Hi everyone... let' take the next hour to break down the NFC North. The draft is a mere 17 days away. And Brett Favre is a grandfather! Let's get to it.
With Hargrove signing his tender, does this mean the Lions will not pursue him in a trade?
I'm guessing that's the case, especially after the gave up the 5th for Rob Sims.
Is Colt McCoy on the Vikings radar at all in the first round? Seems that picking at #30, it will be difficult to find a player that will make an impact in 2010, so why not look for Favre's eventual successor?
Not to be evasive, but I'm addressing this in a longer blog post later today. Basically, it's McCoy or no one there. And I'm not sure they are high enough on McCoy to take him there.
Would you mind starting to talk more about Brett Favre? It's April now and the only fair way for the Vikings fans to get Favre for another year is to deal with an offseason of annoying speculation and distraction. It's the deal with the devil they agreed to. Also, we need another non-sports topic for those of us that refuse to play Lost catch-up.
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Well, that wasn't worth it to me. Not putting spaces between "FAVRE" just messed up my screen. Now I can't see your questions. Ack. Hold please...
Ok, that's better. As for non-sports other than LOST? Is there such a thing?
The Packers still have a number of unsigned restricted free agents. Are those players trying to gauge market interest or hoping to negotiate a long-term deal? Why not sign what for the most part seem like fair market value contracts and participate in the offseason training program?
I'm guessing some players, perhaps Colledge and Spitz among them, were waiting to approach the deadline for RFAs to be extended offer sheets. The very early portion of the offseason program isn't as important as OTAs and mini-camp, anyway.
Are there any new rumblings about the Bears' supposed interest in Flozell Adams? Any chance they'll look into acquiring Ken Hamlin as well?
So Flozell as right tackle? I think the Bears learned their lesson on signing an aging tackle last year. I think Hamlin would be worth a look, on the other hand. But I bet they're waiting to see what shakes loose in the draft. No rush there.
Do the Lions really have a viable option to trade out of the 2nd pick? Or would there be a team in the market to trade up for that pick?
Not anymore, in my opinion. I think the McNabb trade took Washington out of the running to trade up. There might be a team that wants to take Clausen and would move up if necessary, but it might not be necessary now.
If Tebow slips to the late second round, will the Packers or Vikings be inclined to take a shot on him?
I would categorize that as "slips." I guess I would be surprised if anyone takes Tebow in the first round, and frankly the second round is no sure thing, either. I know Mike McCarthy has said he would like to coach him, but that doesn't mean the Packers would draft him before the third or fourth round. The Vikings? perhaps late in the third round.
At this point, does it make more sense for the Packers to trade back or out of the first round? The next tier of left tackles will probably still be available later, as will talent at many other positions of need.
I think that's a pretty good assessment. Of course, there's nothing stopping them from trading UP to get one of the top-tier tackles. That's one position where, like quarterback, you usually need to be in the top 20 of the draft to get a good one.
Left tackle, that is.
Are the bears looking to deal Greg Olsen come draft day, or will they run 2 TE sets with Brandon Manumaleuna?
I guess it's possible. But now it looks like Desmond Clark could be the odd man out. Jeff Dickerson over at ESPN Chicago noted that Clark didn't report for the offseason program Monday.
There's been some talk of the Bears moving up from their 3rd this year...any chance this actually happens and if so would it be for a safety or a guard?
I'm betting if it happens, it will be for a safety. Lovie Smith personally scouted Nate Allen at the South Florida pro day.
What to you think the chances are of the Bears putting up Desmond Clark and the 3rd round pick to try to get a 2nd?
I love Desmond Clark but I'm not sure if, at his age and position, he carries that much trade value.
What do you think Lovie Smith meant when he said "we've got to invest more at the safety position"? Throw a 3rd or 4th round pick at it?
I thought it means they need to make it a higher priority in the draft. Last year they ended up starting a sixth-round pick because the really didn't have anyone else.
Hi Kevin, Love your work on the NFC North. How does the acquisition of G Rob Sims impact Detroits draft board? There has been speculation that Detroit could take Russell Okung and move Jeff Backus to LG.
Thanks. I don't think it impacts the draft too much. I'm guessing Sims will be the left guard, with Backus at left tackle. It's tough to get a read on Martin Mayhew, because he's so tight-lipped, but I don't see him being the type of GM to draft Okung if he thought Suh or McCoy were a better player.
