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July 22, 12:00 PM ET
Chat with Rich Cimini

Rich Cimini
  (12:03 PM)

Good afternoon, everybody. Thanks for stopping by for my Jets chat. Training camp is around the corner, so there should be plenty of topics to cover. Let's go.

Jon (NYC)

Rich, Assuming the Jets do not sell out the non-premium PSLs (which looks like a good assumption), what are they and the NFL going to do?

Rich Cimini
  (12:04 PM)

Actually, Jon, I think the Jets will sell out. Matt Higgins, their VP of biz, was quoted the other day as saying he's 100% confident they will be sold out by the opener. I believe they have only 2,500 non-premium PSLs unsold. They should be able to get it done.

SprungOnSports (Long Island)

How do you think Brick's long term deal will affect other Jets looking for deals in training camp?

Rich Cimini
  (12:07 PM)

Good question, Sprung. Obviously, you're referring to Revis, Mangold and Harris. I think Brick's deal tells the players the team is willing to do business, but on their terms -- i.e. no big signing bonus and rolling guarantees. Revis isn't going to go for that; he wants a huge deal with more than $30 million in fully guaranteed money.

IRA (Staten Island)

The Ring of Honor should've been done on the nightof the season opener. Why do it when 30% of the fans will be Giants fans and the other 50% are fans who don't even own the seats?

Rich Cimini
  (12:10 PM)

I thought the same thing, Ira, when the ring was announced. It would've been perfect for the Jets-Ravens opener. Do you think this has anything to do with any lingering bad blood toward the Giants, stemming from the battle-for-the-first-game-in-the-new-stadium controversy? Because the pre-season game is technically a Jets home game, maybe the Jets are thinking "in your face" toward the Giants by honoring some of their greats. I don't know, just saying.

Steven (Staten Island)

Any word on exactly who the "women" Kris Jenkins are? I would guess Kerry Rhodes and Lito Sheppard Maybe Strickland? I cant imagine he meant Jones, Faneca or Feely?

Rich Cimini
  (12:12 PM)

I'd be willing to bet my mortgage that Jenkins was referring to Rhodes and Sheppard. I talked to a couple of players (not jenkins) who feel the same way. Kerry wasn't particularly well-liked among teammates; there were no tears when he was traded to Zona.

Sam (Atlanta)

We all know Revic wants to be the highest paid CB in the league and I'm all for it. Is Nnamdi Masoghua's pay that much of an aberation? Who is currently the 2nd highest paid corner and what does he amke this year?

Rich Cimini
  (12:14 PM)

Here you go, Sam. (This is based on average per year)Asomugha, 15.1 mil (signed before he became a FA)Asante Samuel, 9.5 mil (signed as a FA)Dunta Robinson, 9.5 mil (FA)Nate Clements, 9.1 mil (FA)Champ Bailey, 9.0 mil (after a trade)Is Asomugha an aberration? The Jets will say yes. Revis' people will say no.

Steve (Manhattan)

With Cromartie now opposite Revis, will the defense be able to take away their opponents quick passing attacks, allowing Pace and Taylor to wreak havoc in the backfield? How good can this defense really be?

Rich Cimini
  (12:18 PM)

This defense was very good last year and should be very good again. Teams will have to be very creative and smart in how they attack the Jets. You have to figure a lot of throws to the TE, RBs and slot receiver. This should be an interesting test because one of the weaknesses of the D is the lack of top speed among their LBs and front-7 edge people. That could create some problems in coverage. But your overall premise is correct; the pass rush should be better with tighter coverage on the back end.

Tommy (Queens)

Why are the jets so unwilling to end the revis saga with a big signing bonus?

Rich Cimini
  (12:26 PM)

There are a few reasons, Tommy, and none of them are because they think Revis isn't worth it: 1. Owners are afraid of a work stoppage next year. They don't want to give $25 mil on a five-year deal if there's no football for a year. That means they wasted 20% of that bonus. 2. The fear of the unknown. They're not sure how/if a new CBA will treat signing bonuses from an uncapped year. 3. Along those lines, they don't know if there will be a cap in '11. And, if so, how much? 4. He still has three years left on his contract, so they're looking for a team-friendly deal. 5. I do think cash flow is an issue, not only for the Jets, but a lot of teams. There's no doubt that Woody has tightened the purse strings. There are, of course, ways to be creative. They could give Revis a substantial bonus and have payments deferred over the next few years. Revis is a special player, and the only way this deal gets done is if the Jets bend on their current philosophy. Truth be told, both sides have to bend.

