This chat of snarkness I acknowledge mine.
Your 2010 NL ROY to this point is.................
Was Ned Colletti really missing Juan Pierre so much that he decided to bring in his white clone, Scotty Pods? What a slap in the face of us fans that they used their limited cash to bring in another weak-hitting left-handed outfielder to throw in with Xavier Paul and Garret Anderson.
Oh, come on, it's been so good that the Dodgers' marketing department are going to name their 2010 season DVD "Weekend at Garret's."
Better career? Cahill or Anderson?
If healthy, Anderson.
In light of the Omar Vizquel outrage, I'm curious as to whether you believe in certain statistical benchmarks as automatically qualifying one for the hall of fame. (3000 hits, 300 wins etc.)
No. For one thing, it's lazy. For another, those can easily reward those who played for a long time without ever truly being great (coughVizquelcough).
Klaw,How alarmed should fans be about Derek Norris' severe loss of power? Can we shrug it off as hamate bone surgery side-effect and will it come back after it's fully healed? Or has it been taken from him, like Ed's pea puree, never to return?
Typical recovery time for power after a hamate injury is 12-18 months. I'm not saying Norris' WILL come back, but that we don't know anything about it right now. Same for Alonso. In both cases, I would bet on a full recovery, but we can't look at the stats now and say "oh, he's toast."
Keith, I know you hate the RBI statistic. With that being said, Ryan Howard has 81 RBI with a lineup around him that has been brutal to say the least. Isn't this at least somewhat impressive?
No. It's meaningless.
Klaw, Dan Haren for John Kruk and Chris Singleton...who says no first, Diamondbacks or ESPN?
That depends on how much money ESPN is picking up, doesn't it?
Chances that we see Zach Britton in Baltimore this summer for a few starts? The remaining 37 O's fans need something to look forward to (outside of the 2011 1st pick)
I heard he was coming up this weekend.
Even though Rickie Weeks is finally having the type of season we have all expected, isn't this the best case scenario for him? Or can he continue to be this good if healthy?
If healthy, I think there's even a little more in there.
Going on the 3000 hits thing.. Johnny Damon is close, and I have never thought of him as one of the top 10 players in the league in any one year.
Baines came very close - had he managed to squeak past 3000, he would have been a hell of a test case.
Morrison, long-term, what position. Next year, will he start?
First base. He should, in the sense that I like his future more than Sanchez'.
Rank- Britton, Tillman, Matusz, and Arrieta for long-term value
Matusz Britton Tillman Arrieta.
If that German study on aerobic exercise for men is true, isn't that proof that Tim Tebow is immortal?
And that he's smarter than the rest of us.
Hi Keith, what do you make of Alex Anthopolous asking the Yanks for Chamberlin in exchage for Downs. Is he crazy or is it better to set the bar high and settle for something just below it.
They seem to be targeting out-of-favor players, like Yunel Escobar. It fits, and I don't think it's an outrageous ask.
What kind of name is Law? Is it Apache Indian?
How does it feel to be seen as history's greatest monster by Omar Vizquel fanboys everywhere?
Colby Rasmus is sitting again today. What's been wrong with him?
I'm so intrigued by Mike Trout and the way he has sky rocketed up the prospect rankings! Couple of questions, 1) does he stay in CF or out grow the position and move to a corner spot? 2) Will his approach at the plate be better than other toolsy prospects (J. Upton) and allow him to hit for better avg. and put more balls in play? Love your stuff, Thanks!
1. Yes (CF). 2. Upton's pretty good - I think if Trout turned into Justin Upton as a centerfielder, they'd be pleased.
Do you ever say anything positive?
Isn't the moral of this story that Philly should just have kept Cliff Lee?
Of course it is.
Better longterm, G. Beckham or Ackley?
I like them both, but I'd say Beckham.
Do the Sox get Ranaudo signed? How much do you figure it costs?
I'll say yes, for something in the $3-3.25 million range.
Delmon Young has been pretty solid all year and right now he's on a tear. Has he been esspecially lucky or finally developing into the player he was expected to be??
Can't it be both?
What's your take on Kanley Jensen, the converted pitcher for the Dodgers? Have you seen him pitch or have reports on him?
Saw him in spring training, but he was not good at all. I know the velocity is much better than what I saw that day. Still pretty raw overall as a pitcher, since he doesn't have much experience on the mound.
