Chat with Rich Cimini
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Cimini, longtime Jets beat writer for the New York Daily News and a Syracuse University graduate, covers the Jets for ESPNNewYork.com.
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Rich Cimini (12:00 PM)
Hi, everybody. Thanks for stopping by for our Jets chat. Finally, a game! I know the players are excited to hit somebody other than their own teammates, and I'm sure the fans are pumped, too. So without any further delay, let's chat.
Louie (Tampa (By way of Staten Island))
Rich, with every passing day and no new sit-down's scheduled I got less and less optimistic that we are going to get Darrelle signed. So what gives, is this gonna get done to have DR in uniform for the MNF opener?
Rich Cimini (12:02 PM)
Louie, I believe Revis will be in uniform for the first game. I'm not sure if he'll get a long-term extension, but I think the two sides will come to an agreement on a one-year, band-aid agreement. Everybody talks about how Revis' uncle, Sean Gilbert, sat out an entire year. In his case, there wasn't labor uncertainty. If Revis sits, he could miss two years because of a possible lockout. Miss two years out of his prime? No way that happens.
We know Jets won't cut John Connor, so what do you think will happen w/ T-Rich? Will they carry 2 FBs or cut the vet?
Rich Cimini (12:05 PM)
You're right, AA, Conner isn't getting cut. The Jets don't want to cut Tony because of everything he means to the team (great locker-room presence). But if they sense a slippage in his skills, they could conceivably cut him. I think it's a long shot. Conner plays special teams, so he'll be going to the game even if he doesn't get time in the backfield. When it's all done, I think it'll be TRich and Conner, with Jason Davis the odd-man out.
What's your sense from talking to the Jets players as to how much they want to win this game tonight given new stadium, rivalry, trash talk this week, etc.?
Rich Cimini (12:06 PM)
There's definitely a little something extra for this game, given all the reasons you mentioned, but the Jets are claiming they don't care if they win or not. They say they have bigger fish to fry -- i.e. winning a Super Bowl. But ... if the Jets kick their butt tonight, I bet you'll have some players saying how good it feels to beat the Giants. That's just how it works.
Trevor Gill (Ossining, NY)
Hey Rich, love all your work and tweets!While watching Hard Knocks I felt like Tanenbaum was certianly using the cameras to his advantage with the whole Revis thing, especially in the scene on the way back from Roscoe. Also, Rex seems to use the cameras to be especially funny. How different do you think the whole organization is acting in front of the cameras and will this affect the Revis situation or on play performace at all? THANKS!
Rich Cimini (12:09 PM)
Let me tell you something: That was no act by Rex. That's just him. I can't believe the uproar by all his cursing. It's football and these are grown men, not HS kids. Football coaches curse. Have been for a 100 years. I can't believe that Fathead/prude on WFAN made such a big deal out of it. Obviously, he's clueless. As for Tannenbaum, it was totally staged. There's no way he says he feels "like a failure" if the cameras aren't there. He was playing to the audience, big time.
Thanks for the great camp updates, Rich. How is Shonn Greene looking, and what type of year do you expect from him? Also, what are the odds that Tony Richardson does not make the final roster?
Rich Cimini (12:11 PM)
Great point, Danny, Greene has been overshadowed by everything else going on around the team. Other than Sanchez, you could make the argument that Greene is the most important player on the team. It's really hard to evaluate RBs in non-contact practices. He looks like typical Greene: Big, punishing, tough between the tackles, still can't catch, etc.
How long do you think sanchez will play?
Rich Cimini (12:12 PM)
According to Ryan, the starters will play a little more than a quarter, which is a bit longer than usual for the first preseason game. My hunch is that, with another game in five days, the starters will play a little LESS than usual against the Panthers.
Rich, what is your take on the progression of Mark Sanchez? From most reports, it seems like he is not having a great camp so far.
Rich Cimini (12:16 PM)
Matt, I talked to Brian Schottenheimer on Saturday about Sanchez, and he was really upbeat about him. Personally, I think Sanchez has looked a bit off in practice, but some of that can be expected. After all, he's coming off knee surgery and he's learning to play with some new receivers. It takes time to get timing down. The most important thing is, his knee looks fine. And he does have a greater command of the offense, also very important.
Zach (Bay Harbor, MI.)
Will we see Gholston with the 1's tonight?
Rich Cimini (12:16 PM)
Zach, Gholston isn't a starter in the base defense, but I believe he will see time with the 1s in their nickel package.
Who would your pick for the 5th WR? Allison, Clowney, Henry?
Rich Cimini (12:18 PM)
Interesting question, Ryan: As I blogged the other day, I like Allison. He's a better receiver than Clowney, but that position could come down to special teams, where Clowney might have the edge if he wins the "gunner" job. Allison would have to shine as a kickoff returner. Henry has had some good practices, but i need to see more of him.
