I'm here!! Time to get one last burst of hoops energy out of our system's before it's time to focus on family for a day and a half. Let's get to it. "Lucia de Lammermoor", Donizetti's haunting opera, is with us today. "The trick is staying alive-that is the key to the benefits program".
hey do you think my pacers need to fire jim o'brien i mean though they are competing they continue to give up big leads and i believe it is his system...your thoughts?
Gosh no. Relax.
Hi David. As a Wolves fan, I was pumped by your pre-season optimism about the Wolves in general and Love/Brewer/Foye in particular. Unfortunately, things haven't been going that well for the team or those players. Any idea why? Coaching? Need more talent?
All 3 need a good program around them, unlike mega-talents like Rose, Wade, Bron, etc. At this point, it does not exist, apparently.
David, I just wanted to say that I'm thankful ESPN hired you. I feel like I've learned more about basketball from you on this website and on the podcasts you do than I have in all my years of playing and watching hoops. Happy Thanksgiving to your family, and thanks for the time you devote to the sport and your readers.
Same to you Dave, and thanks so much for those kind words.
How about them Spurs. What do you think of the Spurs newcomers' progress (Hill & Mason) and the return of a healthy Ginobili? Any predictions for what could appear as another title run....
I picked them in the pre-season, and feel even better now.
Thor-pizzle! One thing that's never made sense to me - why wouldn't superstars always take less money to play with other superstars? You've gotta figure two super-mega-stars like Bosh and Lebron would be looking at 4-8 rings if they could work together - doesn't the idea of winning all those championships trump the need to get 26 million a year instead of 20? Also, is there any prohibition against players talking to one another and making a plan like that? Happy Thanksgiving!
Players can and do discuss those types of things. And yes, it makes little sense to me either when we're talking guys who stand to make more money from the endorsement side of the business.
Andray Blathce: New Coach, new player? What a stat line last night: 25 points, 12 boards, 5 assists, 2 steals and 5 blocks in 29 minutes
Let's keep our eyes peeled. He's a big time talent.
Any wines you recommend for Thanksgiving? I have a woman coming over I'm trying to impress.
My wife is the wine expert in this house, but I'd suggest the best way to impress her is to leave the tv off and treat her with kindness and respect. Ask about her family more so than the food!
I just joined a gym and am going to start playing pick-up hoops again; however, I am + 15-20 lbs (and 30-something). Should I train before I play or just round into shape as I run?
Both. Get warmed up and stretched before each game by doing some basic drills first.
George Hill: What's his ceiling?
I'm not sure yet. But he made a big move in my report.
David, does it make the sports world a better or worse place for ESPN to devote 90% of its basketball coverage to things that can't occur for over 19 months, involving principles that can't possibly have firmly made up their minds on the subject? Isn't there legitimate news/analysis to talk about?
Obviously you have never met my editors. I'll just say that if we're covering it, then it's something a whole lot of people want to read.
Thoughts on Javale McGee? He looks like a nice find for the Wiz.
Indeed he does.
Hey Thorpodontist will the raptors make a move or what. No one word answers.lol..hahaha
I think they are trying to find wing help, but they have few assets to part with.
How good was Derrick Rose in that Utah game?
Do you think Oscar Robertson was better than Magic Johnson?
Not remotely. But he was great.
David, could Orlando trade Turkoglu for Bargniani if they think Turkoglu will opt out, so they will get something back in return? Bargniani can play more at 4 for Orlando, shift Lewis to 3, and with Turkoglu Toronto, will Toronto be a better contender in the East?
Hedo is a far superior all around player. Bad move.
So what are your thoughts on E. Jordan getting the pink slip?? He get a raw deal or was it time for everyone to move on
Have no sympathy for Eddie. He'll be just like Tony Dungy back in the day-land on his feet with an even better contract. He's terrific.
Looking at your player rankings of those in the 20 to 30 range, who has the most chance to rise to the top 15 by seasons end? pass the stuffing!
Maybe Brandon Rush or Westbrook.
If you were starting a team, who would you pick for point guard: Paul, Williams, or Rose?
Paul. But it's tight.
Hey David. Everyone is talking about the Knicks clearing cap space in 2010 but wont the Bulls have plenty of cap space as well with Gooden's contract done after this year, Gordon not coming back and Hughes' contract up in 2010?? Why cant they be players for Bron, Wade and Bosh?
I'm sure the Bulls will be in the running for some A list guys.
LeBron = MVP, right?
He's on his way.
Favorite Thanksgiving Pie or dessert? I personally go with the classic Pumpkin Pie.
Anything my mother n law makes, as long as it does not have nuts.
