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It's a dark day for baseball fans in Kansas City. Their worst fears realized, they must now confront a bleak future. That's right; ace Zack Greinke won the American League Cy Young.

So who wants to help him pack?

Greinke's win, the first for an AL starting pitcher with as few as 16 wins (thanks, Royals offense!) since Kansas City's David Cone won in the abbreviated 1994 season, might seem like good news for fans who haven't had much to celebrate. But a quick look at history suggests Greinke may not be long for the Midwest. Three years ago, Johan Santana won with the Twins and soon thereafter departed for greener pastures in New York. Ditto CC Sabathia and Cliff Lee, the 2007 and 2008 AL Cy Young winners, respectively, who now play in big markets.

So how long until Greinke is in pinstripes?

Jay ((AZ))

Greinke was a 9.4 WAR players this year! (Imagine how bad the Royals would have been without him...) What are the chances he'll duplicate this season next year or in following seasons?

Rob Neyer

I think it's unlikely that he'll have another season like this one, because even the best pitchers rarely do. I do think he'll have other great, Cy Young-type seasons. Full transcript

We know baseball's regular season is a marathon, and one win in April equals one win in September. But when your team is coming to the finish line after running its metaphorical 26 miles, it has to feel good to have someone who can kick the guy behind you in the shins.

Justin Verlander was that guy Tuesday, kicking the Twins and their playoff hopes squarely where it hurts, but does one clutch performance when the Tigers needed it most put him in the thick of the AL Cy Young race?

With his team in danger of waking up this morning tied for first in the AL Central, Verlander beat the Twins and improved to 18-9 with a 3.45 ERA this season. CC Sabathia has 19 wins, Felix Hernandez has the same number of wins and a better ERA and Zack Greinke has fewer wins but the best ERA of all. But Verlander had the spotlight Tuesday night.

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Justin for Cy Young. Coming through in a pennant race is normally significant. Zach and Felix aren't pitching for much at this point.

” -- GNewsomII

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You should really go see Greinke pitch. If you haven't yet, it's really something. Plus it's cool that the dude is just a total space cadet.

” -- michissouri10

• Vote: Who gets your support for Cy Young and MVP in each league?

Sure, Zack Greinke isn't going to get to 20 wins. But the guy made a late September game against the Red Sox meaningful -- for the Royals. That's downright superhuman. Greinke's six shutout innings earned him win No. 15. Only 23 percent of SportsNation thought he had the Cy Young wrapped up before that effort, but another 34 percent -- more than enough to push him over the top -- thought last night clinched it.

When it comes to MVP, Albert Pujols' grip on the award makes "Mad Men" envious, but the AL race still has some intrigue. Most people seem to think it's down to Joe Mauer and Derek Jeter, but SportsNation blogger brianRuberti -- a Yankees fan, no less -- has Jeter fifth, Mauer second and another time at the top of his ballot.

• "If Miguel Cabrera wasn't in that lineup every night, do you thing that Minnesota would only be 2 games back? Try being 5 games up instead. He does it all in run production, and having a .994 fielding percentage doesn't hurt either." -- read the full post.

Darrell (Tennessee)

Please tell me that my Mariners King Felix will win the Cy Young. I'm tired of hearing about CC cause he plays in New York, this is a two horse race between Felix and Grienke.

Rob Neyer

You're not hearing about CC because he plays in New York. Well, maybe a little bit. But w/r/t to the Cy Young, you're hearing about him mostly because he's got a shot at winning 20 games; in fact he's the only pitcher who's got a shot at winning 20 games. Voters have always liked 20-game winners, and some of them still do. Full transcript

Nora (St. Louis)

Carpenter has given up 4 or more runs in a start only once. Lincecum has done that five times. I know Lincecum strikes everyone out, but Carp's only really had the one bad start. He's been so good so consistently.

Buster Olney

Nora: And Carpenter has made fewer starts, too, because of that early-season injury. But believe me, I'm not saying there is a clear-cut choice... If Carpenter throws well in his last couple of outings, and Lincecum has another stinker, I think Carpenter will win. If Lincecum and Carpenter labor the next two times out and Wainwright throws well and finishes with 20 wins, I think that'll really help Wainwright's chances. Total toss-up right now. Full transcript

Zack Greinke has the ERA. CC Sabathia has the wins. Is Felix Hernandez the pitcher to forge a compromise and bring together voters on either end of the Cy Young voting spectrum? Maybe. Have we been watching too much C-SPAN? Absolutely.

