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Has Matthew Stafford Arrived?

November 23, 2009
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Well, don't all those people who mocked the Lions and the Browns feel foolish.

One of the great things about sports is a game like (very few) of us saw Sunday. If Ashlee Simpson and a Jonas sibling to be named later write a duet, you know it will have all the musical significance of a mouse belching. But put the Lions and the Browns on the same field and you can occasionally end up with a classic like the one that saw Matthew Stafford throw a touchdown on an untimed down to give the Lions a 38-37 win.

Stafford threw for 422 yards and became the youngest quarterback to throw five touchdown passes in an NFL game. And on a day when Joe Flacco threw a costly pick, Mark Sanchez couldn't stop throwing picks and Matt Ryan couldn't quite lead the Falcons to a much-needed win, it's enough to make him the hottest young quarterback in the league, if only for a week.

kjgreen

The Skins-Cowboys game that was shown early on Fox was a yawner and the Lions-Browns game was probably the most thrilling of the day, too bad no one outside of Ohio saw it

-- kjgreen
illnos

I don't understand why people bash Quinn? You can't say whether or not he'll be a solid NFL QB, he plays for the browns, they're a joke. Take Tom Brady and put him on the Browns and the Browns still lose a lot of games. They have no O-line, and no offensive weapons

-- illnos

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Brad Childress gets Brett Favre and quickly ends up with a hefty contract extension. Lovie Smith gets Jay Cutler and finds people wondering if he'll soon be unemployed. Some guys have all the luck. Nevertheless, the Bears enter Sunday's showdown against the Eagles just one game off the wild-card pace, despite losing their past two. And Cutler's old team in Denver has lost three in a row and may be without Kyle Orton against the Chargers this week. One SportsNation blogger thinks Cutler is still the right guy for the Bears, but does his new team or his old team need a win more this week?

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The answers: Andorra, Vatican City, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg. The question: What are maps smaller than the coverage that's likely to be allotted to the Cleveland Browns and Detroit Lions on Sunday? Mike Greenberg and Mike Golic posed their own question on "Mike & Mike In The Morning" on Tuesday, asking listeners for reasons to watch this weekend's clash of the Titanics. Among the responses:

The sad thing is that for Browns fans, this might not even be the low point. Their team still has games remaining against the Chiefs and Raiders. At least Buccaneers fans probably still can get Sunday tee times.

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SportsNation would rather have Peyton Manning than Tom Brady dating their sister, but the roles are reversed if a wingman is called for. Maybe it's time to have the quarterback beauty contest settled on the field.

In the other big rivalry game of the week (no, not Chiefs-Raiders), Chad Ochocinco is winning the PR war (and food fight) for the Bengals, but fans favor the Steelers.

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Pending decisions from guys like Jimmy Clausen and Jake Locker, it remains to be seen exactly how plentiful the potential first-round quarterbacks will be in next spring's draft. But it seems safe to say it will have more to offer than the class of signal callers that came out of the 2007 draft.

Derek Anderson needed four games to complete a total of 29 passes, and it's only now that 2007 draftee Brady Quinn apparently gets another shot. JaMarcus Russell can't stop throwing interceptions and some of Trent Edwards' teammates are eager to bring in Michael Vick. Is there still hope for any of these guys, or is Kevin Kolb the class' only hope for redemption?

choochmmm9

Welcome to the side show that is the Cleveland Browns. Trust me Browns fans, I know it seems bad, but it is only going to get worse. Mangini is clueless - are you sick of the "consistent" talk yet? Get him out of there before you lose next season as well. - A Jet fan

-- choochmmm9

Mike (Akron)

Hey Mel, if you were head of scouting for the Browns and you had 11 draft picks in the upcoming draft, how would you fix this team? Where would you start first?

Mel Kiper
Mel Kiper

First you have to assess the QB situation. Hopefully Brady Quinn will start the remaining of the season. You have 8 games left. See what you have in Quinn. You know what you have in Anderson. You have to see what Quinn has. He's been called too strong, too powerful to be an accurate consistent thrower. He needs a chance to prove that wrong. They need to develop some WRs. They need help on the defensive side of the ball. With the picks, you try to mortgage them for more. I'm a fan of moving down and getting more. They also need an heir apparent to Jamaal Lewis. Obviously, these young receivers, they need to develop the ones they drafted last year. Secondary help. Front seven help. The biggest thing this organization has to figure out is if Brady Quinn is the QB moving forward. The only way to find out is to play him. Full transcript

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What does Tony Romo have to do to catch a break? Wait, poor choice of words. Romo should be breathing easy these days. Criticized heavily during the Cowboys' slow start -- he had slipped all the way to No. 17 in SportsNation's quarterback rankings as recently as Oct. 12 -- Romo bounced back with three great games in a row. By Monday, he was back up to the cusp of the top 10 at the position in SportsNation's eyes. Enter Roy Williams, who managed the seemingly impossible feat of handing a popularity contest to Terrell Owens.

SportsNation says Romo isn't a leader, but one blogger is ready to follow him to a win against the Eagles.

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The Colts won a slugfest at home against the 49ers, and the Saints held on against the Falcons on Monday Night Football. But as the league's two undefeated teams battle for the top spot in everyone's rankings, the real drama of the moment seems to come from the league's cellar. Namely, what do the Browns have to do to earn the No. 32 ranking?

Cleveland fired its general manager Monday, less than a year into his tenure, and may have given him a hand exiting the building. Derek Anderson, the quarterback they benched their first-round pick in order to play, completed six passes to his teammates and two to the opponents in the last game -- and it wasn't even close to his worst performance of the season. The Saints' defense has scored more touchdowns than the Browns' offense. And the owner is meeting with disgruntled fans in hopes of avoiding a visible protest.

