Hey everyone! Welcome to the Wednesday WSOP chat. Last night we almost saw Chainsaw take down his first bracelet, but he fell short. A couple final tables are taking place today and on top of all of that, ESPN.com's poker rankings will be up by the end of the day. Send me those questions and let's get started.
(This isn't WSOP, sorry.) It's been a week since UIGEA went into effect. Anything interesting happen so far? Do you think longer-term the competition will be stronger because US casual players won't bother? Or will there just be alternate ways for those players to deposit?
It's ok that it's not a WSOP question. I've been waiting to hear for something significant to come out of the industry since the UIGEA, but really, not much so far. Some people have received notices that they will not be able to fund their accounts using typical methods, but that's about it. In the long run (if this remains the current status of the industry), we're going to see a lot of shark-infested waters since casual players won't want to put their money in. In order to keep the casual fan we're going to need to make depositing as easy as possible. If they're looking to play for $10, they aren't going to truly search out deposit methods.
Do you think Stephen Strasburg could win a bracelet if he tried?
Yeah, seems like he's pretty good at baseball, so why not poker?
Do you prefer "name" pros winning bracelets or amateurs? It would seem that a known player would be better for the poker community but the "anyone can win a tourney" mentality would appeal to the general public, no?
Great point, Mark. On a personal level, name pros is better simply because the stories are easier to write. We have information on the winners, their background, etc. When an amateur wins, we really need to hope there's an interesting story to share. That said, I think having name pros win most of the time is good, but an amateur winning now and then keeps the anyone can win mentality you mentioned.
Andrew - I am going to use your recommendation from last week and go to Rosemary's Restaurant next week! As a seasoned vet, what appetizer and main course do you recommend?? Thanks and keep up the great tweets and updates!
Delicious and I'm jealous. Honestly, they have great specials...everything there is good.
Who do you like in the 2-7 Draw Lowball event? The $10k buy-in makes it extra interesting for fantasy poker purposes.
Billy Baxter is always the lowball champ and if he's available from a fantasy perspective, you've got to grab him.
Just curious-what are your living accommodations for the series? Any thoughts of living in a house with players to get another perspective as to how the series progresses?
I love this idea for a future story. There's actually a blog I've been reading about someone living with players during the WSOP and have found it pretty entertaining. I really think it would be awesome to dedicate a camera to cover it though. Real World: WSOP grinders.
Basebaldy and Shannon Shorr for the Feldman Five. Lock it in.
Hahaha. I really have to make this shirt now, don't I? Baldy is a good addition to the roster for sure. Shannon and I haven't ever spoke besides a couple words here and there...not sure how he'd react.
Has your Poker Edge partner in crime Mr. Phil Gordon made any deep runs in any events yet? Do you know how many events he's played so far?
Phil made a deep run in the $1K over the weekend. It wasn't the result he hoped for, but a cash is a cash. We'll talk about his WSOP so far on the podcast tomorrow.
Were you responsible for tweeting there was "big news" coming at noon yesterday and then announcing the TOC sit and go? If so will you please appologize for inflating my expectations?
Yes, I'm sorry Steve.
How come you never get any shoutouts from Poker Road, Pauly, Chops, Pokerati, etc? Are you not part of the kool kid klique?
Nope. Excluded. Love all their work though, and they know that. I've always said that the poker media really works together and doesn't act as a competition. I hope they take their poker "network" and make all their sites bigger and better.
From what you've seen so far at the WSOP, who would be your leading pick to when Player of the Year?
Hold on while I get the right spelling...
Vladimir Shchemelev. 3 final tables already! And we barely know anything about him.
With Dwan, Eli and Ivey all involved in bracelet bets and playing every event, someone must be cleaning up in the high stakes cash games. Any word so far on who's taking advantage of all the big names absence? Is Patrik in Vegas yet?
I know the cash games have been pretty big with the usual suspects playing. Even if they're involved in the tournaments, they're making time to play cash as well.
Why doesnt the Trump Taj Mahal hold the USPC anymore?
It does, but the event isn't televised.
If you can't pick David Baker and his big chip stack, who do you think will win event 13 today?
Waco will make a great comeback today. Maybe.
Andrew love the chats, and thanks. What can you tell me about Cliff Josephy aka Johnny Bax??? Is he an OK guy, well respected, how is he viewed by the live game players etc.....His website has help me out ten fold.........Thanks and I'll be playing in the WSOP next year for the first time.
Bax (and Sheets) is one of the biggest backers in the game. In terms of his actual poker, nobody doubts his ability live or online. He's got the results in both venues to prove doubters wrong. We've had a few conversations, nice guy. Just don't try and interview him on a few topics.
Random Thought... There have been many team poker events pop up in the last few years at different venues pitting country vs country. I was thinking it would be cool to see a Team poker event pitting the Online Sites against one another, is something like this Viable and do you think something like this would Garner any interest...
I think it would definitely attract interest, but you'd have to get all the sites to sign on and be willing to have their roster play. Who would you have on each five-player team? I'll give you mine...
