Hey everyone! Welcome to today's WSOP chat. A really big final table starts in a couple hours and we're lucky enough to have this one on ESPN360.com. Starting at 5 p.m. watch John Juanda, David Benyamine, Roland de Wolfe, Michael Binger, Nick Schulman and more battle it out.
Now that the promo is out of the way, send in the questions and we'll get going in a couple
When a player wins a big tourney (i.e. million(s) of dollars), how are they paid?
Any way they'd like. The casino offers them to be paid in casino chips (which the casinos would love to do), check, cash, wire transfer. I don't think anyone who wins a big tournament wants to carry the cash around with them. Most of the big names usually take the chips and put them in their boxes at each casino. I'd say the majority of the first time winners go for the check/wire option.
What happened to Kirk Morrison? He was crushing tournaments in 2007 and then he just disappeared (again). Is he back in New Zealand or have you heard anything about him recently?
I actually had this conversation yesterday with someone else in the poker media. Kirk has dropped off the face of the earth again and we're assuming he's out of the country. Maybe he's done with poker again? Maybe he'll show up for the last few weeks. If I hear more in the next couple days, I'll fill you in.
How would you answer the question, "Is Poker a Sport"?
The question of all questions. I think I have a different answer and a different rationalization each time I'm asked. This time around, I'm going to say that it is a game with certain characteristics of a sport. Are poker players athletes? Not really, but they need to be able to go through a 12-hour session with ease...Would love to hear all your thoughts....
What is your opinion of online Poker websites?
Nothing wrong with them. Especially the ESPN Poker Club where you can win a seat to the WSOP main event. We're giving the seat away on Sunday and anyone who isn't in the final tournament already will need to qualify through the last chance tournament tomorrow night. I think playing online is a great venue for practice and education.
Why don't I have a sponsorship deal with Nike?
I think if you wanted one, you could get one. The thing is that you aren't really putting yourself out there for any new endorsement deals and thus, no companies really know you're interested.
Andrew, if Phil can win 3million in prop bets for a bracelet or I can win 96K if I beat him, why wouldn't I get a some of the 3mill action and take a dive?
Great question, but the truth is that it's worth more for a player to say he's won a bracelet than to get paid off. I don't think Monnette took a dive in any shape or form, but Phil outplayed him at the end.
Where do you think Poker currently sits on its popularity curve? I feel as though it hit its peak two-three years ago, and is on a VERY slow decline. Thoughts?
As much as I'd like to say the curve is still at the top, we all know it isn't. That said, I still think that poker has a very strong following, especially the WSOP. I would say it's probably 1/4 down the peak of the bell curve at a very slow, gradual rate.
Do you have the same opinion about the overseas "real money" poker websites? I personally have steered clear ever since the Dateline/60 Minutes stories about people cheating.
Just getting back to you for a second, yes, I have the same opinions there. The Absolute Poker scandal was painful for the industry to watch, but the truth is that what the guy was doing was hitting a major loophole, one that any site, has locked up in the first stages of development. I would not be worried about something like that happening these days.
Congrats on the cash in event 24. How does the rest of the tourney suit your style?
Haha, I wish that was me. That would be the Full Tilt Red Pro Andrew Feldman from overseas. Unreal how he's destroying my name ;-), but GL to him...although I'd rather be the first Andrew Feldman to win a bracelet.
Is bowling a sport?
Generally, how does a Pokerstars pro deal work? Are there tournaments paid for by the site, yearly salary, etc?
An endorsement deal works in many different ways for many different players. It depends on how big of a name you are and what type of deal. Some players simply have an online deal where they don't pay rake. Other players (which is probably what you're asking) get paid enough by the site that they are obliged to play in the big events. All of them have contracts and I'd say that if your site wants you to play somewhere, you're playing.
Outside of the US, is poker more popular is less popular? Also, is Hold Em the most popular game outside of the US as well?
More popular, but you're looking at Omaha and not hold 'em. The boom is just starting in some regions while it declines (in the fashion mentioned before) in the US.
Andrew: Who do you see having a solid second 1/3 at the WSOP.Anyone flying under the radar who should have a big run?
Erick Lindgren and Bertrand Grospellier were my first two picks in the ESPN Fantasy Poker draft. I'm waiting on both of them to make a nice run in the next 1/3 of the WSOP.
What was up with Mike yesterday? He was dogging out Daniel like crazy, and being a little cry baby. "Oh I'm so unlucky, I play perfect poker and never get there, and people like Daniel play awful and get rewarded, boo hoo!" Grow up dude, it's poker and there's variance. He talks about how much he's changed, when in reality sounds like he's just been hanging out with Hellmuth too much.
