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Only three times since 1901 has an MLB team come from three games behind with four to play. That's a smaller number than the total of unassisted triple plays in the same span. It's a smaller number than the total of perfect games in that span. It's even a smaller number than Hall of Famers who went by animal names in everyday conversation (Goose Goslin, Catfish Hunter, Mule Suttles and Rabbit Maranville, for starters). But the Minnesota Twins became the first to make the postseason by beating the Tigers Tuesday night.
Now the question is would an encore be an even greater upset?
The Yankees took all seven games from the Twins during the regular season. They're rested and ready (and a little perturbed, in the case of Jorge Posada). The Twins didn't even get to New York until just before the morning radio shows started and have hardly any arms left to pitch.
- Your Rankings: Who are the Twins chasing for the all-time postseason upset?
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- Playoff Power Ranker: Where do the Twins fit in with the rest of the playoff teams?
Talk about picking the right time to take the division lead! In Tuesday's Tigers-Twins tiebreaker, the Twins' extra-inning win gave Minnesota the largest lead it has had on top of the AL Central this entire season -- a one-game lead! (Cue Detroit imploding.)
Despite the Tigers' monopolization of the spot since early May, with the Twins in first place as of Oct. 6, they have officially won the AL Central and a playoff series against the Yankees (lucky them, right?). Which team will win this ALDS: the surging Twins or the consistent Yankees? Vote below!
“Hey Tigers fans...I'm a Tigers fan as well. It's this simple - the Tigers had 7 chances in the reg season to control their own destiny. They didn't do it. As a result, they allowed themselves to be at the mercy of bad calls and bad bounces. It isn't on the umps.
” -- MotownRedMachine
“Even if the Twins lose to the Yanks, great accomplishment to come back and win the division.
” -- illnos
You would think repeating something 162 times would be a good way to guarantee conclusive results. When the Minnesota Twins are involved, you'd be wrong. We don't have a clue what will happen in the Metrodome on Tuesday night. (Although if we were the Twins, we'd keep Jared Allen around just in case anyone needs to rush the mound.)
What we do know is how little a chance SportsNation voters gave the Twins in the AL Central right up until the final hours of the regular season.
Scott (Bristol, CT)
What sort of chance do you give Rick Porcello and the Tigers on Tuesday in the Metrodome?
Buster Olney
Scott: The Twins have to be heavy favorites, because of the Metrodome home field advantage, because of the way the last four days have played out, etc. And Porcello is 0-2, 6.30 in the 'dome so far. But I was thinking about this the other day: Porcello really reminds me of Bret Saberhagen, with his nasty stuff, and maybe he's just young enough that that huge crowd and situation won't bother him at all. Look, everything changes in a hurry if Baker hangs an off-speed pitch in the first inning and Granderson goes deep. It's the nature of the sport. Full transcript
These are heady times in the Twin Cities. Brett Favre (steady on, you may hear that name a few more times today) gets his first look at the Packers tonight on Monday Night Football. Tuesday brings the Twins trying to complete a less tiresome comeback when they face the Tigers in a playoff ... tiebreaker ... really big game.
And we haven't even gotten to Sunday's thriller in front of roughly 4,000 people that saw the Timberwolves torch the Bucks (Roko Ukic vs. Mustafa Shakur; it's fantastic!) in the NBA preseason. Or the Wisconsin Badgers improving to 5-0 and claiming Paul Bunyan's Axe by beating the Golden Gophers on the gridiron in Minneapolis Saturday. You usually need a snow shovel to have this much fun in Minnesota.
We've got plenty of questions about the Packers and Vikings and Tigers and Twins, but first and foremost, which game is a bigger deal?
- Vote on Monday's game: Packers at Vikings | Vote on Tuesday's game: Tigers at Twins
- Chat : MNF with Football Outsiders, 7:30 p.m. ET | MLB with Eric Young, 3 p.m. ET
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We know baseball's regular season is a marathon, and one win in April equals one win in September. But when your team is coming to the finish line after running its metaphorical 26 miles, it has to feel good to have someone who can kick the guy behind you in the shins.
Justin Verlander was that guy Tuesday, kicking the Twins and their playoff hopes squarely where it hurts, but does one clutch performance when the Tigers needed it most put him in the thick of the AL Cy Young race?
With his team in danger of waking up this morning tied for first in the AL Central, Verlander beat the Twins and improved to 18-9 with a 3.45 ERA this season. CC Sabathia has 19 wins, Felix Hernandez has the same number of wins and a better ERA and Zack Greinke has fewer wins but the best ERA of all. But Verlander had the spotlight Tuesday night.
“Justin for Cy Young. Coming through in a pennant race is normally significant. Zach and Felix aren't pitching for much at this point.