Are we going to see anyone from this years draft in the majors this year?
Chris Sale could help the White Sox in their pen this year.
Hey Keith - heard your radio hit on the Fan590 in Toronto the other day, where you commented that John Buck should be moved because JP Arencibia could come up and probably do a better job. Just wondering, is that because you think Buck will regress in the second half, or do you think JP Arencibia could already top Buck's .349 wOBA and .819 OPS?
I don't think Toronto should be trying to maximize production in the final two months of the season. I'd rather have (Buck trade return) + Arencibia a little $ savings than any slight additional production from Buck, if any.
Plus the benefit to Arencibia of 150 or so big league at bats this year.
Chipper Jones clearly has had a better career than Derek Jeter. Nobody question's Jeter's HOF candidacy, but people question whether Chipper will get in (or at least whether he'll be voted in on the first ballot). Why is this?
Who's questioning Chipper? I'd vote for him.
K-Law,Wanted to know what you thought about the potential of Jays starter Brad Mills? Does he project at a top of line starter or more of a 4/5 in your opinion.
4/5. Command/feel guy.
I know what your feelings about Tyler Colvin have been. Being a rookie with room to grow and adjust, are you still not convinced he can turn himself into a solid major leaguer? He is sporting a very decent .867 OPS although his OBP is not good at .319.
Fourth outfielder. Between trouble with LHP and his overall problems getting on base, Colvin doesn't look at all to me like an everyday guy. By the way, Colvin showed up this spring with an extra 20 pounds of muscle ... wasn't that supposed to be a bad thing? I can't keep track of the rules of the witch hunt.
For you, does Biggio belong in the HoF? Seems to me he was always good, but never great.
Yes. And he was a top 5 player in the NL for several years in the 1990s, leading the league in WAR once. I wish he'd just hung it up a year or two sooner.
Keith, should Astros fans be happy with a package centered around Happ and Singleton for Oswalt?
I wouldn't be happy to see my GM acquire Happ, since it would be a pretty strong indication that he doesn't understand his ballpark.
Thoughts on Derek Lee not approving a trade to the Angels? He's earned that right, but does it speak poorly of his competitive nature?
Pretty sure this is tied to a family issue. Inappropriate to criticize him over that.
What do you think of the current batch of Pirates? With some more help and just plain maturation can they contend in, say, 2012?
With what pitching?
Can't be here for the chat Keith, but wanted to let you know that we are all waiting for more of your great insight on illegal aliens. This is Daily Kos and not espn, right?
Hah. First time in ... maybe ever that I've been accused of being a hardcore lefty. Epic fail, Robert.
Has Rizzotti's stock gone up considering that he is leading the Eastern League in a lot of categories?
He's 24, not very athletic, limited to 1b/dh. Has some value, but I don't think many teams are going to project him as more than a fringe regular. More value today than he had in April, certainly.
I wish there was half as much outrage over Trammell not being a HOFer as there is for Vizquel.
That would actually make sense.
No doubt about Happ. How many homeruns do you think he'll give up to LF at home? is 40 outside the realm of possibility?
No, that's about right.
Ignore Lee for a second. If I just got Oswalt, had the Astros pay 11 mill of his 23, didn't have to exercise his option, and only gave up Happ, Worley and Gose, thats not bad, right? Does your take on the trade depend on whether or not Singleton is involved?
That's a pretty good deal for the Phils in terms of players sent/received. If they do this without dealing Cosart, Colvin, Singleton, or May, it's outstanding.
You mentioned something on Twitter about a pitcher getting comps to Tom Gordon because he's African American and short; just how racist is baseball sometimes?
More than you know.
What can you tell us about Chris Archer with the Cubs. He's 11-2 with a 2.86 ERA between 2 levels. How is his stuff rated?
Pretty good, actually - 90-95, above average curve, average change, and, most surprisingly, average command. For a guy who walked 80 in 117 innings two years ago, that's incredible.
Lets just say the deal is Oswalt for Gose, Worley and Happ like 1 report says...Should Ed Wade be fired on the spot?
He's not doing this deal, from what I read. Maybe Houston could fire McLane.
Is Brandon Belt's hot streak since his promotion to AA richmond a signal that he's a legitimate prospect now, or are there still questions about him?
