Hey everyone. Welcome to today's WSOP chat. Another big night last night with Greg Mueller winning his first bracelet. Mueller, a former professional hockey player must have been excited to see the Stanley Cup at the Rio...Send the questions in, I'll get started in a moment.
I am a great poker player, but never have a bankroll and don't get to play much (due to life, family, etc). My concern is when I do gather up some $$ to play I don't want to play NLHE cash game bc someone could bad beat me for everything, but the only limit game here is 3-6 which is a bad game and hard to overcome the bad players and rake. What do I do? What's my strategy if I do play the No limit game. I'm not a scared player but I don't get to play too often so I want to make the most of it.
Zach - building a bankroll is difficult, but you need to understand your limitations as well. I wouldn't be putting my entire bankroll on the table so that if I do get bad beat, it won't be for everything that I have -- which seems like what you're saying here. If the only limit game there is $3/$6, learn the game and learn how to profit from it. Yes, it's not as exciting as NL for some, but if you can beat the game, you'll be building your bankroll and can then take bigger shots. I wouldn't play the NL game if there's concern that if you go bust, that's it. If you're playing scared, you certainly will not be playing at your best and most likely, someone else at the table could pick up on it.
Are they still going to broadcast the $1500 NLHE event tonight even though it's not down to the final table yet?
Yes. They'll broadcast starting with the final 10 I believe...
Whats the PoY standings looking like currently right now at the WS? Ivey has to be up there.
Ville Wahlback, Phil Ivey, Brock Parker, James Van Alstyne and Pete Vilandos are the top 5. Negreanu is in sixth.
I haven't won a bracelet in several days. Will this horrible downswing ever end?
Haha, well former Mr. Ivey, you're busy playing every event, but the odds of winning one are slim. Two next to none and three? Well, that's just pushing things. Don't worry though, you'll be back at the final table soon enough.
Any chance we ever see a different 'boom' in terms of card/games. Do video games get a world series down the road? Does crazy 8's take over for poker one day? lol
I think the national gaming league ... I think that's the name ... for Video Games has come and gone. I just don't think that at this point, I know of another card game that could possibly get as much action as poker.
Which happens first? Ivey wins a hold'em bracelet or Hellmuth wins a non-hold'em bracelet?
Ivey wins a hold 'em. Hellmuth's next bracelet will be in hold 'em as well.
Side note -- remember Fruit Stripe gum? Someone just gave me a piece and it is about as terrible as I remembered. Over under on flavor lasting: 2 minutes?
Your attempts to get a pro to chat failed I'm guessing?
Yes. They're all playing in that thing known as the WSOP...I really can't believe they wouldn't take some time out and chat...I mean, there's another event tomorrow!
Let's say Ivey, Doyle, Negreanu, Hellmuth, Greenstein and Chan are playing the Big Game, which player would they most like to see sit down with them?
Anyone they don't recognize. To answer seriously, probably some onliner who has been crushing and thinks he's ready to take a real shot in the big game. I can imagine that most of the time, that doesn't work out so well.
How many players are they expecting for the 50k HORSE event? Is the 40k event at the beginning of the series going to effect how many people participate this year?
The initial $40K tournament has definitely hurt some bankrolls, so while there were 148 last year. I'm looking at 130 to take a shot this year. I would love to see an increase, but I don't think it's going to happen.
First James Van Alstyne scores a victory, then Greg "FBT" Mueller follows suit. These are 2 names who weren't generally listed as "best never to have wona bracelet" (because they don't get as much tv time) but should have been. Who is next?
I don't think that either one was on that list to start, regardless of TV time. My top three right now are Andy Bloch, Justin Bonomo and Gus Hansen
That list changes daily
Under. I think setting the over/under at about 45 secs. might get a little more action.
It was actually over at 2 minutes and 6 seconds. But still, not the best tasting gum out there
Interesting question about other potential games for a similar "poker" boom. One thing that poker had was that most people have played some form of it - 5 card draw, Anaconda - playing for pennies with friends and families.There are plenty of other card games - but the question is can they be made into games for which there would monetary interest.Bridge is something that was popular in the 70's but doesn't seem to have caught on with this generation. Gin Rummy was another game that was generally played for cash in some circles.Backgammon also has a definite gambling edge to the game. In fact, I believe that Party Poker had created a backgammon gambling site just before they closed off to the US market (Party Gammon?).
Real good point here Rob. Backgammon is played for incredibly high stakes by some poker players, but for it really to take off it will need some TV support and I don't know any network that will show it. Thoughts?
