Greetings Fight Freaks, I'll be here when Gamboa-Salido is over. We're in the 10th.
OK, Fight Freaks I'm here and ready for a little RAD on a big day of boxing. Dominant KO win for Wladimir Klitschko over Sam Peter. Easy win for Gamboa over Salido. Nice performance from Brandon Rios over Anthony Peterson and Erik Morales just stopped Willie Limond in the sixth round. We have much to discuss.
And I hope you followed all of my updates all day on Twitter @danrafaelespn.
I can watch Gamboa fight again and again... I think I might have a man crush... Not that there's anything wrong with that
Not as dynamic as he's been and a little sloppy, but when he starts moving those hands he's amazing to watch.
Lookd to me as AP didn't want to b there after Rios brought the fight to him...should AP...wut does it say bout his future...a new Rios fan
Peterson looked awfully uncomfortable after the first round, a credit to Peterson, who was there to throw down. Great win for him. He is now Miguel Acosta's mandatory challenger so a title fight is in his future.
Man Peter has some chin. Haye better not get hit by one of those left hooks or straight lefts.
Klitschko chopped Sam down like a tree. Haye won't stand up to those shots either, but it will be harder for Wlad to land so easily on Haye compared to Peter in my opinion.
hey dan the man, 2 parter, you think Adamek dethrone one of the Klitchkos in a year or so, and how many fights is on the Mosley/Mora PPV.
I give Adamek no shot against Klitschko. Now or in a year. The PPV has four bouts -- Mosley-Mora, Alvarez-Baldomir, Ortiz-Harris and Ponce De Leon-Escalante. It's possible with early KOs we could see another undercard bout on tape from one of the prelims, like Frankie Gomez.
who do you think will win in a yuriorkis gamboa vs. juanma fight..
I love the fight. Lopez has to get past Rafael Marquez first. If he and Gamboa meet, I'm not sure. I have gone back and forth. Based on what I saw tonight, I would give Lopez a better chance than I have previously.
Of course I follow your tweets now I'm a freak what have you done!!
Big credit to Top Rank for streaming the undercards. Doesn't look great blown up on the big screen, but the price is right. And Alex Rivera has some of the worst ink I've seen in a long time.
I agree. I watched the whole undercard.
Hey Dan, have you seen the Ricky Hatton cocaine video? There may still be only one Ricky Hatton, but there was more than one line!
I did see it. Really sad and pathetic.
News from the Bat Phone as we speak.
Talking to Lou DiBella. Even though HBO announced Martinez-Williams 2 on the air tonight, the fight is not signed yet and the site is not done yet, although it likely will be Atlantic City and he believes it will be signed.
Dan, a prediction for Wladimir's next opponent please.
I think it depends if Haye wins against Harrison. If he does, I'm sure Wlad will try to get the Ducker into the ring as his first priority.
What would it cost to get Rios in there with Katsidis....Im chippin in.
Ain't happenin. Katsidis is fighting Marquez on Nov. 27 and is with Golden Boy and Rios is with Top Rank. Great matchup for a brawl, but not realistic at the moment.
Is it just me, or would a Rio-Soto fight be a great phonebooth slugfest?
It would be a really good fight and Brandon called Soto out first after the fight, which I liked.
Was this the "snow" Hatton meant when he sung Walking in a winter wonderland?
It's a Hatton Wonderland!
How about Klitsckho?s ring entance? Europeans often feel that there is bias on these chats but this American says that you guys are the kings of ring entrances!
That was one of the best ring entrances I have ever seen. I hope you saw it on ESPN3.com because I am quite sure it will be mostly cut, if not totally cut, for time constraints on the ESPN replay on Sunday.
so is Martinez-WIlliams official ?
See above what I wrote from DiBella -- not signed, no site, but all parties say it's going to get done and it's on.
Dan. Do you know how good Erik looked?
I have not watched the entirety of the fight yet as I was watching HBO. But I saw the very end and have it on the DVR.
Dan, what's the Rios-Ortiz feud??
It's an Oxnard neighborhood thing. Bad blood there.
based on gamboas performance tonight do u think that he was trying to lure juanma into a potential fight being that he looked descent to lackluster ? Thanks dan
Not at all. I think in the heat of the battle, he tried to do everything he could to look the best he can look.
What did you think of the punch in the back of the head? Good move by the ref not to DQ Gamboa? I have seen boxers DQ'd for less blatant hits.
He should not have hit him while he was down and he was lucky not to be DQ'd. You CAN'T DO THAT!
Did I c an orange gatorade in gamboas corner after rd 7...thought only water was allowed
Water and Gatorade are allowed in Nevada.
In your opinion what is worse for the sport, sanctioning bodies or the fued between GBP and Top Rank?
Organizations, hands down. It's not even close.
Dan, do you really think haye steps into the ring with Wladimir after he saw what he did to Peter? I think Haye will be content to face stiffs for the next year.
He's been running from Wlad for two years.
In honor of Wlad's dominance today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzeCEC7DJFo
I'm rocking out to that video!
Is the Judah fight done yet or jumping the gun from HBO?
That fight is good to go. Main Events announced it today.
If Bernard Hopkins wins against Pascal do you expect him to retire?
If Bernard wins, there's no way he walks away as champion with another big payday out there as champ.
