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We've spent considerably more time over the last couple of months talking about the Pirates than their basement-dwelling peers like the Royals and Orioles, but they just make it so easy. After all, an inability to field a competitive team is one thing -- Elgin Baylor made a nice living out of it -- but trading away a potential contender over the course of two seasons? That takes a certain something special. Surely, Pirates GM Neal Huntington deserves to be ranked ahead of Royals GM Dayton Moore for chutzpah alone.

The latest to leave the fold were shortstop Jack Wilson, second baseman Freddy Sanchez and pitcher Ian Snell. And look, this whole rebuilding thing might work, even if SportsNation isn't buying it. The haul for Sanchez was Tim Alderson, the Giants' No. 4 prospect according to Baseball America, and the guys at USS Mariner, who are right more often than they're wrong about these things, weren't thrilled about how much Seattle gave away for a good defensive shortstop in Wilson and an enigmatic pitcher in Snell.

But even if Alderson, Jeff Clement, Lastings Milledge and Andrew McCutchen are the second coming of the "We Are Family" Pirates, the franchise has a serious credibility problem. Just ask SportsNation blogger Fairsoldier50, who says it's time for Huntington to buy a cabin in the woods.

redguy12588

Any Pirates fan that doesn't like either of these trades is not really a Pirates fan.

-- redguy12588
brianlarry

I GIVE UP!!!!!! How can I watch and cheer for a team that wants to suck. I just gave all my stuff to a bum because thats how i feel about the Pirates. Pirates ownership sucks soooo bad, pay me half the money those guys make and I can do just as good as them and maybe better. oh, I just threw up in my mouth. I am so glad that football is starting soon so i can watch a team that wants to win in Pittsburgh, THE STEELERS!!!!

-- BrianLarry
bus3668

The Pirates ownership continues to bilk the fans buy putting out a terrible product in a nice package (PNC Park). They wouldn't even spend to a salary cap, if there was one because they don't care enough. How long can you continue to rebuild a team for? The last time they were any good, Barry Bonds was a skinny young man. They have gone beyond rebuilding. It's a constant cycle. Pathetic..

-- bus3668

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When do you give up on a franchise? It's a simple question, but that doesn't necessarily mean it has an easy answer for baseball fans in Pittsburgh these days.

The city has championship teams in the NFL and NHL, and while there's some rebuilding to do without DeJuan Blair, the University of Pittsburgh basketball program gives hoops fans something to look forward to in the winter. What the Steel City doesn't have is a competitive baseball franchise. And while the folks running the show say they're trying to change that, should Pirates fans -- or the remaining players -- believe it after Tuesday's pair of trades makes it four starting outfielders dealt since the beginning of last season?

steelsityswammi

I understand the reasononing behind the trades. Their farm system is unproductive and they are on pace for another losing season. However with only six games behind the nl leading brew crew I dont think its time for a fire sale. Getting rid of the talent is only going delay them another season of making the playoffs. All I gotta say is they better be active in free agency next year because we have the pitching now we need the power.

-- steelsityswammi
iceman4342

Pittsburgh fans should boycott this organization and do not buy any tickets for the remainder of the year.

-- iceman4342

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CHAT IN PROGRESS

Former QB Bobby Hebert
  • Bobby HebertIt gave me an opportunity to get experience right away in the pro level. Back in those days, they were holding QBs back for 4-5 even 6 years before playing. It gave me an opportunity to play right away. We won the USFL championship right away. I was MVP in the championship game. It was pretty cool. It gave me an exposure and experience. Some people might say that the USFL wasn't the NFL, but if you look at each position, there was a Pro Bowl NFL player. I look at us, there were 28 NFL teams then and we had more support for our Michigan team than the Lions. I feel that if we had played the Lions back then, we would have beaten then. I think our championship team could have been 13 or 14th in the NFL. But we didn't have much depth. It was night versus day with the player coming in to play behind the first string guy. Donald Trump coming in was the worst thing, trying to get the league into the fall and expanding it.
  • bruce (mandeville, la)How much should the Saints be concerned with a banged up secondary even with the latest additions? Will that be the difference?
  • Bobby HebertYeah, potentially could be a huge difference. The old cliche is the best pass coverage is a good pass rush. If those guys can come up big against Tom Brady and help the secondary. In the Patriots undefeated season, the reason the Giants won the Super Bowl was they got after Tom Brady. The secondary could be vulnerable, because with Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, I don't care who the secondary is, he's going to exploit it.
  • steve (lakeport,ca)Happy Turkey Day Bobby. What was a bigger thrill, taking the Saints to the playoffs, or the Championships with the Stars of the old USFL?