He was legitimate before - SF made a major change to his stance (got him far more upright) and his hand speed and strength could finally show up in his performance. He's good enough that if I'm SF I'm hesitant to deal him.
Is Travis Harrison a top 20 pick next year and is he athletic enough to stay at 3B?
Potential first rounder. I haven't seen him enough at 3b to give a strong answer the second part, but if forced to say yes or no I'd guess no.
Is Andres Torres for real? Where did he come from?
It's not going to continue into next year, if that's what you're asking. I'd like to know why he's listed at 5'10", though. I saw him up close when he was in Detroit's system years ago, and I thought he was the shortest pro player I'd ever seen.
O's Just hired Buck as Manager. Good move?
I think so - better fit for a team with talent that isn't performing than a team trying to get over the top. The lack of development of very talented young players in Baltimore is alarming.
Rikkie Weeks has 22 home runs and .276/.376/.492 in 417 abs and Tyler Colvin has 16 home runs .267/.325/.547 in 232 abs but yet you think Tyler Colvin is a bench player but lover Rikkie Weeks? Are you still knocking Colvin from draft day or what?
I like how you show the OBPs but don't seem disturbed by a 51-point difference ... or their positions ... or sample sizes.
Is Vampire Weekend the whitest band imaginable?
That wasn't the -est I had in mind, but sure.
If you had to rank them as of today, how would you rank Sonny Gray, Gerrit Cole, Matt Purke, Taylor Jungmann and Danny Hultzen?
Cole's probably ahead of Gray, but otherwise that's pretty good the way you gave it.
One sec - phone call.
My apologies - had to take that call.
With the Braves up more than 6 in the division and now Oswalt to the Phillies, should the Mets make a trade for another SP or just start thinking about 2011?
I can't see them selling, but they shouldn't be buying given how far back they are.
Keith, any thoughts on Rick Oropesa? I was at Chatham-Brewster on Monday and he looked like a man among boys. Very advanced approach.
I don't like his approach at all - but he has above average raw power and a plus arm. He's a prospect, but not a first rounder with questions on the hit tool.
When I showed my 11 year old your answer that the UVa coaching staff had shut Hultzen down for the summer, his question was if the coaching staff thought he needed to rest, they should have thought of that when they let him throw 130+ pitches against Oklahoma. Never to early get the kids started, huh?
Wow. Sharp kid.
who made the best impression last night at the cape all star game last night?
I will have a column up on that within an hour of the end of the chat.
Is analyzing the makeup of international prospects or potential signees more difficult than for U.S. players?
For me, it's next to impossible. For teams, yes, because they see them less often and don't get as much time to get to know the kids. That's part of Toronto's philosophy in expanding their staff - more scouts means more time with potential draft picks.
What do you make of Dee Gordon's season at AA? Should Dodger fans be happy that he is holding his own despite a two level jump given his "rawness" or should the lack of patience and power be a major red flag?
The two-level jump was too much - I think I wrote that in spring training before it even happened. I like Gordon's ability, but he's still unrefined as a hitter and could have used at least a half-season at high-A for the more gradual increase in the caliber of pitching he's facing.
Are you a complete moron? I just saw your "Best debuts for rookies this year". And somehow you failed to mention Starlin Castro's May 7th debut. Are you ... retarded? He went 2-5 with a HR and a 3B with 6 RBI's. Not to mention that it was the most RBI's in a debut game EVER. But seriously, how do you rate anybody above that?
Well, since that's not my article ... I'm pretty sure I'm not the complete moron here.
Have you seen Pads prospect Edinson Rincon? Any thoughts and can he stay at 3B?
Love the bat. The glove, not so much.
Follow you on twitter and it blows my mind how many people are hammering you on Vizquel. It reminds me of the arguements on Jim Rice and how he was so "Feared" when he played. It's exhusting! As a society have we gotton to the point that if you play you should get in........I mean we do that now with little league. Just because your on the team you get a trophy! I can't take it!
That's pretty much what it is, right? "I loved this guy, so he should get in!" There's no shame in a player being almost good enough for the Hall but just short.
Could Heyward be a everyday CF?
He's filled out enough since high school (where he did play CF) that I'm inclined to say no, but there's a nonzero chance it could work.
7 more shutout innings from RA Dickey today. Do you see him as a fluke, or as a Wakefield-like late bloomer?
