Have you seen the new stadium and what was it like?
Good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to our post-minicamp Jets chat. We're starting in the Midwest with Jeffrey, who wants to know about the stadium. Yes, I've been there twice, including yesterday for the open practice. It's massive. The upper deck seems to be higher than the upper deck in the old stadium. I was on the field and, yes, the turf is soft. Unlike Domenik Hixon, I didn't blow out an ACL while taking notes. Not much room out of bounds, especially in the corner of the end zone. I think you'll see receivers crashing into the wall. Selfishly, I think the press box is an upgrade of the previous box. It's closer to the field and a lot bigger.
Rich, I think that the reason we did not ask you about Revis last week is that we felt a deal would eventually get done. Do you feel that a deal will not get done? I still feel like a deal will eventually get done, because Revis is probably Rex Ryan's favorite player and he also happens to be the best player on the team. I say pay him. I would not say this about a lot of the Jets players, probably only like 3-4, but I feel like Revis deserves it. It is so rare that the Jets draft a player that is the best at his position in the league and right now they have two in Revis and Mangold.
Walter, you make some very good points. The man deserves a raise, no question. The question is, how much? I can tell you this: There's no way the Jets are going to pay him $16M per year, not with three years left on his contract. And there's no way Revis is going to take $10M or $11M per year, especially with no gtd. money. The two sides have to find a middle ground. Will they? I say yes, because both sides are motivated, but it's going to take a while.
Hey Rich - how has Dwight Lowery looked? I love the Kyle Wilson pick - but I'm not quite sure why he was automatically anointed into the nickle position. Dwight has had a promising, young career.
Hey, Greg. I thought Lowery had an excellent minicamp. In fact, he made an INT on Monday, and that's when everybody noticed that Revis was on the sideline. Some in the organization are high on Lowery, and some think he's just a third or fourth corner. Right now, he's No. 4, but that's pretty good depth. If he were a little bit faster, he'd be an outstanding cover corner, but I think he has many redeeming qualities.
Rich, great work--you're the hardest working beat writer! In light of Hixon's injury, did you notice any problems with the FieldTurf at yesterday's practice?
Thanks, Cranky, I appreciate it. The turf was a hot topic of conversation among players. Bart Scott said the turf is soft, but that it simply needs to be broken in and matted down with use. I noticed some players were slipping. Fortunately for the Jets, there were no injuries. But I don't think you've heard the last of this story.
Hey Rich, I am starting to worry that this whole season is going to blow up in the Jets face. With all the older players brought in and with Jet veterans saying the team isn't loyal to its' players, it is looking like one spark could start a whole fire. I know it's only June but still..Thoughts?
Relax, Matt, there's no need to panic. You answered the question yourself: It's only June. But I guess it's part of a Jets fans' nature to worry.
Rich, OK so spring ball is over and 8/2 satarts the real thing. This has the potential to be the best WR corp the Jets have ever had. Edwards really looks great. I think Clowney can and will nail down that #4 spot. How do you see it?
Ira, you're right, the receiving corps has a chance to be pretty good. But let's not forget the Jets' personality: They're a running team. I don't think they're going to morph into the Greatest Show on (Soft) Turf overnight. The big key is Sanchez. Yeah, the receivers are good, but can he deliver the ball on a consistent basis? Clowney and Brad Smith will be the fourth and fifth receivers, not sure of the order yet.
Hey Rich, what kind of play do you expect out of vernon Gholston this year? It seems to me that we dont have a lot of depth at DE, so he is going to be a 16 game starter correct?
A 16-game starter? Surely, you jest, Jack. No, Vernon will play a reserve role, backing up Shaun Ellis (assuming Ellis still is around). Gholston might get some work in the nickel package, as he did in minicamp, but I don't see him getting more than 15 or 20 snaps per game.
Hey Rich, Wanted to know if Jets are going to add another WR considering Holmes out for first 4 games and Edwards possibly being suspended for game #1? Also are the Jets seriously considering bringing in some DL depth? (i.e. Marques Douglas)
Hey, Ryan. I think you touched on two definite needs, especially the DL. I could definitely see Marques Douglas back in the fold, but Rex Ryan said yesterday that he likes the current roster and doesn't anticipate any additions. That's coach-speak, of course. I think they can get by with the current group of receivers, although the first game would be tough without Holmes and Edwards. Don't forget, Dustin Keller is almost like a receiver. They have toyed with the idea of bringing on Laveranues Coles, but he's limited because he can't play special teams. If they sign Coles before the opener, his contract would be guaranteed. Maybe they suck it up for a week, then sign him after Week 1 to help fill the Holmes void.
Do you see a scenario in which the Jets sign the Core 4, and trade Cotchery and keep Edwards and Holmes?
Ryan, no I don't see that scenario at all. I do think they'll sign the Core 4 over the next 12-15 months. They will not trade Cotchery because he's a good player with a reasonable contract.