Matt (NYC)

How aware do you think the players are about the Reallocation Rule and the 30% Rule. Obviously they must have advisors who notify them about these restrictions/hold ups on their new deals, but do you think that Revis or Mangold are sympathetic to the position that these rules put the Jets in?

Rich Cimini
  (12:29 PM)

Matt, I know that Mangold is very aware of everything involved in a potential contract. He's up on the rules. Revis is a smart cookie, too, but I think he's letting his agents handle that sort of stuff. I don't know how sympathetic they are; they're the best at their respective positions and they want to be paid accordingly. Unfortunately for them, they've been victimized by bad timing.

Brian (NY)

Does Chris Johnson's restructured contract affect Revis at all? Can the Jets do something similar, moving up some of the guaranteed money from the next two years? Would that satisfy him in the short term, while they work on a long term deal?

Rich Cimini
  (12:34 PM)

This is a very good question, Brian, and I'm still trying to dig for an answer. My hunch is that, no, they couldn't pull a Chris Johnson. Here's why: Revis' contract voids after this season. At that time, the Jets will exercise their option to buy back '11 and '12. So, really, it's almost like two different contracts and I think that would prevent them from taking money from '12 and pushing it to '10. If Revis agrees to waive his right to void the deal, then maybe they could do that. That could be a solution, but I'm sure there are small-print rules that could impact that type of move.

Milo (Florida)

So Rich how likely is the Brunell signing? and does this signal the release of Kellen Clemens if it hapens?

Rich Cimini
  (12:35 PM)

Milo, the Brunell signing is going to happen, but I'm hearing it won't happen today -- the first day the "Final Eight" restrictions are lifted. It'll get done at some point. As for Clemens, he's toast.

Rob (NY)

Since you say we can't do the no rolling guarantees and that revis won't go for that, your saying that we might be in trouble in terms of signing revis

Rich Cimini
  (12:37 PM)

Absolutely. I'd say the mood around the negotiating table is one of pessimism.

James (Virginia)

Is there likely to be one WR that will fill the third WR role while Holmes is suspended for the first 4 games, or will it be 2 or 3 guys rotating?

Rich Cimini
  (12:39 PM)

I think you're going to see a rotation, James. Either Brad Smith or David Clowney could be the No. 3, complementing Cotchery and Edwards. I think you're going to see Cotchery in the slot a lot. Don't forget, Dustin Keller can be used as a quasi-wideout, reducing the burden on the receiving corps while Holmes is doing his time.

John (Boston College)

How's the kicking situation coming along? I think they are downplaying it significantly. As we've seen especially in the playoffs (Pitt, Indy) games can swing on a missed/made kick. What's the latest word?

Rich Cimini
  (12:41 PM)

You're right, John, no one is talking about the kicking game. Nick Folk is a major question mark. If he has a shaky preseason, he'll get the boot. I sense that you're having a lot of Doug Brien flashbacks. Stay calm and take deep breaths.

Mike (Keyport)

why wouldnt the jets bring back douglas to play end who do they see stepping up into the starting de position opposite Ellis

Rich Cimini
  (12:45 PM)

I'm a little puzzled by the Douglas situation as well. It has to be money. Douglas would have to make the 855k minimum and I think they'd rather go with a bunch of young guys. In terms of money, Douglas = Ropati Pitoitua + Matt Kroul. Douglas was a productive player and gave a lot of bang for the buck. Good locker-room guy as well.

Dave (CT)

How about an update on Gholston? Does he fit in with this team or should they just cut ties and move on?

Rich Cimini
  (12:48 PM)

Unless he has a breakout year, they will cut ties after the season. They thought about dumping him after last season, but probably didn't want to take the PR hit of unloading such a high pick. In terms of size, he's not a traditional defensive end, but he is very strong and might be able to tie up blockers. Don't expect a lot of pass rush. The question is, will he get his first sack in year 2? Maybe ESPN New should start a "Vernon Watch," similar to the A-Rod 600 chase.

Dan (Rockland NY)

How convinced are you that come August 1st Rex Ryan can filter out most of the contract talks, distractions, and get this team to focus on football and winning in a year where many expect big things from them?