J.J. Hickson.... Do you think he will develop into a star or fringe star for the Cavs?
I don't know yet, but he has star potential.
Greentings from Europe! Personally I don?t like but would love your opinion: Chris Kaman on the Bulls? ?Good?, ?Bad? or ?Have you been drinking??
Based purely on his game, I think it would be very good. I have heard negative things about his personality, though. I don't know what the truth is.
You were right about Wade. What a talent! What would it take for him to enter the MVP discussion?
Nothing. He's in.
DPOY so far has to be D.Howard, right?
Happy TURKEY DAY (almost) David! Do you think the Cavaliers will make a trade before the deadline to cement their chances of competing for a ring this year; what type of player will they look to add?
I think they will. Maybe a big that can shoot-those guys are always so valuable in the playoffs.
First Off, Happy Thanksgiving Thorpedo. I'm as big a laker fan as the next, and we are 11-1. But should i be worried by Kobe's recent shooting woes and just all around stats drop? I know he actually has a team around him now, but it just seems like things don't come as easy as they used to for the mamba.
Worry not at all. It's still just November.
Would Bosh and Rose would be a good match? Bosh would be in a big market and the Bulls would finally have low post scoring.
Bosh and anyone would be a good match. Ditto Rose.
Hey Coach, Is TT an example of how you can teach a player how to shoot but making him a scorer in a game situation is a completely different deal?
No, but I get your point. We didn't teach him how to shoot, he had excellent form before we ever met. And he's never been a scorer. Like many guys playing for a new coach, they are trying to figure out the best spots for each guy in the offense.
David!!!! Sup bro first off Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours..now answer this if you please..Mock drafts showed Spurs picking Mario Chalmers..but Geroge Hill has suprised many people..do you think the spurs made the right choice?
Yes, back in June. Yes today.
Is Johnny Flynn a Lottery Pick?
I'm not sure who will be in the draft, but he impressed the hell out of me.
Hi David - I see the ESPN lovefest for the Lakers has begun early this year. Somewhat understandable seeing how dominant they have been in the no D West. Unfortunately it looks like it is all for not again. Playoffs are about Defense and matchups and the Celtics are too strong for the Lakers. Don't waste my time with the canned ESPN response - Posey & Bynum. Tony Allen is playing better on both sides than Posey and see last years matchups when Bynum did play against the Celtics for the Bynum effect argument. Bottom line, only thing stopping Boston from a repeat is an injury to one of the Big 3 or Cleveland (who actually can matchup with size and strength). I guess the "experts" at ESPN will have to wait and see this again.
Eric, last year Boston was the #1 team on d all season, and it showed come playoff time. Guess who the #1 defensive team is right now? Oops, sorry about that. Give the lake show some props-they are demons on d.
Why isn't Popovich getting COY buzz? His team just weathered a blizzard and came out with a tan and swim trunks.
Thorpedo! what you think about travis outlaw? kid is raw and making huge strides, as the talent expert, what do you see?
He's becoming one of my faves in the league. I just always see him smiling and happy, and competing hard. Beautiful to see from such a talent.
With Rudy and Roy in Portland, and Blake playing well, am I alone in thinking that Bayless is a bad fit for that team?
Not a bad fit, just not a spot for him. As of today.
Dave, Would you please tell everyone to stop comparing Rose to me already! It'not close and he will never be greater.
Oh, it's close, and you should never say never.
Thorponator! It's funny to hear all these people write in excuses for why the Lakers are a mirage. Good to see the Lake show spreading fear again! Happy Thanksgiving, Mr. Family Man, and warmest regards to that wife who inspires so much love from her man!
It's no mirage. I think the Lakers learned from that beatdown in the Finals. Thanks for the kind wishes.
Sorry to ask twice, but I'm really interested in your perspective on this. Is there a method for attaching the strong side traps that the Lakers are using, or does each team need to approach it based on their talent?
Many strategies are available. Strong side screens to free up dribblers. Moving the top post player into the pinch post. Weak side flare screens to invite skip passes.
Many strategies are available. Strong side screens to free up dribblers. Moving the top post player into the pinch post. Weak side flare screens to invite skip passes.
hey thorpe, happy thanksgiving! am i right in thinking that nick calathes would be an ideal point guard to run d'antoni's offense?
I saw him play the other night, and he's the best pure pg I've seen in awhile from the college ranks.
Why is nobody talking about Jason Thompson and Spencer Hawes in Sacremento? Twin towers are playing some good ball.
Wake up Johnny. We are gaga over them.
I would raise my hand to be included in all these Best PG discussions but it's weighed down by 3 rings and a Finals MVP.
Might be the line of the chat season thus far.