Hey Rich, love following your tweets during the mini-camp. Correct me if I'm wrong on my use of common sense. The two biggest issues the Jets are dealing with this off-season is the contract issues with the "core four" and selling the PSL's. As I die hard fan I'd have a hard time putting down the cash to pay for a PSL now when it looks like the nucleus of the team may not be around to have a long run at winning a SB title or hopefully a few SB titles. But if the Jets front office were to sign at least two of the 4, maybe just to some band-aid contracts it would let the fan base know we can count on every effort of the team to do what ever it takes to win, and that would sell the remaining PSL's. When I hear that Mangold's agent and Mike T have not even talked at all it makes the fan base wonder if we will be locking up our best players. I see a possible Pete Kendall times 4 going on.
Westie, thanks for following the tweets. Make sure you check the tweets from training camp in Cortland, too. The problem with a "band-aid" contract is that it takes two to make a deal, and band-aid suggests a team-friendly deal. Why would a player like Mangold and Harris sign a team-friendly deal, leaving potential money on the table? But I can understand your frustration. As I wrote a couple of weeks ago, Woody Johnson wants you -- the fans -- to make long-term commitments by buying expensive PSLs. Why can't he make a long-term commitment by re-signing his best players?
Hey Rich,What are your thoughts on Brodney Pool. Could he potentially be an upgrade over Rhodes? How do you see Rex using the secondary with the new additions of Cromartie, Pool and Wilson?
Justin, I think Pool is going to fit in nicely. I saw him make a few plays on the ball in minicamp, although he did get scorched by Keller on a deep seam. That may not have been entirely his fault, as Ryan suggested later that somebody blew a coverage. The coaches like Pool because ... well, he's not Rhodes. He's willing to learn and put aside his ego for the good of the team, and he's not afraid to hit anybody. The question is, can he stay healthy? His head issues in Cleveland have been well-documented.
Hey Rich,According to rotoworld.com this morning, sources say the Jets are getting ready to add 6 years to Revis' deal, putting his contract up around $100 million and making him the highest paid DB in the league. Now, your the source I care about so tell me, what are you hearing about this? And what are the odds you think Revis accepts?
Bob Glauber of Newsday mentioned those numbers today in his column. At first glance, it sounds like a blockbuster, a bold move by the Jets, but it comes down to guaranteed money. How much of that would be guaranteed? I don't know. The Jets could sign ME for a $100m, but it wouldn't mean anything unless there's a lot guaranteed. Secondly, why would Revis sign his career away for $12m per year? He wouldn't take $12m for 3 or 4 years, let alone a total of 9. Doesn't make sense.
Hey Rich. If forced to give an answer, who do you think will be the Jets kicker vs the Ravens? Thanks- I really enjoy your work.
Doug Brien. Kidding. Honestly, I have no idea. It's Folk's job to lose; all depends how he performs in the pre-season games. If he stinks it up, you could see the Rackers-Brown loser in Houston or Matt Stover. What if the Colts cut Adam Vinatieri? Hmm.
Hey Rich,Great work covering the team. The Revis contract negotiation has me all sorts of upset. How can the Jets offer ZERO guaranteed money and expect good things to come from it? In the Woody era, there is a pattern of cheapness - Pete Kendall, Chris Baker, Leon Washington, Jay Feely, Alan Faneca, need I go on? To anyone with common sense, it seem obvious what Revis' final deal should be - $9-10M per season in guaranteed money with incentives to take him at or near Asomugha territory. Why is this so hard?
If you give Revis $9m to $10m a year in guaranteed money, how many years are we talking? A five-year deal? Then you're talking $45m in guarantees. You have a better chance of seeing Woody Johnson at nose tackle than that kind of deal happening. But I appreciate the effort. I'll send your suggestion along with Mike Tannenbaum and Neil Schwartz.
Jets for a change brought in some decent rookie free agents (non-wrestlers, Australian rugby guys that Mangini fancied) like Kevin Bapsed (real nice story by you), Charlie Tanner (looked good against Oklahoma/McCoy, D. Warren, and Cory Reamer. How do these guys look to you so far? any chance for them?
Hey, Lam. I thought you and Wesley made a great tandem. Anyway ... the guy who has jumped out is TE Jeff Cumberland, a UDFA from Illinois. He definitely passes the look test, and he seems to have decent hands. Of course, there's no hitting, so let's keep it in perspective. But he's got talent. So does Basped, but I can see Basped on the practice squad. He has long-range potential, and he's a great kid, but he's learning a new position (OLB) and it takes time.
I have heard reports that Smith has been throwing a lot out of packages and has been pretty good do you believe he will get some more opportunities to throw the ball this year i think it can really help the option game he runs giving the defense more to think about.
You are correct, sir. Smith received a lot of QB reps in camp. Will he throw the ball? I'll believe it when I see it.
