Good afternoon everyone. Thanks for dropping by. Greg Payne has the <a href="http://espn.go.com/blog/BostonCeltics/post/_/id/4683835/arroyo-i-think-rondos-ready" target="new">latest from shootaround</a>, now let's dive into your questions.
That was a nasty injury by Rondo, can he really help the Celtics better than say West. If he can't lift the arm he can't shoot. What if he gets fouled, does he shoot one handed?
All valid questions. Of course, it'd be easier to say, 'Yes, Delonte is a better option,' but he's hurting to with that shoulder stinger in Game 3. I think the Celtics will use all the marvels of modern medicine to put Rondo in the best position to be effective tonight, but we're probably not going to know until the ball goes up just how effective he can be. I'd be surprised if Carlos Arroyo isn't activated, just to add depth at that point guard spot.
As a Celtics fan I feel it's just natural for me to hate the Lakers. After the past two days I can't say I ever remember being more proud to be a C's fan. Maybe they don't make it through this round, but at least they're showing heart instead of just rolling over like LA did. I still believe that if the C's can win tonight they stand a great chance of taking the series.
I'll admit, I'm a little bummed that the Lakers are out. I sorta thought if Boston was going to atone for last season, they'd have to do by running the gamut of Miami, Chicago, and LA. But there's work to be done for Boston just to get past the first part of that equation. I agree it's nice to see Boston really fighting with its back against the wall. Rondo's return will become even more storied if they rally to win this series.
Is anyone gonna bother to put me in my place tonight or should I just keep throwin' cheapshots till someone notices?
That's a great question. So, if you're Boston, you clearly have the hard foul on Pierce in the fourth quarter of Game 1 and now the Rondo injury, and you probably do want retribution at some point. But the focus tonight has to be on Game 4 and getting this series even. The best retribution Boston can get is winning this series and Rivers needs to stress that to his troops. Now, maybe having Shaq knock him down in a lopsided game would send a mild message.
Do you think anyone in Celtics team also think it was a helluva dirty play by D-wade or is it just the fans? Haven't they considered complaining to league disciplinary board?
Here's the thing to me: The play happened so quickly, I just can't imagine Wade's thinking something like, "I'm going to snap this guy's elbow in half." No, he certainly didn't try to stop Rondo from falling, but nine times out of 10 that play ends pretty harmlessly. That doesn't make it right, but it's not like this was premeditated or something.
I'm happy to put my sneakers on tonight, guys, but I don't actually have to play, right?
You know what, I think you might actually have to give it a go for a bit. If Rondo proves to be ineffective early on, you might have to split some time with Delonte given his ailing shoulder. Then again, you should have plenty of motivation after how your tenure in Miami ended.
Hey chris love what you do here w/ espn boston. I was wondering what your take was in regards to Shaq going forward? How many minutes will he play and what will he contribute?
If the Celtics can get what they got from him in Game 3 moving forward, I think they'd be fine with that. He's essentially playing the minute that Krstic was ineffective in filling. His presence makes Wade and James think twice about driving so often and, offensively, a defender still can't leave his body, even though he's 39 with a bum calf.
I'm just gonna go ahead and sit the rest of this series out, everybody. I figured I'm about as effective on the bench as I am on the floor, am I right?
C'mon, Baby. You know it's all about confidence with you. Go do some yoga or something, clear all those thoughts and just play like the energy player you were at the start of the year. Don't worry about your shots, don't get down after a bad defensive rotation. Just take charges (you've got plenty on Wade this season), get rebounds, and all of a sudden that 19-footer starts falling in the flow of the game.
Hey Chris, I saw the photo of Baby that you posted yesterday, and it made me realize that it was beyond admirable that the Celts retaliated with their play and didn't incur any techs [or worse] after Rondo went down. I hope that poise carries over tonight.
No doubt. Even before that incident, Pierce could have had a first-half dust-up (I believe it was with Wade) and he just walked away. These guys get it now. They can't let their emotions take them out of their game. They need Miami to be the ones that overreact and lose their composure the way the Celtics did in Game 1.
What do you call Rajon Rondo with two dislocated elbows? Mike Bibby!
Hi-yo! Mike's here all week. Tip the waitstaff.
If Rajon Rondo can't play, do you think the Celtics are capable of beating the Heat with Delonte in the starting lineup?
Sure. Let's face it, Rondo was a great story line and a key part of Boston's success in Game 3, but that game was won with 1) Inspired defense and 2) KG dominating the offensive end. The Celtics can still do that without Rondo, but he sure aids both causes. Boston could sure use another three-day break in the schedule, but won't be so fortunate this time.
have the Celtics/Doc figured out how to take down the Heat or was game 3 just a flash in the pan, and not a sign of how the C's will attack the Heat moving forward?
I think the Heat played about as poorly as their capable. Take away Anthony and Chalmers off the bench and that's probably a 25-point loss. The Celtics will be happy if Wade and LeBron keep settling for outside looks, but I expect Miami to be sharper tonight. The question is whether Boston can maintain the bit of momentum it stole with that win (and, of course, Rondo's health).
i think bostons only way to winning this series is to make wade and bron shoot jumpshots. because honestly i dont think they can consistently make them do you agree
Absolutely. I blogged a bit on it this morning, but Wade was 6-of-7 shooting at the rim in Game 3. All but two of his buckets came within three feet. The Celtics absolutely can't let him get there because 1) He finishes and 2) When he doesn't, he gets to the line. And Boston can't allow Wade to get easy points at the stripe (at least LeBron struggles with his consistency at the line).