How do you think Tyson Fury would do against a mid-level heavyweight like Tua or Grant?
Get knocked out.
Mr Rafael, your comment on the fight Adamek - Maddalone?
Probably an exciting action fight that will be filled with blood and punches that Adamek will win.
peterson rios was on its way to a potential fight of the year candidacy, but the low blows made it anti-climatic. what couldve been
I think Rios would have stopped him the way it was going.
Andrew Golota thought Peterson?s low blows was excessive.
Goltoa and Peterson were sitting with each other at the BBQ the other day.
I got a concussion watching Peter get hit
Happy to see your support of Wlad. Sometimes it's hard to find in the American media, without a backhanded compliment
I have no idea why he is so dumped on. He has skills, is a great guy and knocks guys out. Is it always action-packed? No. But neither are Mayweather fights or fights of many other top fighters. He's a dominant heavyweight champion.
Do you think HBO made a big mistake not to show fights of Klitschko's anymore ?
I have always felt they should cover his fights. That said, I am happy we have them on ESPN.
What are the options for Rafa Marquez if he loses to Juanma Lopez?
Depends on how he loses I suppose, but I could see retirement in his near future if it's a bad loss.
You seen the video of Hatton doing cocaine? Very sad stuff.
I did. Really sad. Dude needs serious help and fast.
Now that we heard how Max responded to Papa's Sweet Pea comment, I think it's safe to say that Max was the one that got upset with your BBQ Blog.
Not at all. I spoke to Max today and he liked it actually. Was definitely amused.
Dan I think in the words of Manny Steward if Gamboa took a half a step back and thru the jab and the a uppercut he would have gotten the knockout
100 percent right.
Yuriorkis DAN-boa Viva la RAD's Any word on Chavez vs Cotto?
Love it! That fight is still being worked on, although I am still skeptical it actually happens in December. I think we'll see more movement on it next week now that the Pacquiao-Margarito tour is over.
whats the deal with chris john? is he going to fight again? would top rank put gamboa or lopez against him?
Chris has been out with an injury.
dan kind off topic but a fun question who is your favorite fighter of al time?
There are several that I am big fan of. LOVED Gatti both as a fighter and personally, even though he had his demons. He meant a lot to me. Was a huge Sugar Ray Leonard fan as a kid. And, of course, Acelino "Popo" Freitas.
We've been to the moon. hasn't out technology evolved enough to not have slippery advertisements on the boxing mat
Good point. It's really bad sometimes.
Tyson Fury = the American Tye Fields. Classic line, Dan.
Bonus point for following me on Twiter.
Is it just me or does Gamboa seem to go into fights with almost no gameplan? His combos and style are erratic and he just seems to rely on his talent and nothing more. Not a real cerebral fighter IMO.
I'm not sure about that. I think he was just getting bored in there actually.
"Super Duper Super Featherweight Champion"...lol good stuff from Max
U wanna know whats sad...U RAFAEL! Who make fun of Haye an Mayweather 4 ducking fights but u cant answer a quaetions: Why can't u pick a prospect of the year to save ur life?
I see the doffuses are out tonight. And, by the way, Haye and Mayweather do duck fights.
Dan, ever think about keeping an Arturo Gatti memorial All Action fighter list? Not pound-for-pound, but always brings the action. Candidates.......Katsidis, Adamek, Darchinyan, Angulo (probation), Kirkland (pending), etc.
I have actually and those are all good candidates to be on it.
Dan who do you have in Hatton/Calzaghe? First to five lines wins.
Low blow. But this is RAD! Pay the man, Shirley!
Dan,I am finally on twitter and it is all because of you!! I used to struggle finding boxing news but now that is no longer an issue. Thanks for all of your updates, the freaks appreciate it.For anyone who is not on twitter, get on there and find the Lord of the Freaks asap. You will not regret it!
T.J. = Freak butt kisser of the night.
now we know why they call him the HITman
Why doesnt Pacquaio get criticism ducking Marquez. Mayweather and Haye get so much criticism but Pacuqiao gets away with it? He clearly has unfinished business with Marquez.
Maybe because Pacquiao already fought him twice and won their last fight, despite there being some controversy? Please, Pacquiao isn't ducking ANYONE. Dude fought De La Hoya, Hatton, Cotto and Clottey and is now fighting Margarito.
Sad story, but the Peterson Bros are a major turn off. No passion in the ring. At least they are classy post-fight.
Both good young men who have fallen a little short in their career up to this point. They are still only like 24-25, but they've been a little bit of a disappointment.
How do you think JuanMa would've done against Salido?
Same thing, win one-sided in a fight that had moments where it was competitive.
dan do i have this right hbo will have shows november 6-13 and 20 three weeks in row??
More than three in a row. Nov. 6 is Judah-Matthysse, Nov. 13 is the Pacquiao PPV, Nov. 20 is supposed to be Williams-Martinez II, Nov. 27 is JM Marquez-Katsidis, Dec. 4 is the Cotto PPV date, Dec. 11 is Khan.
When are we going to start seeing Roach's prized prospect Benevidez on T.V. or is it to early?
He's 18 and 8-0, a little early. But you could have seen him on Top Rank's web site live. I think we'll start seeing him on the Latin Fury undercards though and Top Rank Live cards.
DTM, I'm looking forward to the Ponce De Leon/Escalante fight and hoping Escalante does well since his home town is just down the road. What are you expecting from that fight come saturday?