PS: Negreanu, Greenstein, Rousso, Mercier and Elky.FT: Ivey, Juanda, Dwan, Annette, FergusonUB/AP: Hellmuth, Seif, Duke, Baldwin, BingerVictory: Antonio, Wasicka, Little, Torelli, Markholt
I'm sure with more thought those would change.
There has been a lot of talk about good food on here, just wanted to throw out that Mesa Grill at Caesars, has the best ribeye in the history of the world. It is the one place I have to go everytime I am in Vegas.
Also, the best veal chop too. Definitely pricey, but you're right. Great call.
Expound on Bax interview reluctance.
Certain topics, like backing, horses, percentages, swapping are basically not discussed in interviews.
With the number of bracelets being awarded each year increasing both at the WSOP and WSOPE, do you think we'll get to a point (or maybe we're already there) that we can say some multiple bracelet winners are not truly great players, or does getting the hardware more than once give someone the right to say they're no fluke?
I think that if you win a WSOP event more than once, in these huge fields, you definitely have proven yourself. A person can luckbox their way to a bracelet once, but you have to run amazingly well in life to do it twice. I'm still not taking anything away from single-bracelet winners, but there is no doubt in my mind that if you have two or more, you have the chops.
Any idea on NAPT stops?
Nothing official has been announced, but if you take a look at pokerati's recent reports, don't expect another Nevada NAPT anytime soon.
If Harrah's keeps the WSOP but sells the Rio, do you think they would move it all to Caesars or maybe stretch it across all the Harra's properties on the strip?
I would love nothing more than to see the WSOP at Caesars. There's such a difference in atmosphere between there and the Rio that I think it would be great for the game. Here's a random example of why the strip is a better place. So my brother-in-law's sister and husband were in Vegas last week. they refused to go to the Rio to see the WSOP because "it looked too far away". Put the thing on the strip and you'll get a ton of foot traffic that isn't currently there.
Regarding your second question, it will probably only be at one venue, not multiple ones. Where it ends up probably depends on what property they want to push...which is basically how it ended up at the Rio in the first place.
Ok, so I took a bet at 12.5-1 for 1k that at least 8 bracelet winners this year will be previous bracelet holders...is this as much of a lock as I think it is?
Well, you figure that you'll have maybe 1 or 2 double-bracelet winners in the mix. Then add in the successful players who are playing in all the 10Ks....I figure you're safe with 8, but this probably hasn't been the start you wanted.
What was the reaction like among the pros when Men the Master won his bracelet? Is he still plagued by the various rumors that circulated some years ago?
Story on this next week. He's always going to have to deal with those rumors.
Gun to your head, who do you take in the TOC Sit-n-go?
Mizzi. Not Don Cheadle. Bloch (of course) finishes second.
Who are the best players to follow on twitter?
Negreanu - @realkidpoker, Scotty Nguyen - @sjnguyen, @basebaldy - Eric Baldwin, @JasonMericer, @markseif That should get you going.
Do you find it annoying that players refer to each other by their screenames? No one calls you AJSuited.
Thankfully not. When most of your communication with other players is through screen names, does it really surprise you. The question is if half the players know the real names of any of these guys instead of their online alias.
@Annette_15 (Annette Obrestad), @RasZi (Lex Veldhuis), @joesebok @JonathanLittle are really good tweeters during tourneys.
It's clear that a lot of the recognizable poker names from right after the 2003 boom have "lost a step" compared to the new breed of player - do you think they have come to grips with this, or are most still in denial?
I don't think its necessarily clear that they've lost a step and each of these players will tell you they're staying up with the game. If you take a look you haven't seen that many NEW superstars emerge in the game. The old guard is still the most recognizable and most successful, despite recent struggles.
You missed the best twitter poker player, brokelivingJRB
How could I forget? It hurts to read his tweets sometimes...
To the guy that said Mesa Grill has the best rib-eye. Has he ever eaten one at Cut or Carnevino? Mesa Grill.....really?
I keep hearing about the UB/Absolute having problems... but I don't know what they are. Can you provide any details about it? Yesterday someone asked a question if they should be shut down... I don't know what is going on.
If you have about 3 hrs, google "UB Scandal". Enjoy. Basically, there was a user who could see your hole cards and he made a lot of money ripping off unknowing players.
Clearly the attention of the poker world is focused on Annette, but have any other WSOP rookies made a splash yet?
Carter Phillips is the chip leader with 16 to go in Event 16 tonight...
Can you give a little insight about what happened with Men the Master? I'm avid reader of poker blogs and don't remember anything bad recently
Not really a recent thing, but Men was accused by some players of being passed chips by other players in the tournament during breaks. We'll have a story on these accusations on Monday.
Phil Gordon played in the WSOP 2-7 Lowball. He said he'd never played it before. Same with Annette Obrestad. I guess I didn't realize poker pros don't have experience in all games. Do most of them stick to one or two games? Thanks.
No, but sometimes you really just want to play and you'll play anything that's available to you. In cases like 2-7, they learn the rules and then play...they won't understand the nuances of the game, but they believe they know enough (probably incorrectly) to compete.
How many left in event 13?
9, final table time.
Thanks for all the questions today. Time to work on these rankings and get them up for everyone to see (and probably argue). Speak to everyone tomorrow at 4 p.m. ET.