Hi everyone. Welcome to our first chat of the NFL regular season. We'll be here every Tuesday at 2 p.m. ET to hash out the week that was and the week that will be. All standard rules apply. Ok, let's get to it.
It was blatantly obvious that Chicago's receivers had a lot to do with Cutler's interceptions. How did everyone but Jerry Angelo see this coming? Is there any hope they'll bring in someone else this season?
Really? Maybe Knox didn't do a good job on the last one of staying with the ball. But I'm not sure I'm on board with the others.
I would say Dom Capers defense answered any questions you may have had concerning just how effective the 3-4 will be in the NFC North. Looked extremely aggressive, and Jay Cutler did not have a clue what to do all night. Get used to that, and get ready for B.J. Raji!
I didn't consider it a question of whether it would work in the NFC North. The question was always, to me, if Capers would find a way to make it work with the personnel he inherited. Sunday night, he did.
Even though the Vikes won on Sunday, I was extremely disappointed in the play calling. For a team full of playmakers, their offense was pretty boring for most of the game. With the exception of the Peterson run, the offensive scheme was pretty blah! Hopefully Favre gets in tune with his WR's soon, or else the Vikes will run into some trouble once they start to play some good defensive teams.
Don't disagree, but as I wrote Sunday, that's the offense. It's not going to change too much just because Favre is here. I do have a post that will publish later Tuesday in which I describe one way the offense could expand.
Kevin thanks for the chat, we've heard a lot about Rod Marinelli's impact on the D-line in Chicago which is warranted judging by how poorly the protection was for Rodgers, but what about Mike Trgovac's impact in Green Bay? I thought their D-line was VASTLY improved over a year ago.
Yeah, I still can't get over Jolly's interception. What awareness, along with athletic ability. Jenkins has always seemed a natural for the scheme even if he didn't like it at first.
The last couple of years Urlacher has been as hard to find as the hair on top of Chilli's head. Is this really going to be a big loss for the Bears?
Ouch. It's a big loss in the sense that Urlacher was finally healthy again and seemed to be on track for a bit of a rejuvenating year. I'm not sure how good Hillenmeyer can be over 15 starts, but the Bears are going to find out. I agree with everyone else that it's been several years since Urlacher was the Bears' best linebacker. That title belongs to Lance Briggs and has for some time.
Did Greg Lewis see any action in game 1?
Nope. He was inactive. Shocker.
Kevin, I understand that blitzing Brees was not the answer for the lions in game 1 (could they have done worse)....but will they start blitzing more in game 2 vs Farve (Favre) :)
Sounds like that's going to be Gunther Cunningham's M-O. But they'll have to keep in mind that stopping Peterson, not Favre, is their top priority.
Hey KS missed you the last couple of weeks, good to see you back. What did you think of FILL the LOADholt (SP intended)? I did'nt hear his name called once, which is a good thing for O-lineman right?
Thanks, glad to be back. I didn't watch him every play, but I did see him getting after it in the run-blocking department several times. He's an instant upgrade over Ryan Cook, in my opinion.
With Brian Urlacher's tough reputation it really surprised me that he is done for the year. Its not like he runs on his wrists so I would think in a few weeks he could bandage that up into a club and be on the field. Am I expecting too much or is he actually soft as a down comforter?
Expecting too much. I don't know why there has been such a groundswell of protest to Urlacher being out for the season with this injury. Was it because he stood on the sidelines for the second half with no apparent pain? They had to reconstruct his wrist. You can't have football-caliber contact for a long time when that happens.
How long does GB stick with Barbre at RT? He was terrible. Rodgers could have done some damage on Sunday if he had any time to throw.
Agreed. I think it's fair to give him another game. They held a summer-long competition, awarded the job to Barbre midway through the preseason, and need to find out for sure if he can do the job. The other option is Breno Giacomini, who is an intriguing prospect. But it wouldn't speak to the competitive process much if they benched Barbre after one game.
Who in the division will Detroit match up best against? Nobody wants to lose to the Lions.
Over the past few years, the Vikings have had more close calls with the Lions than anyone else. Just saying.
Even though GB won, didn't you expect much more out of the offense?
I guess that teaches a valuable lesson about how much to garner from the preseason. Rodgers was exceptional with no pressure on him this summer. The Bears came out with some un-scouted looks and disrupted a lot of what the Packers wanted to do.