Kevin, enjoy your blog. From what I saw last year, what do you think of MM using Greg Jennings for mostly deep threat and not an all around receiver that he was and will Greg Jennings bounce back from his off year into a top 10 receiver next year?
I'm not sure if it went down exactly that way. What I thought happened is that the offensive line wasn't good enough to protect for as many passes to receivers. That's why they started looking at the tight end, specifically Jermichael Finley, a lot more. If you want Jennings to "rebound" you're going to have to hope the Packers get better protection from their offensive line.
NFC north=most boring division in the NFL?
WHOA WHOA WHOA. Speaking of boring divisions...
Tom Kowalski wrote today that he believes the drafting of Russell Okung is still a possibility for the Lions even though they just traded for Rob Sims. How likely do you think that scenario is? As a proponent of drafting Ndamukong Suh I am terrified by talk like this.
You can't rule it out as a possibility because it's draft time. But I don't think he's saying it's likely. Most everyone agrees that the more likely possibility is Suh.
Will brett turning into a grandfather influence his decision on coming back or not??
I doubt it. Let's just say little Parker Brett isn't calling any shots in his family. Yet.
Kevin has there been any word on if the Bears are gonna bring back Pisa? I think he'd be a better player in that spot than either Roach or Willaims
My guess is they're waiting to see if his knee is healthy. The more competition, the better off the Bears will be.
Kevin, what the harm in the Vikes drafting a Tony Pike in a few weeks. Brett is not the the future of the Vikes for this decade. Their current QBs can stand to pushed by a top flight draftee, right?
No harm. But is Pike really a candidate to be a long-term starter? I don't know about that.
Is there any chance of Albert Haynesworth reuniting with his former defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz in Detroit?
It sounds like the contract makes Haynesworth very difficult to trade.
A lot of Lions fans are demanding a LT at #2 which i totally disagree with because of the Suh Factor. They still regard to backus as sackus which isn't the case to me. What are you thoughts on him? Cherilus, Peterman, Raiola, Sims, Backus. Will this line protect Stafford?
I'm not a huge fan of Backus but I don't see the Lions being eager to replace him. If Okung is an equal-caliber prospect as Suh, then I would go with the left tackle because it's so hard to find people to play that position. But if Suh is a better prospect, I don't skip over him just because he plays defensive tackle.
If Clausen falls, any chance the Vikings try to trade up and get him?
It's an interesting question. He would have to fall out of the top 10 for that to be a possibility.
Is there any way I don't trade out of the 30th spot to get some additional draft choices? With the new draft schedule set up with it spread across 3 days, dont you think teams are going to be extra antsy to get a player they covet Thursday night instead of waiting till Friday night?
I think you've been known to make a trade or two, but I don't think the format will change anything. At least, it shouldn't.
Do you think Brett Favre will play till he is a great grandfather?
No, but he might envision the day where he plays against his grandson.
who would you say had a better offseason so far...bears or lions
The Lions have filled more holes, but they had more holes to fill. I think they're both better, but neither to the point where they can challenge Green Bay/Minnesota. At least not yet.
Do you see the Packers selecting a cornerback or safety at 23 if the top 4 tackles are gone? The Packers always talk about drafting whoever is worth drafting at that spot not drafting for need, if there's a CB or Safety that is valued at 23 will the Packers take them?
Safety would be a luxury there. Cornerback would be great.
Good afternoon Kevin, My question is Daryn Colledge going to wait till the 15 th to sign is tender?
I guess it could happen any time. I'm not too concerned about missed offseason time until you get to OTA time.
Kevin, you keep mentioning that Washington's trade for McNabb pretty much eliminated the possibility that they would switch picks with Detroit in order to draft Clausen, but was that ever even a consideration? The only team that drafted in between them (Tampa Bay) wouldn't want to draft a quarterback in the first round two years in a row.
Well, my point was that any team that really wanted Clausen would have to deal with Detroit. If they waited to make a deal with Tampa Bay, they would risk someone jumping over them. That's where I was coming from. You need the appearance, at least, of multiple teams chasing the same player to create the urgency to trade up.
Do you think the Vikings are seriously considering another D1-AA quarterback (R.J. Archer from William & Mary)? The last time they tried that it did't work out too well (Tarvaris Jackson)...
