Good afternoon everyone! Time to be chattin'...
Kevin, When are the packers going to trade for lynch?
I'm not sure it's going to happen. Adam Schefter reported the Bills were close to trading him last week but it didn't work our. I don't know if it was to the Packers or someone else, but I will say this: When push came to shove Sunday, the Packers figured out a way to run out the clock to beat the Lions. John Kuhn was exactly what you would hope he could be in that last drive.
Can the packers survive two weeks with this secondary? they just need to get to week 7 to get bigby and harris back, and then id wager they have the best secondary in the NFL. harris would be playing #3 corner. tramon williams is absolutely lights out.
Well, I wouldn't be entirely certain that it's only two weeks. That's the earliest Bigby and Harris could begin practicing. So are we assuming they will both be ready to play after one week of practice? Neither one of them have done any football work since last season. So this bridge could be longer than two games.
A quarter of the way through the year, have we seen any team's true colors? Only the Lions have been consistent - it looks like the other three teams have some serious things to figure out.
Interesting way to look at it. I agree Green Bay has been a notch below what they're capable of. If the Vikings can get their passing offense straightened out, they'll be more of a force. But I do kind of think we've seen from the Bears what we're going to see for much of this year: Wild games, up-and-down performances and unconventional paths to victories.
Hey Kevin, ESPN front page has a rumor that Lynch to Green Bay may happen after all. Any word?
There really isn't. That Rumor item quotes Schefter's report. Nothing connecting the Packers and Lynch. At least not yet.
If the Vikings lose Shiancoe this week, maybe they should go to the single wing and give Brett the week off. The Jets are just going to put nine in the box anyway.
Agreed. Maybe they could run the wildcat with Tarvaris Jackson. Seriously, not having Shiancoe in that game would be a huge blow to Favre. He obviously loves throwing to him.
Do you think Alphonso Smith should get a starting job?
I wouldn't be surprised at all. That interception was high quality. If I'm Aaron Rodgers, I take my chances with Greg Jennings 1-on-1 with a cornerback down the field every time. Smith just made a great play to take the ball away from him.
Kevin, why didn't Nance get 1 carry against the Lions. That would have been a perfect team to try him against.
I think they were planning on it, but the game got really skewed quickly. Before that final drive, I think they had run 28 plays. They didn't have enough opportunities to get him in there, and they weren't going to try it with the game on the line.
I was with you at the game in NY and outside of the beer bottle barrage am I the only person that saw Jay get sacked with 7 left in the first and stumble to the wrong sideline? He played the rest of that half with a concussion. Don't get me wrong he held the ball too long on 3 of those sacks, but to blame him for the end of the Chicago Bears as we know it seems pretty harsh.
David Haugh wrote about that in the Chicago Tribune. It's a pretty good indication that the concussion might not have happened on the final sack as the Bears have said.
What do you see the Packers doing in the secondary until Bigby comes back? Woodson at safety?
According to Tom Silverstein at the Journal Sentinel, the Packers want Charlie Peprah to be the starter. But he's been injured, so that's up in the air. Another possibility is Dom Capers coming up with a scheme that has uses only one safety.
How do you think the Bears will fare if Collins or Hanie has to step in for Cutler over the next couple of weeks? I can still see them beating the Panthers (with Peppers terrorizing his old team) and possibly the Seahawks if Jay is out, but I might be overly optimistic. And will Martz be able to shorten the drop backs, since his system seems to be based on plays developing longer than most. Your take?
Well, Collins is a statue in the pocket, so they better come up with some quick passes for him. That's why Hanie might make more sense. But it sounds as if the Bears think Cutler will play.
It seemed like Ryan Cook filled in pretty well for John Sullivan in the previous game, but I know the Vikings like having him as a utility backup. If Sully can't go this week against the Jets, do you see them starting Cook, or starting Jon Cooper and having Cook stay as a utility man in case of injury anywhere on the line?
