liked much more in March than they had in December? Roethlisberger, who voters ranked No. 7 overall. So what toll has the last month taken on his on-field stock? Rank 'Em

Robert (Latrobe, PA)

Rumor is now that the Steelers are contacting teams about a Roethlisberger trade. What is the fair market value, even with his off-field issues? I would think if Cutler could bring in two firsts, a third, and a starting QB, Roethlisberger would command something similar, even with his issues.

Scouts Inc.'s Matt Williamson
Matt Williamson

I tend to lean towards what you said too, but it sounds like Ben will be suspended 4 to 6 games this year-that doesn't help his immediate value! Still, I seem to be in the minority though and most tend to think that PGH won't get nearly that much -- which, in the end, probably means that he stays. It wasn't like Cutler was a Saint though -- he had his critics with off the field behavior and wasn't nearly the winner that Ben is. Frankly, Ben is just a better player -- and is still very young. Could get 8 to 10 years of him as your starting QB. That Raiders' offense would be quite strong with No. 7 added to it. Full transcript

stanberd22

[A] top ten pick in the draft would be amazing. So you lose a franchise quarterback, big deal. BR will never be Bradshaw and will continue to be a liability for the Steeler's impeccable pedigree.

-- stanberd22
frozen_in_time

Rebuilding time. Leftwich can lead this team to a 9-7 record. We may miss the playoffs but McCoy or whomever they draft will be learning.

-- Frozen_In_Time

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With two Super Bowl rings before he turned 27 years old, Ben Roethlisberger wasted little time putting his name in the debate about the greatest players in the history of one of the NFL's greatest franchises. And while he's still in that debate, he's also apparently thrown his name in the ring as the greatest embarrassment in franchise history.

Yahoo Sports reported Monday morning that NFL commissioner Roger Goodell will announce today or tomorrow that he has suspended Roethlisberger. Adam Schefter told "Mike and Mike" that while he couldn't confirm the timing of the announcement, Roethlisberger would be suspended multiple games whenever Goodell did speak [Update: Roethlisberger was suspended Wednesday for four to six games by the NFL, conditional on his behavior].

So has Roethlisberger tarnished merely his own reputation or that of the entire franchise? Steelers president Dan Rooney has hardly been effusive in standing behind the quarterback, but the team appears ready to line up around him moving forward.

Mark Zabierek (Heinz Field Parking Lot C)

Will Ben Roethliesberger still be a Steeler when training camp opens in July?

Scouts Inc.'s Matt Williamson
Matt Williamson

Yes. For two simple reasons: Money and he is an exceptional football player. Well three reasons, he is a quarterback -- an elite quarterback. Full transcript

bigblore79

big ben should without a doubt be suspended for the entire 2010 season. he has made the league look foolish time and time again. i know i will never pull for the steelers as long as they have #7 at QB

-- BigBlore79
jiro32

I don't get it...if he wasn't arrested, and there are no charges, then why could he face a possible suspension?

-- jiro32

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All things being equal, we'd greatly prefer another summer of people standing on Brett Favre's lawn to this.

There's nothing about the Ben Roethlisberger situation that's enjoyable to discuss, but here's what we know about the guy SportsNation ranked as the NFL's No. 10 quarterback just four months ago. Roethlisberger will not face charges relating to the much-discussed alleged nightclub incident in Georgia. The quarterback read a brief public statement in which he said he wanted to put the incident behind him. But that reportedly won't happen until he first meets with NFL commissioner Roger Goodell.

So the questions now are will Goodell discipline Roethlisberger despite the lack of criminal charges, and strictly from a football perspective, has Roethlisberger's on-field stock taken a hit despite not playing a game? Rank the top quarterbacks.

SprungOnSports (Long Island)

With Santonio Holmes out in Pittsburgh, do you think Ben Roethlisberger is next? The Rooney family always puts character before winning.

