Aloha everyone. Thanks for coming to the chat. Obviously there's a lot of stuff flying around as the trade deadline gets close. Most of it is BS, but some of it is real. We'll try to sort it all out today. Let's roll.
I heard Warriors and the Bulls are the only two serious teams in the Amare trade. They are offering Biedris but he wont be back until after the All-star break due to injury. Doesn't this make the bulls the favorite now? Paxson must pull the trigger
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I have a hard time seeing how the Warriors are involved. Yes, the Suns like Anthony Randolph and Brandon Wright. But they also want expiring contracts. The Warriors don't have any of note. That means the Suns would have to take back Corey Maggette or another bad contract. They are going in the opposite direction. As for Biedrins and Monta Ellis? They are both base year compensation players which means they are very difficult to trade. So on paper it sounds great for both teams. But if you know anything about the cap, you know this is mostly hot air coming from the Warriors. The only caveat I'll add is if they can find a third team willing to take Maggette who'd offer an expiring contract in return. If that happened, the Warriors could do a three way that would make sense for the Suns.
Hi Chad, If in fact the Suns trade Stoudamire and maybe Shaq as well exactly why would Nash still be considered untouchable?
Because I think Steve Kerr feels like he can get away with trading Stoudemire and Shaq because their popularity has waned in Phoenix. Nash is still the franchise. Trade him and your building could be empty in a hurry. Instead I think they'll try to give him an extension when this is all done. The bigger question is ... would Nash take it? I don't think so.
What is Steve Kerr smokin? If I were a Suns fan I would be fuming at the fact my team is even considering trading our youngest, most talented player. If Amare does get traded, do you think its a financial move or a move to get better?
Mostly financial. Lots of teams, the Suns included, are hurting right now. The bad economy even effects billionaires. Primarily, the team needs to get under the luxury tax threshold by this summer. That means sluffing somewhere in the neighborhood of $7 to $9 million off the payroll. Ideally they'd cut even more. But it's also about the team. They are underachieving. They lack any intensity and Stoudemire has been the poster child for that. So both factors are in play. But if the Suns were making lots of money, I think they'd be looking for a different mix in return for Amare.
Ray - Suns fan here. Its called addition by subtraction. Amare is a Drama Queen, has not improved, has fallen in love with his J this year, doesn't play defense or rebound. I can't wait until he is gone.
I think that sort of sums up what I've heard from a lot of Suns fans.
CHAD, Thomas better than Beasley? Is Kerr really that stupid? What's your opinion on this? I think Beasley is extremely talented. He plays less the 25 minutes and the game just comes too easy for him...
It's too early to tell. Tyrus Thomas has incredible physical gifts. I'm just not sure he knows how to play. Beasley really knows how to play, but he's struggling right now. Personally, I think Amare, as a player, is light years ahead of either guy right now.
Would a deal for Amare already be done,if the all-star game was not being hosted in Phoenix?
Maybe. It's an issue. But not a huge one. As I just stated, it isn't like Suns fans are in love with Amare at the moment. Actually, the Suns are one of the rare teams that don't just wait around until the last 48 hours of the trade deadline. If they find the right deal, I'm told they'll pull the trigger immediately.
Shouldn't the Suns just fire Kerr and hire someone who knows what he's doing? The guy just seems utterly incompetent and seems totally inflexible in his approach in building a championship team. He seems to think the only way to build a championship team is to follow the Spurs/Bulls footprints when he does not have that type of personnel. Now he's entertaining the idea of trading a young stud in Amare. Do you know if his job is in any jeopardy because I think he should've been fired a long time ago.
I don't think you can pin this all on Kerr. He's a brilliant guy. Really. I'm not sure the GM is the right role for him, but I think he'd be the first to admit it. I think ownership also plays a big role. And yeah, I think they've made some mistakes along the way. But if they had just kept their picks and re-signed guys like Joe Johnson when they had the chance, I think they would be in great shape. Firing Kerr, at this point, won't help things. And, don't forget, his owner and good friend, Robert Sarver, had to talk Kerr into taking this job. It would be very shady for him to turn around and fire him now.
Chad, please tell me Joe Dumars has a plan ready to execute. How do you see him playing his chips as this trade deadline approaches?