Rich,Who has been handling the DE spot vacated by Marques Douglas in Mini Camp? Are we seeing a consistent starter there?
It depends which front the Jets are in. They're not a true 3-4 defense, so it's hard to say. Essentially, Mike DeVito will replace Douglas, but they sometimes use a DLine that has Ellis, Pouha, Jenkins and OLB Bryan Thomas. They change it up a lot.
Rich, Gerald McCoy was asked in the combine "who the toughest player he faced in college was"? His answer: Charlie Tanner
I didn't know that. That's a nice little piece of info. I do know that Tanner played real well against McCoy. I'll remember that quote for perhaps a rainy-day training camp feature on Tanner.
Hey Rich, with removing locker room leaders such as TJ and Faneca, do u think the jets front office is pushing their luck playing games with Mangold, the guy deserves his cut, hes the anchor and oline leader now
I don't think the front office is playing games with Mangold, but here's something to consider: Everybody around the team realized that Faneca, for all the wonderful accomplishments in his career, was their fifth-best OLM and making the most money ($8m per year). That's not a good bang-for-the-buck ratio and it would've allowed Mangold to demand more than $8m per. I'm not saying I agree with this take on the situation, I'm just saying that's how the organization saw it.
Hey Rich, what are your thoughts on Brad Smith running some more of the wildcat this year? After seeing some success last year, is it possible it become a bigger part of our offense?
Lino, based on what we saw in minicamp, yeah, I think it could be. Then again, they worked on it a lot last year in minicamp, but really didn't unveil it until later in the year. The running game, sans Leon Washington, had become predictable, and they were looking for ways to change it up. That's why you saw a lot of Smith. The Wildcat (or whatever the Jets are calling it these days) will definitely be part of their package.
Rich - I am wondering if you got to observe any special teams over minicamp. Who do you see as being the starting KR and PR? Also, what about punter? This is an area overlooked every year, the Jets NEED to upgrade here.
I think rookie Kyle Wilson looked great fielding punts. I don't think I saw him put a ball on the ground all week. He's very surehanded and decisive. At KR, there are a lot of guys there now -- Brad Smith, David Clowney, rookie Joe McKnight. I'd like to see more of McKnight. His burst in the open field is pretty evident. Unless he has a bad preseason, Weatherford will be the punter.
It's been mentioned in a few of your posts that Sanchez is struggling with his accuracy, but you seem to shrug it off as rust for the most part. This is a QB who threw, and I could be wrong, 50,000 interceptions last year. Shouldn't we be concerned?
The man missed about four months, so cut him some slack. That said, accuracy is an area he must improve. I don't have his stats at my fingertips, but I think he completed only 52% of his passes last season. That is not good for an NFL QB. I was talking to Brian Schottenheimer recently and he mentioned that Sanchez must improve that number. And he suspects he will because they feel he has the skill set to be a highly accurate passer.
Rich so far in your opinion how has the OG competition between Ducasse & Slauson been going
Anthony, they rotated in minicamp. Ducasse received the bulk of the #1 reps in the OTAs, but they wanted to catch him up. The feeling in the locker room is that Ducasse will be the opening-day starter. When you're a No. 2 pick, it's usually your job to lose. He has the physical skills and, from what players tell me, he has the head and the demeanor to survive as a rookie.
With so much young talent on the Jets now don't you think that Revis should stop whining about having to be the highest paid corner back in the league. Shouldn't he grow up and realize that 11 million a year can buy you anything you want and leave 5 million left to keep the core young players including mangold and D'brick happy and on the team for a long time. Shouldn't Rings be more validation to being the best than a GM paying you the most? Also from what you have seen so far with the Jets what do you think the split between Greene and LT will be for carries a game
Zach, you sound like you're channeling some Bill Belichick. Right now, I'd say the split between Greene and Tomlinson is 60-40, respectively.
Rich,NY transplant here in DFW.....I am getting JerryWorld ready for us in February! I am not the most popular guy around the office these days. Talk a bit about Dustin Keller and the role he could play this year? I really thought last year was gonna be a breakout year for him but he only showed flashes. Could he really turn into an upper echelon TE and then what would another contract look like?
Steve, thanks for checking in from Big D. It'll be fascinating to see Keller's role in this offense. I asked him about it a couple of weeks ago, and he wasn't quite sure. The Jets have a lot of mouths to feed, so I don't think any of the receivers/tight ends will have off-the-chart numbers. Keller really developed a rapport with Sanchez toward the end of last season, and you saw the results. In theory, he should draw favorable matchups, with defenses focusing on the Big 3. Keller told me he'll get a chance to line up in different places in the formation, making it harder for defenses to match up. We'll see. Everything always sounds good in June.
Sorry, but I'm going to wrap up now. I think we set a record for most questions. As always, I'll pick out the best remaining questions and answer them on my Jets blog in the next day or two. Thanks again. Have a great day!