WestcoastJetsfan (Los Angeles)
I read earlier today where Tim Graham said the Jets training camp seemed the most unfocused compared to the other AFC east teams. I know you haven't been to the other camps to compare but how does this Jets camp compare to last years Rex Ryan camp?
Rich Cimini (12:21 PM)
I haven't read Tim's column, Coast, but I know he's a very astute observer. Personally, I wouldn't used the word "unfocused." Confident? Yes. Arrogant? Quite possibly. Distracted? Maybe a little because of all the media coverage. But unfocused? Time will tell. The Jets had a great camp last year and came out smoking. Let's see how it goes this time.
LT has been taking a lot of snaps with the first team. Why wouldn't they give those reps to Greene if he's gonna be the starter?
Rich Cimini (12:22 PM)
Matt, I haven't been keeping exact tabs on the rep count, but Greene is getting his share of first-team reps. I bet it's pretty close to 50-50. Remember, Tomlinson is learning the system and needs the practice time.
Pickles Johnson (Dill City, Oklahoma)
If Cromartie gets torched and the secondary gets exposed does that add any to the stress of getting Revis signed or would it take more than 1 preseason game to get there.
Rich Cimini (12:23 PM)
The Jets will say no, of course, but I think it would have an impact on the negotiations. Cromartie is having a great camp. If he were to go out and lay an egg, I think it would light a fire under the Jets to get something done with Revis.
Very quiet day in the office without you guys about here.
Rich Cimini (12:24 PM)
Yep, we're just a bunch of hell raisers from New York. We'll be back in Cortland on Wednesday for the homestretch. I really like Cortland. Nice town, great people.
As the season approaches it seems more and more like Slausen is going to be the starter. Is this a short term deal to allow Ducasse time to develop or is Slausen the possible long term starter?
Rich Cimini (12:28 PM)
Well, Matt, Ryan indicated the other day that Slauson could be the long-term solution. You're right, he's ahead of Ducasse. One thing about Slauson: He doesn't have the greatest foot speed and the Jets like to pull their guards. Faneca was pretty good at that, and it'll be interesting to see how Slauson handles it. Looking into the future, Ducasse could be a RT. Damien Woody also has guard experience, and he could slide in there in 2011 if it doesn't work out with Slauson. No matter what happens, the OLine should be good for a long time, assuming they get Mangold locked up for the long term.
Big Blue (Giants Country)
There is no rivalry, anybody under 40 doesnt even know when the last time the Jets won a Super Bowl, and New York is still Giants Country because Giants fans put their money where their mouths are, how many unsold PSL's do the Giants have compared to the Jets.... Bring it on!
Rich Cimini (12:33 PM)
I love it! A cocky, trash-talking Giants fan. There aren't many of you out there. Chill out, dude, it's only a pre-season game.
With the new WRs on the roster.. what is Brad Smith's role turning out to be? and now with LT possibly taking charge of wildcat, how often will we see smith anymore?
Rich Cimini (12:34 PM)
I'm not ready to anoint Tomlinson has the new Wildcat back. Smith will remain in that role because of his ability to throw the ball. I think you'll also see him as a situational WR, a KR and a special-teams guys. He wears a lot of dufferent hats, and he's an important player for the team.
Rich, How long is Holmes expected to play tonight with the suspension looming for the first 4 games?
Rich Cimini (12:36 PM)
I know this, Oz: He's going to get a lot of time in the final preseason game, right before he begins his suspension. I think he'll play into second quarter tonight, but I don't think he'll be out there all night. He needs to get work with Mark Sanchez, not Brunell and Clemens.
Is Kris Jenkins completely healthy? Will the coaching staff bring him on slowly this preseason?
Rich Cimini (12:38 PM)
Is he 100%? I'm not sure. Who among us is really 100%? But he's healthy enough to play. Yes, they will have the Cookie Monster on a pitch count, so to speak. It's pointless to have him play 20 or 30 plays in a pre-season game. What would that accomplish? He's targeting sept. 13.
Do you see Coles making the roster? Or do they to with someone like Allison until Holmes returns, bascially because if Coles is on the oppening day roster, his salary for the year is guaranteed.
Rich Cimini (12:41 PM)
I think the coaching staff is really rooting for Coles to make the roster. You're right, his $855k is guaranteed if he's on the opening-day roster. That's a lot of coin for what could be a four-game gig. Pro-rated over an entire season, that would be $3.6 million. Coles got off to a slow start, but he's starting to make plays in practice. A lot depends on Allison, Clowney, etc. In my book, I'd take Coles. He's been there, done that.
Richie (Carbondale, Illinois)
Does Danny Woodhead remind you at all of Wayne Chrebet? An undersized player coming out of a small college, who plays bigger than his size. Do you think Woodhead will make the team, or ever be a starter on the Jets? If so do you think he will capture the hearts of fans like #80 did back in the day?