Not sure who wins that one, but to me it's the best fight on the card and I look forward to being ringside next week. Headed out to LA on Wednesday.
Holy Crap those "yet another reason WBC is a disgrace Twit's" were hilarious. Couldn't believe some of them.
Thanks. May have to turn them into a blog.
Who is boxing's Wilt Chamberlain...? if you catch my drift...
What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas, if you catch my drift.
I have to read the transcript again and better assess my questions in this chat
LOL! Not the best post-fight interview ever, but I give the guy credit for being a man and agreeing to the interview. That showed class.
To be fair, didn't Floyd beat most of those guys himself?
First off, he never fought Cotto, avoided Margarito and would never have even entertained Clottey (even though he would have won). Second, Manny came up from 135 to fight Oscar. Floyd had been at 147 for several years before he fought those a top welter. And when he fought Hatton, he made Hatton come up to 147. Pacquiao fought him at 140, where he had never lost and was champion.
How is Cotto or Margarito a safer fight that Marquez - are people stupid?
The official RAD theme song:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLYC7ltxOrk
Don't want to celebrate too early, but at least HBO is really making up for an abysmal year in the remaining months.
I'd like to have seen it spread out a little more instead of all jammed into 6 weeks.
Have to love that rant Max went on about the super duper super champion.
Loved it. We spoke about it earlier in the day. The whole thing is just insane.
Dan, did it seem like Manny Steward wanted the KO more than Vlad? It didn't come until Manny demanded it.
He did the same thing with Wlad against Chambers and, of course, who could forget him pleading with Lennox to put away Tyson.
possible banishment for Ronak? Also How's the love child?
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, the Love Child. I hope he's tucked into bed getting a good night of sleep.
Did you see any of the Steve Molitor MD win from the UK? Any thoughts on the "canadian kid"?
Have not seen it yet, will watch it on the net tomorrow.
Dan, what happens to the Super Six if Abraham and Froch fight but Ward-Dirrell never do?
We'll cross that bridge when we come to it.
I think twitter is interesting to find out what boxers think of themselves. Amir Khan and Andre Berto think they're superstars who command more money and respect than may actually be the case.
They're crazy on twitter.
How many current fighters have faster hands than Gamboa? I can't think of too many.
He might have the fastest, including Manny and Mayweather.
I see that Salido does not attend Montell Griffin's School of Acting.
based on what you saw tonight, if this gamboa fought caballero, who do you favor?
That's a bad style match for Gamboa. A really bad style match. I just don't see Top Rank making that fight.
dan is chris arreola ever going to recover from his losses and become champion
I don't see it. Arreola is what he is -- good fighter, entertaining, but a step below the champinship level contenders.
On Shobox they were still listing Ward-Dirrell for 9/25!
Apparently, nobody at Showtime got the freakin memo that the fight IS NOT HAPPENING ON SEPTEMBER 25. I thought that was bordering on fraud to still advertise the fight on that date. Really big miss by Showtime. Shame on them.
The Espn Deportes replay went from national anthem to commercial, to round 2! What's up with that!!?
I saw that. Terrible job.
Could you see the WBA setting up another interim title fight involving Caballero? Normally I'd puke my guts out but in his case I could just go on medication and endure it.
At this point I have no idea. I think the crooked WBA might have 4-5 titles per division before too long. What a joke they are.
I'm asking all sorts of HW questions, sorry I just needed a fix and got it today so all's good. Is Peter done as a top HW? He looked fit but really lacked skills and is looking mentally weak to me.
Peter is finished as a top heavyweight. 0-3 against Family Klitschko means it's not going to happen because there won't be a fourth chance.
How far away do you think Mikey Garcia is from a big fight at 126?
He is now a mandatory for Gamboa but Top Rank won't rush him. He's probably at least two more fights from something major.
Dan---I've never seen anything like this WKlit run in HW history. 4+ years of defenses against all top 10 opposition without (arguably) losing a single round.
It is impressive. He won't get his due until he's gone, like Lennox, who was hated on brutally, at least by American fans and most media (not me) for years.
No wonder Rios' screams sounded so girly after he won ... he got his testicles crushed during the fight !
Pay the man, Shirley. I am so cracking up right now from that one.
Dan, I know it's still a month away, but will the Bute/Brinkley coverage on ESPN3 include the undercard bouts as well?
Not sure, but I doubt it.
David Haye: "I want to retire these Klitschkos, but the WBA is making me fight Chagaev." You can hear it coming.
Of course. He's always finding excuses.
Is Vinny Maddalone just another stay-busy fight for Adamek? Because even if he is, there are better quality guys out there. Even Kirk Johnson would be a better fight.
First off Kirk Johnson is not a better fight. Adamek against Maddalone will at least be exciting and will draw a big crowd and BOTH guys will bring fans. That's why it will probably be in Boardwalk Hall. Adamek is staying busy and I love it. He's not sitting around to fight twice a year and hope for an HBO date or a title fight.
To be fair isn't the "top 10 opposition" Wlad has faced kind of a joke?