Give some love to Javale McGee. I remember you throwing some doubt all over the man. A simple, ¨I was wrong¨ would suffice. Thorpedo you also messed up the quote a little. Donizetti's opera must have you off your game.
If Haywood was healthy, I'd doubt we'd see the same JM. What was wrong with the quote?
Great Chat Herr Thorpe, Do you think that if the Cavs played only their reserves yesterday the Knicks could have kept it within 20? It seems that if LeBron is looking for a supporting cast to win rings with, the Knicks had a bad, bad, bad, badbadbabadbadbad audition yesterday. Thoughts?
Matt, get over it. It's doubtful LBJ stays in Cleveland, no matter the talent around him.
Did someone call my name? I thought I heard someone mention big rookies who are playing great?
You did! Excellent stuff.
Just wanted to stake claim to the Tony Parker line and say I love your chats Thorpe. But my boss probably doesn't due to the productivity loss.
Tell him you are being inspired and therefore will be doubly productive.
What rookie are you most disappointed with this season?
Westbrook and Rush, a little.
Thorpe, I beg you, read Chad Ford's chats, learn something (like writing complete thoughts), then apply. Thanks.
Who's Chad Ford?
Here's my take on Derrick Rose. The driving ability of Tony Parker. The size of Deron Williams. The speed and elusiveness of Chris Paul, and the vision and passing ability of Jason Kidd? Am I right? High five?!?
Not sure about the vision thing. But he's amazing to watch.
If the Cavs know they will not be able to keep Lebron, why not put him in the trade market and see what you can get in return?
i heard that pistol pete would have averaged around 57 points a game if they had the three point line back then. does that sound accurate to you?
In college, yes.
You compare Eddie Jordan to Tony Dungy, but why not Doc Rivers?
Because I lived through and witnessed the Dungy saga here in town.
hawes or oden? bill bradly of the sac bee wrote an article on this today choosing hawes.
Of course he did. But right now I'd say Oden with ease. But I love Hawes.
Besides your family, who else would you like to spend Thanksgiving with?
Who does Coach Frank start going forward: Brook Lopez or Josh Boone? Who would you start?
I'll leave it up to him, he knows them better than me. Coach Frank is for real.
Why has Stuckey been so bad this year? Did Dumars really call this guy untouchable?
Good question. I need to watch him more, but I've noticed how underwhelming he's been.
Hey David, thanks for the chats. It seems to me that Cleveland is in a no-win situation. If they trade Lebron, the fans will have a mutiny because the Cavs won't show any effort in resigning him. If they let him become a FA and he bolts, the fans think the Cavs didn't do enough to sign him. Can this end well for the Cavs? I don't think there is any chance that Lebron stays.
Mr. Ferry must consider trading Bron if he's doing his job. He owes it to the fans to ensure Cleveland's future.
Who's the best pure passer in NBA history?
Why did it take more than 4 NBA seasons for someone to realize I should play off the ball?
You mean considering that's all you did in college?
Is it just me or is it possible that in the near future the lake show will have 5 all stars on the floor to start the game (kobe, bynum, gasol, farmar, and ariza)?
It's just you.
Rudy Fernandez's production has dropped off now that teams are closing out on his threes. As a coach, what counter move off the dribble should Rudy focus on developing?
Shot fake attack stuff.
Even though the Mavericks are currently 7-7, do you think they will be explosive come playoff time?
No-but strong is possible.
Come on. How do you call the Lakers the best defensive team in the league? The C's lead the league in opponents PPG and FG%.
Defensive efficiency has Lakers 1 and Celts 2.
You are putting Magic over John Stockton in passing?
you guys are crazy. Trade Lebron for what? Nothing they get back will help them win a title within the next two years. If/when Lebron leaves, shouldn't the Cavs have some space of their own to throw around?
Wouldn't you rather have cheap but young talent and some expiring deals?
Would a Kobe Bryant/ LeBron James final be the most-watched sporting event ever (in the US?)
No, but it'd be huge.
Does Jamaal Tinsley have value?
Only to his family.
From this years rookie class (not including Oden) would you say McGee has the highest potential given his athletic ability, and he even has a nice looking shooting stroke (not that you want him shooting jumpers).
I wouldn't go that far.
is steve nash the best shooter to ever play in the nba?
No, but he's closer than people realize.
If you could have thanksgiving dinner with 5 NBA players, coaches or GMs (past or present), who would it be? I'd love to have a conversation with Shaq, Kobe and Phil...
Yao, Yi, and a few translators.
"Wouldn't you rather have cheap but young talent and some expiring deals?"... ARE YOU KIDDING? Yeah I'd rather have that than a guy who can single-handedly make a terrible team into an Eastern Conference champion. C'OMON!!