Knuckleballers do develop late. They're also next to impossible to scout, so your guess is as good as mine on this one.
Like Phil Rizzuto, right?
I grew up hearing him as an announcer, and he was a favorite of my parents when they were kids ... but I know he doesn't really belong in the Hall on the basis of his playing career. I actually thought he deserved enshrinement as a broadcaster.
Assuming the economy recovers completely in say 10 years, could you see the MLB adding or moving a franchise to the Carolina or Virginia areas? I recently moved from MA to NC and people down here love there baseball but have no hometown team (aside from the Durham Bulls)........... it worked with football and it worked with hockey so it should work for baseball in my opinion
Can't see it - not enough population base.
While I'm not in total disagreement that the Padres can't last in the long run, isn't their plethora of strong bullpen arms a large competitive advantage over the rest of the West?
Someone has to win that division, and they're 10 up on the team I think is (was) the best on paper, Colorado. I'm not going to tell you they're a great team, but the Padres have stayed in first long enough that they have to think like contenders.
What are your thoughts on Brody Colvin? Front of rotation potential?
I'm not quite that high on him yet. Mid-rotation potential, but the standard deviation on a guy that young is pretty high.
Hey KLaw, have you been keeping up with Top Chef: D.C.? If so, is it just me or is this season's cast pretty weak compared to past seasons? It seems like Angelo and Kenny are probably the best chefs, but they are both so arrogant I want to see them both stumble. On top of that, it seems like there are a lot of less than stellar chefs still on the show (Stephen, Amanda, Alex). I find myself rooting for Kevin or Kelly half the time, even though I don't think either one can catch either of the egos. Oh, how I miss last season - that cast had a good mixture of ego and likeable characters without getting annoying.
Kenny's attitude doesn't bother me, because it's not in-your-face as Angelo's is. (And I'm not sure arrogance shows up in their dishes.) I mostly watch for the food anyway, and there's been plenty of entertainment value.
I like what you said about always having something to read, I read that in your chat while standing in line at the post office. Can you give me your projections, both the bat and field for Jedd Gyoroko?
I don't know where he's going to play - left field seems like the safest bet - and it's an unorthodox approach. I like his chance to hit more than his chance to hit for power, but with some control of the strike zone he would still profile as an everyday guy in left or maybe slightly above at third.
jonathan singelton in deal... thoughts?
Makes a big difference if true. Pretty easy, simple swing, but not geared for power right now.
I think a lot of people following the Rangers think that Derrick Holland projects to be better than he might actually be. Can he be a solid #2 guy or is that asking too much?
We need to get a online forum started to get you as a judge on Top Chef. Your negativity would be classic.
I'd be glad to trade some snark for a chance to taste that food. That's not the toughest gig in reality TV, that's for sure.
Worst inductees into the Hall of Fame. Rank em!: Tony Perez, Jim Rice, Andre Dawson.
Rice worst, then Perez, then Dawson.
Las Vegas eating recommendations?
Firefly for dinner (amazing tapas). Breakfast at Bouchon. Lotus of Siam.
Your thoughts on the Kindle....I think I would miss turning pages and assessing progress.
And you wouldn't be able to read during takeoff and landing.
Why does every look at your being realistic as being negative?
Because half these people live in Lake Wobegon and think all their favorite prospects are above average.
Hey Keith,Heard you on the FAN on Tues and I have a question about your remarks re: trades for the Jays. You said they should ship everybody out which makes sense if they're getting remotely decent offers. But why would you just take "the best offer" when you have draft pick compensation attached or another year of control if that offer is subpar?
Those draft picks are not that great a BATNA - they can be lower than you expected (e.g., Toronto getting a third-rounder for Burnett), they don't always sign (Paxton! Eliopoulos!), and they don't even enter your system for 11-13 months after the deadline where you didn't trade the free agent.
Any tips for grilling pork chops?
Brine beforehand so they don't dry out, and don't cook them past medium.
Keith, I'm eagerly awaiting your review of Agricola. I found the instructions kind of difficult to understand (just written unclearly), but now that I know what I'm doing, I quite enjoy it.
I may play it again at game night this weekend so I'm holding off.
Is Rockies' AAA 2B prospect Chris Nelson above average?
I have always liked his swing, but he hasn't stayed healthy over the last three years. I think if he can play 150 games, he'll hit enough to be at least an average everyday 2b in the majors, perhaps more.