Why is that his fault? He has faced everyone of his era other than his brother. Larry Holmes competition stunk also but he put together like 20 title defense and most consider him an all-time great. Wlad can't fight Ali or Tyson or Frazier. He can only fight who is in his division now and he has done that and done by kicking butt.
follow up on our response to John D. Wlad might run this division for 3-6 more years
It's possible. He's 34 and has barely lost more than a few rounds in the past 5 years.
Do you think the klits are going to need haye to get another fight on HBO??
No, because Adamek is out there.
dan, do you like the guerrero-escobedo fight on the undercard of the judah fight??
Not bad. Not my first choice, but it's OK. Nothing great. Makes no sense in New Jersey.
With Roman Gonzalez moving up to 108, do you think there is a chance of him fighting Segura sometime in the future?
I guess it's possible. That would be one helluva a fun fight.
Just read your BBQ blog for the 1st time. really funny. Is Max Kellerman really that big of a "Sweat pea" Whitaker fan?
I think Max likes Pea more than his mom.
Why should anyone care about the 126 division? The "real" champ (Chris John) doesn't have anything scheduled. JMM nor Gamboa will fight Cellestino, so he is effectively frozen out...and JMM and Gamboa won't fight each other w/o Top Rank getting an 8 figure payday. So why should me as a boxing fan CARE about the self destruction going on?
What are you talking about? John is not the "real" champ although he has a great record and has held a title for a long time. I assume by JMM you mean JML (as in Lopez). Gamboa tried to unify with Rojas, who got injured, so he did it with Salido, a legit top 10 guy. Lopez is fighting Marquez in what should be a good fight. Caballero will be on HBO in November. It's a good division with good fights being made and, I hope, eventually we'll see Gamboa-Lopez. But while it is not happening, at least we're getting some attractive matches along the way.
I agree, Wlad has done anything he has been asked! if im HBO im still only putting on a heavyweight fight if it involves 2 of the following: Wlad, Vitali, Haye, Povetkin, Adamek
Did you just compare that stiff Wlad to Larry Holmes ... Been hanging with Hatton?
No, I'm keeping it real. Holmes era of competition was viewed as very weak. He gained acclaim by taking them all on and racking up win after win.
Dan, Teddy Atlas' schedule for Povetkin reminds me of the old Larry Merchant line: "He wants to fight bums and his promoters don't want him to fight anyone that good."
Actually, his promoter, Sauerland Event, wants him to fight better guys, which is why they wanted him to take the title fight.
Dan did Noel from Glasgow ever submit to you his P4P top ten list with all the people you "supposedly" keep omitting?
No, because he's a coward.
Calderon is HOF bound correct?
On my ballot he is.
Is Berto going to fight on the JMM card?
Probably against Aydin.
After seeing those low blows it became apparent that Brandon Rios graduated from the Mickey Ward school of Manliness.
Better division 126 0r 154??
126 right now. 154 not the most interesting at the moment.
Will Top Rank be looking now to make the Gamboa/Elio Rojas fight for sometime early next year, or do you think they'll try for Chris John?
I think they could revisit Rojas, but Rojas is going to be out for awhile with the shoulder injury. John is tough because of the whole Golden Boy thing, but if HBO wants it, it's possible.
To be fair if you put Vlad or Vitali in any era they would be a problem for any HW.... Remember Joe Louis was only 6'2" and barely 200lbs....
You're right. Either Klitschko would destroy somebody like Marciano, for example, because of the massive size difference.
Will there be anyway to re-watch that Wlad/Ali intro video he had going today? That was majestic.
I think the whole ESPN3.com broadcast can be watched via a replay on ESPN3.com and ESPN's boxing page.
Although you give Povetkin crap for not taking the fight, I give him credit for listening to his trainer. He will lose right now against either of the Klits. Maybe a little more time with Teddy would be beneficial
Honestly, I don't see him ever being able to actually win the fight with Klitschko.
Is it too soon to include Gamboa in my top 15 p4p?
I think so.
dan i was so impressed with rios tonigt that im watching the hbo replay right now
Have at it Freak.
Have you settled your beef with James Toney? You had some nice things to say about him recently.
I've never had a beef with James.
The Klitscho's are way too big for they guys they are fighting. There should be some type of limit in the heavyweight division. Look at the golden age of the division and see how heavy they were coming in as
What are you talking about? For 150 years the heavyweight division has been unlimited. And they have fought big guys in the mid-240s plenty of times.
Was that Margarito on Rios' corner entourage before the fight? If it was, kind of interesting he got ignored by HBO since he has a PPV event in a month. And they did mention Vargas.
Yes it was. They are both trained by Rober Garcia.
Dan, this might not be your department, but could you suggest putting records of fighters on the schedule tab for ESPN? Maybe not all of em, but at least most the significant fighters. And what about a way to get a link for fighters to see their fight history?
Go to my rankings. All the ranked guys have their records listed.
Damn Yankees. Rivera just blew the lead in the bottom of the ninth and it's tied 6-6.
I agree with Gil. As an example, Roy Jones was hardly challenged for a good portion of his career. Although it wasn't his fault, it's hard to put him above somebody like Pacquiao who is absolutely dominating elite competition.
The thing with Roy, as great as he was for a long stretch, didn't fight Dariusz (even though I think Roy would have won easily), never fought some of other top guys either like Benn, McClellan, Julian Jackson, Steve Collins, etc.. They might not have been great, but they were better than some of the guys he did fight.