Do you think that D-Wade is going to hesitant to go to the hoop in game 4? He might think twice about if KG's down there. I am sorta expecting Wade to go to the hole in the 2nd quarter with KG in a perfect position to lay him out. Then KG gets the boot and Rondo scores 50.
Maybe sub Shaq for KG. I'm not sure Kevin's the type to bring the thunder, but I can certainly see Shaq salivating at the thought.
Looks like Wade was really working on his WWE style Russian Leg Sweep in that Rondo play.
I'd love to have heard the number of "Oh my gawds!" JR would have thrown in there watching that play live.
Can Arroyo make a big impact tonight seeing that he has already claimed "extra motivation" playing against his old club. Do we give him a good shot and to see what he can do?
No, Arroyo is good for what he is: Emergency depth. He can run the offense and take care of the ball. But I still think you lean on Rondo & West, unless they're so dinged up they're hurting the team.
Is it the worst thing in the world if they just let Pierce run the point and have Jeff Green in the lineup if Rondo can't go? I've even see Ray run the point for short periods of time this year. Or am I just crazy?
We've all seen Paul step up in the distributor role when Rondo's gone down in the past. I can certainly see him doing this again, but obviously Miami's defense makes that a bit more of a daunting task.
yooo kgs back in business playa
40 shots in two games. If I'm Doc, I'm telling KG I'm fining him two grand for every shot below 20 he takes from here on out. Like in Cleveland last season, the Celtics need KG to be selfish throughout this series.
who u like tonight and why
Really depends on the health of Rondo, but I think if he can get by on pure adrenaline early and give the Celtics an early lead, Boston can win this game. But I'm just left wondering how effective he can be with one arm. If teams were playing off him before, I wonder if they'll just have LeBron roaming wildly to start the game. Rondo has to be able to still drive to the basket and keep the defense honest with some semblance of a jumper.
Jeff Green really impressed me in Game 3. I know he didn't go off for like 20 points, but his energy, particularly on defense was great. He and PP worked amazingly together, I would love to see this continue forward!
Exactly. He's the perfect example of a guy that doesn't have to worry about the box score if he plays defense like that. He had a very good game and needs to concentrate on being a pest around Wade & James.
Quick break in the action as I hop on ESPN Boston radio... we'll pick up with more in a bit. Jump here to listen in: <a href="http://espn.go.com/boston/radio/show?showId=adamjones" target="new">http://es.pn/BostonRadio</a>
Alright, radio is behind us, let's dive into a few more questions before wrapping this thing up.
Hey Chris? How am I doing so far? Any advice moving forward?
Jermaine, you're exceeding all expectations. Your defense has been phenomenal and exactly what this starting unit needed. Keep stepping up on charges, keep helping out on the weakside, and don't worry about the offense.
I'm pretty sore Fozzy. Will I ruin the Celtic's chances of banner 18?
No, I gotta think you'll be feeling a lot better by this time next week. Trouble is, this series might be over by then, so the Celtics definitely need you to play through as much pain as possible.
Man, Wade is lucky I'm not still in Boston. I almost flew down to get a vengence for that hit on Rondo. Can you imagine if he tried to take it to the hole if I was anchoring that defense?
I actually would really like to know what Perk's reaction to that play was. I envision him tossing a gigantic TV through a window and vowing revenge.
Hey I'm glad KG is still dominating over there, I still think it was a fair trade though. I was wondering if Doc leaves do I still have a shot at the job? :wink wink:
I think you'd be near the top of the list. You might want to smooth things out with KG first, though.
In 1987 McHale played with the broken bone in his foot; admirable yet to the detriment of his career. At what point do they tell Rondo, "No, you're not playing."?
Rivers stressed Sunday that he would never let a player on the court if he thought it was to the long-term detriment of his career. Again, I guess it goes back to how much more damage can Rondo do here? If the risk is minimal, I think the team is comfortable having him out there.
Alright fine, it's me Zaza Pachulia you got me... or is it? Bwahahahaaaa!!!
Player X drop-ins during the weekly chat might be my favorite moment of the week.
Hi Chris, man, my nerves are still on edge. I might need to have a coupla $10 Sam Adams to calm me down before the game tonight!
Just a word of advice: If a dude on the other team dislocates his elbow and returns to play, probably not a good time to be worrying about a kink in your neck.
We ain't going back to LA.
Oklahoma City is lovely this time of year.
(Dodges objects from Mavs and Grizzlies fans)
See you guys in the finals.
I'm fairly certain the world will explode if this somehow happens. It could not sustain the hype of Perk returning to face his old team.
Chris, Wade's play was dirty (he certainly tried to take Rondo down), but not flagrantly so. Unlike Bynum's play, which was downright disgraceful (even if the result was less significant).
Exactly. At the end of the day, he might have given Boston all the motivation it needed to get back in this series.
Prediction: Jeff Green flagrant 1 on Dwayne. Finally earns respect from team.
Interesting theory. That said, Green's earning some quality respect with his defensive play right now and Boston again has to be focused on simply playing smart basketball in Game 4.
CHRIS! WE MADE THE TRIP! Let's get a DX style pose picture, you wanna be HHH or HBK? Also, can't wait for my first game at the garden!
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And with that, this chat's a wrap. Thanks for hanging out. Enjoy Game 4. Hopefully we're talking about more basketball when we reconvene next Monday (which could be before a potential Game 7 in Miami).