I was actually shocked at how bitter he was about Daniel, but he picked up on it too. He may not approve of Daniel's luck the last few weeks, but he can't argue with the results. I think Mike was exhausted and I could hear it in his voice. And he has most definitely changed. He is not the same person he was two years ago and whether you thought yesterday was "old mike", it wasn't even close.
If Villie Wahlbeck were named Ivey or Negreanu wouldn't he be the story of the series so far, well maybe after Parker?
Wait for him to win the bracelet today as well. He is the story...and Lance Bradley at bluff told me after he won his first bracelet, "That kid can play."
Was "Tilt" the worst TV series ever?
There must be worse series than Tilt. Open to suggestions...anyone?
How's Scotty's quest for $4 million going? I haven't heard his name mentioned much at all.
Umm...he's behind. Like $4 million.
I liked Tilt! I was hoping they'd do another season!Anyway, AJ - how is Phil doing in his NL event, and if I play a $1,500 NLHE event next year, what are my odds he'll be playing the same one?
Sorry about that delay, just got Brock Parker on today's podcast...
Phil busted in the 10K PLO Split, and right now he's hanging out with the tiltboys. If you play a 1500 next year, chances are, he's not playing in it.
How do you think most online players adjust to real life tournaments?
It depends on the experience as a whole. If you're an online player who has never stepped foot in a real casino, you'll need to take some time to adjust, no matter what. However, online players seem to adjust quickly to new situations and I would say within a few levels or so, they'll get back into the poker playing groove.
How do the 1500 NL events match up to the "Deep stack" tourneys at Caesar's, venetian, etc. in terms of how much play is afforded?
This has been quite a topic of debate in Vegas as now Caesars has made their tournaments even deeper with the initial add-on padding the stacks. They definitely give you the most play these days. In comparison to the $1,500 buy-ins at the WSOP, I'd say that the blind levels at Caesars will go up quicker and eventually those extra chips don't even matter.
Tilt was awful, but it still has the best poker quote of any TV series or movie ever-"The first hour at the table, you play like the player you want to be. After that, you play like the player that you are. The key is figuring out how to make the player you are into the player you want to be."
The TV Series based on the Geico Cavemen....whenever a TV show is based on a comercial...you know you are in trouble.
Aside from the obvious, do you have a favorite pocket Hold Em hand to play?
As-Js...hence why I'm AJ Suited at the ESPN Poker Club.
What celebrity or athlete would you say is the most talented poker player?
Good question. I would say that Orel Hershiser and Ray Romano would fit in those categories. Shannon Elizabeth has been playing a lot at the WSOP, including the $3,000 HORSE the other day, but her results aren't there so far this year. I'd say she's one of the most dedicated to playing.
with the 30k starting stack in the ME... what are the chances of getting to day 2?
You're playing five levels on Day 1. That's 10 hours at really low blind levels...Unless you play reckless or take just a horrendous beat, you should be able to make it through to Day 2. Just play smart...you can't win the tournament on Day 1.
What's your favorite sport to watch and/or play?
Baseball...big series this weekend with the Mets vs. Yankees.
Best TILT quote was actually something to this extent: Stunned Russian: "You played that like you had a pair!?!" Main character, Eddie?: "I played those because I have a pair"
how do you possibly remember TILT quotes!
Do you think Jerry Yang will make another final table ever again? Along with that, Matusow ranked the last 5 ME champions, what would your rankings be?
No. He won't. My list would be in terms of TOURNAMENTS, from worst to best -- and champs who follow this, don't hate me...Yang, Gold, Eastgate, Raymer, Hachem
Of the top poker players, who is the worst gambler? I know you have said that Gus Hansen likes to bet sports for lots of money...
TJ Cloutier. Then Mark Seif likes to make terrible bets...and Phil Gordon always loves to make bets against Gavin Smith...
its called imdb.com andrew.. it has everything
Wow. That Internet thing is pretty valuable...
If I'm a positive 6.5 pokertracker BB player at .10-.25 NL after 30,000 hands. How many hands of losing at .25 -.50 should I play before I drop back down?
I don't think in terms of hands, it's more in terms of your bankroll and how many buy-ins you feel comfortable having at each level. Not bad though Joe...
Raymer is above and beyond Hachem and its not even close.. not even close
It was a toss up between those two....
Andrew, the media event's format has been changed to dream team style, do you like that?
Myself, Gary Wise and Bernard Lee are team ESPN. Do I like the structure -- yes, I love the dream team structure, but after bubbling the media event last year, I want personal, not team, redemption.
you left out moneymaker on your rankings...
He said last five years. I'd put money in between Eastgate and Gold.