DAN!!!!!!!! Is Brandon Rios now the mandatory for Acosta or winner of Marquez-Katsidis?
Dan please call in sick for next week's debacle and spend a nice weekend at home
Why would I do that?
Why Klitschkos are to big for everybody ? lennox Lewis was the same size and nobody complain
What a disgusting loss for the Yanks. 7-6 on a walk-off hit by pitch from Rivera. Brutal.
Dan...how much of a riot will it be if Audley KOs Haye?
It's probably his only chance -- land a big left hand.
Would you ever be interested in raising the Cruiserweight limit, so that it may include some of the smaller heavyweights?
No, they already raised it from 190 to 200. Historically, heavyweight has always been that size.
Dan first off big props to Espn for broadcasting the Heavyweight fight..However do you think ESPN should have considered using someone else besides Atlas on commentary? I really thought it was a conflict of interest and his comments took away from the action..(as they often do)
Teddy is the analyst and they didn't hide the fact that he trains Povetkin, so I was fine with that.
I know you're not too overly excited to cover next week's fight. What fight that you covered that you were least enthused about?
There have been a few over the years. I was not all that pumped to cover Hopkins-Wright, off the top of my head. I certainly was not looking forward to Holyfield-Ruiz II and III, both of which I covered. But even the worst card to cover, I always remember one thing -- I still getting paid to cover boxing and that beats just about anything.
We already have like 75 divisions to many and ALEX is trying to add more?? Seriously Alex (if thats your real name or should we call you jose sulaiman!!)
If anything, we need to eliminate some divisions.
Expectations and predictions for Judah/Matthysse?
Guess we'll see how good Judah really is back at 140 and we'll see if Matthysse is a real guy or just a guy with a built up record. Could be a fun fight.
Any chance we'll ever see Fernando Vargas fighting again?
Given his financial situation, I wouldn't be surprised, but I sure hope not.
I see Guillermo Rigondeaux is fighting for an interim 122 belt. Doesn't he normally fight 126? I'd like to see him vs. Gamboa down the road.
No, he's a 122.
I'm a Red Sox fan and i don't appreciate you complaining about blowing a lead when your team is easily playoff bound ... Typical Yankee fan
I enjoy the Red Sox losing almost as much as the Yankees winning.
Hey, at least your not a Pirates fan!!
Dan, just my opinion but I have the highest regards for Teddy Atlas (minus some problems with the Pacquiao drug testing email and his assertion that you could argue the Mayweather fight was the only one we knew Mosley wasn't on HGH), but his comment when BK said that he Klitschko had 40,000 people in the stadium and he responded that the stadium held 50,000 was beneath him. Not taking the Klitschko fight better work out or he cost Povetkin a lot of money (even though I know he is losing some himself).
I did think the comment about the attendance was a bit ridiculous. He drew like 40,000 for a fight that he was expected to win. Remember, he already beat the guy once and the last time the Germans saw Sam Peter he was taken to the woodshed by Vitali. And he STILL drew 40,000. That's SICK.
A little recap: Vlad owned Peter. Rios did major work. Gamboa, although relatively sloppy, showed insane hand speed. Your twitter is the best thing to ever happen to The Freaks. Night, Robinson Dano.
Will Mosley/Mora be a full out HBO PPV broadcast or will it be a Golden BOY PPV?
HBO PPV -- Lampley and Merchant and the whole nine yards.
Hey Dan, Do you ever read the comments underneath the chat?? You're treated almost as bad as you talk about Floyd..
Once in awhile. They can say what they want. I don't really care.
I don't care if it was on the moon...it's pretty damn cool to see 40,000 fans at a boxing match. Dying sport my arse.
Seeing 50,000-plus for Pacquiao-Clottey was impressive and there will be more for Pacquiao-Margarito.
Just finished watching the Erik Morales fight. He needs to go back into retirement. He is going to get hurt.
I have it on the DVR and will watch it in the morning.
DAN!!!!!!!!! Was Peterson's low blow intentional because he didnt want to get KO'd?
I think when you are a professional with 30 fights and you've been warned and have lost points and you go low again -- and WAY low -- it's not an accident. You're looking for a way out, at least subconsciously.
Hey D$$$ I saw your tweet about the 30/30 special about tupac and mike tyson, you said you were disappointed.... what about didn't you like?
Poorly done overall IMO. Took to guys with massive charisma and made it boring. The weird spoken word stuff was horrific. Just was very disappointed, especially considering how much I was looking forward to it.
Dan, how close is Showtime to announcing what it will do about the Super 6?
I ask every day. Every day I get no return call or answer.
What was Gamboa thinking when he hit Salido when the dude was down? I was afraid Cortez was gonna DQ him if Salido didn't get up, he's done it before..
Stupid, unprofessional move and he is lucky he was not DQ'd.
When was the last time Baldomir fought?
Not that long ago in Argentina. I have the DVD. Look it up yourself lazy.
Time for quick snack before Gamboa - Salido rebroadcast...Taco Bell or Burger King?
Taco Bell, if Mayweather Sr. is going with you.
Do you expect a deal to be reached between Maidana and Khan
The 30 for 30 was HORRIBLE. The kids in the boxing ring screaming poetry or whatever that was SUCKED. So did the whole comic book theme, it didn't reveal anything about Tyson we didn't know and nothing about 2Pac you couldn't get from Resurrection.