They could start Cook and then move him into another position if he needs to go there. Right now it's up in the air. They don't really resume practice until Thursday. But Cook is definitely a possibility, believe it or not.
It sure was fun sacking the spit out of Jay Cutler. Did we finally expose the Chicago Bears as only the 3rd best team in the NFC North? Was their victory over the Packers an aberration or was the loss to us Giants the fluke?
I think it was a perfect storm. A scheme that invites sacks, a quarterback who takes a lot of them, an offensive line with four moving parts, and an opponent with a really active front four.
Stafford will come back after the bye, right? I wouldn't risk anything before that.
Who knows. They're being awfully secretive about it. I will say this: Rushing a quarterback with an injury to his throwing shoulder isn't worth the effort. They need to wait until he's healed. I'm guessing it will be a while.
Kevin,Lions have been so close this season. Do you think having matthew stafford would have made the difference? I am looking at a 3-1 record with him.
I really don't know. The sample size of his playing time this year is too small. If he made the progress the Lions were hoping, then possibly. But it's really hard to judge. Remember, he threw 20 interceptions in 10 games last year. Who is to say he would have corrected those issues so quickly?
I am getting sick and tired of our poor tackle play. With giving out good money to our veterans they aren't suppose to be manhandled by second tier pass rush defensive ends like Tauscher has been in games against Lions, Bears, Eagles. It's time to let Lang and Bulaga get their feet wet if our Tackles can't perform anymore. Let them be quality backups in case the young guys fail.
There are a lot of people who share your view. Tauscher has looked particularly old the past two weeks. But Lang hasn't even been active. I'm not sure the Packers are ready to make that move.
Could Al Harris become a safety like a Rod Woodson? He has the ball hawking skill
Perhaps. The biggest thing for Harris, though, is to get his knee healthy enough to get on the field. That's not a done deal yet.
Awesome. There's an ugly old witch on website. Why does ESPN indulge your cheesiness?
My editor has the same warped sense of humor I guess. Now I can't get the witch cackle out of my head. HAHAHAHAHHA
Kevin, Detroit area reporters are saying it's time to point the finger at Schwartz, but they also said it takes 2 years to rebuild this mess. We're only 1.25 yrs. in...what gives?
Very complicated issue. As we've said before, coaches are ultimately judged on their record, regardless of circumstances. Schwartz's record is 2-18. It goes without saying how bad that is. That said, I'm not sure I could run off a list of 10 things that he should have done to make it better. There have been some debatable game-management decisions, but ultimately he lost his starting quarterback in the first half of Week 1 and has an abominable group of linebackers and defensive backs. He's the coach, so he should be blamed. But you don't give up on him yet, knowing what you know about his circumstances.
I'm baffled by the play of Cutler. Sometimes he looks great. This week he looked like he had the field vision of a person with a lazy or glass eye and the mobility of a dead corpse! Is he just not getting the Martz offense? Speaking of which, why not milk Forte like a common dairy cow?? Only 12 touches? Oy vey!
Last question first. Forte is many things, but he's not a strong between-the-tackles runner. If they want to slow it down and start running the ball, do it with Chester Taylor. Second, I think you described the total picture of Cutler. His game includes amazing throws and abominable decisions. It's all part of the package.
Any inside information on Shiancoe's injury? Will he play this weekend?
He did some running Monday. Sounds like it was fairly significant but they haven't totally abandoned the possibility of him playing against the Jets.
Kevin, why did the Vikings cut and/or not bring back Javon Walker?
He still has the ball skills but is really, really slow now. Too slow, I think, in their opinion to get open.
what you think about McCarthy and Rodgers differing comments on Sunday and Monday? I heard you asking the question during the press conference with McCarthy on Monday
That wasn't me but I appreciate you thinking it was! As for the comments, I don't think they'll amount to much. More than anything, the Packers didn't have enough time to establish any kind of "identity" on Sunday. They hardly had the ball.
What is a typical timeline between players getting off the PUP list and actually returning to playing condition. Naturally, I have Atari, and Al Harris in mind.