After re-reading that question from JJ Putz, I think the answer for the next player who will win that isn't on the best w/out a bracelet list is probably Tony Cousineau. How many times can you make it into the money without a win!?!
Does Gus really belong on that list? It seems he along with several other pros dont really put to much time into these tournament. Also, whats happened to the Mizrachi brothers seems they've fallen off the planet?
I think Gus has proven with WPT wins and a win at the Aussie Millions that when he plays, he's definitely talented enough to be on the list. I think Hansen's approach this year is a lot like Iveys in the past as he's just not that into the tournaments this year.
And the Mizrachis are definitely around. I don't think they're falling apart, but I would've expected more from both this summer.
Hi Andrew, is there a special list you need to be on in order to play in Bobby's Room? How do the online young gun stallions fare vs. the live pros there? Thanks!
No special list, but you're going to need to have a lot of money...That's the beauty of poker, anyone with $$ can give it a shot at any level. I think that initially all the young players struggle, but they get used to it quickly and are given a ton of respect.
If ESPN had a choice of who they would want at the ME final table, who would it be, for tv ratings sakes?
I can't answer for the TV guys, but in my mind, a table of Negreanu, Hellmuth, Brunson, Matusow, Ivey, Dwan, Shannon Elizabeth, Jason Alexander, and an amateur with the chip lead would be the best. I'm sure I'm forgetting someone in there, but yea, that'll do.
Andrew - can you divulge a little info on being a FTP pro? What perks do you receive? thx!
That's apparently the more poker-talented Andrew Feldman. He's a cash game specialist from London and it's great getting confused as a FT pro...but it's not me. From what I do know about most deals, players get paid per hour and are given full rakeback for online. As far as live play, it's part of whatever deal you sign, but some players get their entry fees paid while others put up their own money. It really depends on your status in the poker world. I can't imagine the other Andrew Feldman is reaping those benefits yet.
Andrew, any ideas on who this Robert Merulla kid is? I see he's been cashing in almost every WSOP event he's played in. Seems like it's almost a matter of time before he wins a bracelet.
He only has two WSOP cashes...not sure I'm putting him at the top of the list yet...
Shannon Elizabeth? Jason Alexander? Why them two?
Both for the celebrity factor, but shannon because...well...she's Shannon Elizabeth and Jason Alexander because if George made a final table, I think all of Seinfeld's fans would watch.
Do most top pros only play live because online is rigged?
Not rigged. And a lot of the top pros play online as well.
Once I'm asking about the local pros, where would you rank Vanessa Rousso in terms of a top 10 woman's rankings considering the years she's had (2nd NBC Heads up; won the high rollers event; cashed the 40k WSOP)?
She's had an unbelievable year including an endorsement deal with GoDaddy.com. I'd say right now she's at the top of rankings for female poker players. All-time, she's still behind Kathy Liebert, Jennifer Harman and Annie Duke. That could obviously change as she has a long career ahead of her.
Live poker is rigged
If online isn't rigged how come I ALWAYS lose AK vs. QJ when I'm all in!?
QJ is the nuts? It's not rigged, but yes, bad beats happen all the time. Eventually all those bad beats will swing your way and you'll go on an unbelievable run.
Andrew to follow up on Jeremy - This kid is Gmoney online and has been ripping up the online tournament scene (cash as well) do you think hes the "next young gun" to win a bracelet?
Thanks for clarifying. There are so many young online up and comers it's hard to keep track of them all. I still say Durr or Issac Baron will be first.
Hi Andrew, why was my question posted but not answered? Thanks.
The answer is there! I promise!
The other day the Mike the Mouth said the $40k destroyed the WSOP. Put players in too big a hole early. I say that is BS. If he or anyone else couldn't afford to lose that much, then don't play in the event. If they don't get a good turnout they won't bring it back. Sounds simple to me....
Have you ever met a poker player who doesn't want to gamble it up to play in the biggest new event of the WSOP? Hate to state the obvious, but many poker players are about the worst people in the world when it comes to managing finances.
I am VERY good at MTT's online. I've played like 30 of the $2 .20's on Pokerstars and I have like a 200% ROI. Do you think my success would translate into good results at the $1,500 NLHE events?
I think you need to be playing at higher stakes before even considering entering the $1500s. I think if you can consistently do well at the $50 tournaments, your play will translate to the WSOP.
...you actually didn't answer Tom's question. You answered another question under his.