Tell me how you really feel.
Why didn't your peers vote Prince Naseem into the HOF?
Whats Plan B for Cotto if Chavez doesnt work out? And will it still be PPV?
Not really sure but I would hope if they dont make the Chavez fight they'll look to try to make Angulo. I want that fight.
Dan, I was in PR last week, and saw Trinidad. I think he was drunk when he told everyone at a club that he wants to fight one more fight. He wants Oscar at 165 or 170 your thoughts
Most important part of that comment: I think he was drunk.
How are JuanMa-Marquez ticket sales going without the help of Mexican Independence weekend
Call Top Rank or Ticketmaster or the MGM.
Hey Dan which fight that is currently scheduled through the end of 2010 are you looking forward to the most?
I would say probably Martinez-Williams 2 or Marquez-Katsidis. Also looking forward to Abraham-Froch. That will be a good fight.
After Pac Floyd is there any other fight that can be made that would do over 400,000 buys on PPV?
Floyd or Manny against anyone would do that.
I thought I was drunk 4 hours ago. Now I'm sure of it. Take that to the bank.
Pretty good job of typing.
If Maidana does get Khan, he should play Captain Kirk's "Khaaannnnn!!!!!!!" over the loudspeaker on his ring walk.
That would be pretty freakin funny.
how come csac isn't getting heat for signing off on Margarito's hand wraps?
I have given them heat since it happened.
How does Arum think that a Gamboa vs JuanMa is marinating when he couldn't even fill the small Pearl at the Palm? Some rising star we have there.
Yeah, not a good crowd tonight there and the ones who did buy tickets were there for Mike Lee and Diego Magadelano on the undercard.
After seeing the Hatton video I feel betrayed.
I was trying to figure out who took offense to your funny BBQ article, and I have narrowed it down to a few people. Kermit Cintron or the WBC devil. If I am on the right track, please acknowledge it. TY Sir.
You are wrong on both, although I did not hear from either of those you mentioned, one way or the other.
Can't a chat without it I guess. But where is Marquez's pee and the Shower Door?
Isn't it funny how all of the Klitschko opponents are called jokes. Must be cause of one common thing THEY ALL GET THEIR ARSE'S KICKED BY THE KLITSCHKO'S. Of course they will look bad when they lose. But before that they were undefeated or one lose guys.
I'll take Wlad's competition -- Chagaev, Peter, Byrd against Larry Holmes' -- Tubbs, Page, Tex Cobb - anyday.
Dan, I don't care if Erik Morales is old. I wanna see him fight Juan Manual Marquez still. He always puts up a damn good fight and won't stink the joint out.
I tend to agree. Erik is going to fight anyway so might as well complete the round robin of Morales, Barrera, Pacquiao and Marquez. The fight of those possible among those four that hasn't happened is Marquez-Morales.
Bob Papa is a trooper .. Isn't he doing the Giants on radio in a few hours?
Yes, he's on red eye as we speak.
My poetry better than that 30 for 30 garbage
Loved, Loved the twitter rant the other day about the filthy WBC/WBA! Nice job dude
Clifton Park in the house!! My hometown!!
I just dont understand how Pacquiao will get credit for being an 8 weight world champion when A. the fight is not at 154 and B. Margarito is not a 154 pound champion???
Really? Are we really going to go through this again. Really?
Dan are you a Tupac fan? (that rhymed)
Not hardcore, but yeah, like some of his stuff.
Dan...when was the last time you pulled out KISS 'THE ELDER"...be honest.
Probably not in 15 years other than to watch the live performance of some of those songs that are on one of the KISSOLOGY DVDs once.
Which do you rate higher: Wlad's demolition of Peter this evening, or Vitali's?
I think it's a tie. Both totally dominant. Vitali got rid of him quicker but Wladimir got a real knockout.
sweet celabratory scream by rios
Actually it was annoying and sounded like a wounded animal.
It seems Wade Barrett has exact same tone, accent and deliverary as Carl Froch.
Will Marroquin be fighting in Arlington again on the Pac undercard?
Yes, he is scheduled to be on that undercard.
I know they're smart guys, but are the Klitschkos as pleasant as the seem?I mean,OUT of the ring, of course.
Yes. Very good guys outside the ring.
Antonio Tarver has no shot in the heavyweight division. Sure he'll make a few bigger paydays, but he will get knocked out by the Klitscko brothers.
He's starting off a little bit less than that. If he fought a Klitschko, he'll get murdered, but he's not going for that right off the bat.
Anyone seen an iPhone in here?
Dan, where were you when you called in during the KO/Peter fight?
Sitting at the desk in my office, where I am sitting right now.
LOL Wade Barrett reference!!!
Any reason for Sam Peter to continue his career anymore?
Whats your prediction for the 118lb tourney winner ?
Haven't really thought about it but I think all four guys have a shot.
We have made a decision that Ricky Hatton will be come the new WBA coke snorting champion. Joe Calzaghe will be moved up to Super Champion.
Morales was slow. But he knocked the guy out in a very impressive fashion and it appears that his power has travelled with the weight. Marquez will stand right in front of him. Curious to hear your thoughts after seeing it.
Ask me in the chat next Friday and I will try to answer if I see it.
Yes that is my real name...and Dan, who should Klitschko fight next (if it ain't Haye)?