Gary Horton
Gary Horton

I don't think so. Holmes is a little different than your QB. I think if Big Ben is cleared today of the charges in Georgia, like we've heard, that's good for him, but I still think from the organization's standpoint, the disappointment continues in the fact that he puts himself into these situations. My guess is that the front office will make it very clear to Big Ben to clean up his act. I believe that he will. I think we'll get past this with him. Full transcript

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It's not a good morning to be Ben Roethlisberger. You just got beat by Brady Quinn, a quarterback who completed six passes in 60 minutes of football (granted, that's three times as many passes as Derek Anderson completed in the Browns' only other win this season). Your team scored a grand total of six points against the Browns, a team that gave up 38 points to the Lions less than three weeks ago.

And according to common sense and 90 percent of SportsNation, your team is done.

All of four months ago, here's how SportsNation sized up the quarterback class of 2004.

And after the Steelers lost to the Chiefs, Raiders and Browns in the last month? Well, vote at the end of the post and see for yourself. It's not pretty for Big Ben.

matt (florida)

what do u think about the san diego chargers, phillip rivers really starting to come tru

Matt Williamson
Matt Williamson

He's awesome. Elite QB. Great player. In his prime. Fantastic deep passer. Very good feeling for coverages. Intelligent. Competitive. Moves well in the pocket. Good-underrated-arm. Very quick release. Extremely productive. One of the best in the business and very rarely has a down day -- comes at you every week. Full transcript

Bobby (Seattle)

Big Ben seems like an easy target in the pocket, standing upright like a frozen otter pop, is it because he is so strong he can shake off would be tacklers??

Matt Wiiliamson
Matt Williamson

What's an otter pop? I am from the Burgh as well-never heard of that. I couldn't disagree more though. He is incredibly strong in both his upper and lower body and can shrug off D-linemen, but he also is very mobile -- especially for such a big man. Has a good feel for pressure as well. Of course he takes a lot of sacks still, but that stems from him wanting to hold the ball extra long to make a play for his team. Full transcript

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Should we offer a moment of silence for fantasy football owners coming to the realization that Saints safety Darren Sharper has scored more touchdowns this season than Steven Jackson, Brandon Jacobs or Anquan Boldin?

The Saints are just outside the top 10 in total defense at the moment, which is kind of remarkable when you think about how often their opponents have the whole field to work with after yet another Saints touchdown and yet another Saints kickoff. Sharper may not be the sole reason for the success, given that he shares the field with guys like Charles Grant and Jonathan Vilma, but as a newcomer with a league-best six interceptions and three touchdowns, he's becoming the face of it.

When push comes to shove, 67 percent of SportsNation prefers a great defense to a great offense. But are you ready to give a guy like Sharper MVP consideration?

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Why didn't AIG have this kind of foresight? As recounted in the Wall Street Journal, Fantasy Sports Insurance launched this year to offer fantasy football owners some peace of mind on their high-dollar investments. Drafted Adrian Peterson but worried about an injury ruining your season? Buy insurance on him and recoup your league fees if he gets hurt (although in Peterson's case, based on his chat with SportsNation, Frank Gore insurance would have been a better investment).

One of the only 50 stars the company offered to insure? Cedric Benson. The same guy who averaged 3.5 yards per carry last season while rushing for a career "best" 747 yards. Forget insurance; we're going to these guys for our draft cheat sheet next year.

Thanks in no small part to Benson, who has 487 rushing yards in five games, the Bengals are 4-1. But does that make him a better MVP pick than Carson Palmer, let alone Peterson, Drew Brees, Peyton Manning or other standouts?

Where do Benson and Palmer rank on your MVP ballot?

Scott (Bakersfield, CA)

Which offseason add has helped their team more Dawkins or Sharper?

Gary Horton
Gary Horton

That's almost a push. They are both great veteran players with tremendous leadership skills. Your first inclination might be to say Sharper because of his big plays and his instincts. He can turn around a game with those interceptions. My sources in Denver tell me Dawkins is like another coach on the field and is a huge part of the speed in which Denver has made the transition from a 43 to a 34. That may not show up in the box score, but it is a big factor in their success. Full transcript.

Random (Dude)

DO u have yourself on your fantasy team?

Adrian Peterson
Adrian Peterson

Nope. Frank Gore. And Matt Forte. Full transcript.

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