It has and can be done in one week, based on circumstances. But as we've discussed, Bigby and Harris haven't done ANYTHING since last season. That would be a tall task for them to practice for three days and then be ready to appear in a game.
Why didn't Martz make necessary adjustments on Sunday night like he did versus the Cowboys? I realize the Giants weren't blitzing, but continuing to take 5-7 step drops was rediculous.
Agreed. He was a little stubborn there. But Cutler was so out-of-his-mind by midway through the second quarter that it's really hard to know what Martz was calling. The one mistake Martz definitely made was abandoning the run so early. They were down 3-0, not 30-0.
Kevin, will I even make a difference if I return to action soon?
Oh, I think so. It will help settle people into the positions they were in all offseason and summer. I'm not saying Omiyale is doing terribly at left tackle, but they're better with Williams at LT and Omiyale at RT than they are with Omiyale at LT and Shaffer/Webb at RT.
Think I'll be back in the lineup this week?
Based on how the tight end blocking looked Sunday night, I sure hope so.
should the bears be fined for letting Cutler stay in there for the rest of the half with a concussion?
The NFL doesn't fine for those things, but in today's environment, it's awfully concerning that there is no clear picture yet of when Cutler suffered the injury. If it happened on the final sack, then why did he start walking to the wrong sideline on an earlier play?
Any chance we see more of Hank Baskett in the MNF game? Seems like he's the kind of big jump ball receiver Favre likes throwing to.
Perhaps. But let's not, for one second, mistake Hank Baskett for Sidney Rice. That's all I'm sayin'.
I'll be at the Packers-Redskins game this week. Any chance I'll see you there?
You'll have to wait until Friday's programming note! But that place is so big that my chances of running into anyone is what, 1 in 100,000?
Is there any news on the Sidney Rice front?
Apparently he has another visit with the doctor coming up in hopes of accelerating his rehab. But he's not even on the radar yet.
I read an article which said that the Packers liked what they saw out of Jarrett Bush on Sunday. In my eyes, he was terrible. Thoughts?
I have never and still don't get the Jarrett Bush phenomenon. Teams pick on him at an unbelievable rate.
Unfortunately I see the Vikings having a struggle on Monday with the Jets. I do think the Vikings can run on the Jets if s they stick to the running game, which will open up some passing for Favre (dinks and dunks). Vikes defense will pressure Sanchez and slowdown their running game, look for a close game. Any news on when Rice may be returning?
No, Rice isn't eligble to play. As for the game, I think it's going to be an awfully tough one for the Vikings.
Exodus, movement of the people! KS, was wondering what your thoughts were around the Pack's offensive line. I think AR was sacked only once. I know it was the Lions but their D-Line is pretty good with Suh and Vander-Bosh. Your thoughts, Also, "don't worry about a thing, everything little thing, will be alright!"
Nice! I thought Tauscher looked pretty shaky but otherwise there just weren't enough plays to really judge anyone.
You think there is cause for concern for the Packers or just another slow start?
If every slow start could leave a team 3-1, then people wouldn't be worried about them. They are not at peak performance, but they're playing well enough to win three of their first four games. But given their schedule over the next month or so, they're going to have to step it up. No question.
Why is the NFL trying to crack-down on Jared Allen's sack celebration? Real classy, JK, real classy! Seriously - let's keep it fun. Smile.
My strong guess is that another team protested that their player was fined for a celebration in which he touched the ground, but Allen hasn't been. So the NFL felt compelled to tell Allen to cut it out. Frankly, I think this whole story is ridiculous. Who cares except for Allen's accountant?
Despite a mild case of the dropsies Brandon Pettigrew is on pace for a 80+ reception and 900 yard year. Does that even make him close to as valuable as Oher could have been to this team, you know the whole our franchise QB can't stop getting blindsided and hurt thing.