I have no idea, I just wanted all the Freaks to see that freakin' name.
Dan who is your front runner for fighter of the so far? Maybe wladmir
He has scored two impressive knockouts against top 10 guys, but the year is not over yet. I would say he's on the list in what has been a weak year for candidates.
Dan, can you settle something for me and my friend. My friend Eric is trying to tell me that Gatti was a much bigger win for Floyd in comparision to Carlos Baldimir. My argument is neither win is impressive, but their equal in terms of Gatti being the more popular fighter and Baldmir actually had the lineal title at the time. Both wins have been featured on Floyds greatest hits on HBO, but I don't think either are wins to brag about. We're about to put the gloves on if you don't settle this immediately!
The Gatti win was a breakthrough for Mayweather in terms of headlining on PPV and people buying him. But the win meant nothing. He picked up a paper title against a guy nobody gave a prayer of winning. I'm the biggest Gatti fan ever and I thought he'd get destroyed. I literally gave him almost not chance to actually win. Baldomir I didn't give a real chance to either, but at least that win was meaningful because it made Mayweather THE welterweight champ, a title he didn't yield until he retired.
So is the WBA to blame for Golden Crisp becoming Super Golden Crisp? I've always wondered about that.
Pay the man, Shirley.
Who was Lewis preparing to fight before Vitali came in as replacement a southpaw right?
Lennox was supposed to fight Kirk Johnson and Klitschko was supposed to be on the undercard.
Dan...any word on when Eddie Chambers getting back in the ring?
Haven't heard a thing.
I told Rios to scream like a maniac after the fight to keep the inspectors away
Dan, how bad does the loss hurt Peterson? Is Rios someone he should have handled?
It hurts pretty badly. I thought Peterson was the more talented guy, but I thought Rios was the better puncher and scrappier fighter.
I think Rick has a point regarding Gamboa. He is a Roy Jones type and uses his athleticism and natural talent to win as opposed to boxing skill. His boxing technique is horrible.
Is the WBA also responsible for the Super Soaker?
DAN RAFAEL IS MY HERO AND AS LONG AS I LIVE I WILL REFER TO HIM AS THE NICHE OF BOXING WRITERS!!!
What do you fell is the time table for Wladimirs nest fight? early next year or maybe just maybe Dec.
No, he won't fight again this year. I would say probably in the March timeframe.
Morales drew 55,000. Looked like an amazing scene. Dan I believe Meldrick Taylor's gold medal should put him in the HOF. People forget that he was top 5 pound for pound for 4 years. Where do you stand with him.
The crowd did seem pretty impressive for Morales, even in the rain. Not sure Meldrick rises to that level. He was a dymanic fighter but not sure he was at the top long enough. But he was a sensational fighter at his best. I have a lot of his old tapes and he was crazy fast and liked to mix it up.
Dan if we can guess the person who hated on your BBQ blog, will you tell us?
Just popped on this video, love it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m9iH-l954Q
Top Dank, I'm bout to eat a beef jerky stick and drink a beer. Should I make myself a turkey or ham sub to go along with it??
i think samson's parents were doing coke with hatton when they named him
Danimaniac - Your thoughts, are Wlad and Vitali really that dominant or is heavyweight division that bad? There are a lot of guys with great records. I feel it is about equally both - great champions (HOFers for sure) and slightly weak division.
Probably a combination of the two. The Klitschkos are not just guys who showed up. They had top amateur careers. Wladimir was an Olympic gold medalist. That counts for a lot in my book.
Dan, not trying to write the Peterson brothers off, but both lost comprehensively in their first step up. Do they not have "it"? Hard to see Anthony winning titles when he can't win title eliminators.
I can't disagree. The truth is told inside the ring.
I think gamboa gets too lazy and it will catch up to him before too long
It might but that's one of things that makes him fun because of that possibility of him getting creamed or of drilling the other guy.
Do you like "refs" scoring the fight like they did in the UK last night?
No, I've never liked that, although that is British tradition for domestic bouts.
Think Shannon Briggs is having second thoughts tonight?
He should have when he signed the contract.
I'm sorry dan but i will NOT settle down, this guy is an *** *** who never wants to be wrong and we both agree that along with Max, Merchant and Bert Sugar, when it comes to boxing knowledge and perspective you are very highly regarded. He is actually speechless for the first time in the 8 years I've known him. Everyone here reacted to your answer in a manner of me KO-ing this guy in the 12th round of a title fight. (and not for the super duper super title, although I did have to pay a sactioning fee). I'm actually thinking of framing this chat and giving it to him for Christmas...Too far?
LOL. Congrats. I think.
Dan, do you think the reason HBO got rid of Lennox Lewis is because they decided to get out of the heavyweight division?
Not at all.
Sad to hear Vargas has a financial situation one of my favorite fighters
Mayweather should take note.
If Floyd takes your Bat Phone, do you have a Robin Phone to keep us updated on the latest?
That is legendary. Pay the man, Shirley. Double.
What do you fell was more blatant the Abraham punch or Gamboa. I say Gamboa.
it's not stated on the schedule, but do you feel that pascal bhop will end up on regular hbo/showtime or it will more likely be a ppv?
Probably will be a PPV, although it could be a Showtime-distributed PPV.
Dan, did you agree with Papa's opinion in that Salido was Gamboa's biggest fight ever?