Rich Cimini
  (12:51 PM)

Therein lies the challenge, Dan. Maybe I'm old school, but if I were Rex, I'd tell the team, "You have one day to talk about your contracts and what-not. Get everything off your chest, and that's it, back to football." Obviously, as a reporter, I wouldn't be in favor of that, but I'm trying to think like a coach. (I do coach a youth baseball team, btw). But I don't think Ryan will take that approach. He's a believer in free speech, letting the players police themselves.

Dan (Rockland NY)

is this the most talented jet team you've ever covered?

Rich Cimini
  (12:52 PM)

No. 1998 team was better, way better on offense.

Eric (Brooklyn)

Rich - i truly believe that public enemy number 1 this year is brian schottenheimer. he has had excuses for 3 straight years because of 3 different qbs but with the talent the jets have acquired for him it's time for a more consistent jet offense, especially when the jets defense has to go up against big time offenses like green bay and minnesota this year instead of jacksonville and atlanta last year

Rich Cimini
  (12:55 PM)

You're right, the offense should be better. But in his defense, it's hard when there's so much upheaval at QB. He went from Pennington to Pennington/Clemens to Favre to Sanchez. Last season, Schotty followed his marching orders and the Jets became a dominant running team. That's how they HAD to play, and they did it well. This year, they should have more balance. The passing game, especially play action, needs to improve.

Dan (Congers)

Rich - The Jets played a lot more 4 man defensive fronts last year especially after Jenkins got hurt. do you see them using a lot of 4 man fronts with say ellis, pace, jenkins, and pohua?

Rich Cimini
  (12:57 PM)

Definitely. I've always felt that it's misleading to say they're a 3-4 team. They play multiple fronts, and you will see a lot of four-man lines. Don't forget DeVito; he will have a big role. They can also use Bryan Thomas and Jason Taylor as down linemen in four-man fronts.

Stan (Hofstra)

Rich - in your opinion biggest concern for the jets this year - defense in 4th quarter, more consistency with offense?

Rich Cimini
  (12:59 PM)

Great point on fourth-quarter defense, Stan. It was very shaky last season. (I won't bring back bad memories by listing the collapses.) But to answer your question, I'd say consistency on offense is the bigger concern. Remember, you're still dealing with a young QB. The defense is a veteran group that has a year in the system. Those fourth-quarter hiccups should be cured.

Rob (NY)

rich you are very good and I enjoy your chats but, damn you are a slow typer.. you need to get on practicing your finger skills.

Rich Cimini
  (12:59 PM)

Sorry, I'll keep my answers shorter.

Phil (Cleveland)

If the Jets don't resign Revis, in your opinion, where do you think he would go?

Rich Cimini
  (1:00 PM)

He's not going anywhere. He's basically under contract through 2012. Then, at that point, they would franchise him ($18 million) if he doesn't have a new deal.

Africa (Brooklyn)

Dan, maybe because I'm a Buckeye fan, I just dont understand how a guy that quick and explosive didn't end up in a Merrimen-type role. Everyone under the sun knew he wasn't a linebacker, why did they try to re-invent the wheel?

Rich Cimini
  (1:01 PM)

I assume you're talking about Gholston. Well, you're right, Eric Mangini tried to re-invent the wheel. He ignored his scouts and pushed for Gholston to be drafted. Projection picks are always dicey, especially when you're drafting that high.

Jason (NYC)

Just curious what the early reports on John Conner are and how do you see the Jets using Richardson and John Conner this year? Do you think they'll both be on the field at once in some packages, or is Conner basically red shirting and just special teams?

Rich Cimini
  (1:04 PM)

He'll have a key role on special teams, especially as a blocker on kickoffs. He's a run-and-hit guy, and Mike Westhoff will find jobs for him. I don't expect to see him much, if at all, on offense -- as long as Tony Richardson keeps chugging along.

Ben (LI)

Do you see the Jets cutting any big names in training camp? Maybe Shaun Ellis, or Brian Thomas (We should have never drafted him over Ed Reed)

Rich Cimini
  (1:08 PM)

Because of economics, you don't see too many big names get cut in training camp. A lot of players have received roster bonuses and some have guaranteed salaries, so teams are reluctant to cut bait. I suppose Ellis and Thomas could be in trouble if a couple of young guys (Pitoitua and Jamaal Westerman?) have great camps. Ellis and Thomas have big salaries and the team seems to be on a strict budget.

Rich Cimini
  (1:09 PM)

Well, that's it for me, folks. Thanks for chatting. We'll do it again next week and then ... (drum roll) it'll be on to Cortland. Have a great day!