Hello Seifert! I watched the first half of the Packers and Bears game and I couldn't decide if they were playing well or bad. It was a fun game to watch either way. What did you take from that game? I'm still unsure where my team rivals sit.
Actually, the biggest thing that jumped out to me is that the Bears' defense was more competitive than I thought it would be. I thought this would be a shootout, but the Bears defense really stuck it to the Packers for a long time.
KS: Another sportswriter asserted that Rosenfels could do what Favre is doing for $12M (110yrds, 1TD, 0 Turnovers). 2 things: I don't think defenses would respect Rosenfels they way they respect Favre and I dont think Rosenfels can read Defenses as well as Favre. Thoughts? Also, would you be terribly surprised to see Favre have a monster day vs Detroit? Not because Brees had one, but I think Minnesota will look to ensure future opponents stay honest and not stack the box vs AP.
Good points all around. I think Rosenfels could have beat the Browns with those same numbers. But the Vikings didn't sign Favre to beat the Browns. They signed him to make plays that will help them beat Chicago and Green Bay, and ultimately, a few playoff games. Would Rosenfels do that? Not sure. As for Detroit, I don't see the Vikings stepping too far out of their comfort zone if they don't have to.
Any Reason for the lack of quick slants by the Packers? It would seem that to slow the rush that the slant play, with it's quick release would be perfect, yet it was never called?
Actually, Rodgers said on SportsCenter yesterday that the Bears defense seemed specifically devised to take away their slant passes. Not entirely sure how, but I'm guessing that referred to placement of linebackers and safeties in the intermediate area of the field.
Didn't Devin Hester look like a legit wide receiver against some tough Packer secondary?
He made a nice sideline catch in the first half. His touchdown looked nice, but it helped that Nick Collins was suffering from cramps and couldn't get over there fast enough.
Kevin,who's your order of team finish NOW that youve seen all four teams play
Not changing anything: Minnesota, Green Bay, Chicago, Detroit.
Should Green Bay get John Runyan
Maybe. But I also wonder if they'll give Barbre/Giacomini until midseason and then seek out Mark Tauscher, whose knee should be healed by that point.
Im at almost every chat and never get a question answered PLEASE GIVE ME SOME LOVE.
I was slightly nervous coming off of the Packer's win against the Bears Sunday night. Did anyone else think that Rodgers looked a little hesitant during parts of the game? could it possibly be because of the pass rush he was experiencing? Maybe week 1 jitters? Please tell me if anyone noticed this, or am I worrying for nothing. I love the Packers, and I want them to be great this year. Thanks for the chat Kevin!
That happens with most quarterbacks when they're getting knocked on their keisters after every pass.
Kevin, did we witness one of the all time greatest runs on Sunday in Peterson's 64 yarder?
Definitely up there. To me, the most impressive part was that in twisting away from several tackles, at one point Peterson was almost turned around 180 degrees. He was sort of facing the line of scrimmage, with the goal line to his back. He managed to spin around, accelerate, and still run away from the pack. Amazing.
The Minny players got out of their suspensions due to state court rules. WHat about the Saints players??? It's past 2 pm on the east coast and still no word from the commish?
Not sure how this is going to play out. But there is a line of thought that suggests Goodell won't punish the Saints players because it would be unfair. He would wait to make a ruling until the Williams court case is resolved.
What did you think of the Lions Rookies espically: Delmas and Hill. Delmas was all over the place and putting on Huge hits. Hill should develop into a very good player.
I've been impressed with Delmas for a while and think he is going to be one of the better defenders in this division pretty soon. As for Hill, he's got potential but I don't think anyone thought he would or should be starting at this point.
Hey Kevin, do you think Bernard Berrian should have tried to play this past week?
No harm, no foul. Remember, he basically missed the preseason. So he needs to get into "football shape" and conditioning. If he can achieve in that in a regular season game that the Vikings won, without injuring himself, more power to him.
What do you think of the Packers running scheme? We saw some explosiveness from Ryan Grant that we didn't see last year, however, it didn't seem like they put him in opportunities to succeed.
Wasn't a great game for calling runs because the Bears' pass rush kept putting them in second- and/or third-and-longs.
If Chicago starts 0-3 which they very well could...are they out of it
Yeah, I would have to look up the stat but there are VERY few teams that have overcome 0-3 starts to make the playoffs.