I wouldn't put a ton of importance in that. Sometimes a team brings in a player for a visit in hopes of getting a jump start on signing them after the draft (because they aren't going to be drafted). Seriously. That could be the case here.
The Favre conspiracy theory has probably gone on long enough. The simplist answer is correct here- the Vikings brass saw what pressure did to Brett, so they lay off. Agree?
I agree they see no reason to press because it won't help. But if the didn't have a decent feeling about it, I would think they would have pursued McNabb.
You've been pretty adamant that the vikings need to come out of this draft with a long-term option at quarterback, and I couldn't agree more. My question is where do you think they will draft him? First round, or late in the draft?
Hey, I was curious as to whether I thought the Packers would have a defense that would actually slow down the elite QBs this year. Its obvious their biggest needs are O line and the ability to slow down the best QBs from torching them.
Gonna address that later today. But to me, it's first round or bust.
Whoops, that was for the previous question.
As for the question from "me," I didn't realize I talk to myself. Anyway, let's see how the Packers do in the draft. A couple of cornerbacks, and perhaps an outside linebacker, could make a big difference.
Are you old enough to be a grandpa? You look about as grey as Favre...
He's only got a few years on me.
What percent of what coaches and team officials say at this time of year is merely draft posturing?
Reports have shown that Mike McCarthy or Ted Thompson have been at Sam Bradford, Colt McCoy, and Tim Tebow's workouts. I understand there is a chance the Packers could draft Tebow, but what is the point of McCarthy attending Bradford and McCoy's workouts? Would they really use their first rounder on a backup QB is they would fall to the 23rd pic for some reason?
Were they at their personal workouts or was it the pro day? There are lots of other players to see at those schools. But that said, there's nothing wrong with having a firm handle on who is available.
For teams that might be interested in Greg Olsen (Bengals), can you rate his blocking ability? (We know he can catch.) What do you think the Bears asking price is if Olsen is on the block? Thanks!
Put it this way: I wouldn't trade for him for his blocking. But a good pass-catching tight end is a lot more valuable than a good blocking tight end. I don't think they should trade him at all. If they do, they should accept nothing less than a high second-round pick.
Excited about the Lions passing game with Megatron and Burleson catching Stafford missiles. How do they stack up in your opinion to rest of the division.
It could potentially be a good combination in a really strong division. That's what is amazing about the NFC North. All of a sudden, you have potentially elite quarterbacks everywhere.
I've never liked desmond, how painful is tonight's episode of lost going to be for me?
Sounds like you're going to have to endure some serious pain.
Hi Kevin, ever, ever been in an empty gymnasium?
I believe your name is spelled "Oveur."
How far would the Vikings slip without Favre this year. ALl things considered, I'm not sure 2010 Vikes would be as good as 2008 Vikes, and I could see the Packers sweeping them and maybe even the Bears overtaking them.
I would probably pick the Packers to win the division if that happened. Not sure on Chicago yet.
Do I need to reference Lost to get a question in? Something about a smoke monster! What is Jermichael Finley's ceiling? I think he is a 10+ TD, 1000 yd receiver as long as Rodgers is pitching it. Could be the most talented play-maker in the North (behind Purple Jesus).
Bingo! I'm not sure I'd go Peterson-Finley 1-2, but I'll say this: If he plays all 16 games the way he did in the second half of the 2009 season, he'll be the NFC North's best tight end.
Do you think ,Cutlers, INT's will go down this year?
They better. I know the Martz scheme's aggressiveness has people worried, but I'm guessing Cutler knows he has to bring down the INTs.
Since we saw McNabb get traded within the division, do you see the Lions trading Ernie Sims to the Bears to reunite him with Rod Marinelli, since he drafted him while with Detroit? it seems Schwartz like larger linebackers and Sims gets run over too much..
Yeah, I'm surprised there hasn't been more talk of moving Sims. Trading him to Chicago? I wouldn't rule it out, but in general fewer teams do that than do what Washington does.
Am I the only one that is just waiting to see the Jets defense match-up on the Packers offense? I wish we had this matchup last year, I think the Packers WR's will beat the Jets CB's!!!
I welcome the opportunity for Rex Ryan to see Charles Woodson actually play in a game.
