There's been a lot of talk in recent days about tests taken and home runs hit in 2003, mostly because some guys named Manny, David and Alex happened to lead the American League in the latter and wind up on a list of players who failed the former.
But those aren't the only numbers from the 2003 season that induce a double-take in retrospect (and no, we're not talking about Bill Mueller winning a batting title). We're talking about the wins column for National League pitchers that season, on which Mark Prior, Kerry Wood and Dontrelle Willis all owned impressive real estate en route to meeting in the NLCS. Just six years later. Wood has a 5.11 ERA and five blown saves for the Indians -- and he's the success story out of the group.
Prior was released last week by the Padres, and while voters don't think he's made his last start in the majors, it's not exactly a road leading to Cooperstown anymore. As for Willis, let's just say SportsNation has more faith in Detroit's car companies than him.
- Similar fate? Voters don't expect Brandon Webb to bounce back well from surgery.
- Speaking of 2003, more than half of SN still thinks Manny is a Hall of Famer.
Ted (Seattle)
Who are you most surprised didn't become a star: Mark Prior, Kerry Wood or Dontrelle Willis?
Buster Olney
Ted: Prior. He was so good. He'll be the guy you'll tell your kids about in 15 years and say, 'You know who was really good? This guy named Mark Prior...' And they'll have to go and look up his numbers before they believe you. It's really a shame the way it has gone for him. Full transcript.
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