What do you think about TJack saying he doesn't want to be a qb in the wildcat and wanting to play as a WR instead? Its one thing to want to make a difference by getting the ball, but seeing any time at QB has got to help him out in his progression.
Where/when did he say that?
To follow up on the Urlacher comment, if he played with the type of injury he has, he would risk permanent nerve damage to that hand. It's not worth it just for the sake of acting tough.
Consider it followed up.
Kevin, what do we make of J. Jones comments regarding revenue sharing and the Vike's quest for a new stadium?
I thought it was funny, actually, that he got fined for doing an interview with Minnesota media at the request of the Vikings. Looks like Zygi owes JJ a nice dinner. As far as the revenue sharing thing, it's a complicated situation. This is not the big TV revenue sharing check each team gets. It's only supplementary revenue sharing. And it probably should go away. The Vikings should have to operate within their means.
To me, it provides less incentive for localities to build stadiums if the teams from the places that did build them are subsidizing.
I think it was a mistake to start Stafford over Cullpepper, Maybe he is better than him right now, but the franchsie has a 16 now 17 game loosing streak and you throw your franchise QB into what you know is going to be a shootout???? Physically he might be the best for the job right now, but Mentally i don't think it was fair to ask him to do this
Yeah, to me the big thing to watch is how much protection he does or doesn't get. Most people agree that David Carr was permanently affected by the pounding he took as a rookie starter with the Texans. Stafford will learn from interceptions, but he won't learn much if he's running for his life all year.
Do you see Hester being a consistant WR for cutler at any point this season? he showed signs of not being too terrible sunday.
Yeah, but we also saw that the connection between Cutler and Earl Bennett is real.
Yes, in some ways it's an ideal schedule. The Vikings can build and grow more comfortable in the passing game while (hopefully) relying on the running game to beat Cleveland, Detroit and San Francisco. But they'll have to be able to make plays in the air against Green Bay.
will i get more touches this season. or am i looking like an overhyped player that is going to be a backup all year?
If you're overhyped, I'll take my share of the blame. I'll say this: I didn't see Greg Olsen make much impact the other night, either. Two defenses that did a good job on the tight ends. And in the Packers' case, you're probably not throwing Finley's way too much on second-and-long and third-and-long.
Kevin -- Should all of us Bear fans around the country just quit on the hi hopes we had for this season, with Urlacher and others gone. Can you PLEASE give us something to hold onto our optimism with? PLEASE!
In all seriousness, the NFL is a week-to-week league. It only takes one win for people's mindsets to change 180 degrees.
Between a shell-shocked Rookie, a washed up gunslinger known for throwing moonballs, and a new hot-shot who thinks he has the best arm ever won't the NFC north QBs throw more interceptions than any division ever?! Do you believe that any of those 3 won't throw at least 20 picks this year?
I don't think Favre will get enough attempts to throw 20 picks. That's my opinion. Cutler only needs to average 1.067 interceptions per game the rest of the year to hit it. Very possible.
As for Stafford, he threw four in 55 passes in the preseason. Add the three he threw in 37 passes Monday, and that gives you eight in 92 pro passes. In a 500-pass season, that projects to 43.4 interceptions. Just saying.
Is there a possibility of Jon Runyan going to G.B. or just rumor?
Makes sense on paper but we all know Ted Thompson isn't a big believer in veteran free agents.
no one seems to talk much about the vikings defense in the nfc could they fly under the radar and possibly breakout to be the best 'D' in the game?
The only reason they're not being discussed is that they were already on a high level. Chicago and Green Bay had down years and have gone through major changes, at least on the coaching side, to rectify it for this year.
Okay, hypothetically couldn't Goodell make the Williams' suspensions stand up outside of Minnesota since it was a state court's ruling? That would be an interesting setup...the Williams only being able to play at home?
Somebody mentioned that in the comments section of a post. I threw it up on Twitter and got an interesting response: That the NFL would be unlikely to do that because it would sort of be an admission that the rules in Minnesota are different and must be followed. Better to challenge the whole notion of states rights in the first place.
Hey Kevin, it seems like a lot of packer fans are really fired up about their defense. Am I missing something? Didn't they give up over 350 yards to the Bears? You thoughts
Turnovers are key. And they got a bunch of them.
Do you start Raji or keep Jolly who performed well
They'll figure out a way to get Raji on the field once he's healthy, but no, I don't think they're in a rush to replace Jolly.