To this point it was, yes.
Add Sam Peter to the list of guys who don't need any more title shots. I call it the 'Rocky Juarez' list.
At least Sam won a title from a reigning titleholder and did it via knockout. I had fun covering that fight against Maskaev in the bullring in Cancun.
Your thoughts on Mike Lee's performance? Hes very Raw but seems to draw pretty good.
He's a big draw already. The Notre Dame alumni love him.
Actually, if Floyd took the Bat Phone, wouldn't that automatically become the Robin phone because, well...he would be robbing it, right?
This is gettin' out of control.
Dan, I thing is good for Gamboa show than he can fight 12 round and finish well? dont you?
That's a very good point.
I was reading the article on Klitschko's win and thought to myself, "this article sucks, Dan's losing it," when I scrolled back to the top and read 'Associated Press.' I'll never doubt you again.
Thank you for causing me to get a Twitter account....because of you I have all the latest boxing updates AND have discovered Cocosworld (Ice-T's) wife. Boxing info and Thong Thursday....can't go wrong lol.....
Glad to help.
Having the anthems AFTER the fighter introductions sure was odd. Ever seen that before?
I noticed that also. It was terrible. Sucked all the excitement out of the beginning of the Wlad-Peter fight. I have never seen that that I can recall.
Didn't expect HBO to mention Mayweather's issues tonight.
Pretty hard to ignore that. It's like the elephant in the corner.
HBO alluded to the fact that Rios and Victor Ortiz don't like each other, is there something to that?
Yes, they don't like each other.
Why aren't promoters in the United States putting together introductions like what we saw today in Germany? That really turns the boxing match into an event.
My understanding is that RTL, the German network that shows Klitschko, pays for it, not the promoter. In the US, if a fighter wants a thetatrical entrance like that, the promoter has to pay. Our nets don't spend the extra money on it.
I wonder if Max read your tweets, couldn't stop laughing when he was talking about the super-duper champ
We follow each other.
I'd like to congratulate Sam Peter on his new career as a gateway heavyweight contender. I wouldn't mind seeing Adamek/Peter.
Probably a good fight.
hey dan, was discussing with my buddies how we need to go to mayweather/pacquiao, if it ever happens, and we were wondering, what do u think seats would go for if it were to happen in vegas?
If it's at the MGM with only 16,500 seats or so, I would expect the cheapest ticket to be probably at least $300.
Dan, Teddy Atlas commented on there being "a lot of empty seats" at the Klitschko fight. Was he actually in Germany or is he basing this on what he saw on TV?
Brian and Teddy called the Klitschko fight from a studio in Bristol watching on a monitor.
I'd never heard of the IBF's weight gain rule until today. Is that new?
No, that is not new at all. Has been around for a long time.
I heard Williams Martinez II was announced... any chance this is in AC?
Most like it will be in AC.
Dan you are a machine. I'm fading here in the CST and you're still going strong in the EST.
It is pretty sick isn't it? I'll get up in time for the Giants-Panthers kick off.
"If Lewis-Tyson could be made, any fight can be made. ANY Fight." Your quote from Friday's chat should be printed and sent to every promotional company in the world to look at daily before they start making excuses about why they can't make fight A, B or C.
Who would you pick to win between Adamek and Haye? At cruiser or heavy.
I'd love to see that fight. I think I would lean to the Ducker, but would not count out Adamek.
Pretty interesting fights tonight, glad the refs were on their A games tonight and made good calls.
Agreed. Good to give them a shout out, both Russell Mora and Joe Cortez.
Dan, it was good to hear your live cut-in during the Klitschko fight on ESPN3. Do you plan on doing more of this in the upcoming net broadcasts?
I do what the producers ask me to do. If they ask me to be available for any in the future I will be.
Badass that you are a KISS fan. A boxer needs to walk out to God Of Thunder.
War Machine baby, not GOT.
Biggest losers of the day: (1) Hatton, (2) Peterson, (3) Peter
Haye would destroy Adamek. Speed and power beats speed and no power imho.
DANdruff, it is time for Top Rank to make Juanma vs Gamboa. How many showcase fights can these guys have? Only hardcore fans know who these guys are anyway so not sure how big this fight can be a year from now plus each time they step into the ring against someone else it is just a risk they each lose.
I can't disagree. I wish they'd make it next if Lopez beats Marquez.
Would you find Juan Carlos Gomez vs. Haye interesting?
No. I don't find anything with JC Gomez interesting anymore.
Have you ever thought about publishing your own boxing magazine, a la Ring?
So I can lose money? For what purpose?
Rios is a true fighter.
Very well said.
is this the longest RAD ever?
exactly how many ricky hatton's were snorting cocaine?
One Hatton, two nostrils.
i believe bhop will eventually break down pascal and take his title. have u givin the fight any serious thought since u heard about it?
I think BHop has a really good chance to win the fight.
erislandy lara when is his next fight? i think he will be a problem at 154 to 160 once he gets a shot at top guys your thoughts?
Nothing scheduled at the moment that I know of. He just fought a few weeks ago.
Ok, Freaks, it's like 3 a.m. Great RAD chat to end a big day of boxing. Thanks for chatting. Enjoy the rest of your weekend and I'll chat with you on Friday from Los Angeles, where I will be covering Mosley-Mora. Peace.