I did! see: Tom Ato (Encore, LV): Andrew - can you divulge a little info on being a FTP pro? What perks do you receive? thx! Del Edit Andrew Feldman: That's apparently the more poker-talented Andrew Feldman. He's a cash game specialist from London and it's great getting confused as a FT pro...but it's not me. From what I do know about most deals, players get paid per hour and are given full rakeback for online. As far as live play, it's part of whatever deal you sign, but some players get their entry fees paid while others put up their own money. It really depends on your status in the poker world. I can't imagine the other Andrew Feldman is reaping those benefits yet.
You need to trademark your name, so people wouldn't confuse you with the other Andrew Feldman. Andrew Feldman(TM).
I think he'd have more of a right to do that than me.
Great Poker Edge release today. After listening to that and seeing some recent video's of Mike Matusow interviews, is he on some sort of anti-depressant medication? Gone, seems to be the 2008 positive attitude and optimism. He seems a bit...dulled (best way I can describe it)....and back more on the negative side. Heh, maybe I should get the book. What's your perspective after interviewing him yesterday?
Thanks for listening Lon. For all those that didn't hear yet, Matusow was on the Poker Edge and was in typical Mouth form. I think he was the first guest we had to repeatedly bleep out. He is definitely on some medication as he admitted here last week and it's great that he can try to stay positive during the run he's having. That said, he was much more upbeat last week and maybe the grind is getting to him. I wouldn't bet against him in the main event though. He does everything right in that tournament. And I really do want to read his book.
I'm interested in what the pros get for wearing the patches. I assume the top pros get some dough up front and their entry fees paid. But what about the newer stars like some of the November 9 who showed up in patches?
Those deals are negotiated as the field shrinks, but with the new rule this year will really open up the ballgame as there can be only three players of one sponsorship at the table at a time. Yes, so that means if Negreanu, Hachem, Moneymaker and Raymer made the final table, one of them couldn't logo up. I'm guessing you'll see 3 Stars, 3 Tilt, 1 Doyle and 2 Euro sites on the players this fall. Without getting into the details (as I don't know a ton), let's just say that if you make the final table with a logo, you're probably freerolling a lot of future main events.
Is losing all that weight and due to the prop bet sapping the mouth of his table strength?
It's a possibility. He continues to say he's tired all the time and with him turning into half-a-Matusow, he might need to figure nutritionally how to battle back.
When registering in person for the ME what is the normal form of payment? Check? Cash? Money Order? Cashier Check? Monopoly Money?
Harrah's loves when you show up with Monopoly Money so please, do that and let me know when you're buying in so that we can get a camera on it. If you're pre-registering, you can either send a check or do a wire, but I think most players that reg in vegas have cash or certified check on them.
Annie Duke would be a better choice than Shannon Elizabeth, due to The Apprentice. A non-poker female at the table with the chip lead would be interesting as well. Leave Jason Alexander out of it tho.
Good point with all her recent Apprentice work, but no, Jason Alexander stays.
Hi Andrew, A few years ago (4 years to be exact) I was having tremendous success on sites such as Empire Poker and Party Poker. My results have seemed to dwindle recently on FTP. How can I get my swagger back? Please advise. Thanks!
Funny enough, I felt the same way when Party Poker changed its SNG structure back then. Just keep grinding until you get back into a groove. Getting frustrated will only cause you to make the small mistakes that lead to major leaks. Take each game one step at a time and try to put the weaker results behind you.
To Wes in North, CA: I usually register with my FTP T$
Why do you think Phil Ivey decides not to try hard some years, and other years to devote himself to bracelet attainment???
Sometimes the motivation is there, other times it isn't. I think that these days he's been swayed by others to think about the history of the game. I think he wants to be the best in the category that matters most -- bracelets. Up until this year, I had never heard him talk about the WSOP in this sense. Maybe someone had a talk with him to get him back on track?
How close am I to my 4 million dollars baby?
Still at 0. Good bet, sir.
Hi Andrew - My name is Matt Radus and I play mostly online but I tried two WSOP tournaments this year without much success. What transitions can I make from my online game to live to enjoy the same success? Thanks!
Sorry to hear the WSOP didn't work out so well this year. The best advice I can give is play more live. Feel as natural on the live felt as you do online. Plus, by playing more, you'll be able to start picking up live tells and getting better reads on players. Online we can only do so much to determine what our opponents have. I'm sure you were giving away some information as well without even realizing it. Best of luck next year...
My Fiancee is thinking about leaving me b/c of my poker addiction? What can I tell her to make her understand?
Really? Get your priorities straight...
Andrew - how do you feel about online training sites such as Cardrunners, Deuces Cracked, etc. Have you ever used any? Can these sites be all that helpful? Thank you for the response.