As a Minn. fan I am used to 8 in the box, but Sunday it appeared that they were selling out on the left side. Almost daring A.D. and Taylor to run right. Your thought?
I didn't notice that, but it would make sense if they did. The Vikings were the most left-handed team in the NFL last season.
I want your thoughts on whether Lovie Smith is going to yell at Cutler until he figures out that Forte is the best offensive player on that team.
Maybe he should tell Ron Turner that.
On the heels of the Urlacher news, which team would be more devastated if their star player got hurt? Rodgers for the Packers or Peterson for the Vikings?
Quarterback is always more important.
Any discussion about the Bears getting a new long snapper?
No. Patrick Mannelly is one of the best. He made a rare mental error.
wouldnt it be prudent of the Vikings to try to trade Chester Taylor while he still has some value?
I don't know. It's one of the great luxuries they have to know how capable Adrian Peterson's backup is. Plus, Taylor is a better third-down back.
Hey kevin i was wondering if i Sidney Rice will ever become a good receiver shouldnt a number 2 be capable of running more routes than fades on the goalline?
Yeah, I guess his speed is a question mark. But he's only running the routes he's been asked to run. I think the Vikings could do a better job diversifying him.
whats up with Brandon Jackson? I din't see him at all in the game on Sunday
He's got an ankle injury and was inactive.
Were the Bears serious about Derrick Brooks or was it a more look and see? Any recent news on that?
I don't think so. Seemed more of a courtesy thing than anything else.
Why can Vikings players use steroids if the rest of the league can't. Seems like complete BS to me.
Because we are an enlightened state here in Minnesota. No, seriously: The challenge is not whether they can use steroids or diuretics. It's about the process by which they were tested.
Any idea why Pettigrew seemed invisible in the Lions passing game?
I'm guessing they were looking downfield most of the game because of the deficit. But Pettigrew isn't necessarily going to be a dynamic receiver. He's a blocker first and foremost.
Bt the end of the season who will be Favres fav. target? It looked to me so far its Rice but I thought it would be Shianco. Berrian or Harvin could happen as well. By the way rumor here in KC is that Bobby Wade will be signed today ot tomarrow.
Seems like he's got something going with Harvin, for sure. Interesting. Oldest and youngest player on the team.
Who would pay for the domes in Green Bay, Chicago and Minnesota's new stadium if they go to an 18 game schedule. It seems unlikly that fans would pay for tickets in 20 to 40 degree below wind chill games that would occur on a regular basis from Dec 26th to Feb28th.
One of many problems with going to an 18-game season. Although how much colder would it be in January than it is in December? Wait, dumb question.
Couldnt tell from the telecast, was olsen doubled a majority of the time?
Good portion, yes.
do you notice Childress's attack of the clevers like I do? Im thinking mainly of him pulling fantastic pass rushers into zone coverage but also plays like that pooch kick for the cleveland opener. for someone so traditional, why use plays like these which never seem to pay off?
I don't like the zone blitz thing either, but that's a tactic of Leslie Frazier more than anyone else. As for the pooch, I think they just wanted to keep it way from Josh Cribbs. And for good reason.
That's a Personal Foul on Tim Chicago. Uninformed asking of a question. 15 yards and repeat second down.
RE: Packer fans question about 18-game season: The two new games would be in August. Weeks 3 and 4 of the preseason would become weeks 1 and 2 of the new regular season.
I could be wrong, but I don't think that's true. My understanding is that the season would still start after Labor Day, pushing the Super Bowl to the President's Day weekend or later.
Who is your rookie of the year pick? Where does Percy Harvin rank?
I picked Knowshon Moreno, my favorite contrarian selection. But Harvin has a real chance.
Brian Urlacher a HOFer?
Interesting question. Maybe we'll make that a Have at it this week.
You think Jay Cutler rebounds and learns from Green bay...or does trend continue and he proves he is not legitimate?
I have to assume he rebounds. He never threw four interceptions in a game in Denver. Chalk it up to debut jitters.
Ok, one or two more here...
Why are the posts and answers being posted out of sync? I thought you guys worked out the bugs...
Sorry about that. Not sure why that's happening.
Thoughts on GB's linebackers? I thought they looked very good on Sunday. They looked more athletic than I expected.
Yes, and they were really rotating those guys well. I saw six linebackers getting legitimate playing time. Nice job by the defensive coaches.
Ok everyone. Thanks so much. Chat with you next week.