Of course. But if he does not want you, you can't be left with a bare cupboard.
Thorpe, while I get your point, I don't think you trade Lebron until you HAVE to, because if Cleveland gets the Finals once or twice or if they win a title, I think it's much harder for Lebron to walk away from that. Given that they're legit contenders, you have to play it out. It would be irresponsible for Ferry to NOT play it out when his team has a real chance to win a title. That chance doesn't come along every day. Miami mortgaged their future for 1 ring with Shaq, and they'd do it again every day of the week. That's what you're supposed to do.
Agreed, to a point. Either way, I'd listen to offers this year but probably wait til next year for any potential deal.
Nuggets -- this year's dark horse?
Probably. Portland intrigues me too.
What do you think Yi Jianlian's ceiling is? Enough to be Dirk?
Top of the muffin, TO YOU, thorpedo. What in your eyes has been causing the Hornets' early-season struggles?
I've not studied them, but last year they were so good at grinding things out every possession. I bet they are not doing that now.
Early in the season I know, but would I be accurate if I said that at this point the only teams that look like true title contenders are Lakers, Celtics and Cavs?
Are the Raptors in trouble?
My chair is heating up....
I'm sorry but people are right, Thorpe. That "trade Lebron" talk is just wacko.
Call me in 2010 when they win 15 games.
David, Just out of curiosity, what makes you so sure LeBron won't stay in Cleveland?
Eric Gordon = Poor Man's Dwayne Wade with better range?
That's a ban.
Bring Yi an Yao over, i will translate for you! do you think the Jazz will challenge the Lake show in the west when they get healthy?
I do. Utah will be a team to watch in 2009.
How has a Jordan Farmar progressed? Do you think he can be the starting pg next season?
I would look great in a Bulls uniform.
And 29 other team jerseys too.
Roy Hibbert and Brandon Rush! Was this another BAD DRAFT year for the Pacers?
Unclear as of now.
Spurs are at like 35 million in 2010. Any chance at Bosh or Wade?
Maybe Bosh as a Texan.
The Ghost of NBA Past tells you to choose a small forward to build a team around, any small forward in league history... Bird? LeBron? Anybody else even in the discussion?
I'd go with Bird, but choosing LeBron would not be dumb.
Did you happen to catch Robin Lopez last night? He had a nice effort in place of Shaq. Any thoughts on him and what kind of player he can become?
I like him. He can be a nice big off the bench come playoff time.
I asked this in another chat, it was posted but no answer...why is MSG still considered the Mecca of basketball (as ESPN stated on the frontpage)? I am 30 years old and nothing has happened there of note in my lifetime.
I've been there a few times now, and I don't get it either.
ANother ESPN reporter that has ESP.. come on. Are you Lebron? how would you know? Please!
Of course none of us know. But we can read the writing on the wall. It needs to be continuously monitored, that's all I'm saying.
Better fit for the Magic? Crittenton, Lowry or Sergio?
Lowry-SVG loves tough defenders.
David, do you know anyone who has any influence on Don Nelson who get could him to freaking play Brandon Wright more? The kid is an absolute stud! Whats the hold up?
I wish I knew. Every time I watch him I like him.
What's up with Mike Conley?
That is the correct question. Shocking.
David, think Brad Miller gets traded this season?
No. Next year.
David, Thomas and Noah have looked terrible so far this year. Time for a change in scenery for either one?
Perhaps. I'm sure they are considering it.
You're riling up all of Cleveland Thorpe...I love it.
I'm just being honest. All LeBron has to do is say he loves his team and his city and he'll never leave unless the wheels come off.
Foye went off for 23/14 against Detroit. Sign of things to come? Or just one of those nights?
I think it might be a sign. Just a hunch.
Yeah, listen Biendris is holding down the rebounding fort on my fantasy team, so I can't have Brandon Wright suddenly take a jump in minutes. Nelly's too classy an individual to put me out in the cold that way.
Nice. AB is a beast, isn't he!!
David Thorpe: (12:56 PM ET ) I'm just being honest. All LeBron has to do is say he loves his team and his city and he'll never leave unless the wheels come off. LeBron did say that, at a Jay-Z concert in Cleveland supporting Obama...funny how that never gets mentioned
Did he say it in NY last night?
Dave, are you rockin a spray tan in your pic or is that all natural?
I live in Florida, and get a tan walking to my mailbox.
Would Lebron leave if the cavs won the title in 09 and had to defend in '10?
Time to roll. Sorry to upset my Cavs chatters, I love their team and think they are legit title contenders. I hope LBJ stays there his whole career. Be safe everyone and take time to thank your loved ones for loving you right back.