I think the plan is more tied to the summer of 2009 and summer of 2010. This summer, especially, the Pistons can be in the drivers seat. They'll have lots of cap room and very little competition on the open market. To do a deal now, the Pistons would have to be persuaded that it's better than something they could do this summer. I'm not sure any deal, Amare included, has persuaded them of that. If Chris Bosh were available, then I think they'd change their tune.
Chad, Shawn Marion will finally be traded for who? There has been like 10 players linked to the Heat!
Don't know ... but I think he will be traded. Obviously the Heat would love to get their hands on Amare. Tyson Chandler is another real possibility. So is Carlos Boozer. The team needs a dominant big to pair with Dwyane Wade. If they can't find it at the trade deadline, they'll have to wait until the summer of 2010. I'm not sure Pat Riley's that patient.
Chad. I have seen some rumors linking the Spurs to Vince Carter. This deal makes no sense to me since the Spurs are good at guard and really need a big man. Wouldn't it be more prudent to pursue Camby, Miller or Sheed?
I found that a little odd too. And I don't think they have enough assets to get him. Carter makes a ton of money and they don't have a lot of contracts to throw his way. Sheed would make a lot of sense for them. But again, what are they offering? Bruce Bowen and Oberto appear to be the two guys they keep dangling. Neither has a huge appeal for most teams.
Have you heard whether Portland has considered going after Caron Butler? Would the Wizards be willing to part with him if the Blazers took on Etan Thomas' contract as well?
It would be something the Blazers would have to look at. I know they've been looking at everyone from Mike Miller to Richard Jefferson. Butler is probably better than both of those guys. And yes, I think that Raef LaFrentz's expiring contract is enough bait to lure one of those big time players. That's why I remain pretty bullish that the Blazers will move LaFrentz before the deadline.
Chad, in your mind what avenue should Colangelo and the Raps go before the deadline? Do you move Oneal for cap relief, Bargnani while his value is high or Bosh if you believe he isn't re-signing ?
Tough call. If they can move Jermaine O'Neal for cap relief, I think that's priority No. 1. I think they'll wait until this summer to address the Bosh situation, though personally, I think Bryan Colangelo maybe waiting too long. His trade value goes down the longer he waits. As for Bargnani, I don't think they're trading him. With Bosh likely out of the door in another year and a half, they need someone to build around.
Will the Knicks trade David Lee?
Another tough one. Donnie Walsh is trying to work out a deal for Jared Jeffries or Eddy Curry. If he does that, they'll keep Lee and re-sign him this summer. If he doesn't, it's a big gamble. Don't trade him and you can be sure a team with cap space will make a serious run at him this summer. The Pistons and Thunder, for example, both have room to go after him. If they offer too much, the Knicks could lose him for nothing. However, they could wait, try to move Jeffries or Curry in the summer or hope that with the deteriorating financial markets, no one puts up the cash for Lee. Most GMs are risk averse and would trade him for, at the very least, a good draft pick. Donnie Walsh may play it out and take the risk.
Chad... what should Ed Stefanski do with Andre Miller? There's no indication he wants to re-sign in Philly this summer but the team is only 3 games out of the 4th seed and having homecourt in a playoff series. Shouldn't the Sixers be looking at the bigger picture with Brand than looking short term for this year???
They were in the same boat last year and kept Miller. He has value, but not as much as you'd think because teams don't know what will happen with him this summer. Right now their best bet is to probably hold onto him. I doubt they can get enough for him on the open market to justify doing a deal.
CHAD, How come there is not trade buzz around Carlos Boozer, I hope we trade this guy or risk losing him for nothing!
IF he was healthy, there'd be much more buzz. Boozer is slated to practice for the first time since November today. But he isn't expected to make his return until after the All-Star break on Feb. 17. If he was healthy, teams like the Heat and Pistons could come looking to make a deal. But right now, there are just too many question marks for the Jazz to get much value in return for him.
Chad, talk to me like I'm a 2 year-old. Why would a team like the Bucks trade Richard Jefferson for Laefrentz's expiring contract? The contract will expire, the Bucks will get some cap relief, and then they can spend that money on...a player of the Richard Jefferson-level! What am I missing?
I don't think they'd trade him so that they could go back out and re-spend the money. In this cash, it would be to pare down their payroll to stop Senator Kohl from hemorrhaging so much cash. With Redd out for the season and Bogut out for 2 months, this team just isn't a contender. But they have a whopping $70 million dollar payroll. It's not a basketball decision, it's a financial one. That's the reality in the NBA right now.