If you were drafting today, how would you rank these 4 pitchers based on star potential?Mike Montgomery, Shelby Miller, Randall Delgado, and Jared Cosart.
Well, two are hurt. Miller is my top guy there regardless of health status, but if we're talking asset value at this very moment Delgado would be second.
Callis called Thole a career back-up. What's so bad about developing an average catcher who makes a ton of contact and can draw a walk. He's the polar opposite of Rod Barajas, and that's not a bad thing.
I think he's more than that. The offensive standard at catcher right now is so low that Thole doesn't have to do much to be an everyday guy.
Do I have any chance as a starter remaining or did the Yankee completely kill it?
I think that ship has sailed, unfortunately.
Why do sports journalists get a pass on learning about advancements in their field? Imagine if a NYT business journalist decided to ignore changes in biz caused by the internet?
It was true of GMs for quite some time as well. Don't ask me to explain it.
Keith, in all your time down at the Cape for the Cape League , what restaurants do you find yourself stopping at? Any good off the beaten path recommendations?
El Guapo in Brewster & Kream-n-Kone in Dennisport are probably my favorites now. There's also a Thai place across from Falmouth's park that's solid.
Heard you on espn radio the other night talking about the Royals. I agree they should look to move Soria, would the yankees be willing to part with Montero for him. Should they do the same with Greinke?
I could argue either side on Greinke; I'd probably put his name out there and see if someone wants to blow me out of the water with prospects/zero-to-two guys. Soria I'd trade in a heartbeat just because of the volatility of relievers and the luxury of a closer on a bad team. I doubt the Yanks would trade Montero for him.
Do you see Brennan Boesch as a future all-star or a flash in the pan? Also is Ted Lilly really worth trading good prospects for?
Flash. Yes, especially in the NL. A little concerned about the reduced stuff playing in the AL East.
I've been on a health kick for the last seven months and need to find a new, healthy way to cook chicken or I'm going to kill myself. Got any recommendations?
Yes - eat more fish.
Assuming Singleton is going to Houston, does that make him their #1 prospect? I believe Callis said Lyles would still hold that spot. Agree or disagree?
I'm with Jim. I wouldn't trade Lyles for Singleton right now.
Andrew Brackman: Does his progress this year (holding his own at AA after doing quite well at A ball) put him back on the prospect map? ETA to the bigs?
Yes. I'd take it slow, maybe end of next year.
Will the Pirates be able to sign Taillon, Allie, and Kingham? 3 potential top of the rotation arms you have to admit.
Yes, 50/50, yes. Would be a heck of a draft if they grab all 3.
Which 300 game winners do you feel don't belong in the HOF? Sutton, Niekro?
Sutton might be the worst of the group, but I was never up in arms over his inclusion.
i know you see me... you must just have an opinion
I don't, so I've ignored the question. Sorry.
Was Brett Hunter a waste of overslot money or will he ever develop?
Medicals aside, I didn't like the arm action in the least.
I don't know where people are seeing that Singleton is included in the deal. All indications are that he is not.For as bad as the Lee to Seattle trade was, isn't it true that RAJ did very well for himself in acquiring Lee, Halladay and Oswalt?(i.e. paid very little in two trades and a fair price for Doc).
I figured it wouldn't hurt to answer the questions about him, though. The knock on Amaro here is giving Lee away.
well . . . you don't want to eat too much fish with the whole mercury issues and overfishing problems.
So pick your fish wisely. Mercury's primarily in swordfish, shark, mackerel, and tilefish. Plenty of sustainable options available at the fish counter, like trout, as well as small fish like sardines, brislings, and anchovies. Whole Foods even sells sea bass from a sustainable fishery.
While I agree that Colvin isn't any sort of long term solution, in the world of lowered-expectations that is Cub fandom, it's nice to see a homegrown prospect who isn't god-awful. I'm hearing a lot about decent prospects in the Cubs system (Jackson, Carpenter, Vitters, etc) - is it reasonable to hope that the Cubs could be competitive by 2012?
Colvin's a good bench player, and they should play him more to see if he develops beyond that. Not unreasonable to hope that, but they'd need to add a piece or two from outside the organization, especially since some of these arms are going to end up in the pen.
And what if you hate fish?