Agreed on the dropsies. I'll say what I said when he was drafted. In order to be first-round value, you have to be an elite tight end. By elite, I mean Antonio Gates in his prime or Tony Gonzalez in his. And even at that level, is he worth losing out on a fixture at left tackle? I don't think so. I'd pick a 10-year left tackle over an elite tight end in almost every case.
Do you think Lovie is going a little too far with his new holding players accountable plan. The offensive line juggling and Zach Bowman in and out of the lineup should have been decided in the preseason. He needs to let them play and concentrate instead of looking over their shoulds afraid to make a mistake. Thoughts?
I'm ok with it at cornerback but most definitely not at offensive line. I don't see how you can develop any kind of cohesiveness when you do that. Maybe they're trying to find the right combination after losing Chris Williams. Now they're dealing with the Lance Louis injury as well. But they need to find a starting five and stick with it, in my opinion.
By the way, we have breaking news during the chat. Marshawn Lynch to Seattle. Oh well for Packers fans, I guess.
Glazer is reporting a fourth and a conditional draft pick. Wow. I think the Packers could have afforded that.
In the same chat, you have said that hte Packers are both "playing a notch above what they're capable of" and are "not at peak performance." Um, What?
That was a mistake. They're playing a notch below.
What will GB do in the return game? Don't they need someone who can hold onto the ball?
Tramon Williams at KR is one possibility.
With the trade deadline looming, any chance of Kevin Smith being traded?
Not with Jahvid Best dealing with a turf toe, I wouldn't think.
It's what we love about football!
In hindsight, didn't the bears make a HUGE mistake giving up Orton +the farm for Cutler?
No. I think they knew how far Orton could take them. I'm fine with putting their eggs in Cutler's basket. No risk, no reward, right?
I just read the Lynch was traded to Seattle? Can you confirm?
Yep. ESPN has confirmed Glazer's report.
Why am I on ESPN.com's chat with Kevin Seifert anyway?
Not like you've got to break in a new running back this afternoon, right?!
Any chance Vikes move Cook to starting center permanetly? AP actually had some running lanes.
I attribute that more to his patience than Cook's blocking.
Kevin, you mentioned that Kuhn did his job and that potentially the Packers might be ok with their RBs....is the Packers crazy?? It was Detroit that they were trying to run the clock down and they barely did that with Kuhn. Lynch will without a doubt provide them with a top RB capable of running between the tackles and pass catching. He could be even better in this offense than Grant. The Packer need to wake up and realize they are one dimensional right now. Do you believe the Packers will make a serious play to get Lynch??
Obviously not. But as far as Kuhn goes, I think he's a pretty decent backup/change-of-pace/fourth-quarter guy. But obviously they're lacking a No. 1 runner. It obviously won't be Lynch and probably won't be anyone from the outside. But that's where it stands.
Can we trade you for Judd or Chip or both?
Ha. I hear their contract demands are extensive.
Can we officially say that the Bears will be drafting heavy along the O-line in next year's draft?
Do you think the Packers will change the play calling after Rogers making that statement in puplic?
Good idea. The good news is you can get guards and right tackles in lower rounds.
Whoops. Out of order. Here is the answer to the Rodgers question: I don't think you'll see any noticeable changes in the Packers' play-calling.
OK, a couple more before I break away to do a Marshawn Lynch post.
Is Ted Thompson going to show up on an episode of Horders with mounds of draft picks cluttering his living room?
Nice. But who would play the doctor getting him to let go of them?
Well I am making Jordy Nelson run like the high school track team for those two fumbles. How should I approach the Redskins? My coaching staff and myself think we should just let Aaron Rodgers rip them into a million pieces
Who wins/loses in the Lynch trade?
Good deal for both. Bills get something for a player whose time was up. The Seahawks get a legitimate No. 1 runner.
Do you think Favre's struggles could have anything to do with the pressure of reaching 500 TD's? I know in baseball, homerun hitters typically go into a slump as they reach milestones, is this a possibility or am I just being hopeful?
Highly doubtful. He's surpassed enough of these milestones already.
Ok everyone, time to get back to blogging. Thanks so much!