How cool would it be if the NBA got rid of the cap?
Will never happen. In fact, I won't be surprised to see owners try to strengthen it. Player salaries have gotten out of control. Given the financial mess everywhere, I think you'll see them make some efforts to get their costs under control. In other words, I think you'll see teams getting more fiscally responsible, not less, in the coming years.
With the rumor that the Clippers offered Baron Davis for Corey Maggette. Do you think the Warriors should take it? Even if it means swallowing there pride cause they could have had him for 3 years and less money?
I don't know. Interesting that the teams swapped players via free agency and both got worse. Now Davis' deal looks rididculous and so does Maggette's. Here's the good news if your a Warriors fan ... at least your only on the hook for $48 million. The Clippers owe Davis $65 million.
Will someone take McGrady off our hands/books?
It will be tough right now. Next summer, however, when TMac is in the last year of his contract, they'll get more offers. One possibility is Vince Carter ... just because it would give the Nets even more cap room to play with in 2010.
If a Chandler-Marion deal were to happen, do the Hornets really think they can win with a run-n-gun style or would it simply be a cost-cutting move?
Cost cutting. The Hornets are on the verge of paying the luxury tax next year. They need to lower payroll. Ideally they'd move Peja. But no one is taking him.
Chad Brian Windhorst reported today that with the rash of injuries the Cavs have suffered, most recently Pavlovich, it is looking like Wally S. and his $13 mil expiring contract is going to stay put. Do you think this is a mistake given the quality players currently on the table that can help the Cavs? I would think they are in need of healthy bodies at this point. They can also move Eric Snow's $7 million contract as well as young players such as JJ Hickson and Daniel Gibson. Wally has already stated that if he was traded he would seek a buyout to return to the Cavs. Is it a good idea to just avoid trades now?
It's probably a mistake. It's a buyers market right now and lots of teams are looking for expiring deals. The Cavs could use the help, especially at the two ... just seems like they should be able to get some serious bang for the buck. If they do nothing, they just wasted an asset.
Does John Paxson FINALLY pull the trigger and make a deal for a superstar?
He better. I'm not sure he wants to be known as the guy who, while in desperate need of a big man, passed on everyone from KG, to Pau Gasol, to Amare. With that said, I'm not sure the Bulls have enough to do an Amare deal. Tyrus Thomas is a nice asset. So is Drew Gooden's expiring contract. They can offer more young players (like Noah or Sefalosha) or draft picks. But from the sounds of things, the Suns may have a better offer. Too bad. A combo of Derrick Rose, Luol Deng and Stoudemire would bring a lot of hope back to fans in Chicago.
Chad, as you stated the Pacers have a ton of assets, do you see them making a move and who would you target?
They have them. But first they have to figure out which way this team is going. The Pacers are a huge enigma. They can beat the Lakers, Celtics and Magic. But then they lose to teams like the Timberwolves and Warriors. I think they have a lot of talent. They may need to make a coaching change first. Their defense is just awful.
Chad, What you expect from the Mavs in the next 9 days?
You've got to believe that Mark Cuban wants to do a deal. His team is getting older. The window is closing. He has some assets. I think they pull the trigger on something. But I'm not sure what ... yet. If Cuban was willing to spend the money, a Shaq for Jason Kidd deal is intriguing. Given that the Suns would likely waive Kidd after getting him, they could re-sign him and have a pretty solid ground in the playoffs.
in light of the morrison trade, do you think the lakers are done making moves, or do you think they'll try to fill bynum's big shoes with another center?
I don't think they're making a big deal. From what I gather talking to teams around the league, the Lakers have been really quiet.
What were the Laker movitations in trading for Morrison? Will he help out more than Radman?
No. That was a salary dump all the way. I doubt Morrison sees any minutes in LA. Shannon Brown is more likely to play than Morrison is.
The Bobcats have made a lot of moves - any more up their sleeve? Felton perhaps?
I think if they can move Felton they'll do it. D.J. Augustin is their point guard of the future. Felton has value. If it happens, Larry Brown has almost completely remade this team in a few months. And frankly, I think they're better.
Are you excited for the game of HORSE at the all-star weekend? I think it could be pretty entertaining.
I'm so excited. Finally an All-Star weekend event I can throw my arms around. It's going to be awesome.
Gotta run everyone. Let's do it again next week.