How does anyone hate fish? I'd guess that you've probably never had good quality fish.
leave me alone!
Plenty of you in there.
Do you agree with the Nationals' approach wrt Strasburg's soreness? Should they keep the inning restriction where it's at or decrease it?
If he's going to miss two more starts, I'd just shut him down for the year. Don't want to warm him back up just to make four or five starts in a non-contending September.
The Klaw, do scouts look at amateur baseball leagues, like the State of SD has in the summer? We came across a couple of kids that throw mid 90-s and pitch for a D2 school up in the area. Probably not a hot pocket for scouts to go and watch, I suppose?
Forgive my skepticism but "a couple of kids that throw mid-90s" at a D2 school? Got names?
Danny Valencia is obviously playing over his head right now- where do you see him plateauing out at?
Saw him as a below-average regular/bench guy coming into the year.
On twitter, you joked about Strasburg being treated with kid gloves. I may have missed some double-secret snark there, but isn't the alternative Dusty Baker and Mark Prior?
I was only talking about the MRI, not about giving him the night off.
I had a lengthy debate with a friend this am about whether Amaro is a terrible GM; I said he is. My evidence: Ibanez in general; bidding against himself for Howard when there was no need and locking up a bad body 1B for a long time so that he can be immoble at 1B and swing at sliders in the dirt til he is a pensioner; trading Lee for little to no retun because of $; then trading for Oswalt when he will pay him $ next year. He said howard was leaving, had to do it and that Lee couldn't stay. Why? I am not sure. Where are you on this issue?
Howard wasn't leaving any time soon, since he was under contract. Lee certainly could have stayed, and Amaro didn't succeed in his stated goal of using Lee to restock the system.
I find all fish to be extremely salty and too "fishy". Can't even take walleye. So lots of chicken for now.
That's definitely a problem in your fish procurement.
Did you see Dom Brown last night? Any impressions? You the bomb yo!
I was at the Cape Cod League All-Star Game with about 10,500 of my closest friends (including one of you who stopped by - thank you!), so I didn't see Brown's debut. But I was sitting with a Phillies scout who was all smiles.
Every time I see Alex on Top Chef, I want to yell out "one flag... Six Flags!" You know what I mean?
Always been kinda curious (because I'm a fan of yours and for myself), with your education background, how the heck did you end up in baseball?
A series of fortunate events. Seriously, I hated everything I tried before baseball, all the jobs I was supposed to want because of the places I went to school. I was just bored all the time.
"Plenty of you in there." you're smart enough to know that is a silly comment. fisheries are, and have been, in trouble for a long time. fisheries are, however, incredibly resilient... can't recover if we don't give them a chance.
I guess you're not smart enough to catch a joke when it goes by.
Who won the Podsednik trade?
I like Lucas May, actually. Nice pickup for KC for a guy who had no business being on their team on 8/1.
Are the Winter Meetings the best place to start in finding a job in baseball?
No. You'd be hard pressed to get much going there if you haven't already made some contacts and tried to set up a few meetings or conversations ahead of time.
Is Mike Trout being your new #1 the reason for all the fish talk here?
I think the Trout we've seen this year is sustainable.
A guy who threw mid 90's at a D2 school was Sergio Romo at Mesa State. He was scouted very little.
I think that's a double exaggeration - we had him on our board in Toronto, and I don't believe he threw mid-90s.
Thoughts on Twins prospect Alex sWimmers? Sorry, just trying to "yes and" this....fail. Never mind.
Like him, classic Twins college pitcher draft pick. I'm guessing he'll sign a few days before the deadline - heard he just wanted to give his arm a break before jumping back into short-season and then instructs.
why do the orioles suck so bad? 5 words or less.
Bad major league player development.
I think the sWimmers comment was a reference to all the fish talk...
Is Freddie Freeman moving up your list with his recent play? Pretty good production at his age in AAA, no?
Very good. I just don't see a really high ceiling there.
Colby Rasmus or Adam Jones longterm?
Rasmus, no-brainer. Someone else asked about Rasmus vs Carlos Gonzalez ... I actually prefer Rasmus, but if he's not playing every day and CarGo is, that's not going to work out.
OK, I'm wrapping this up. Thanks for all the questions. There will be NO Klawchat next week ... I'll repeat that ... will Mr Nigel Mellish please go straight to the manager's office.