How big a deal at the WSOP is the DOJ seizure of $30 million in funds that were being transfered from online poker sites? Is that getting a lot of discussion at the Rio, or are people just shrugging it off?
Nobody is just shrugging it off, but until all the details come through, we can't make an accurate assessment of just how detrimental it will be. I'm saying bump in the road and I'm glad that the PPA is battling for poker players everywhere.
Penguins or Red Wings?
My wife would kill me if I said the Pens, so Wings. Been a great couple weeks of hockey...
my TILT quoting came straight off the top of my head. and i love using it all the time. i am very cool.
When you are classifying pros versus amatuers, does it matter if a pro plays primarily tourneys versus cash games? What percetage of the pros are tourney specialists (like a Phil Hellmuth). Any Mike Caro sightings? Has poker passed someone like that by or is he someone who now primarily focuses on cash games?
A professional poker player is a professional poker player. Tournaments or cash games. I'd say that most players aren't tourney specialists because they needed to get a starting bankroll somewhere. Many pros started out in the cash games, play the tournaments for a shot at glory, and go back to the cash games.
It seems players make so many prop bets on a whim, do they just try to remember how people owe them if they don't get paid right away (and how are they usually paid on the bets)?
I bring this up to Phil all the time who says that "he owes me money" anytime I mention a name. I think that the bets continue to go on and that the players get paid sporadically when one wins a tournament and has the funds to pay back.
Also, Andrew. I met you last year in the media tournament where I placed 3rd. Not sure if I knocked you out or not, but it was a good time.
Wonderful Ted. NH sir ;-)
in fact, i believe you said i could sit in on a chat during last years WSOP, not like participate, but just watch you do it, but i never took you up on the offer. we WSOP interns were busy
And y'all do a great job.
Hello, how often are the final tables at the WSOP chopped and the players are only playing for the bracelet?
Harrah's has made it clear that chopping is against the rules of the WSOP. If players are still chopping, they're probably being very covert and picking up on it would be more difficult than you think.
TILT is to TV as Gavin Smith is to poker. Both are poorly made and hyped too much.
Based on what you've seen so far, would you take the under or over on the $50K HORSE event having the most entrants in the 4-year history of the event?
Under. Too many players bought in to the $40,000 event to have another $50,000 just sitting around. I can't imagine a backer being too happy to drop $90000 in two tournaments. It won't be down by much, but I think the entires will be down overall.
Do you agree with Mike when he said Pros are getting tired of hold'em or do you think they are just moving to games that they have more of an advantage at?
They're most definitely playing the smaller events because winning a bracelet means going through hundreds of players, not thousands.
Do players tip the dealers after winning (or placing high in a tourney)? Doesn't Harrah's already take out a percentage for them?
Yes, Harrah's takes out a piece and players do tip additionally. Obviously it isn't required, but if a dealer makes you a good amount of money, you can throw a couple bills their way...
Do you think Doyle and TJ should retire? Doyle never seems too interested (he is probably making a killing just showing up), and I haven't seen TJ do well in about 10 years.
No. They aren't going to retire. Poker is what gets them going in the morning. They're going to continue playing until they can't shuffle chips anymore.
I was a big fan of US Poker tournament and didn't see it televised this year by ESPN is the tournament still around or did ESPN just not televise it
The USPC still occurs every year, but we no longer televise it.
There seem to be a lot of repeat final tablists early in this world series (more than previous years)-are we in for the best POTY race since Schneider almost got run down at the end?
No doubt about that. I think that Wahlbeck, Parker, Negreanu and Sung are definitely going to be playing as much as possible to keep the race very tight. I picked up Wahlbeck in the fantasy poker league, dropping Gavin Griffin.
How big of a bankroll should I have to play $20,000 worth of events at the wsop?
Entirely up to you, but I'm not risking everything I have during one WSOP. I think for you to risk $20, I'm holding $50-$60 in my pocket.
Andrew, I love poker and used to play alot and win alot but I would get called out for playing "b.s" hands. I know the odds aren't in favor of low cards winning but if you've got a feeling why can't you just play it without being chastized? After all, it is gambling isn't it? And so what if you catch a "b.s" card on the river, the river counts just as much as any card.
The players that get angry for you for playing "BS" hands are bitter that you took their chips. The fun part of poker is that on any hand, any two cards might be the best if you play them the right way.
Ok, that's it for me. Brock Parker will be on the Poker Edge podcast today, the 2-7 lowball final table will be broadcast on ESPN360.com starting at 5, the ESPN Poker Club is giving away its WSOP main event seat this weekend and I'll be back Monday to recap the weekend's action and take your questions. Thanks for the chat today, see you next week.