” -- GNewsomII
“You should really go see Greinke pitch. If you haven't yet, it's really something. Plus it's cool that the dude is just a total space cadet.
” -- michissouri10
Well that didn't get us anywhere. The delicious Tigers-Twins doubleheader du jour turned out meaningless, with the Minnesota win in Game 1 being counteracted by the Detroit win in Game 2. Therefore, we end the day right back where we started: with a two-game Tigers lead over the Twins in the standings. What will the outcome of this important series be? Vote below.
- Before the series started: 51 percent said the Tigers would hold on and win the AL Central.
- Choose your side and join a group!: Tiger Den | Minnesota TWINS!!!!!!!!!!
- MLB Power Rankings: Last week, the Tigers were your No. 8 team and Twins your No. 11 team. Will they switch places this week?
If we were living in 1993, the Tigers would be 15.5 games behind the Yankees in the AL East and the Twins would be 13 games behind the Angels in the AL West. Then again, if we were living in 1993, this might be typed on a word processor and posted on a telephone poll while we walked to the record store to pick up the new Alice in Chains release.
In our hip, modern world, either the Tigers or Twins will make the playoffs out of the AL Central, and we may know a lot more about which one it will be by the end of the weekend. The Tigers remain the heavy favorite as they head to Minnesota for three games, but a Twins sweep would cut the deficit to a single game. And in a year without much September drama, we'll take the drama of mediocrity -- No. 9 vs. No. 14 in SportsNation's Power Rankings -- over nothing. Besides, Joe Mauer vs. Justin Verlander in Saturday's game should be consderably more interesting than Urban Meyer vs. Lane Kiffin.
- Vote: Which team would be more dangerous in the playoffs?
- Friday's Chats: Jerry Crasnick, 12 p.m. ET | Jayson Stark, 1 p.m. ET
- Week's Chats: Buster Olney | Peter Gammons | Joe Morgan | Steve Phillips | Keith Law
“If the Tigers make the playoffs, this "recent Struggle" for Detroit might turn out to benefit them in the playoffs. It seems like the teams that struggle before the playoffs somehow hit a peak in the playoffs and therefore, actually do well post-season. The team that plays the best during the playoffs wins the championship every year. Tigers have a chance.
” -- CCRuss81
Sometimes we react to news, like when the Eagles decide to sign Michael Vick. Sometimes we plan things in advance. And sometimes we just let you do the work. Actually, we do that most of the time.
Fortunately, SportsNation usually provides us with plenty of cover for our slacking ways. So it was Friday, when an anonymous chatter asked a question that became a theme in Jayson Stark's chat and even carried over into Keith Law's chat.
Baseball Fans (Everywhere)
Anybody have better stuff than Verlander? Makes we want to be a Tigers fan just to watch him more often.
Jayson Stark
That's a fun question to contemplate. You can make a case that Josh Beckett is in this argument and Tim Lincecum. And Felix Hernandez and Zack Greinke deserve to be in the conversation. But nobody maintains his power stuff deep into a game better than Verlander for my money. Anybody else want to toss out some nominations? That's great chat fodder!
Birdman (Boston)
Who keeps the list of the most swing and misses? The guy who tops the list will be your nastiest.
Jayson Stark
Our stat department keeps it. And Justin Verlander is running away with the lead -- while pitching in the American League. So maybe you're right. Maybe he was the choice all along. Full transcript.
Bob (Salem)
This was just in Starks chat, but which pitcher do you think has the best "stuff"?
Keith Law
Among current big-league starters, probably Burnett - more life on the fastball than Verlander and at least as good of a curveball. Of course, Verlander beats Burnett on all the non-stuff things that count. Full transcript.
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Sticks and stones may break bones, but batting helmets never seem to hurt anyone.
In another baseball brouhaha that was more sports creationism than sweet science, Kevin Youkilis charged the mound after being hit by Rick Porcello in the second inning of Tuesday's game between the Red Sox and Tigers. And it would seem to us that if you have a helmet in one hand and a bat in the other, and you elect to take the former into combat and leave the latter at the plate, you're pretty much admitting you shouldn't be going out there at all.
But aside from making for amusing video and brightening Ozzie Guillen's day, the brawl also got us wondering which batter would you least want to see rumbling toward the mound?
- Vote: The loss cost the Tigers in the standings; what's next in the Central?
- Vote: Do beanballs serve a purpose or just get more batters hit?
“Man, I could watch Kevin Youkilis get slammed down by Porcello all day every day. Classic!
” -- Bro_Montana
“Youk 220 and porcello 200....and youk is 6'1 and porcello is 6'5....youk was dumb to go high...got to go low if you want to knock him down...Youk tackles like the Lions....
” -- afkas4242
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