There's been alot of talk about the Lions trading down if there is someone who really wants Claussen bad enough, which seems unlikely now. Any chance there would be someone wanting to make the same trade with Detroit in an attempt to get Suh or McCoy? would Detroit consider that?
It's a fair question, but even Jim Schwartz said that quarterbacks are usually the only position that motivates someone to trade up into the top 3-5.
Kevin who would you realistically draft to be Favre's replacement?
Don't know if this is the right year for that. But if accuracy is a key indicator of NFL success, both Bradford and McCoy should be really good prospects.
Favre LOST Favre LOST Favre LOST...thought maybe this would be a good way to get a question answered.What have you heard about Rob Sims? Seems like a pretty good deal for a 5th round pick no?
Haha. I think this was a really good move by Detroit. Sims is a starting-caliber player who doesn't fit the Alex Gibbs zone-blocking scheme. So the Seahawks punted a really good player, and the Lions will be the beneficiary. I'd say he is at least as good, if not better, than Stephen Peterman at right guard.
In the age of parody you don't think the Bears can challenge the vikes or the Pack? I disagree because I think Chicago is on a smiliar plane talent wise not unlike the Pakcers of two years ago.
In the age of parody, Weird Al rules.In the age of parity, I think you can never rule out the unexpected. But if you're basing it on a somewhat objective look at the respective rosters, I still put the Vikings (with Favre) and Packers ahead of the Bears.
Any chance someone tries to swing a trade with Detroit in order to jump up and get Suh or McCoy? Oh, and nice beaver!
Doubtful. And say hi to the Queen of England for me.
Any interest in Baltimore LT, Gaither by the Packers?
Yeah, we discussed that in the weekend mailbag. I guess it's possible. If the Packers think Gaither is a 10-year starter at left tackle, he would definitely be worth the No. 23 overall pick. But you have to wonder why he would be made available by the Ravens if that were the case. Left tackles are really hard to find. Even though the Ravens have Michael Oher on their roster, it's pretty unusual for an elite-level tackle to be made available. They know more about him than anyone else. Maybe he's not as good as advertised?
Are Rob Sims and Ernie Sims related?
Don't think so. But I'll check with Phil Simms.
Look at the king of the spelling bee! You go, Kev!!
Of course, I should be the last person to cast stonz.
any chance the vikings would look at me, especially if they don't like anyone in the draft?
Possible, but you're damaged goods, man. The thing you're best at is navigating a scheme change. In all seriousness, I've never seen a young quarterback jacked around as much as Campbell has been. He's had no chance to develop.
FARVE, LOST, KEVIN SEIFERT IS THE BEST NFC NORTH WRITER EVER!!!!! Does this qualify me to get a question answered? What position do you see the lions taking with the 34th pick? Running back, Defensive back, or o-line? Also what are the odds of Follet getting playing time at linebacker?
Ah, there you go. I think the Lions showed last year they'll take any position at any time. But cornerback and running back are two positions that should have multiple talented players available there. If all things are equal, I'd go with cornerback.
If the Bears dont make playoffs next year and Lovie and Jerry are fired. Any ideas on replacements? Cowher, maybe?
Wow. The Bears' official 2011 CoachWatch has begun! I wonder how the potential lockout would impact this decision.
Funny guy. I think Judd is in command of this chat...
He writes all my stuff.
What kind of stats do you expect Rodgers to pull off this year. He started great, and improved a lot last year. If he continues to improve as do the Packers, do you think he should/could be a legitimate MVP contender this year?
Yes, I do. I thought he oustanding last year, especially so when you consider he was a second-year starter. You're looking at a perennial Pro Bowl quarterback, at the very least.
OK, one or two more.
Understanding that the Bears must first upgrade the o-line, do you think Matt Forte will return to the form he displayed his rookie yr, or do you believe the addition of Taylor will keep his raw stats down?
I'm guessing Forte will have fewer carries, more catches and better production, if that combination makes sense.
Well then I am very interested to hear your top play-makers in the division. I was originally thinking non-Qb's, but if we are including them I take Rodgers over Peterson every time.
Right. I'd still take a receiver over a tight end on a playmaker list. So I would take Jennings, Sidney Rice, Calvin Johnson, Percy Harvin and Devin Hester over Finley as that goes.
OK everyone. Thanks so much. Chat with you next week!