Greinke pitched five shutout innings Thursday afternoon in a game with playoff implications (albeit not for his team) and has emerged as a substantial favorite in most SportsNation votes since midseason. But we all know those curmudgeonly official voters love their wins, and Greinke had the same number as Braden Looper entering the day. Hernandez has more wins, almost the same strikeouts per nine innings and the second-best ERA in the AL.

Eric Young and Buster Olney debate the case below, but what's your vote?

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• MLB Awards: Pick your winners for AL/ NL Cy Young and AL/NL MVP.

Tim Lincecum's gem against the Rockies Monday night may yet make a race out of the NL wild card, the lone prospect for any sort of September drama in the standings. But if the Giants ace eventually captures his second consecutive Cy Young, Monday's line -- 7 IP, 6 H, 1 ER, 11 K -- may go down as the clincher.

Lincecum has been out in front of the SportsNation voting most of the season. He dominated the midseason Cy Young rankings and had a 46-percent lead on his closest competition, Chris Carpenter, as recently as two weeks ago. But between Lincecum's bad back and Carpenter's amazing second half, the gap had closed to 20 percent last week.

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Ryan (Detroit)

What would it take for Verlander to win the Cy Young?

Peter Gammons

I think he'd have to reel off dominant starts from here until the end of the season. As of now Zack Greinke's ERA, quality starts and strikeouts make him very difficult to beat. But Verlander, Felix Hernandez and CC Sabathia are right in the mix. Full transcript

We're referencing a question from a SportsNation chatter who referenced a SportsNation poll in asking a question of Joe Morgan. How meta narcissistic of us.

In Tuesday's chat, Morgan brought up the example of Steve Carlton in talking about a pitcher from a losing team (i.e. Zack Greinke) winning the Cy Young. But how about the award's namesake? Young didn't play for a pennant winner until 1903, 13 years after he broke in.

Richard (MO)

Sportsnation says they'd vote Zack Greinke for the A.L. Cy Young. What are your thoughts on this considering his 13-8 record?

Joe Morgan

I definitely think Greinke should be considered because he has pitched well. When you're looking at these awards, it doesn't say the Cy Young should be the best pitcher on a winning team, it's the best pitcher. It simply says that, the best pitcher in the league. Zack Greinke is definitely in that category. We still have a month to go to decide if he's No. 1, 2, whatever. If CC Sabathia wins four more starts, pitching for the Yankees and that pressure, he'll probably win it. But remember Greinke doesn't have as good a team behind him. Steve Carlton won it, and his team only won 50 games or something. It's happened before. Full transcript

James (NY)

What does CC have to do to lock up the CY? 20 wins and a little lower ERA?

Rob Neyer

He might not even need 20, but if he gets there he'll be tough to beat unless one of the guys with significantly lower ERA's wins 18. Full transcript

Was Roy Halladay a big winner or a big loser in the All-Star Game? The American League's starting pitcher -- sorry, Kansas City, but most of the 'Nation agreed that was the right call -- Halladay took the mound with a 2-0 lead in the bottom of the first. But the pitcher most voters would turn to with everything on the line exited with his team trailing after allowing four hits and three runs in two innings. Bad news for Doc, right? Sure, if you're not a savvy, card-carrying conspiracy theorist.

Half of SportsNation expects Halladay to finish the season in the National League, presumably with a contending team that pays a hefty price to acquire him from the Blue Jays and whose name rhymes with "Schmillies."

So wasn't it really in Halladay's best interests for the National League to win the game? Too bad Carl Crawford and those meddling kids with the Mystery Machine foiled the plan. Check out that snag and other Web Gems from St. Louis below.

• Carl Crawford's catch was nice, but Torii Hunter's in 2002 was better.
• More than 60 percent of voters grade the game as at least a B.
• Surprise, surprise; one part of the country was fine with an 8:50 ET first pitch.

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I still think Mauer should have gotten the MVP. Not only did he get a hit, a double, he drove in the RBI that tied the game and he scored as well in the 1st. Plus he called the pitches for 5innings.

” -- anubis679

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God, this was getting old 12 years ago...... NL for the love of everything thats holy!!!