Other than that, things are just dandy. And yet as seen below, the Browns haven't managed to occupy the last spot in SportsNation's Power Rankings at any point this season. Maybe Florida Tuskers running back Tatum Bell isn't so crazy.

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Hidden beneath the layers of Shakespearean drama involved in Brett Favre's return to Lambeau Field to face the boos and settle scores with Ted Thompson, there's a reasonably important division game on tap Sunday in Green Bay. With the Bears skidding and the Lions, well, still the Lions, the Vikings could put the kind of distance normally reserved for month-old Limburger between themselves and the Cheeseheads. SportsNation is picking the visitors to get it done, and one blogger thinks this could be the beginning of the end.

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It only took a couple of wins for fans like MSJC36 to accept Josh McDaniels. The other fan bloggers (if you ignore the Broncos' true rivals) are grudgingly coming around, too.

On the spectrum opposite the undefeated, 0-5 despair translated to draft dreams.

Rush Limbaugh's role in a bid for the Rams drew spirited response (click through below if you think there's still something to add to this debate), Terrell Owens trade rumors involved multiple teams and the UFL even got a cursory look from fans.

These are the best NFL fan blogs posted on ESPN.com this week. Click through to respond to win-starved fans or a post about your favorite team.

Week 6 predictions: Jbreaux2 | Feldman9000

Broncos

Break up the Broncos. Who would have thought that Josh McDaniels would have the Denver Broncos with a 5-0 record? With all the offseason and preseason drama, it seemed at first that McDaniels was doing a good job at alienating his team.

-- Goldbrick4
Raiders

Don't come in here with your 'we're 5-0, WHHEEEEE, WHHHHOOOOO" record trying to impress. You're 5-0. Good job. The season is still early.

-- Jack London220
Vince Young

I understand that Tennessee is 0-5, but putting in Vince Young at this point is more than just hitting the panic button; it's the equivalent of initiating a self-destruct sequence.

-- afjumpman23
Colts

Of all the undefeated teams, if the Bears were forced to play one of them, I'd hate for them to play the Colts right now. That team is almost impossible to stop.

-- The Mini Ditkas

Team Blogs
Bengals: sharar09 | Browns: Carmentrout56 | Enochdawg | Chiefs: WarrioroftheChiefsGridiron | Sports Page Network | Cowboys: MoAz2213 | Dolphins: I am Ron Burgandy | Giants: Aquaman8888 | Jets: Goldbrick4 | Patriots: llittlewoz81 | Raiders: JaRader Hater2 | Redskins: Aquaman8888 | Steelers: JoeRevs300 | Titans: ChrisLo26

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Apology to Brett Favre: 6burghsteelers1 | Fantasy: Dargo7777 | Hall of Fame: partofwhatswrong | October the best month: owenjs33 | Rush Limbaugh: adam_keefe_fan | jschreier18 | benrey23 | Eyvonne1953 | Terrell Owens trade rumors: mikeywhtsox1 | JCorreia08 | Trash talk: Goldbrick4 | Twitter: gweitz11 | UFL: mikeywhtsox1 | Willie Parker: JoeRevs300

Week 5 reaction
Tomahawk27488 | orionben666 | cjmeares

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Despite the quarterback mystery, quarterback changes, wide receiver moves and lack of wins, there are still Browns fans. GoBrowns29 and our bloggers provide the evidence.

Like fans of the Chiefs, Titans, Panthers, Rams and Buccaneers, they're not happy, but they still love their team (just not the coach, players, GM, owner or other scapegoat).

These are the best NFL fan blogs posted on ESPN.com this week. Click through to respond to win-starved fans or a post about your favorite team.

Week 5 predictions: Venture99 | phyhtheaux | brijay103099

Week 17 predictions: AniD89

Derek Anderson

And both axles just broke off of Derek Anderson's bandwagon because the population on it increased by 800 percent.

-- flight23_14
Buccaneers

At this point I can't help but wonder if there are any of the teams left on the schedule that the Buccaneers can actually beat.

-- BucsgirlDK
Chiefs

Then it hit me, like the Jerry Jones scoreboard crashing down on top of me. We (the Chiefs) have become the Raiders.

-- Sports Page Network
Rams

The Browns have scored 49 points and they have ONLY been outscored by 69 points, while the Rams have been outscored by, a humiliating, 84 points. Wow.

-- Godlike_82

Team Blogs
Broncos: ChiefIronhorse74 | Browns: Carmentrout56 | Cowboys: ESPN_CindyBrunson | Jets: Jets246292 | Ravens: brijay103099 | Redskins: usmcva03 | Saints: MorningGlory85

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Breast cancer awareness: gmarius425 | Brett Favre: RAQUANIES | txtechjmacattack | Monday Night Football diary: APefectCircle | Plaxico Burress: lakergirl04 | Rankings: bcransom | Rush Limbaugh: laxMack28 | Season overview: HHW_III | T.O.: RAQUANIES

Week 4 reaction
orionben666 | phyhtheaux | Necessary Roghness | afjumpman23

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CHAT IN PROGRESS

MNF: Titans vs. Texans!
  • Aaron SchatzNo, there was more to it than that. He had some big wins all season, and scouts absolutely loved his arm strength. But they just ignored the fact that this guy had no accuracy and his decision-making skills were lousy. You can't really simulate "go through your progressions and figure out who's open" in a private pre-draft workout.
  • spencer cook (haysville, KS)why do we never talk about raiders?
  • Aaron SchatzSpencer, scroll on up.
  • Mike S (CT)Aaron, what is the best explanation for LenDale White's massive dropoff in production this season? Obviously, Chris Johnson's recent explosion would rendered nearly all other RB superfluous, but White was hardly playing well early in the season, either.