I think these sites are great and they are the next big step in poker education. It's an evolution that seems natural thanks to the internet and I would recommend that you give them a shot if you'd like to improve your game. I've tested out a couple == pokerXfactor, PokerVT, ProPlayLive and all of them can improve your game. I know people who religiously support CardRunners and pokerpwnage too, so really, pick the pros you think can teach you the best and go from there.
I GOTTA WORK MAN, I MAKE 50K/ YR DOING THIS...IF I WAS GOING TO 'THE OFFICE' NO ONE WOULD SAY ANYTHING..UNREAL You side with her!
I think that if you're going to do it professionally then that's a different subject to speak to her about...If its a habit that has gotten out of control, she might have a point...but if you're winning...buy her something nice ;-)
Andrew - Any advice for me while I play in my first Main Event ever this year? I enjoy tons of success online in cash games and small buy in tournaments but I'm nervous for the Main event. Please help!
Patience. Matusow said it best on the podcast -- wait out the land mines. Don't get involved in big pots early and steer clear of those who you think can put a dent in your stack. Good luck and don't be nervous...it's only poker.
Fill in the rest. The top 5 overall poker players (Live, Online, Tourneys, Cash) are 1. Ivey 2. Antonius 3._____ 4._____ 5._____
Really? Antonius that high for tourneys? Ok, just to complete your five... 3) Doyle 4) Negreanu 5) GreensteinI think those three over their careers have been great all-around players and not just cash or tournament. Chip Reese would've been on this list as well if he were still alive.
Is ESPN going to hold any more tournaments to give away another seat for the ME?
With the promotions coming up, I don't think so. I'd say we'll definitely have one for next year, but these seats are expensive when you don't charge rake!
Richard, as someone who has been through something similar, I recommend being up front and truthful to her. Remind her that poker is not gambling and it is a game of skill. Show her records of your profits (I am assuming you are a winning player or this wouldn't be an argument). Explain to her that you don't HAVE to play, but it is a fun hobby for you, and that you could be going drinking with your buddies instead, but would rather do this. As I said, be honest. However, if you are truly addicted and poker is taking away from the time you spend with her (whether you believe this or not, this is up to her), I would cut back on the amount that you play.
Apparently this has become a group session for Richard.
Do you think flowers are in order or jewelry? I'm allergic to flowers, and her cat as well...I enjoy LOLcats, but not real cats, they make me sneeze.
Richard...jewerly is always a nice way to score brownie points.
Another reason why Poker is better than Golf - NO RAINOUTS!!
Correct. At least there's day baseball today.
Have their ever been players who got bounced out of a sponsorship due to behavior or bad play?
Many. The best example is probably Jonathan Little who was playing at a WPT final table and online at Full Tilt at the same time. Yea, that's not possible and FT removed his sponsorship deal because of it.
When will the WSOP Circuit schedule be released? I want to plan my next trip to San Diego!!
I'd say at the press conference during the WSOP main event. They've been pretty consistent about releasing that schedule around that time the last few years....that's to say that there will be a WSOP circuit in 2009-10.
JP, see Gold, Jaime
Well, the first time. The second time I think he left them.
1. Stop taking comments from Richard and answer the 3-4 I've sent.2. Doyle is overrated. If i was around for 40 years Id prob have 10 bracelets too. 1. Ivey 2. Daniel 3. Cunningham 4. Hellmuth
Cunningham is a good addition, what about Ted Forrest?
Do you think the 3x buy-in stacks have been hurting the tournies. Seems like no tourney can get to the final table when they anticipated? Biggest complaint I've seen has been that the final 18-22 players are having to come back within 6-8 hours of completion of Day 2.Also - what have been the other common complaints this year?
Yes, I do. The three day events aren't getting to the final table after two and I'm sure there will be a change next year to fix that. It might be that the events go four days instead of three or they reduce the chips (or add blind levels). The main event will be very interesting as I'm wondering if play can actually be completed in the allotted time. I'm hoping I don't miss my flight back to Bristol on the 16th.
You still haven't answer my question about my tiger tattoo...
There will most definitely be some sort of blurry image if you somehow make it to the TV table with a problematic tatoo.
What about the ESPN tournaments question? Any more to give away another seat to the ME?
I'm wondering if posts aren't showing today...No, there won't be any more seats on ESPN.com this year, but we are starting another promotion for a trip to Vegas next week.
Ok, I'm outta here. I'll be back tomorrow at 2 p.m., but in the meantime, check out the podcast with Matusow if you want to be entertained. Speak to everyone then.