” -- mets4life1999

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Charlie Manuel calling for the intentional walk did't seem "exhibition" to me. Heath Bells boiled over reaction didn't seem "exhibition" to me. Curtis Granderson hustling out a triple when he could have just taken the exhibition game double didn't seem "exhibition" to me. Lastly, the up in arms frustration over the AL winning again shows people get a little more tense over this than an exhibition game.

” -- kanebowman

SportsNation is clear on two things when it comes to tonight's All-Star Game in St. Louis. First, the American League is going to win. And second, a good chunk of the 'Nation isn't happy about it.

Just like political elections (only with much younger combatants, except in the cases of Jamie Moyer and Tim Wakefield), the All-Star Game brings out the regional divisisions in all of us. From sea to shining sea, there are distinct bands of support for the American League and National League. And just like the elections, there are some familiar swing states.

Florida: With both the Marlins and Rays, the state is up for grabs. But barring a recount, the AL holds a 53-47 edge, perhaps thanks to AL East retirees.

California: The A's and Angels never stood a chance against the longstanding order of the Dodgers, Giants and Padres (sound familiar in the Golden State?). The National League holds a commanding 65-35 lead for the hearts and minds of Californians.

Ohio: What should be a battlegrouind between the Reds in the south and the Indians in the north is surprisingly one-sided, 62-38, in favor the American League.

Wisconsin: It hasn't taken Wisconsin long to adapt to life in the National League. In fact, at 82 percent support, it's the NL's biggest stronghold in the country.

Next week in chat: James Carville and Mary Matalin on the wild-card races! (not really).

• Have you switched league alleigances in your life? Vote on All-Star Game issues.
• Voters don't think the All-Star Game should decide home-field advantage.
• 'Nation agrees with Roy Halladay over Zack Greinke for American League.
• Chat: Ask Joe Morgan about the National League's golden years at 1 p.m. ET.

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Thanks Bud Selig for making baseball to make no sense whatsover compared to other sports. If you win 105 games in the regular season , then your team should be rewarded for having home field advantage in the World Series. What a Joke!!!! You did a good job in dividing up the leagues and having a wild card, but you can change this crap.

” -- bondsbay

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I'm glad that Maddon decided against Greinke, considering Greinke has about as good of a chance at mattering in the postseason as I do. Halladay is going to win Home Field for the American League, then get traded to the Phils . . .clutch

” -- nslynch713

Sometimes we all need a little extra space to vent. ESPN profiles give fans space to post their own blog entries and go toe-to-toe with commenters.

• Fireballr7: Saying it's too early to praise or condemn MLB players for play thus far, this blogger proceeds to do the former for some early success stories.
• chargerdom21: In arguably the longest blog in SportsNation history, the case is laid out, in extended detail, for what to expect from Chris Johnson, Steve Slaton and Matt Forte in fantasy football this season.
• ghostcasino: Some saw Shaq's NBA Finals tweeting as sarcasm; this blogger think it an olive branch to pave the way for a Hollywood comeback.
• Dozaone00: Finally able to spend some quality work time blogging again (let freedom reign!), a Jets fan breaks down what may happen with Sanchez and without Favre.
• PADR321: And the honeymoon is over. Offering a Philadelphia perspective so perfect you have to wonder if it's satire, a Phillies fan says it's time to forget the World Series title and get back to booing the bums.
• 3-indagame: Even Ron Zook had a longer grace period than this. At least one Broncos fan is already calling for Josh McDaniels to be fired.
• Robert Flores: The SportsCenter anchor is officially on the soccer bandwagon, which is why he's calling US Soccer "doughy soft" after the debacle against Brazil.
• More blogs: Check out all the SportsNation blogs.

The Red Sox are in the midst of their most dominant stretch against the Yankees since the year the Titanic hit an iceberg, but a lot of fans get a sinking feeling when those two teams dominate the discussion. We'll get to the rival empires in a bit, but there were other interesting developments on the diamond Wednesday night.

• Twins 6, A's 3: Two more hits for Joe Mauer raises his average to .415. SportsNation blogger JSchnootz gives the catcher credit as one of the emerging names capable of carrying the sport out of the steroids era.
• Tigers 2, White Sox 1: Sadly, no memorable rant from Ozzie Guillen, but Justin Verlander makes another move toward the Cy Young race. Count on Scott Boras using this as evidence that high-profile picks sometimes live up to the hype.
• Chat today at 12 p.m. ET: SweetSpot blogger Rob Neyer takes your questions