Rich Cimini (12:43 PM)
Richie, you gotta love Woodhead. He gets knocked around in practice, but he never goes down. He won't be a starter, but he can play RB, WR and 3rd down back. I don't think he'll be another Wayne Chrebet, but you have to give him a chance. He's definitely on the bubble; it'll be interesting to see if he makes it. It's a numbers game, and it's not going to be easy.
Rich - to follow up to your comment on the certain WFAN personality - he admitted that he never watched hard knocks before last wednesday. i just cannot believe the guy can go on such an educated rant. the "uncut" nature of hard knocks is what makes the show special, and someone should remind him it airs at 10 pm on Wednesday. it is not like it is sesame street on PBS
Rich Cimini (12:45 PM)
I agree with everything you said. Fathead is a Giants fan, and hates everything to do with the Jets.
T Hizzo (New York, NY)
There has been a lot made regarding how well the offense has looked this camp. Is this because the offense has really looked THAT good? or has there been a let down on the defensive end so far?
Rich Cimini (12:48 PM)
The offense has looked better than last season at this time, but I wouldn't say it's the second coming of the Greatest Show of Turf. The defense still "wins" in practice, and that's to be expected. The Jets have a good defense, even without Revis. The offense has a young QB and some new parts.
Rich, does a player still get paid if they sit out a season? because Revis is still under contract for the next 3 years. So couldn't the Jets just let him sit if they don't have to pay him?
Rich Cimini (12:49 PM)
if a player sits out, he doesn't get paid. In Revis' case, he'd be giving up "only" $1 million. I'm told that he simply won't play for $1 million.
Rich - what are the chances that Purdum, Folk, and Weatherford will be our special teams battery on opening day? Mr T's mantra is finding any and every way to improve the team - and these guys leave a lot to be desired, IMO. They could cost the team win(s)
Rich Cimini (12:51 PM)
I never thought of it that way, Brian. It's not beyond the realm of possibility that the LS, PK and P could change by the opener. Realistically, I don't think that will happen, though. Purdum is iffy; except for 1 day last week, he's been fine in practice, but how will he handle the stage? Don't know. Weatherford is mediocre and could be replaced if something better comes along. Folk would have to implode in the preseason, which I suppose is possible.
Mike (Keyport )
ive asked the clowney question about 3 different times you held this chat i just feel he could b a very good deep threat and would like to no if the jets feel the same and if they will use him in this fashion
Rich Cimini (12:53 PM)
Mike, you're right, Clowney can be a very good deep threat. Knowing his rep, he'll probably lead the preseason in receiving yards. Problem is, he's a one-trick pony. When he's on the field, teams expect a vertical route. He needs to become more adept at the underneath stuff. He needs to expand his game. He has a ton of athletic ability, but he needs to refine it.
Andrew (Long Island)
Rich, how has Kyle Wilson looked? We know that he'll be starting as long as Revis is absent, but that may be simply because Lowery ain't that good.
Rich Cimini (12:55 PM)
good point, Andrew. I don't think Lowery is a front-line corner in this league. Wilson has looked ok in practice, although he's had some problems in the slot. To be fair, he covers Cotchery a lot in practice, and that's a tough cover for a rookie. We'll see tonight. He expects the Giants to go right after him.
Regardless of what happens this season, is the team worried about what the roster will look like over the next 3-4 seasons, given the cap space that will be eaten up by revis, mangold, sanchez, et al?
Rich Cimini (12:57 PM)
Adam, I think Mike Tannenbaum is always planning for the future, although you might not get that impression based on the way this team is built. There are a lot of one-year situations on the team (Edwards, Cromartie, Holmes, Mangold, Harris, etc.), and it's going to be impossible to keep them all next year, even without a cap. If there is a cap, get ready for a lot of roster turnover.
is brodney pool looking to be the starter at safety expected when he was signed? or is ihedigbo or eric smith stepping up?
Rich Cimini (12:59 PM)
I think they signed Pool with the idea that he'd be the starter. He's getting most of the first-team reps, although they put Smith in there on occasion. Smith has a key role on special teams, so they don't want to over-work him, but you'll see him in sub packages. Pool is an interesting player; I'm curious to see him in action.
Rick, why'd they pay D'Brick before Revis... seems that probably hurt their position that they won't renegotiate deals with years, and threw money on a lesser need.
Rich Cimini (1:00 PM)
Brick accepted a contract with little signing bonus and rolling guarantees. Revis does not want that type of deal. Brick did a team-friendly deal that, in the long run, will pay him a ton of money. Revis wants to do a Revis-friendly deal.
Seamus (Pine Brook NJ)
How do you think Woody would react if I sent in my PSL payment form, with the notation "Will pay you when you pay REVIS." Seriously, all the SB hype is laughable (and embarrassing) w/o Darrelle.
Rich Cimini (1:02 PM)
I'm not going to argue with you, Seamus. You make some good points ... Anyway, I have to run. Gotta get my game face on and make a long drive to the new stadium. Thanks for stopping by, folk. Have a great day and enjoy the game! Rich